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2012-05-14 05:04:29 PM  

FlashHarry: styckx: Why is this even a newsflash?

ooh, i know: because it just happened! (even cnn gives it the "breaking" label)


You apparently aren't signed up for CNN Breaking News texts. Since 2001, the threshold has gone from "some dudes just slammed 2 planes into the WTC" to "Britney Spears just got out of her limo!"
 
2012-05-14 05:05:45 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Tenga: I live in Tennessee, so it really doesn't matter who the fark I vote for.

/explaining peoples cognitive dissonance to them is fun though

Georgia here, but yeah, this.


Kansas here, this.

/we had a democrate as governor for a while but if you suggest voting anything but republican in a national election you get all sorts of weird looks.
 
2012-05-14 05:06:00 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: Earmarks is the responsibility of the Congress. We should earmark even more. We should earmark every penny. So, that's the principle that we have to follow and the - and the responsibility of the Congress. The whole idea that you vote against an earmark, you don't save a penny. That just goes to the administration and they get to allocate the funds.


I've read this twice and still don't understand his point.


As in all statements by Republicans it translates to: "I got mine, Fark You!"
 
2012-05-14 05:06:12 PM  

A Terrible Human: Could there still be a chance of a brokered convention?


I thought it was a guarantee that Romney cannot officially clinch. So, yeah, there's a "chance". But the GOP nomination process is so convoluted, I quit trying to research it.
 
2012-05-14 05:06:52 PM  
I think this website is full of yuppies. YUPPIES I TELL YA!
 
2012-05-14 05:08:01 PM  

Bag of Hammers: Incog_Neeto: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

This is why

"Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens' lives. Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons."
― Ron Paul

You know how I know you don't know anything about Paul's actual Campaign platform?


"Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is allowing states to deny people their basic rights - abortion, freedom of speech, abrogating the Civil Rights Act...

Freedom is the freedom to deny others the freedom to do things that you think your god doesn't like."

From RON PAUL's website:

"I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate."

-Ron Paul


Yep, nothing says "Freedom" like basing one's positions on his religious faith. Nothing protects liberty like basing your agenda on your religion at the expense of others. History is as replete with examples of religious fanatics guaranteeing religious equality as the Constitution is replete with references to God.

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
-Thomas Jefferson

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history."
-James Madison

"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers."
-Ron Paul

"Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government's hostility to religion."
-Ron Paul

Lemme know when you find the first Constitutional reference to God, please.
 
2012-05-14 05:08:29 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: Earmarks is the responsibility of the Congress. We should earmark even more. We should earmark every penny. So, that's the principle that we have to follow and the - and the responsibility of the Congress. The whole idea that you vote against an earmark, you don't save a penny. That just goes to the administration and they get to allocate the funds.


I've read this twice and still don't understand his point.


He's saying it's only bad when other people take federal money, when he takes it it's only because they would have spent it anyway.
 
2012-05-14 05:10:02 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Romney will have a proper majority. There cannot be a brokered convention. All the hubub was about Paul introducing annoying motions, not brokering. Now even that possibility is gone without Paul giving direction to his herd.


I thought he could not clinch? I swore that was mentioned when Rick, Newt, and Ron were all finally getting the message that it was over.
 
2012-05-14 05:10:43 PM  

BKITU: DreamWeaver: BKITU: DreamWeaver: We show up. You dont. We gain. You lose. Your fault.

You wish any harder and Tinkerbell will get her wings permanently.

What part of my statement is wishing?

Highlighted for your wishfulthinkingification.

It's the one constant among all Paultards -- the limitless capacity for wishful thinking. It's funnier and cheaper than going to a movie, so thanks for the lulz.


"lose" is the opposite of "gain" you halfwit. Read it again.
 
2012-05-14 05:11:19 PM  
I love when college-age kids get up in arms about RON PAUL, especially public colleges - this is a guy who wants to abolish the Department of Education and doesn't believe the government should be involved in education, in any sector, in any way.

If Ron Paul was in charge and able to pull off this nonsense when I was 18, I never would have been able to afford school.
 
2012-05-14 05:12:22 PM  

DreamWeaver: Aarontology: KangTheMad: Citation needed.

//I wanna use this, but want citation
//not Cessna

Link

$158,000,000 in 2011. Which is down from the $400,000,000 he requested in 2010.

So yeah. He's great at not getting his laws passed, and even better at funneling public money to his district.

He works for the people of texas, and he cant change the system as well from outside it. This isnt a convincing argument.


Please show how he has "changed the system" from the inside during his 21 years in Congress.

Just a couple of examples will suffice.
 
2012-05-14 05:14:23 PM  

DreamWeaver: BKITU: DreamWeaver: BKITU: DreamWeaver: We show up. You dont. We gain. You lose. Your fault.

You wish any harder and Tinkerbell will get her wings permanently.

What part of my statement is wishing?

Highlighted for your wishfulthinkingification.

It's the one constant among all Paultards -- the limitless capacity for wishful thinking. It's funnier and cheaper than going to a movie, so thanks for the lulz.

"lose" is the opposite of "gain" you halfwit. Read it again.


LOLNO

Tinkerbell's almost there, man. KEEP GOING! =D
 
2012-05-14 05:15:31 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: DreamWeaver: Aarontology: KangTheMad: Citation needed.

//I wanna use this, but want citation
//not Cessna

Link

$158,000,000 in 2011. Which is down from the $400,000,000 he requested in 2010.

So yeah. He's great at not getting his laws passed, and even better at funneling public money to his district.

He works for the people of texas, and he cant change the system as well from outside it. This isnt a convincing argument.

Please show how he has "changed the system" from the inside during his 21 years in Congress.

Just a couple of examples will suffice.


Addendum: he served from April 1976 to January 1977, then from 1979-1985, and then from 1997 until now.

Just trying to help DreamWeaver with his research.
 
2012-05-14 05:15:39 PM  
I am completely fine with Ron Paul screwing with things during the convention.
 
2012-05-14 05:16:51 PM  

Detinwolf: I love when college-age kids get up in arms about RON PAUL, especially public colleges - this is a guy who wants to abolish the Department of Education and doesn't believe the government should be involved in education, in any sector, in any way.

If Ron Paul was in charge and able to pull off this nonsense when I was 18, I never would have been able to afford school.


Yes, but you'd be slathered in Liberty Sauce and covered in Freedom Sprinkles, and that's what's important.
 
2012-05-14 05:18:44 PM  

Kit Fister: massive inflation of debt,


Has the debt increased under him? I don't know this to be the case. I mean the debt always increases, with interest and all, is it actually attributed to his policies in any real way?


I wasn't familiar with the Fast and Furious scandal, I probably heard about it and thought people were talking about those stupid movies and ignored everything else I heard.
 
2012-05-14 05:18:44 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Bag of Hammers: Incog_Neeto: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

This is why

"Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens' lives. Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons."
― Ron Paul

You know how I know you don't know anything about Paul's actual Campaign platform?

"Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is allowing states to deny people their basic rights - abortion, freedom of speech, abrogating the Civil Rights Act...

Freedom is the freedom to deny others the freedom to do things that you think your god doesn't like."

From RON PAUL's website:

"I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate."

-Ron Paul

Yep, nothing says "Freedom" like basing one's positions on his religious faith. Nothing protects liberty like basing your agenda on your religion at the expense of others. History is as replete with examples of religious fanatics guaranteeing religious equality as the Constitution is replete with references to God.

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
-Thomas Jefferson

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history."
-James Madison

"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers."
-Ron Paul

"Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government's hostility to religion."
-Ron Paul

Lemme know when you find the first Constitutional reference to God, please.


Yep hes wrong about this. Not lookin for the perfect president, just the best available. So Im not sure it matters, since Paul has made it clear that he doesnt support using ones religion to legislate. He, for instance, doesnt give two shiats whether you use birth control.
 
2012-05-14 05:18:47 PM  

manimal2878: JusticeandIndependence: Earmarks is the responsibility of the Congress. We should earmark even more. We should earmark every penny. So, that's the principle that we have to follow and the - and the responsibility of the Congress. The whole idea that you vote against an earmark, you don't save a penny. That just goes to the administration and they get to allocate the funds.


I've read this twice and still don't understand his point.

He's saying it's only bad when other people take federal money, when he takes it it's only because they would have spent it anyway.


Or "it's virtuous to get federal spending in your own district, especially if you can appear principled by voting against the bills.

You get federal projects and you get re-elected, all while grandstanding against federal spending."
 
2012-05-14 05:19:17 PM  

Corporate Self: [img.gawkerassets.com image 250x333]

"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Libertarians suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."


Help me, OB-GYN Kenobi, you're our only hope.
 
2012-05-14 05:20:44 PM  
This isn't about RON PAUL. It's about the DOLLAR BILL,

/Could we get some Johnny Guitar Watson up in here?
 
2012-05-14 05:20:54 PM  

Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.



Because a lot of idiots believe the Republican party will suddenly change and become anti-war and pro drug legalization.
 
2012-05-14 05:20:59 PM  

IoSaturnalia: manimal2878: It seems to me like campaigning is actually a way to launder money, why else would these guys have stayed in for so long with no chance to win?

We'll let you know how that worked out for John Edwards.

After the sentencing.


Worked for Newt, Palin and Christine O'Donell. Likely plenty of others too.
 
2012-05-14 05:20:59 PM  
The biggest news here is that the media actually decided to cover Ron Paul for once!
 
2012-05-14 05:21:15 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: DreamWeaver: Aarontology: KangTheMad: Citation needed.

//I wanna use this, but want citation
//not Cessna

Link

$158,000,000 in 2011. Which is down from the $400,000,000 he requested in 2010.

So yeah. He's great at not getting his laws passed, and even better at funneling public money to his district.

He works for the people of texas, and he cant change the system as well from outside it. This isnt a convincing argument.

Please show how he has "changed the system" from the inside during his 21 years in Congress.

Just a couple of examples will suffice.


Hes currently running for president, will appear at the national convention, and has converted thousands of people including myself to libertarian ideals.

So... theres that. Certainly more than I can say for any of my floridian reps. Where you from? Did your guys vote for patriot or ndaa? Mine did.
 
2012-05-14 05:23:33 PM  

Kit Fister: Everyone pans Paul as crazy, but he's the only one who has solid points on what he thinks need to be done. Mr. Mitt "I can be that candidate! You want more liberal? I can be more liberal!" Romney, and Mr. Barack "First I was kenyan, then not a kenyan, then a muslim, the not a muslim, then socialist, then not socialist, then the president nobody even really understands or actually listens to" Obama have some level of vacillation on the issues, but not Paul.

It's really scary, though, when you're a right-leaning independent and Ron Paul is the sanest of all of the candidates they put forth...or, well, allow to get onto national television anyway since if the really sane ones got out, then people would understand exactly how whackey the whack jobs are...


Once they let RON PAUL speak in the debates it was pretty clear he was just as crazy as the rest.
 
2012-05-14 05:23:58 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: manimal2878: JusticeandIndependence: Earmarks is the responsibility of the Congress. We should earmark even more. We should earmark every penny. So, that's the principle that we have to follow and the - and the responsibility of the Congress. The whole idea that you vote against an earmark, you don't save a penny. That just goes to the administration and they get to allocate the funds.


I've read this twice and still don't understand his point.

He's saying it's only bad when other people take federal money, when he takes it it's only because they would have spent it anyway.

Or "it's virtuous to get federal spending in your own district, especially if you can appear principled by voting against the bills.

You get federal projects and you get re-elected, all while grandstanding against federal spending."


if more congressman were as principled to vote against the bills like Paul does the bills would suddenly stop passing.

Again youre confusing the fact that were looking for the best presidential candidate available, not the perfect person to be president.
 
2012-05-14 05:25:04 PM  

DreamWeaver: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

why people support endless wars, the tsa, patriot act, ndaa, sopa, drug wars, erasure of the 4th amendment, etc etc is a mystery to me.


Because it's not a talking point on MSNBC or CNN. People who are so desperate for acceptance from their peers and have to feel better than everyone else (read: most of FARK) can't go against what their years of indoctrination have told them is important. I remember having Anderson (CIA) Cooper shoved down my throat in middle school through a 12-minute brainwashing session every morning. That's why people don't get it, their need to be "smarter and trendier" has been packaged and sold to them since they could begin thinking critically.

Same thing on the right, if FOX isn't covering it, then it just isn't important. Because MSNBC, FOX, and CNN are the only people who know what's really going on, and the rest of us are wild-eyed Alex Jones level kooks.

Remember, kids: here on FARK if you don't like endless wars, TSA, PATRIOT, drug wars, erasure of all civil rights, then you are a wild-eyed racist homophobe and need re-education. And need to buy some carbon credits, because you don't already have enough white guilt.
 
2012-05-14 05:25:28 PM  

DreamWeaver: R.A.Danny: I kinda forgot he was still running.

thats why hes stopping. Why spend millions campaigning when the media wont even mention it? Save the money for tv ads round tampa time.


Yeah, that's what he's doing.
 
2012-05-14 05:25:45 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: [newspaper.li image 568x426]

Apparently Ron was unable to rise above Fiat currency.


Fiat currency was fine, until they wasted it on Chrysler.
 
2012-05-14 05:27:22 PM  

DreamWeaver: Yep hes wrong about this. Not lookin for the perfect president, just the best available. So Im not sure it matters, since Paul has made it clear that he doesnt support using ones religion to legislate. He, for instance, doesnt give two shiats whether you use birth control.


He does however give many shiats whether you get an abortion or marry a same sex spouse. He cares so much about those issues that he has introduced a bill limiting the access to the Federal Courts and limiting the applicability of the equal protection clause on those issues.
 
2012-05-14 05:28:23 PM  

Hunter_S_Thompson: And need to buy some carbon credits, because you don't already have enough white guilt.


So climate conservation is primarily a race thing with you? And you're not a racist.
 
2012-05-14 05:29:06 PM  

intelligent comment below: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.


Because a lot of idiots believe the Republican party will suddenly change and become anti-war and pro drug legalization.


name calling. cute.

A lot of people believe the republican party will SPLINTER, is more accurate. Im one of those, and Ill support Paul even more if he causes that to happen. The religious right needs to be seperate from the libertarian oriented and shown to be uniquely insane. There are still republicans who are fine with abortion, weed, and gays. Theyre just drowned out.
 
2012-05-14 05:29:45 PM  

Hunter_S_Thompson: DreamWeaver: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

why people support endless wars, the tsa, patriot act, ndaa, sopa, drug wars, erasure of the 4th amendment, etc etc is a mystery to me.

Because it's not a talking point on MSNBC or CNN. People who are so desperate for acceptance from their peers and have to feel better than everyone else (read: most of FARK) can't go against what their years of indoctrination have told them is important. I remember having Anderson (CIA) Cooper shoved down my throat in middle school through a 12-minute brainwashing session every morning. That's why people don't get it, their need to be "smarter and trendier" has been packaged and sold to them since they could begin thinking critically.

Same thing on the right, if FOX isn't covering it, then it just isn't important. Because MSNBC, FOX, and CNN are the only people who know what's really going on, and the rest of us are wild-eyed Alex Jones level kooks.

Remember, kids: here on FARK if you don't like endless wars, TSA, PATRIOT, drug wars, erasure of all civil rights, then you are a wild-eyed racist homophobe and need re-education. And need to buy some carbon credits, because you don't already have enough white guilt.


Exactly....

Only you forgot "Justice For Trayvon".....where its OK for a family to cry Racism....then make money off their dead kid...enough to take trips to London, etc...
 
2012-05-14 05:29:49 PM  

DreamWeaver: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

why people support endless wars, the tsa, patriot act, ndaa, sopa, drug wars, erasure of the 4th amendment, etc etc is a mystery to me.


BSARSVRP?
 
2012-05-14 05:30:36 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x177]


Moments of silence are not in the Constitution.
 
2012-05-14 05:31:30 PM  

DreamWeaver: BarkingUnicorn: In the past 8 years, Ron Paul has sponsored 464 bills. One has passed:

"To authorize the Administrator of General Services to convey a parcel of real property in Galveston, Texas, to the Galveston Historical Foundation."

He just can't get shiat done.

What were Obamas legislative accomplishments again?

Also, why does the guy who gets the most bills passed get to be called the winner?

WE LOVE MORE LAWS WE WANT MORE LAWS YAAARRRGGHHH


Why do you spend so much energy defending someone that supports state and local authoritarianism? In what universe does that qualify as libertarian?
 
2012-05-14 05:31:40 PM  

Hunter_S_Thompson: DreamWeaver: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

why people support endless wars, the tsa, patriot act, ndaa, sopa, drug wars, erasure of the 4th amendment, etc etc is a mystery to me.

Because it's not a talking point on MSNBC or CNN. People who are so desperate for acceptance from their peers and have to feel better than everyone else (read: most of FARK) can't go against what their years of indoctrination have told them is important. I remember having Anderson (CIA) Cooper shoved down my throat in middle school through a 12-minute brainwashing session every morning. That's why people don't get it, their need to be "smarter and trendier" has been packaged and sold to them since they could begin thinking critically.

Same thing on the right, if FOX isn't covering it, then it just isn't important. Because MSNBC, FOX, and CNN are the only people who know what's really going on, and the rest of us are wild-eyed Alex Jones level kooks.

Remember, kids: here on FARK if you don't like endless wars, TSA, PATRIOT, drug wars, erasure of all civil rights, then you are a wild-eyed racist homophobe and need re-education. And need to buy some carbon credits, because you don't already have enough white guilt.


Yeahhhh... that's it, exactly. Yup.
 
2012-05-14 05:31:54 PM  

FlashHarry: unfortunately, you cant run a campaign on crazy alone.


Made me LOL. Thanks ;3
 
2012-05-14 05:31:59 PM  
He might be the perfect candidate, but he's the best candidate there is.

On the Republican side.
 
2012-05-14 05:32:25 PM  
REMEMBER SHEEPLE, THE NIGHT IS ALWAYS DARKEST BEFORE THE DAWN. DAWN RHYMES WITH RON. RON PAUL.

COINCIDENCE? I DON'T KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU GO ASK OBAMBI AND SING KUMBAYA YOU TARDS?
 
2012-05-14 05:34:02 PM  
Before we drop this, I need a question answered.

Here in Alabama, his supporters were still standing on high profile corners, waving signs and carrying on.. two full months after our primary, and any of our neighboring states primaries.

Why?
 
2012-05-14 05:34:42 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: DreamWeaver: Yep hes wrong about this. Not lookin for the perfect president, just the best available. So Im not sure it matters, since Paul has made it clear that he doesnt support using ones religion to legislate. He, for instance, doesnt give two shiats whether you use birth control.

He does however give many shiats whether you get an abortion or marry a same sex spouse. He cares so much about those issues that he has introduced a bill limiting the access to the Federal Courts and limiting the applicability of the equal protection clause on those issues.


read his book! These were "dares" -- the constiution allows congress to strip the right of the supreme court to hear classes of cases. So Paul called the religious right oht. Here ya go. Strip it from the courts and shut up about it. Response: crickets. No politicians stepped up.

And Pauls point was proven: Repub Politicians use abortion issue as a tool to get reelected, and are happy to do so. But make them take a stand on it and they wont.
 
2012-05-14 05:34:46 PM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Hunter_S_Thompson: DreamWeaver: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

why people support endless wars, the tsa, patriot act, ndaa, sopa, drug wars, erasure of the 4th amendment, etc etc is a mystery to me.

Because it's not a talking point on MSNBC or CNN. People who are so desperate for acceptance from their peers and have to feel better than everyone else (read: most of FARK) can't go against what their years of indoctrination have told them is important. I remember having Anderson (CIA) Cooper shoved down my throat in middle school through a 12-minute brainwashing session every morning. That's why people don't get it, their need to be "smarter and trendier" has been packaged and sold to them since they could begin thinking critically.

Same thing on the right, if FOX isn't covering it, then it just isn't important. Because MSNBC, FOX, and CNN are the only people who know what's really going on, and the rest of us are wild-eyed Alex Jones level kooks.

Remember, kids: here on FARK if you don't like endless wars, TSA, PATRIOT, drug wars, erasure of all civil rights, then you are a wild-eyed racist homophobe and need re-education. And need to buy some carbon credits, because you don't already have enough white guilt.

Exactly....

Only you forgot "Justice For Trayvon".....where its OK for a family to cry Racism....then make money off their dead kid...enough to take trips to London, etc...


Looks like a non-racist racist circlejerk up in here.
 
2012-05-14 05:35:16 PM  

DreamWeaver: name calling. cute.




DreamWeaver: "lose" is the opposite of "gain" you halfwit.


This is always fun.
 
2012-05-14 05:36:19 PM  

DreamWeaver: Not lookin for the perfect president, just the best available. So Im not sure it matters, since Paul has made it clear that he doesnt support using ones religion to legislate. He, for instance, doesnt give two shiats whether you use birth control.


Yeah, about that...

From Wikipedia:

In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed from the jurisdiction of federal courts "any claim based upon the right of privacy, including any such claim related to any issue of sexual practices, orientation, or reproduction" and "any claim based upon equal protection of the laws to the extent such claim is based upon the right to marry without regard to sex or sexual orientation." If made law, these provisions would remove sexual practices, and particularly same-sex unions, from federal jurisdiction.

H.R. 4379 (109th): We the People Act

Here's the problem: the Supreme Court ruled in Roe v Wade that abortion fell under the Right to Privacy. Griswold v Connecticut affirmed that birth control is covered by the Right to Privacy as well.

But let's just ignore the fact that his proposed law would allow our right to use birth control to be taken away with no legal recourse. What is RON PAUL's view of the "Right to Privacy?"

"Consider the Lawrence case decided by the Supreme Court in June. The Court determined that Texas had no right to establish its own standards for private sexual conduct, because gay sodomy is somehow protected under the 14th amendment "right to privacy". Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be, there clearly is no right to privacy nor sodomy found anywhere in the Constitution. There are, however, states' rights - rights plainly affirmed in the Ninth and Tenth amendments. Under those amendments, the State of Texas has the right to decide for itself how to regulate social matters like sex, using its own local standards."
-Ron Paul


The worst part of that quote is that he referred to the Ninth Amendment, which does NOT refer to states' rights at all:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

So, he says the "right to privacy" isn't in the Constitution, then refers to an amendment that clearly states that it doesn't farking matter if a right is specifically enumerated or not as if it refers to states' rights, which it doesn't.

But he thinks the Constitution refers to God as well. I don't know where in the hell he got his pocket copy of the document that he carries around, but it's not very accurate.

Ron Paul Onion article with the support of actual people.
 
2012-05-14 05:36:29 PM  

regindyn: DreamWeaver: Forgot_my_password_again: why this guy is so popular is a mystery to me.

why people support endless wars, the tsa, patriot act, ndaa, sopa, drug wars, erasure of the 4th amendment, etc etc is a mystery to me.

BSARSVRP?


I dont know what that means :/ Im not hip to internet memes
 
2012-05-14 05:37:52 PM  
Hunter_S_Thompson:

Oh, just go wrap your lips around the barrel of a shotgun and be done with it...wait a minute...
 
2012-05-14 05:38:00 PM  

Hunter_S_Thompson: Remember, kids: here on FARK if you don't like endless wars, TSA, PATRIOT, drug wars, erasure of all civil rights, then you are a wild-eyed racist homophobe and need re-education.


Go on...
 
2012-05-14 05:38:03 PM  

havocmike: Before we drop this, I need a question answered.

Here in Alabama, his supporters were still standing on high profile corners, waving signs and carrying on.. two full months after our primary, and any of our neighboring states primaries.

Why?


The only legitimate response to this is to ask why werent you doing the same for your guy? Too busy to find an hour to support democracy I guess?
 
2012-05-14 05:39:17 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: DreamWeaver: Yep hes wrong about this. Not lookin for the perfect president, just the best available. So Im not sure it matters, since Paul has made it clear that he doesnt support using ones religion to legislate. He, for instance, doesnt give two shiats whether you use birth control.

He does however give many shiats whether you get an abortion or marry a same sex spouse. He cares so much about those issues that he has introduced a bill limiting the access to the Federal Courts and limiting the applicability of the equal protection clause on those issues.


He just a racist, gold bug with his own definition of LIBERTY!
 
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