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(CNN)   "The solution to the problems must ultimately be found outside the American political system and will not be solved until America's rich and elderly become either less fearful or more generous." Well, we're boned   (cnn.com ) divider line
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2012-05-14 04:25:54 PM  
Or dead. There's always that third option.
 
2012-05-14 04:26:11 PM  
No, subby, the problems we face today will be solved by stopping socialism. I know this because the Republicans told me so, and they would never lie to America.
 
2012-05-14 04:30:19 PM  
No, the solution will be found in last week's thread about this very book those two are humping.
 
2012-05-14 04:37:25 PM  
The article still managed a "vote Republican at the end, talking about the "unsustainable" social security, medicare and other social programs.

They have been and are sustainable. We had a surplus at one time.
 
2012-05-14 04:42:34 PM  
Good Democrat, evil Republican. I get it.
 
2012-05-14 04:43:32 PM  
For the love of God, VOTE these idiots OUT of Congress this year.

GET RID OF THEM

PROBLEM SOLVED
 
2012-05-14 04:44:48 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: The article still managed a "vote Republican at the end, talking about the "unsustainable" social security, medicare and other social programs.

They have been and are sustainable. We had a surplus at one time.


bojon: Good Democrat, evil Republican. I get it.


Well which is it? I'm too lazy to RTFA.
 
2012-05-14 04:47:15 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Or dead. There's always that third option.


Seriously, this generation is going to have to up and die at some point. My grandmother was mean, scared of everything, and cheap as hell. She also always voted Republican.
 
2012-05-14 04:48:29 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: The article still managed a "vote Republican at the end, talking about the "unsustainable" social security, medicare and other social programs.


It's written by David Frum. What did you expect? He still carries water for the GOP even though he's been all but officially excommunicated from the party.
 
2012-05-14 04:54:55 PM  

ginandbacon: Well which is it? I'm too lazy to RTFA.


It's a repeat of the same book-tour interview beaten to death last week, so you'll see it sooner or later.
 
2012-05-14 05:00:19 PM  

Serious Black: Darth_Lukecash: The article still managed a "vote Republican at the end, talking about the "unsustainable" social security, medicare and other social programs.

It's written by David Frum. What did you expect? He still carries water for the GOP even though he's been all but officially excommunicated from the party.


I've come to the realization that losing communist threat has hurt the working and middle class. Without the possibility of a popular uprising that would seize their assets, the rich no longer feels the urge to bribe us not to revolt.
 
2012-05-14 05:04:46 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Serious Black: Darth_Lukecash: The article still managed a "vote Republican at the end, talking about the "unsustainable" social security, medicare and other social programs.

It's written by David Frum. What did you expect? He still carries water for the GOP even though he's been all but officially excommunicated from the party.

I've come to the realization that losing communist threat has hurt the working and middle class. Without the possibility of a popular uprising that would seize their assets, the rich no longer feels the urge to bribe us not to revolt.


It's also a lot easier to keep an eye on troublemakers these days, and then deal with them like the terrorists that they are.
 
2012-05-14 05:12:55 PM  
David Frum has been going through something of a sanity phase lately.
 
2012-05-14 05:17:15 PM  
Redistribution of wealth happens eventually. By hook or by crook, but it will happen.
 
2012-05-14 05:18:46 PM  
So....Soylent Green?
 
2012-05-14 05:31:40 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Redistribution of wealth happens eventually. By hook or by crook, but it will happen.


No, I'm afraid technology allows four or five people to hold off thousands.
 
2012-05-14 05:48:50 PM  
I keep thinking that we need to reform our voting laws, here in Arizona. Move the dates of all elections to July. This way we lose the retirees. I am tired of people who only want to invest themselves here 4 or 5 months out of the year to the state dictating the direction of our state. They don't care about education, that's someone else's problem. They don't care about prison privatization- it keeps the scary brown people away.
 
2012-05-14 05:55:00 PM  
"In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.



well yes, we already knew that...but it's nice to have independent verification.

ok, GOP shills...summon the derpstorm, for all the good it'll do ya. the secret is out, dear friends..and ye be boned!
 
2012-05-14 06:00:30 PM  
The Republican voting base includes not only the wealthy with the most to fear from tax increases, but also the elderly and the rural, the two constituencies that benefit the most from federal spending and thus have the most to lose from spending cuts.

All those constituencies together fear that almost any conceivable change will be change for the worse from their point of view: higher taxes, less Medicare, or possibly both. Any attempt to do more for other constituencies -- the unemployed, the young -- represents an extra, urgent threat to them.


I keep hearing that song by Depeche Mode - Lie to me - in my head. It's as if they want to be told by their Team that everything will be just fine.

I mean, they are the Team of Paul Ryan, that Ayn Rand disaster of a financial joke that the party and Romney want to ride to financial freedom.
 
2012-05-14 06:08:40 PM  

violentsalvation: David Frum has been going through something of a sanity phase lately.


David Frum has largely always been in the sane camp (short of his support for the Iraq war). He's Canadian conservative, by his own description, which there is clearly no place for in today's GOP, though.
 
2012-05-14 06:30:54 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Redistribution of wealth happens eventually. By hook or by crook, but it will happen.


Buffet is advocating fair tax but he's old and on his way out. Most old rich people naturally why to put this off. I think if the young rich people were smart that would to deal with this before it gets bloody or there is such extreme hyper inflation their money is worthless anyways.
 
2012-05-14 07:05:49 PM  
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO -
 
2012-05-14 07:30:45 PM  

bojon: Good Democrat, evil Republican. I get it.


This actually means a lot coming from David Frum. When you're a former economic speechwriter for Bush II, an analyst at the AEI, and written books on political conservatism praised by both Frank Rich and William F. Buckley, and written editorials while on the staff of the the Wall Street Journal--you probably need to be listened to on matters concerning the direction of the Republican Party.
 
2012-05-14 07:32:28 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Or dead. There's always that third option.


No, that just means we'll still be getting boned both before and after death too.
 
2012-05-14 07:35:32 PM  

Somacandra: bojon: Good Democrat, evil Republican. I get it.

This actually means a lot coming from David Frum. When you're a former economic speechwriter for Bush II, an analyst at the AEI, and written books on political conservatism praised by both Frank Rich and William F. Buckley, and written editorials while on the staff of the the Wall Street Journal--you probably need to be listened to on matters concerning the direction of the Republican Party.


credentials don't matter. street cred don't matter. what matters is loyality to party. you don't question the GOP. you don't dis The Party. you agree with them at all times. you follow orders. if you don't follow orders, if you do ask questions...then you aren't a Republican anymore...you are a traitor to the Cause. you are weak. questions lead to doubt, and doubt will be exploited by The Enemy.

there is no doubt. there is no fear. there is only the GOP. questions are for the weak. compromise is for the weak. you will be strong, or you will be obsolete and you will be discarded.
 
2012-05-14 07:40:52 PM  

Somacandra: This actually means a lot coming from David Frum. When you're a former economic speechwriter for Bush II, an analyst at the AEI, and written books on political conservatism praised by both Frank Rich and William F. Buckley, and written editorials while on the staff of the the Wall Street Journal--you probably need to be listened to on matters concerning the direction of the Republican Party.


Or maybe he's just selling his book.
 
2012-05-14 07:42:30 PM  

Gulper Eel: Or maybe he's just selling his book.


attack the source? that's what you're going to stick with?
 
2012-05-14 07:54:04 PM  

Somacandra: ...you probably need to be listened to on matters concerning the direction of the Republican Party.


He doesn't own a three-cornered hat, so I can't take him seriously.
 
2012-05-14 07:56:10 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: ecmoRandomNumbers: Redistribution of wealth happens eventually. By hook or by crook, but it will happen.

No, I'm afraid technology allows four or five people to hold off thousands.


I'm betting on history repeating itself, one way or another.

Eventually one of those five people figures out a way to turn the huddled masses against the other 4.
 
2012-05-14 07:57:54 PM  

meat0918: Darth_Lukecash: ecmoRandomNumbers: Redistribution of wealth happens eventually. By hook or by crook, but it will happen.

No, I'm afraid technology allows four or five people to hold off thousands.

I'm betting on history repeating itself, one way or another.

Eventually one of those five people figures out a way to turn the huddled masses against the other 4.


shiat...most of those 'huddled masses' know more about the nuts and bolts of technology than the 1% do.
 
2012-05-14 08:00:32 PM  

Gulper Eel: Somacandra: This actually means a lot coming from David Frum. When you're a former economic speechwriter for Bush II, an analyst at the AEI, and written books on political conservatism praised by both Frank Rich and William F. Buckley, and written editorials while on the staff of the the Wall Street Journal--you probably need to be listened to on matters concerning the direction of the Republican Party.

Or maybe he's just selling his book.


Or maybe he's just reviewing a book that two other guys wrote.
 
2012-05-14 08:03:23 PM  

Somacandra: This actually means a lot coming from David Frum. When you're a former economic speechwriter for Bush II, an analyst at the AEI, and written books on political conservatism praised by both Frank Rich and William F. Buckley, and written editorials while on the staff of the the Wall Street Journal--you probably need to be listened to on matters concerning the direction of the Republican Party.


Yeah like I'm gonna read that big ol' diatribe. My gut tells me all them fancy words can mean only one thing: THAT RINO NEEDS TO GO!

/MURICA
 
2012-05-14 08:03:28 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-14 08:05:41 PM  

make me some tea: For the love of God, VOTE these idiots OUT of Congress this year.

GET RID OF THEM

PROBLEM SOLVED


Yes, because the corruption isn't systemic and ingrained; the new blood wouldn't be taken so easily, I'm sure!
 
2012-05-14 08:09:10 PM  

Weaver95: Somacandra: bojon: Good Democrat, evil Republican. I get it.

This actually means a lot coming from David Frum. When you're a former economic speechwriter for Bush II, an analyst at the AEI, and written books on political conservatism praised by both Frank Rich and William F. Buckley, and written editorials while on the staff of the the Wall Street Journal--you probably need to be listened to on matters concerning the direction of the Republican Party.

credentials don't matter. street cred don't matter. what matters is loyality to party. you don't question the GOP. you don't dis The Party. you agree with them at all times. you follow orders. if you don't follow orders, if you do ask questions...then you aren't a Republican anymore...you are a traitor to the Cause. you are weak. questions lead to doubt, and doubt will be exploited by The Enemy.

there is no doubt. there is no fear. there is only the GOP. questions are for the weak. compromise is for the weak. you will be strong, or you will be obsolete and you will be discarded.


wondersinthedark.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-05-14 08:09:48 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: [img.photobucket.com image 542x698]


I'll be sending you my Psychiatrist's bills.

/you sonuvabiatch
 
2012-05-14 08:11:46 PM  

ArtosRC: make me some tea: For the love of God, VOTE these idiots OUT of Congress this year.

GET RID OF THEM

PROBLEM SOLVED

Yes, because the corruption isn't systemic and ingrained; the new blood wouldn't be taken so easily, I'm sure!


start here.
 
2012-05-14 08:12:53 PM  
wait wait wait, so it turns out that the boomers are the problem just like everyone under the age of 40 has been saying since the recession? shocking.
 
2012-05-14 08:15:37 PM  

lazyguineapig33: wait wait wait, so it turns out that the boomers are the problem just like everyone under the age of 40 has been saying since the recession? shocking.


they certainly aren't helping any...but this isn't an age specific issue.
 
2012-05-14 08:17:17 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: [img.photobucket.com image 542x698]


WTF is that!? gah!
 
2012-05-14 08:19:12 PM  

make me some tea: For the love of God, VOTE these idiots OUT of Congress this year.

GET RID OF THEM

PROBLEM SOLVED


How about "Don't vote those idiots into Congress in the first place".

I'm sick of the biatching.

Shut up and mount a campaign. I would if I had the cash.

The only candidate whose views you align 100% with, and who you are 100% sure you can trust in office is the motherfarker in the mirror.

// seriously, shut up
// both sides are bad
// so move somewhere else or accept the lesser of cthu evils
 
2012-05-14 08:20:51 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: The article still managed a "vote Republican at the end, talking about the "unsustainable" social security, medicare and other social programs.

They have been and are sustainable. We had a surplus at one time.


Medicare/Aid is not sustainable at current growth rates without reform.

www.taxpolicycenter.org

Medicare/aid is currently growing at nearly triple gdp growth rates. The average recipient spends 3x more than they put in adjusted for inflation. There needs to be reform.
 
2012-05-14 08:21:09 PM  
Boomers. Goddamn worst, useless, most narcissistic generation ever. They can't even die right.
 
2012-05-14 08:21:35 PM  

make me some tea: For the love of God, VOTE these idiots OUT of Congress this year.

GET RID OF THEM

PROBLEM SOLVED


And replace them with who? David Frum has sold his soul so many times over it's doubtful he can ever restore his credibility. That said, I won't shoot the messenger over an accurate message and Frum is right about one thing -- this is a demographic issue.

Smoke some dope, take a hit of acid and walk through a fantasy with me. I take to the soapbox and somehow steal a Congressional election. Then what? Most people who'd agree with my policies wouldn't believe my sincerity no matter what the fark I do, so they'll neither vote nor fund my campaigns. To stay in office more than two years, I'll need the old (entitled Republicans) to vote for me and the rich (entitled Republicans) to fund my campaigns. And even if I voted on principle, I'd have 500 people voting against me. Meanwhile the media is twisting everything I say out of context and Republican aides are going through my entire life with a fine-toothed comb. Someone I might've pissed off when I was a twentysomething asshole will crawl out of the woodwork and become a feature of the Fox Nutwork 24/7 newscycle, trashing my reputation. By the next primary season, people will be talking about my career in past tense and turning my speeches into memes. Thus ends my effort to change things -- and for what? To try my best to serve the most mean-spirited, two-faced, hypocritical, unthankful, cynical and shameless electorate of the developed world?? Trying to make Americans happy isn't worth it; no wonder the only people who run for Congress are corrupt.

Now, you can take this as a sign that the system is broken beyond repair, but I see it as the opposite. We are getting EXACTLY the Congress we vote for. Keep in mind the last Presidential candidate who ran on paying down the debt lost, retired from public office entirley and yet is continually mocked to this day.

I'd say America is quite well represented, thank you. We're a bunch of selfish entitled dog-eat-dog anti-intellectual assholes, so why the fark is anyone shocked or outraged that we're represented by a bunch of selfish, entitled, dog-eat-dog anti-intellectual assholes? Isn't that democracy?
 
2012-05-14 08:22:20 PM  

MyRandomName: Medicare/aid is currently growing at nearly triple gdp growth rates. The average recipient spends 3x more than they put in adjusted for inflation. There needs to be reform.


obviously, the solution is more tax cuts for the rich AND invading Iran.
 
2012-05-14 08:23:59 PM  

Weaver95: HotWingConspiracy: [img.photobucket.com image 542x698]

WTF is that!? gah!


looks like a horde old people jealously trying to steal the vitality of the youth, instead of accepting that their time is over and their duty is to step aside and allow the youth to flourish for the betterment of all.
 
2012-05-14 08:24:01 PM  

Weaver95: start here.


Talk of overthrowing the government through reduction to another political system? My word! That sounds entirely legitimate and not at all treasonous.
 
2012-05-14 08:24:13 PM  

Weaver95: HotWingConspiracy: [img.photobucket.com image 542x698]

WTF is that!? gah!


The boomers stealing our youthful essence.
 
2012-05-14 08:24:34 PM  
fta: "When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country's challenges."

Even RWers have acknowledged that the Republicans have gone too far to the radical extreme.

Now, if we can just get the corporate press to man up and quit playing their retarded false equivalency game and actually do their jobs maybe more people will figure out what some folks have been saying for a good long while now.
 
2012-05-14 08:25:42 PM  

Weaver95: HotWingConspiracy: [img.photobucket.com image 542x698]

WTF is that!? gah!


Looks like the last family reunion I attended.
 
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