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2012-05-14 08:15:51 PM
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2012-05-14 08:15:55 PM

super_grass: As wimpy as Paul's campaign was, it was still more effective and pleasant than OWS.


All those icky poors upset about a government too busy sucking corporate dick to do its actual job. How uncivilized!
 
2012-05-14 08:18:20 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: So you support discrimination against people with body ink?


I support the rights of a jewish or black business owner who decides not to do business with a white supremacist
 
2012-05-14 08:18:59 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Hunter_S_Thompson: I already said I don't care what race someone is.

Hunter_S_Thompson: white guilt

The part that always amuses me the most is when the Stormfronters don't realize they're not even half as clever as they think they are.


Fine, even though I already cleared that up, I'll coin a new term: Western Guilt.

"Western Guilt", that people who live in first world countries should be ashamed that they can live a bit more comfortably than people in some other parts of the world.
 
2012-05-14 08:19:56 PM

LawrencePerson: [www.thegatewaypundit.com image 550x428]


Oh look, an idiot who doesn't know the FY 2008 and FY 2009 budget was Bush's.

Wow...you were trying to pin the 2008 one on Obama? I didn't think you were that stupid.
 
2012-05-14 08:21:29 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: Fine, even though I already cleared that up, I'll coin a new term: Western Guilt.

"Western Guilt", that people who live in first world countries should be ashamed that they can live a bit more comfortably than people in some other parts of the world.


That's an even more stupid than white guilt. Something that I didn't even think was possible.

Seriously, just stop trying. It just makes you look that more foolish.
 
2012-05-14 08:21:49 PM

LawrencePerson: www.thegatewaypundit.com


Maybe we should raise taxes on the wealthy or cut some defense spending to start this thing getting back on track.

Or we could do it the Republican way; take money from poor kid's school lunches, eliminate Medicare and not provide cancer screenings for women.

toughie.
 
2012-05-14 08:21:52 PM

LawrencePerson: I am glad that Ron Paul has endorsed Ted Cruz in the Texas Senate race (as has Rand Paul, Sarah Palin, Jim DeMint, Pat Toomey and myself).

I attended last Sunday's Tea Party Express rally, if you want to see what a Ron Paul crowd looks like.


Did you this video of the Austin Tea Party Express rally?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqsoFPRULcY

I have hope for a Ron Paul win. To give up on Ron Paul is giving up on the only chance to restore the rule of law and our freedom this year. The fraud surrounding the currency has shifted the control of the government, the borders, and our military, to those that can fire up the fake money presses and print up what ever it takes to get their way.
 
2012-05-14 08:23:29 PM

j_twelve: Planning campaign strategy with white supremacists? Check.
Platform includes legal possibility of racial discrimination based on states laws? Check.
Platform includes more government control if you happen to have a vagina? Check.

VOTE RON PAUL, because *LIBERTY*


I have the possibility of killing myself in a car accident. WHY HASN'T THE GOVERNMENT OUTLAWED CARS?

To you, it seems, people can't control the government, so government should control the people.
 
2012-05-14 08:23:33 PM

StokeyBob: I have hope for a Ron Paul win. To give up on Ron Paul is giving up on the only chance to restore the rule of law and our freedom this year. The fraud surrounding the currency has shifted the control of the government, the borders, and our military, to those that can fire up the fake money presses and print up what ever it takes to get their way.


How many years of beans do you keep stocked up?
 
2012-05-14 08:23:45 PM

o5iiawah: Philip Francis Queeg: So you support discrimination against people with body ink?

I support the rights of a jewish or black business owner who decides not to do business with a white supremacist


See, this is the racism I keep talking about. What if a white business owner were to choose not to do business with an African-American that proclaims he "hates crackers"? Equality. Look up the definition.

I believe *any* business owner should be able to choose who he does or doesn't do business with. If, in this day and age, a white business owner chooses to "not serve blacks" as dumb FARK-ers will claim would happen, he would be run out of business in a heartbeat. I support the rights of anyone, black, white, jewish, Hispanic, Asian, to not do business with ANY customer who openly proclaims his or her hate for the owner's race.

Is that so hard?
 
2012-05-14 08:23:47 PM
Damn, he was sooooo close.
 
2012-05-14 08:23:51 PM

StokeyBob: LawrencePerson: I am glad that Ron Paul has endorsed Ted Cruz in the Texas Senate race (as has Rand Paul, Sarah Palin, Jim DeMint, Pat Toomey and myself).

I attended last Sunday's Tea Party Express rally, if you want to see what a Ron Paul crowd looks like.

Did you this video of the Austin Tea Party Express rally?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqsoFPRULcY

I have hope for a Ron Paul win. To give up on Ron Paul is giving up on the only chance to restore the rule of law and our freedom this year. The fraud surrounding the currency has shifted the control of the government, the borders, and our military, to those that can fire up the fake money presses and print up what ever it takes to get their way.


Wow. I actually believed you were serious for a moment.
 
2012-05-14 08:24:56 PM

super_grass: As wimpy as Paul's campaign was, it was still more effective and pleasant than OWS.



More effective in what regard? That the gold bugs are as useless as ever? That the anti-war and pro drug kids are too ignorant to realize your only chance is to vote Democrat? OWS has accomplished more than Ron Paul in his entire career. You kids are full of yourselves, not one good thing was accomplished by Ron Paul. Ever. He couldn't even get his way when the voting on the recognition of the civil rights act passed against his wishes.
 
2012-05-14 08:24:58 PM

lennavan: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

It's simple. Listen to a few Ron Paul soundbites about keeping government out of your life, fill in the rest with your imagination, and ignore reality/the rest of his platform. He's a frickin savior.

Try talking to a Ron Paul supporter about some of his crazier beliefs. They simply won't believe you.


Or your points mean shiat, but keep thinking whatever.

The man is far from perfect, but would be ten times the president Romney or Obama would be.
 
2012-05-14 08:27:02 PM

lukehasnoname: The man is far from perfect, but would be ten times the president Romney or Obama would be.



By sitting around complaining that absolutely NOTHING he wants to do will have any chance of passing? Obama ditched his left wing ideas for a more moderate stance and even against record filibusters he has accomplished a lot more than the 8 years of the Bush disaster you RON PAUL fans all voted for.
 
2012-05-14 08:27:07 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: Is that so hard?


No. Rather it's simple and myopic.
 
2012-05-14 08:27:42 PM

lukehasnoname: I have the possibility of killing myself in a car accident. WHY HASN'T THE GOVERNMENT OUTLAWED CARS?

To you, it seems, people can't control the government, so government should control the people.



Another public school education graduate. Or GED. I can't decide.
 
2012-05-14 08:28:32 PM

Mrtraveler01: Hunter_S_Thompson: Fine, even though I already cleared that up, I'll coin a new term: Western Guilt.

"Western Guilt", that people who live in first world countries should be ashamed that they can live a bit more comfortably than people in some other parts of the world.

That's an even more stupid than white guilt. Something that I didn't even think was possible.

Seriously, just stop trying. It just makes you look that more foolish.


An even more stupid what?

But again, someone who can't disagree that it happens, just that I, personally, am a fool. Fine, I'm a farking fool. But that doesn't mean that it isn't happening every day. Sorry, I'll never "stop trying".
 
2012-05-14 08:29:35 PM

physt: o5iiawah: Paul's message during the campaign all along has been to secure delegates. There's no reason for him to blow his money on attack ads and robo calls to win meaningless straw polls and popularity contests.

Philip Francis Queeg: Ron Paul's definition of "Liberty" also includes hanging a "White's only" sign on your place of business.

It would also allow for a black restaurant owner to refuse service to a hooded Klansman

So that makes it fair? You have know idea how stupid you sound, do you?


Where did I say it was fair?

Address my point, - what I said, not what you think I said or meant.
 
2012-05-14 08:29:48 PM

intelligent comment below: super_grass: As wimpy as Paul's campaign was, it was still more effective and pleasant than OWS.


More effective in what regard? That the gold bugs are as useless as ever? That the anti-war and pro drug kids are too ignorant to realize your only chance is to vote Democrat? OWS has accomplished more than Ron Paul in his entire career. You kids are full of yourselves, not one good thing was accomplished by Ron Paul. Ever. He couldn't even get his way when the voting on the recognition of the civil rights act passed against his wishes.


But...but Ron Paul wants to end the War on Drugs on a federal level.
 
2012-05-14 08:31:44 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: Fine, I'm a farking fool.


At least you admit it.

I'll go on feeling sorry that I'm white and middle class because that's the only logical explaination for why I'm not a selfish douchebag like Ayn Rand wants me to be.

/sarcasm
 
2012-05-14 08:32:19 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: super_grass: As wimpy as Paul's campaign was, it was still more effective and pleasant than OWS.

All those icky poors upset about a government too busy sucking corporate dick to do its actual job. How uncivilized!


You sound like a paulistinian.
 
2012-05-14 08:36:44 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Hunter_S_Thompson: Is that so hard?

No. Rather it's simple and myopic.


Maybe it is, and that's fine with me. But I think it would help if things were put into a better perspective. I know racists, real ones, and they're not good people. At all. It's not a label I would just throw around lightly.

Claiming "everyone" is racist for every misstep they make when someone of another race is around cheapens the word, and only serves to wash away the real racism that *does* take place every day, in every direction, black to white, white to black, hispanic to white, hispanic to black, Japanese to Chinese, Filipino to Martian (joke) the list goes on and on...

Pretending all kinds of racism doesn't exist only serves to entrench the real racists. Racists anymore are basically IRL trolls...and as with all trolls, the best thing you can do is just stop feeding them so they die off.
 
2012-05-14 08:37:09 PM

LawrencePerson: [www.thegatewaypundit.com image 550x428]


www.thegatewaypundit.com
/the gateway pundent, really...
//made up graph is made up
 
2012-05-14 08:37:44 PM

Mrtraveler01: But...but Ron Paul wants to end the War on Drugs on a federal level.



Exactly. He's okay with states locking someone in jail for 10 years for a simple possession charge. He just wants all the federal government to go away so corporations can more easily bribe local officials rather than the expensive lobbying of the federal government. Won't someone think of the poor corporations and their bottom line?
 
2012-05-14 08:38:56 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: Claiming "everyone" is racist for



WHITE GUILT!!

But you're not racist. You just know a lot of them. Riiiight.
 
2012-05-14 08:39:32 PM
If you elect a president who believes that federal government is fundamentally incompetent, he's promising to provide you with incompetent government.
 
2012-05-14 08:39:48 PM

super_grass: LouDobbsAwaaaay: super_grass: As wimpy as Paul's campaign was, it was still more effective and pleasant than OWS.

All those icky poors upset about a government too busy sucking corporate dick to do its actual job. How uncivilized!

You sound like a paulistinian.


You sound like Mitt Romney's wife.
 
2012-05-14 08:41:22 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: If, in this day and age, a white business owner chooses to "not serve blacks" as dumb FARK-ers will claim would happen, he would be run out of business in a heartbeat.


You know why that's true today? Because we now live in an age where "whites only signs" were taken down 48 years ago, due the Federal law that Ron Paul claims destroyed freedom. The fact is, yes, it's considered unacceptable now, after living in a time when integration became somewhat normative, but before 1964, segregation wasn't just a choice, it was a requirement.

For example, in Virginia:
"Every person... operating... any public hall, theater, opera house, motion picture show or any place of public entertainment or public assemblage which is attended by both white and colored persons, shall separate the white race and the colored race and shall set apart and designate... certain seats therein to be occupied by white persons and a portion thereof, or certain seats therein, to be occupied by colored persons."

Or in Geogia:
"All persons licensed to conduct a restaurant, shall serve either white people exclusively or colored people exclusively and shall not sell to the two races within the same room or serve the two races anywhere under the same license."

Or in Kentucky:
"Railroads were to provide separate coaches for white and colored passengers. Signs stating the race for each car must be posted. Penalty to do so was railway companies that failed could be fined from between $500 to $1,500. Any conductors who failed to enforce the law were to be fined from $50 to $100."

No business owner in the Jim Crow South segregated because he was free to do so or not, depending on how he felt about the issue. Paul's argument that they used to be free to follow their own wishes until the big, bad government came along is refuted by a quick look at historical facts.

The free market never would've ended segregation.
"Any person...who shall be guilty of printing, publishing or circulating printed, typewritten or written matter urging or presenting for public acceptance or general information, arguments or suggestions in favor of social equality or of intermarriage between whites and Negroes, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and subject to fine not exceeding five thousand (5,000.00) dollars or imprisonment not exceeding six (6) months or both." (Miss. law)
 
2012-05-14 08:41:28 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: detritus: intelligent comment below: Hunter_S_Thompson: Remember, kids: here on FARK if you don't like endless wars, TSA, PATRIOT, drug wars, erasure of all civil rights, then you are a wild-eyed racist homophobe and need re-education. And need to buy some carbon credits, because you don't already have enough white guilt.

Your hypocritical Republican party shoved all that shiat down everyones throats, scaring you into thinking they were here to protect you from the devil who was going to destroy America. The corporations who own the media are all right wing conservatives, but your opinion is voting for a right wing conservative in a right wing conservative party will *CHANGE* everything once he gets elected because he will be King and can do what he wants.

Bullshiat. Ron Paul has been the Republican's party worst nightmare. He's the ONLY TRUE anti-war candidate running. Your puppet Obama? While he was in his little secret Afghanistan excursion, he signed a pact keeping us there until 2024. He signed the NDAA. He made it a felony to peacefully protest people with secret service protection, something he can give to anyone, at any time, without any notice. Ron Paul has been smeared by the right-wing media for YEARS. Everyone from Fox News all the way to MSNBC has been nothing but blackouts, smears and half-truths even to this day.

The truth is the Democrats have been anti-war since Vietnam. Anti-drug war since the 80's but conservative pressure and the voters scare everyone into the status quo. If you really wanted no wars, no patriot act, you shouldn't have voted for REPUBLICANS in the first place.

Your truth is full of shiat. Yeah, who started Vietnam? Oh that's right, Lyndon Johnson - the guy who pacified everyone by signing the civil rights act, medicare and medicaid (which in turn had a mess exodus of Democrats to join the Republican party) with one hand while bombing hundreds of thousands of men, women and children and bringing tens of thousands of our soldier ...

Farking Eisenhower started Vietnam.


I thought it was the French...
 
2012-05-14 08:41:57 PM

intelligent comment below: That the anti-war and pro drug kids are too ignorant to realize your only chance is to vote Democrat?


Vote Obama and he'll stop the pot crackdown, TSA scans, and drone attacks that he himself sanctioned!

And just look at all those OWS accomplishments, like... like... vandalism! Hell, even the TEA Party got Rand in and managed to stir the congressional pot. Why don't you name one candidate or piece of legislation that OWS backed and became successful. Take your time now.
 
2012-05-14 08:45:52 PM

super_grass: intelligent comment below: That the anti-war and pro drug kids are too ignorant to realize your only chance is to vote Democrat?

Vote Obama and he'll stop the pot crackdown, TSA scans, and drone attacks that he himself sanctioned!

And just look at all those OWS accomplishments, like... like... vandalism! Hell, even the TEA Party got Rand in and managed to stir the congressional pot. Why don't you name one candidate or piece of legislation that OWS backed and became successful. Take your time now.


1. I mentioned earlier that Obama had to take a right turn just like Clinton because of the massive attacks on everything he did and said by the right wing spin machine

2. You didn't say Tea Party or the sell out Rand Paul, you said RON PAUL. Backtracking much?
 
2012-05-14 08:46:56 PM

super_grass: And just look at all those OWS accomplishments, like... like... vandalism! Hell, even the TEA Party got Rand in and managed to stir the congressional pot. Why don't you name one candidate or piece of legislation that OWS backed and became successful. Take your time now.


It's almost as if a phony front-group for corporate influence in government gets treated with kid-gloves by the media and has a strong impact on elections, while one that has a message demanding less corporate influence in government gets its skull shattered by riot police and taken down without so much as a peep from Washington.

Government is bought. Marching around with assault rifles like Al Qaeda in reverence to the people who bought it isn't "stirring the pot".
 
2012-05-14 08:52:14 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: super_grass: And just look at all those OWS accomplishments, like... like... vandalism! Hell, even the TEA Party got Rand in and managed to stir the congressional pot. Why don't you name one candidate or piece of legislation that OWS backed and became successful. Take your time now.

It's almost as if a phony front-group for corporate influence in government gets treated with kid-gloves by the media and has a strong impact on elections, while one that has a message demanding less corporate influence in government gets its skull shattered by riot police and taken down without so much as a peep from Washington.

Government is bought. Marching around with assault rifles like Al Qaeda in reverence to the people who bought it isn't "stirring the pot".



The best part is he never mentioned the Tea Party astro turfers. He said the RON PAUL campaign accomplished more than OWS. Which is hilarious considering RON PAUL never did a useful thing in his entire legislative career.

So then he backpedals to the Tea Party vs OWS. While as you said the Tea Party was fronted by billionaires, and contrary to Free Republic reports, OWS is not a Soros program. Meanwhile the debate about OWS ideas are in everything from higher taxes to cheap school loans.

All legislation the right wing including the Tea Party has spent millions blocking.
 
2012-05-14 08:54:28 PM
Also forgot to mention the huge backlash to Citizens United that's still going on in legislatures and court houses. That alone is OWS' best fight. The only thing the Tea Party did was hold the country hostage so they could get their government handouts while cutting handouts to minorities.
 
2012-05-14 08:55:47 PM

intelligent comment below:

1. I mentioned earlier that Obama had to take a right turn just like Clinton because of the massive attacks on everything he did and said by the right wing spin machine

2. You didn't say Tea Party or the sell out Rand Paul, you said RON PAUL. Backtracking much?


Yeah, the GOP was totally bellyaching for a bigger drug war at the time. I bet they were the ones pushing the feds to sell guns to drug cartels too! If Obama can suddenly take a stance on gay marriage and antagonize southern voters, he can afford leave druggies alone.

Rand was one of a handful of people who opposed the more draconian parts of the NDAA. If that makes him a sellout, then everyone else must be traitors. The TEA Party was associated with Rand and Ron, and they were able to affect change, unlike say OWS.
 
2012-05-14 08:56:30 PM

HighOnCraic: Or in Kentucky:
"Railroads were to provide separate coaches for white and colored passengers. Signs stating the race for each car must be posted. Penalty to do so was railway companies that failed could be fined from between $500 to $1,500. Any conductors who failed to enforce the law were to be fined from $50 to $100."



Damn that really disappoints me yet at the same time I don't find it surprising considering the racist idiots I've encountered here. The worst was a store clerk who wouldn't sell a friend of mine cigarettes because "She didn't serve her kind". That was the last time that store ever got any of my money.
 
2012-05-14 08:56:43 PM

intelligent comment below: Also forgot to mention the huge backlash to Citizens United that's still going on in legislatures and court houses. That alone is OWS' best fight. The only thing the Tea Party did was hold the country hostage so they could get their government handouts while cutting handouts to minorities.


[citation needed]
 
2012-05-14 08:57:36 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: super_grass: And just look at all those OWS accomplishments, like... like... vandalism! Hell, even the TEA Party got Rand in and managed to stir the congressional pot. Why don't you name one candidate or piece of legislation that OWS backed and became successful. Take your time now.

It's almost as if a phony front-group for corporate influence in government gets treated with kid-gloves by the media and has a strong impact on elections, while one that has a message demanding less corporate influence in government gets its skull shattered by riot police and taken down without so much as a peep from Washington.

Government is bought. Marching around with assault rifles like Al Qaeda in reverence to the people who bought it isn't "stirring the pot".


Oh man, here comes the conspiracies. You have more in common with the paulites than you think.
 
2012-05-14 09:07:14 PM
wonkette.com
 
2012-05-14 09:07:50 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: jso2897: Hunter_S_Thompson: DreamWeaver: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

why people support endless wars, the tsa, patriot act, ndaa, sopa, drug wars, erasure of the 4th amendment, etc etc is a mystery to me.

Because it's not a talking point on MSNBC or CNN. People who are so desperate for acceptance from their peers and have to feel better than everyone else (read: most of FARK) can't go against what their years of indoctrination have told them is important. I remember having Anderson (CIA) Cooper shoved down my throat in middle school through a 12-minute brainwashing session every morning. That's why people don't get it, their need to be "smarter and trendier" has been packaged and sold to them since they could begin thinking critically.

Same thing on the right, if FOX isn't covering it, then it just isn't important. Because MSNBC, FOX, and CNN are the only people who know what's really going on, and the rest of us are wild-eyed Alex Jones level kooks.

Remember, kids: here on FARK if you don't like endless wars, TSA, PATRIOT, drug wars, erasure of all civil rights, then you are a wild-eyed racist homophobe and need re-education. And need to buy some carbon credits, because you don't already have enough white guilt.

The real Hunter S Thompson could write a whole lot better than you can.

So you don't disagree with me, you just think that my prose sucks. Great! I'll try harder next time.


No need to put yourself out on my account.
 
2012-05-14 09:08:30 PM
THERE'S STILL SOME SUGAR UP THERE. KEEP LOOKING.
 
2012-05-14 09:12:22 PM
What I learned in this thread: Low voter turnout means a do over of the presidential election, Roosevelt started the cold war during the Truman administration, OWS is a failure because they didn't get anyone elected in the elections that haven't happened since they formed, and refusing to serve a black person because they're black is exactly the same as refusing to serve a fully hooded Klansman.

Apparently for Paul cultists, facts, like currency, should be decided by the market.
 
2012-05-14 09:20:07 PM

intelligent comment below: detritus: who started Vietnam?

The Vietnam war started in 1955, moron. And Kennedy was going to end it and look what they did to him. Johnson was a right wing conservative. A Republican today. The rest of your gibberish shows you lack a true education. Something Republicans are well known for. Oh and actually serving their country too.


Apparently you didn't read the rest of the thread. Johnson a right wing conservative? The guy who passed the civil rights bill, medicare, medicaid, yeah a real right-winger.
By that logic, I can call Obama a right-wing conservative for drumming up the war machine while passing the health care bill.
Oh, and I served my country, and I have people in my family who did all the way back to the Revolutionary war.
I accept your apology.
 
2012-05-14 09:45:12 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: But that makes me a racist, right?

[trayvonflipsbird]


No, but that picture is a pretty strong indicator.

You get called a racist a lot I'm guessing.

/Bummed now that a racist Paultard has HST's name for a handle.
 
2012-05-14 09:46:40 PM
DreamWeaver:"nothing better to do" - you make it sound like wanting your country to be better is unimportant.

Let me know when they [or you] do that.


How much have you donated to Romney?

Haha, nice strawman, tard. Not that it's an of your business but just to appease your feeble mind I'll detail all of my political donations: $0.


Im sure you have something more important to do.

A job and full time school.


Is American Idol on yet?

No idea.


Anything else?
 
2012-05-14 09:55:05 PM

rufus-t-firefly: DreamWeaver: Not lookin for the perfect president, just the best available. So Im not sure it matters, since Paul has made it clear that he doesnt support using ones religion to legislate. He, for instance, doesnt give two shiats whether you use birth control.

Yeah, about that...

From Wikipedia:

In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed from the jurisdiction of federal courts "any claim based upon the right of privacy, including any such claim related to any issue of sexual practices, orientation, or reproduction" and "any claim based upon equal protection of the laws to the extent such claim is based upon the right to marry without regard to sex or sexual orientation." If made law, these provisions would remove sexual practices, and particularly same-sex unions, from federal jurisdiction.

H.R. 4379 (109th): We the People Act

Here's the problem: the Supreme Court ruled in Roe v Wade that abortion fell under the Right to Privacy. Griswold v Connecticut affirmed that birth control is covered by the Right to Privacy as well.

But let's just ignore the fact that his proposed law would allow our right to use birth control to be taken away with no legal recourse. What is RON PAUL's view of the "Right to Privacy?"

"Consider the Lawrence case decided by the Supreme Court in June. The Court determined that Texas had no right to establish its own standards for private sexual conduct, because gay sodomy is somehow protected under the 14th amendment "right to privacy". Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be, there clearly is no right to privacy nor sodomy found anywhere in the Constitution. There are, however, states' rights - rights plainly affirmed in the Ninth and Tenth amendments. Under those amendments, the State of Texas has the right to decide for itself how to regulate social matters like sex, using its own local standards."
-Ron Paul

The worst part of that quote is that he referred to the Ninth Amendment, which does NOT refer to states' ...


My own hypothesis, based on the observation that whenever I've heard or read Ron Paul mentioning the Constitution, I've never seen him specifying "... of the United States of America," nor even "the U.S. Constitution."

I suspect that he mentally adds, "... of the Confederate States of America," whenever he mentions the Constitution, especially when claiming to be the "Champion" of it. Unlike the USA Constitution, the CSA Constitution does directly invoke "Almighty God," for instance, and is of course very pro-States' Rights (except for the Right of States to abolish slavery).
 
2012-05-14 09:56:34 PM

COMALite J: rufus-t-firefly: DreamWeaver: Not lookin for the perfect president, just the best available. So Im not sure it matters, since Paul has made it clear that he doesnt support using ones religion to legislate. He, for instance, doesnt give two shiats whether you use birth control.

Yeah, about that...

From Wikipedia:

In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed from the jurisdiction of federal courts "any claim based upon the right of privacy, including any such claim related to any issue of sexual practices, orientation, or reproduction" and "any claim based upon equal protection of the laws to the extent such claim is based upon the right to marry without regard to sex or sexual orientation." If made law, these provisions would remove sexual practices, and particularly same-sex unions, from federal jurisdiction.

H.R. 4379 (109th): We the People Act

Here's the problem: the Supreme Court ruled in Roe v Wade that abortion fell under the Right to Privacy. Griswold v Connecticut affirmed that birth control is covered by the Right to Privacy as well.

But let's just ignore the fact that his proposed law would allow our right to use birth control to be taken away with no legal recourse. What is RON PAUL's view of the "Right to Privacy?"

"Consider the Lawrence case decided by the Supreme Court in June. The Court determined that Texas had no right to establish its own standards for private sexual conduct, because gay sodomy is somehow protected under the 14th amendment "right to privacy". Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be, there clearly is no right to privacy nor sodomy found anywhere in the Constitution. There are, however, states' rights - rights plainly affirmed in the Ninth and Tenth amendments. Under those amendments, the State of Texas has the right to decide for itself how to regulate social matters like sex, using its own local standards."
-Ron Paul

The worst part of that quote is that he referred to the Ninth Amendment, which does NOT ...


Part of me really wonders if he's getting the Constitution mixed up with the Articles of Confederation.
 
2012-05-14 10:03:18 PM
The well laid plans of mice and men and whatever Ron Paul is aft gang agley.
 
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