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(Washington Post)   Dale Hunter steps down as coach of Washington Capitals. Team captain Alex Ovechkin looking forward to playing more than 15 minutes a game   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 43
    More: Obvious, Dale Hunter, Washington Capitals, team captains, scoring chance, Bruce Boudreau, priority to the right, Nicklas Backstrom, head coaches  
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2012-05-14 04:43:41 PM  
Whoa. There has to be some backstory.
 
2012-05-14 04:54:45 PM  
This seems to be the opposite of "obvious".

Good for him for choosing family over money, I guess.
 
2012-05-14 04:59:56 PM  

2wolves: Whoa. There has to be some backstory.


Yeah, they had a very good run this year for the first time in a while. Something in the locker room must be off.
 
2012-05-14 05:03:11 PM  
As much as I hate the guy (I'm an Islanders fan, it's in the rulebook) I will admit that he did a good job as coach. I'm surprised he didn't want to stay.
 
2012-05-14 05:07:51 PM  

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: 2wolves: Whoa. There has to be some backstory.

Yeah, they had a very good run this year for the first time in a while. Something in the locker room must be off.


Could be a personal or family illness... but there is a backstory.
 
2012-05-14 05:31:33 PM  

2wolves: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: 2wolves: Whoa. There has to be some backstory.

Yeah, they had a very good run this year for the first time in a while. Something in the locker room must be off.

Could be a personal or family illness... but there is a backstory.


What I've read on ESPN is that he wanted to go back to his family in Ontario. He may go back to coaching the London Knights of the OHL (which he owns and have made it to the Memorial Cup with Dale's brother as head coach).
 
2012-05-14 05:37:09 PM  
No worries, I hear Dan Snyder will be stepping in to replace him.
 
2012-05-14 05:49:43 PM  

Dogberry: No worries, I hear Dan Snyder will be stepping in to replace him.


No. The Caps have a sane owner.
 
2012-05-14 06:00:52 PM  
Ovechkin is lucky if he gets 15 minutes a night. He played like he should be on the 4th line this season.
 
2012-05-14 07:24:04 PM  
More than 15 minutes a game, 1:20 of which will be spent in the defensive zone.
 
2012-05-14 07:30:34 PM  
Maybe Alex Ovechkin should look forward to playing past Mother's Day.
 
2012-05-14 07:40:05 PM  

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: 2wolves: Whoa. There has to be some backstory.

Yeah, they had a very good run this year for the first time in a while. Something in the locker room must be off.


Bet it adds up to 8.
He had Boudreau fired, I'm sure that fat sailor was liked in the room, and Hunter wasn't about to let him off all the way off leash either.
Can't be a completely dysfunctional room to get that far into the playoffs though...
 
2012-05-14 07:57:49 PM  

2wolves: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: 2wolves: Whoa. There has to be some backstory.

Yeah, they had a very good run this year for the first time in a while. Something in the locker room must be off.

Could be a personal or family illness... but there is a backstory.


There is a backstory . . . and here it is: Capitals coach Dale Hunter tied to hockey fortunes in two cities. (Caution: long article with an NBC Olympics-coverage-feel human interest character.)

When I read that story in the Washington Post last March, I knew that him leaving after this year was a very strong possibility. The fact that the Knights won the OHL and are in the mix for the Memorial Cup again this year just contributes to it.
 
2012-05-14 08:04:01 PM  
Hmm...it wouldn't surprise me it were mostly family reasons with a side of "no farking way i'm spending most of this offseason massaging Ovi's ego". In fact, if I were faced with the latter, needing new brake pads would also constitute as a family reason that requires my full and undivided attention
 
2012-05-14 08:25:44 PM  
I'd love to have him coach in buffalo but I see he's going overseas :(


/anyone but Lindy at this point.
 
2012-05-14 08:32:31 PM  
Just change their name from the Capitals to the Generals
 
2012-05-14 08:33:27 PM  
As a Caps fan, I would have been surprised if he stayed. I thought he was only going to do this year. If he won it...he would leave on top. If he didn't win it, he was only going to be the stopgap.

i'm not surpised semin wants to leave. part of me wouldn't be sad if green left. he never seems to live up to his billing or is always hurt.

i'd love to keep backstrom, laich, ovechkin, plus a few more and try and find some more pieces that seem to want to play. if semin could put it together, he could be incredible. he has to want it.
 
2012-05-14 08:42:05 PM  
White Russian without a cup. It's messy.
 
2012-05-14 08:48:08 PM  

Killer Cars: Hmm...it wouldn't surprise me it were mostly family reasons with a side of "no farking way i'm spending most of this offseason massaging Ovi's ego". In fact, if I were faced with the latter, needing new brake pads would also constitute as a family reason that requires my full and undivided attention


Ya, this. He's an overpaid prima donna with no concern for being a team player.
 
2012-05-14 08:58:02 PM  

Tanukis_Parachute: As a Caps fan, I would have been surprised if he stayed. I thought he was only going to do this year. If he won it...he would leave on top. If he didn't win it, he was only going to be the stopgap.

i'm not surpised semin wants to leave. part of me wouldn't be sad if green left. he never seems to live up to his billing or is always hurt.

i'd love to keep backstrom, laich, ovechkin, plus a few more and try and find some more pieces that seem to want to play. if semin could put it together, he could be incredible. he has to want it.


Semin and Ovi have bad cases of Russian fatalism, neither the first, won't be the last, they could both be awesome (like Ovi before he started to buy in) if they could get over even a little adversity...
 
2012-05-14 09:06:13 PM  
I think Hunter coming back to DC to coach this year was simply a favor to the organization. It was his decision to go with a one year deal. I'm sad to see him go, but he definitely made some positive changes for the team. The players loved him. I hope they can find someone to pick up where he left off.
 
2012-05-14 09:16:09 PM  
Dale Hunter steps down as coach of Washington Capitals. Former Team captain Alex Ovechkin looking forward to playing more than 15 minutes a game

Fixed that for my Caps Fans friends.

/Seriously, they're extremely salty about Ovetchkin's performance, and were most recently advocating for a Brooks Laich captaincy.
 
2012-05-14 09:41:16 PM  
My bet is that Hunter was gone after this year unless they won the cup. And if they won the cup, it was still 50/50 for him to come back. Nothing to do with Ovie or the enigmatic Russians or anything else like that; he just seems like the kind of guy who puts family above work, and that just can't be done in professional sports. Some people turn the team into their surrogate family, but that's a dangerous proposition when you can be removed from the family at any time.

Going back to London is the best situation for him, and I wish him all the best.
 
2012-05-14 09:42:44 PM  

Dogberry: No worries, I hear Dan Snyder will be stepping in to replace him.


YOU SHUT YOUR DAMNED WHORE MOUTH!

Thanks, I won't be able to sleep tonight.
 
2012-05-14 10:55:24 PM  
im surprised, there was never a link for Kane's weekend bender? that was some pure entertainment right there.
 
2012-05-14 11:14:23 PM  

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: Hunter stunk. In all fairness, having your first NHL job come mid-season on a team with expectations is a recipe for disaster. But it was obvious he had nobody's respect from the start.
[www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com image 640x426]



Ahhh Wideman....it really sucks that he's such a well revered locker room guy. Because he is so godawful that I think the ice surface is crying for him stop raping it.
 
2012-05-15 12:00:07 AM  
So, who gets the Caps job?
 
2012-05-15 12:34:10 AM  

Warlordtrooper: I'd love to have him coach in buffalo but I see he's going overseas :(


Three hours by car is considered "overseas" now?
 
2012-05-15 01:15:47 AM  

costermonger: Warlordtrooper: I'd love to have him coach in buffalo but I see he's going overseas :(

Three hours by car is considered "overseas" now?


maybe he meant hes going abroad.
 
2012-05-15 02:09:48 AM  

LucklessWonder: So, who gets the Caps job?


I'm available.

/Do you have to know how to skate?
 
2012-05-15 03:56:52 AM  

unyon: Ovechkin is lucky if he gets 15 minutes a night. He played like he should be on the 4th line this season.


37th in points is a bad year for Ovechkin, but hardly 4th line production. I wouldn't put much into it - he had an off year. Malkin did something similar and now look at him. You can't judge a player by one season. Perhaps Ovechkin had trouble fitting in with the new systems the Caps utilized under Boudreau and Hunter. Maybe he got fat and lazy this year. Or this was the start of a terrible decline for him. We don't know. But after years of being so dominant, it'll take more than one season of merely scoring 65 points to write him off.

As for Hunter, there'd been hints that he'd leave. The NHL just wasn't his gig. It's funny - him stepping down to go back to London makes me respect him a little, and I've always hated that man for what he did to Turgeon, despite him having almost as much history with Colorado/Quebec as he did with Washington.
 
2012-05-15 09:08:57 AM  

2wolves: Could be a personal or family illness... but there is a backstory.


No great conspiracy though. Most people acknowledge that he took the job as a favor to GMGM and the owner, when they needed somebody who would replace Boudreau and be unquestioned as a sane choice at the time. He left behind his juniors program and family business (he still drives a tractor on his farm last I heard), both of which probably suit his lifestyle a lot more than dealing with the life behind an NHL bench. I am not surprised at all, it always felt like an interim hire.
 
2012-05-15 10:15:16 AM  
I think this thread needs the Ove tooth gap zoom gif, but I can't seem to locate it easily. Hoping some farker will pull through and post it...
 
2012-05-15 10:42:10 AM  

LucklessWonder: So, who gets the Caps job?


Ron Wilson.
 
2012-05-15 10:52:20 AM  

Night Night Cream Puff: I think this thread needs the Ove tooth gap zoom gif, but I can't seem to locate it easily. Hoping some farker will pull through and post it...


One more time for old time's sake, buddy:

i.imgur.com

He did well... definitely outperformed expectations in the playoffs, even if the result was the same as Boudreau. But to hold out for 14 extra games when really their team lucked into the post-season was impressive.
 
2012-05-15 11:03:23 AM  

I_Love_Cheesecake: LucklessWonder: So, who gets the Caps job?

Ron Wilson.


After being run out of town on a rail by the same ownership and management still in place? That's a longshot.
 
2012-05-15 11:49:33 AM  

pag1107: I_Love_Cheesecake: LucklessWonder: So, who gets the Caps job?

Ron Wilson.

After being run out of town on a rail by the same ownership and management still in place? That's a longshot.


Yeah, I wasn't entirely serious, but stranger things have happened. Maybe Larry Robinson, then?
 
2012-05-15 12:34:40 PM  

LucklessWonder: So, who gets the Caps job?


Bengt-Åke Gustafsson.
 
2012-05-15 12:37:21 PM  

I_Love_Cheesecake: Yeah, I wasn't entirely serious, but stranger things have happened. Maybe Larry Robinson, then?


My first reaction when the news started coming out about the "Caps hire Hunter" was I thought they had hired Tim Hunter. It's a wide open choice at this point.

But they have to do something pretty soon. Semin is making noises about leaving, they have to decide about Mike Green and a couple veterans. The draft is coming up and the CBA negotiations too. They need a coach, and they need to decide what direction they want to go in.
 
2012-05-15 01:12:54 PM  

Smiths: Night Night Cream Puff: I think this thread needs the Ove tooth gap zoom gif, but I can't seem to locate it easily. Hoping some farker will pull through and post it...

One more time for old time's sake, buddy:

[i.imgur.com image 380x247]

He did well... definitely outperformed expectations in the playoffs, even if the result was the same as Boudreau. But to hold out for 14 extra games when really their team lucked into the post-season was impressive.


You are my hero. Well, you and horn guy and loud guy at the Verizon Center.
 
2012-05-15 01:30:02 PM  

lunchinlewis: I_Love_Cheesecake: Yeah, I wasn't entirely serious, but stranger things have happened. Maybe Larry Robinson, then?

My first reaction when the news started coming out about the "Caps hire Hunter" was I thought they had hired Tim Hunter. It's a wide open choice at this point.

But they have to do something pretty soon. Semin is making noises about leaving, they have to decide about Mike Green and a couple veterans. The draft is coming up and the CBA negotiations too. They need a coach, and they need to decide what direction they want to go in.


Semin needs to go no matter who the next coach is. The Caps have glaring holes specifically at 2C and 2nd D Pairing. The organization has enough Alex Semins on the roster, they don't need to spend $7mil on the Alex Semin.

I'll give the dude credit, he had a pretty darn good first series, and then he Disappeared in the second. That's kind of a theme for him, disappearing for entire series. I don't have any ill will toward the guy, I just don't think he's part of the solution for the future.
 
2012-05-15 02:14:01 PM  

The Homer Tax: I'll give the dude credit, he had a pretty darn good first series, and then he Disappeared in the second. That's kind of a theme for him, disappearing for entire series. I don't have any ill will toward the guy, I just don't think he's part of the solution for the future.


The game has always been "Will Semin Show Up".

I made it my first joke when their first round series started, then spit out booze when they went to an "in the studio" segment with Jeremy Roenick who flat out said "Will Semin show up?" in discussing how he thinks the caps would play that night.

I still think Wideman wanted a goal in the post-season. He seemed to be the only one consistently trying to play hockey.

In Game 6 is was obvious Chimera was not stopping until he scored.

In Game 7 it didn't seem like any of them had the "oopah!" to not lose.
 
2012-05-15 02:40:48 PM  
Semin's decision and the club's decision is just as enigmatic as he is on the ice. He has it pretty damn easy in DC, he as Alex as his big Russian brother to take some of the spotlight away, the franchise coddles him, the media lets him get away with only speaking through an interpreter. Both sides would probably like to continue their relationship IF the money can be worked out.

I don't know how many other teams are going to make offers to him. He has his reputation, which might not bring a lot of big dollars from other teams. If they have to bump him up closer to $7 million, it might not be the worst thing. But again, the coaching decision probably plays a big role in what happens.

They've been able and willing to work out one-year deals twice now, and I think a lot of what his agent said is puffery. The only thing notable though is those one-year deals got done before the season ended. I imagine the club couldn't approach them with any serious negotiations this season with the CBA about to expire.
 
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