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(Salon)   Newsweek: Obama is our first gay president. Salon: Not so fast there   (salon.com) divider line 31
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2012-05-14 06:17:17 PM  
6 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: I find it fascinating that you libs are making this into such a big deal.


It is a huge deal to me... one candidate wants a second class citizenship for me where I get to pay more taxes, have fewer rights, not get to visit the people I care about in the hospital, and lose my house if my partner dies... the other views me as an equal.

The only reason you don't think it is a big deal is because you already have all those nifty rights if you decide to use them.
2012-05-14 06:12:36 PM  
2 votes:
Time magazine:

We put a 3-year old sucking his mom's tit on the front page. Let's see you out sensationalize that!

Newsweek: challenge accepted.
2012-05-14 06:00:05 PM  
2 votes:
I find it fascinating that you libs are making this into such a big deal.
2012-05-14 04:26:29 PM  
2 votes:
Well yeah, James Buchanan was the only bachelor during his entire time he was president (and had a niece do all the First Lady duties).

I mean even as a kid who didn't know what that might have meant I realized there was likely something different about Buchanan.
2012-05-14 03:39:11 PM  
2 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: You know, that could have been a great article, except it went on a tangent about beards!


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2012-05-14 03:19:39 PM  
2 votes:
Just wanting equal rights for gays makes you gay now? Guess I now have to break up with my girlfriend, learn how to dress, hit the gym and get rid of my gag reflex. That really sucks.
2012-05-14 03:14:32 PM  
2 votes:
The love of his life was an Alabama senator *teehee*
2012-05-15 06:56:38 PM  
1 votes:

IamAwake: Err...so, white men were more racist during that period, than they were when they felt it ok to OWN another human based on skin color?


It is a common observation for the US as a whole. One reason is that under slavery, there was a large and robust abolitionist movement which championed the rights of black people and sought to improve their status. That pretty much disappeared after empancipation, and all regions of the country regressed in their racial attitudes.
2012-05-15 01:17:54 PM  
1 votes:
TheMysteriousStranger: "Gays would be better off not not claiming the person who was arguably the worst president in history."

Uh yeah, I sure hope you're talking about Buchanon. Otherwise, that would be the man who ended the bullshiat war in Iraq that his predecessor started for no good reason, ordered the killing of Osama Bin Laden, is winding down the war in Afghanistan, prevented the worst recession in modern history from turning into another Great Depression, saved General Motors, passed comprehensive health care reform that makes it illegal for insurance companies to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions, AND has done more to advance gay rights than any other president in history. This, in the face of totally uncompromising and unyielding Republican opposition in Congress, is quite a list of accomplishments for Obama's first term.

And don't kid yourselves, he will be re-elected. Right now the polls show Romney in a dead heat (or slight lead within the margin of error) with Obama because of the general anti-incumbent mood of the country. Geez, asking anyone if he supports a current office-holder is like asking if he'd like a case of bubonic plague. But given the choice of Obama or Romney for president, it's not even close. I honestly feel badly for some Republicans like my brother Joe. He's a lot more conservative than me. He's not crazy about Obama (and the truth is that I am disappointed in him, too). But he is so disgusted by the childish, partisan crap that the Republicans in Congress are doing that he's decided not to vote for anyone in the GOP until the party grows up and has adult leadership again.

I mean, things are so ridiculous these days that the Republicans will change their minds in a heartbeat and vote against something just because Obama supports it. Case in point: The budget deficit reduction commission. Orginally a Republican idea, as soon as the president embraced it, the clowns in the House decided not to approve it after all. Anyone who describes compromise as "Democrats agreeing with everything Republicans want" is obviously not a serious person. Just as the same would be true if the parties were reversed.

\\straight but supports gay rights as human rights ...
2012-05-14 11:27:56 PM  
1 votes:

swangoatman: firefly212: It is a huge deal to me... one candidate wants a second class citizenship for me where I get to pay more taxes, have fewer rights, not get to visit the people I care about in the hospital, and lose my house if my partner dies... the other views me as an equal

dissect: nothing makes you a second class citizen. You have all the same rights as any other citizen. YOU so not have a special right to change what is a recognized institution of a formal agreement to create what is arguably the very core of a civilized society-the family.
Taxes: You are simply wrong. The "marriage tax is a political toy on many issues.
On partner rights:Nothing prevent you and another citizen from entering a power of attorney,healthcare proxy,joint ownership of property.
Those who wish to destroy the institution of one man one woman marriage by opening it up to "options" are opening it up to polygamy,incest,bestiality,bigamy.
Live your ALTERNATIVE lifestyle in accord with how society works and YOU and your Partner will want for nothing and have all the respect as any other citizen.



Nope. I'm not even gay but I certainly won't sit by as the basic human and civil rights of another are violated by bigots and their history of bigotry. This is a fight for what's right, what's simple human decency.

Are you ready to fight for what's wrong as hard as we're willing to fight for what's right?
2012-05-14 11:18:49 PM  
1 votes:
The problem is that the religious people have become more extreme in the last several decades. They have distorted our culture in the process.

We should humiliate the religious extremists and make them feel ashamed to show their faces or moronic opinions in public. Religion should be for the compassionate and the tolerant. The only thing people of religion should speak out against is war and violence until they have been solved, and then we can deal with greed and injustice.
2012-05-14 11:02:06 PM  
1 votes:
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/stolen from another fark thread
2012-05-14 10:38:22 PM  
1 votes:
what is up with this "Obama is divisive" crap?

Republicans: "Obama is a sekrit Kenyan soshulist Muslin!"
Democrats: "No he's not."
Republicans: "OMG he's divisive! See how he's dividing us!"
2012-05-14 10:21:14 PM  
1 votes:
Wow. I clicked on a link about gay Presidents and read an entire article about f*cking beards.
2012-05-14 09:54:27 PM  
1 votes:

Geotpf: If this quote (from a letter Buchanan wrote to his lover after he was appointed ambassador to France)...

I am now "solitary and alone," having no companion in the house with me. I have gone a wooing to several gentlemen, but have not succeeded with any one of them. I feel that it is not good for man to be alone; and should not be astonished to find myself married to some old maid who can nurse me when I am sick, provide good dinners for me when I am well, and not expect from me any very ardent or romantic affection.

...is accurate, um, how can there be any question about the matter?



After a cursory look around, I don't see mention of the letter in several more serious sources, just mention of speculation about his sexuality. It doesn't read as something that would actually be put to paper at the time, no matter how much the Salon author wants to believe in a golden age of homosexuality-tolerance in the 19th Century.


/author's persecution complex about facial hair is bizarre
//there are always various norms of "proper" styling that shift with time
2012-05-14 09:41:26 PM  
1 votes:
I'm officially tired of the words liberal and conservative, please.

These mean nothing, really. You know it, and I know it.

Let's remake our language, friends, for our old language means nothing anymore...

We must remake our world.

Education first, then language.

;)
2012-05-14 07:08:15 PM  
1 votes:
-The comments are painful to read. How can be people be so obtuse? No wonder TV and movies are so dumbed-down and shallow. Abstract/conceptual thinking is beyond them...:-(
2012-05-14 06:54:50 PM  
1 votes:

elev8meL8r: The Gay Agenda

7:45 a.m. Alarm rings

8:00 a.m.-8:10 a.m. Take shower

8:15 a.m.-8:30 a.m. Dress and put items into briefcase

8:35 a.m. Leave house

8:45 a.m. Starbucks

9:00 a.m. Arrive at job

12:00 p.m. Lunch with a co-worker. Perhaps Chili's?

12:45 p.m. Return to job

1:30 p.m.-2:30 p.m. Meeting

5:00 p.m. Leave work

5:30 p.m.-6:30 p.m. Work out in gym

7:00 p.m. Return home

7:20 p.m. Prepare and eat dinner

8:00 p.m. Watch Law & Order on TNT

11:00 p.m. Go to sleep


Get thee behind me, Satan!
2012-05-14 06:52:09 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Old enough to know better: So by Newsweek logic, 47% of americans are gay now?

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Wow, the freepers are gonna loose the farking minds.

The homosexual agenda is working! To the bunkers!


The Gay Agenda

7:45 a.m. Alarm rings

8:00 a.m.-8:10 a.m. Take shower

8:15 a.m.-8:30 a.m. Dress and put items into briefcase

8:35 a.m. Leave house

8:45 a.m. Starbucks

9:00 a.m. Arrive at job

12:00 p.m. Lunch with a co-worker. Perhaps Chili's?

12:45 p.m. Return to job

1:30 p.m.-2:30 p.m. Meeting

5:00 p.m. Leave work

5:30 p.m.-6:30 p.m. Work out in gym

7:00 p.m. Return home

7:20 p.m. Prepare and eat dinner

8:00 p.m. Watch Law & Order on TNT

11:00 p.m. Go to sleep
2012-05-14 06:40:49 PM  
1 votes:

alwaysjaded: Just wanting equal rights for gays makes you gay now? Guess I now have to break up with my girlfriend, learn how to dress, hit the gym and get rid of my gag reflex. That really sucks.


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2012-05-14 06:40:15 PM  
1 votes:
So... Clinton was the first black president, and Obama's the first gay president. Got it.
2012-05-14 06:35:54 PM  
1 votes:
I think a lot of the Log Cabin Republicans who insist Lincoln was gay are in denial because they don't want to be associated with the utter failure that was the Buchanan presidency. It's also why they probably don't like people saying Obama is gay. Being associated with two disasters of that magnitude is a heavy burden to carry.
2012-05-14 06:26:07 PM  
1 votes:

Captain Wingo: Guess who didn't even read the quotes from the aaaaaaarticle and looks like a dummmmbshiiiiiiiiiiiiiat


Everyone in this thread?

Meanwhile in TFA, the author is misapplying the term "ethnocentrism" to a cultural phenomenon lacking any ethnic dimension.
2012-05-14 06:13:04 PM  
1 votes:
In Victorian times, it was not terribly uncommon for a man to have a special man-friend... there were some other views as well, such as it was generally frowned upon to be a passive giver of homosexual acts, but not so much the receiver. None of them probably viewed themselves as what we think of as 'gay'.

Today's African-American "down-low" culture is similar in many ways as men who have sex with men for recreation. But, they don't identify as 'gay' either.
2012-05-14 06:08:04 PM  
1 votes:

Paris1127: IMO, we'll never really know about whether Buchanan was gay, unless a Victorian Larry Flynt manages to dig up scandalous photos... The same can be said for the similar allegations about Lincoln...


there seems to be fairly substantial evidence about Buchanan, but IIRC, the Lincoln theories seemed to be rather reaching (i.e. "Mary Todd was homely, therefore loved Abe the cock.")
2012-05-14 06:06:50 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: I find it fascinating that you libs are making this into such a big deal.


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2012-05-14 06:05:52 PM  
1 votes:
wait'll the Van Buren Boys hear about this.
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2012-05-14 06:02:58 PM  
1 votes:
More important than his sexual proclivities is the fact that Buchanan was the single worst President this country ever had. You can say what you like about Nixon's lies, Reagan's senility, Bush's alleged war crimes, or Clinton's sexcapades...none of them will ever equal Buchanan's regarding the impending split of the nation as "happily, a matter of little practical importance."

His complete indifference to politics and to holding the nation together led directly to the Civil War, and everything we've enjoyed since.
2012-05-14 03:38:35 PM  
1 votes:

gameshowhost: The love of his life was an Alabama senator *teehee*


That made me snicker too.
2012-05-14 03:12:56 PM  
1 votes:
www.newsrealblog.com
2012-05-14 03:06:20 PM  
1 votes:
The sad thing?

The beard thing in the article is actually more interesting than Buchanan...
 
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