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(WSBTV)   The highway in Atlanta that opened up the emergency lane to traffic today? Yeah, that went well. "Just one more lane for people to drive stupid in." "It increased the commute by 25 minutes." Bonus: Giant arrested   (wsbtv.com) divider line 125
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2012-05-14 01:44:57 PM
Holy shiat, is that a dumb idea. Where does a car that breaks down go?
 
2012-05-14 01:45:53 PM
You can build all the 36 lane wide highways you want, but invariably, all 36 will be occupied simultaneously in parallel by people texting, putting on makeup, cooking Bananas Foster on a portable grill on the dash, or whatever.

Proper lane enforcement (stay right unless passing, yield lane to faster cars) a la Autobahn is the ONLY way America will ever get ahead of the game. Police can stop all the speeders on the planet and make a shiat-ton of money, but the REAL issue is PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT OF THE FARKING FAST LANE. If you want to drive 50 and give yourself a pedicure, fine, just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.
 
2012-05-14 01:49:20 PM
markie_farkie: Proper lane enforcement (stay right unless passing, yield lane to faster cars) a la Autobahn is the ONLY way America will ever get ahead of the game. Police can stop all the speeders on the planet and make a shiat-ton of money, but the REAL issue is PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT OF THE FARKING FAST LANE. If you want to drive 50 and give yourself a pedicure, fine, just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.

So... much... THIS!

American drivers are farking morons.
 
2012-05-14 01:49:25 PM
jake_lex: Where does a car that breaks down go?

Simple.. They installed one of these every couple miles.. A claw-copter snags your busted-ass vehicle, and drops it in!

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2012-05-14 02:04:19 PM
Chaos Theory and Hydrodynamics are in Chopper One hovering over 400, laughing and making commentary.

/the latter is a decent model for understanding traffic flow
 
2012-05-14 02:06:57 PM
Diogenes: Chaos Theory and Hydrodynamics are in Chopper One hovering over 400, laughing and making commentary.

/the latter is a decent model for understanding traffic flow


This is true. Traffic will expand to fit the roads.
 
2012-05-14 02:20:39 PM
markie_farkie: Police can stop all the speeders on the planet and make a shiat-ton of money

I think that's their plan.
 
2012-05-14 02:34:08 PM
GDOT put out barrels around 8:30 a.m. Monday to stop drivers from using a section of the shoulder near the Northridge exit, Channel 2's Amanda Cook reported. GDOT said it will have to make it more clear for drivers that they cannot use that small section of the shoulder

Anyone know what happens when you funnel 4 lanes of traffic into 3? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?
 
2012-05-14 02:39:19 PM
Please. This is a city with residents that are AGAINST investing in public transport because it might allow undesirables to enter their foreclosure-ridden neighborhoods. Ugh. Atlanta's commuters deserve all the grief they get.
 
2012-05-14 02:47:35 PM
Marcus Aurelius: GDOT put out barrels around 8:30 a.m. Monday to stop drivers from using a section of the shoulder near the Northridge exit, Channel 2's Amanda Cook reported. GDOT said it will have to make it more clear for drivers that they cannot use that small section of the shoulder

Anyone know what happens when you funnel 4 lanes of traffic into 3? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?


I'll see your 4 lanes to 3, and raise you 4 lanes to two with incoming merging traffic from a highway intersection, right before the highway has a steep two mile long incline.

That was my commute for two years (Sommerville to Basking Ridge, NJ on 287). What should have been an 18 minute commute was always inevitably longer than a hour.
 
2012-05-14 02:54:56 PM
coco ebert: Atlanta's commuters deserve all the grief they get.

That, and naming every street Peachtree-something, and having the name change every six blocks. WTF???
 
2012-05-14 02:57:59 PM
I'm convinced Atlanta is the only place in the world where it would be easier to drive through AFTER it has been nuked.
 
2012-05-14 03:09:44 PM
jake_lex: Holy shiat, is that a dumb idea. Where does a car that breaks down go?

They've been doing this in Boston for a long time now. The answer is to put your car in neutral. The guy behind you is only six inches off your bumper, he'll hardly notice that his mileage has halved.
 
2012-05-14 03:36:27 PM
This can't possibly be true because every dumb-ass everywhere tells me that we need to open the HOV lanes to general traffic because it will make the commute shorter. And dumb-asses are always right, according to themselves.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-05-14 03:42:22 PM
Is this part tolled? Has Georgia considered congestion pricing?

The speed limit for the shoulder is 45 mph, instead of 65 mph on the rest of the highway.

The sign shows an advisory speed, not a speed limit.
 
2012-05-14 04:12:06 PM
Boston laughs in your general direction, Atlanta.
 
2012-05-14 04:43:13 PM
coco ebert: Please. This is a city with residents that are AGAINST investing in public transport because it might allow undesirables to enter their foreclosure-ridden neighborhoods. Ugh. Atlanta's commuters deserve all the grief they get.

Pretty much. They ran a train part of the way up 400 (past 285), but about 10 miles too short to do any good.
 
2012-05-14 04:43:31 PM
markie_farkie: You can build all the 36 lane wide highways you want, but invariably, all 36 will be occupied simultaneously in parallel by people texting, putting on makeup, cooking Bananas Foster on a portable grill on the dash, or whatever.

Proper lane enforcement (stay right unless passing, yield lane to faster cars) a la Autobahn is the ONLY way America will ever get ahead of the game. Police can stop all the speeders on the planet and make a shiat-ton of money, but the REAL issue is PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT OF THE FARKING FAST LANE. If you want to drive 50 and give yourself a pedicure, fine, just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.


But but but people are special and how dare you try to pass me. That is an insult to my manhood!!!!
 
2012-05-14 04:44:07 PM
Just another one of Nathan Deal's big ideas. One would think they'd learned their lesson with the pay as you go toll lanes on 85 heading north. As a friend told me not too long ago: Deal figures that if he throws enough shiat at the wall something will eventually stick.
 
2012-05-14 04:45:17 PM
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Diogenes: Chaos Theory and Hydrodynamics are in Chopper One hovering over 400, laughing and making commentary.

/the latter is a decent model for understanding traffic flow

This is true. Traffic will expand to fit the roads.


Not only that, but cars with accelerate / decelerate faster as spaces increase, and cause more accidents, which will cause more traffic.

You want to decrease traffic in and around cities, start charging congestion taxes and sending the money to public transport. Also, lane enforcement is key as said above.
 
2012-05-14 04:45:25 PM
markie_farkie: You can build all the 36 lane wide highways you want, but invariably, all 36 will be occupied simultaneously in parallel by people texting, putting on makeup, cooking Bananas Foster on a portable grill on the dash, or whatever.

Proper lane enforcement (stay right unless passing, yield lane to faster cars) a la Autobahn is the ONLY way America will ever get ahead of the game. Police can stop all the speeders on the planet and make a shiat-ton of money, but the REAL issue is PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT OF THE FARKING FAST LANE. If you want to drive 50 and give yourself a pedicure, fine, just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.


Here's my one driving rule: when on a multi lane road, look out the passenger window. If you see cars passing you in that lane, move over. Repeat as necessary.
 
2012-05-14 04:45:28 PM
markie_farkie: You can build all the 36 lane wide highways you want, but invariably, all 36 will be occupied simultaneously in parallel by people texting, putting on makeup, cooking Bananas Foster on a portable grill on the dash, or whatever.

Proper lane enforcement (stay right unless passing, yield lane to faster cars) a la Autobahn is the ONLY way America will ever get ahead of the game. Police can stop all the speeders on the planet and make a shiat-ton of money, but the REAL issue is PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT OF THE FARKING FAST LANE. If you want to drive 50 and give yourself a pedicure, fine, just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.


What about the Einstein Andretti's who will be in the left most of the 36 lanes until the last 40 feet of the right lane exit he needs while brushing his teeth and checking in on 4square?
 
2012-05-14 04:45:42 PM
GDOT put out barrels around 8:30 a.m. Monday to stop drivers from using a section of the shoulder near the Northridge exit, Channel 2's Amanda Cook reported. GDOT said it will have to make it more clear for drivers that they cannot use that small section of the shoulder.

So wait, you open the highway up an extra lane, and then at one point, merge it back down a lane, only to open it back up after that?

I think I figured out why you have traffic.
 
2012-05-14 04:45:55 PM
I guess the 38 lanes they have now is not a giant enough clusterfark.
 
2012-05-14 04:46:48 PM
OtherLittleGuy: Boston laughs in your general direction, Atlanta.

Living in Boston and having driven in Hotlanta, I'll tell you Boston ain't got shiat on the mess down there.

Our drivers are a little more proactive than reactionary too, which makes things run smoother IMO.
 
2012-05-14 04:46:49 PM
Diogenes: Marcus Aurelius: GDOT put out barrels around 8:30 a.m. Monday to stop drivers from using a section of the shoulder near the Northridge exit, Channel 2's Amanda Cook reported. GDOT said it will have to make it more clear for drivers that they cannot use that small section of the shoulder

Anyone know what happens when you funnel 4 lanes of traffic into 3? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?

I'll see your 4 lanes to 3, and raise you 4 lanes to two with incoming merging traffic from a highway intersection, right before the highway has a steep two mile long incline.



Ha! That's nothing. I'll raise that with six lanes into two simultaneously going under a major civic structure and at the same time being forced to merge with traffic from another major interstate.

If you're coming the other direction, you get six lanes, but only one (1) ONE of them is actually a through lane. The other five force you to exit at some point before you get through the city.

I-5 will make you want to put highway planners in concentration camps.
 
2012-05-14 04:47:32 PM
Vodka Zombie: markie_farkie: Proper lane enforcement (stay right unless passing, yield lane to faster cars) a la Autobahn is the ONLY way America will ever get ahead of the game. Police can stop all the speeders on the planet and make a shiat-ton of money, but the REAL issue is PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT OF THE FARKING FAST LANE. If you want to drive 50 and give yourself a pedicure, fine, just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.

So... much... THIS!

American drivers are farking morons.


Rural-like typing detected.

Going 50 in any lane, pedicure or no, would be a godsend in most cities during rush hour.
 
2012-05-14 04:49:24 PM
i.imgur.com

/hurr durr it doesn't go anywhere!
/except the airport, downtown, midtown, buckhead, L5P, inman park, decatur, and the only burbs worth a shiat.
 
2012-05-14 04:49:37 PM
This is all worthless deck chair re-arranging. The state says there is no money to make GA-400 in to 5-6 lanes. The counties are scared to death at the thought of asking the rich areas to foot the bill.

Therefore, this is what we get.

For a toll road that has had a toll 5 years longer than originally planned....it's amazing that no work can get done.

All that being said, I'm sitting on 85 north as we speak....so I can only chuckle.
 
2012-05-14 04:50:16 PM
Rent Party: Diogenes: Marcus Aurelius: GDOT put out barrels around 8:30 a.m. Monday to stop drivers from using a section of the shoulder near the Northridge exit, Channel 2's Amanda Cook reported. GDOT said it will have to make it more clear for drivers that they cannot use that small section of the shoulder

Anyone know what happens when you funnel 4 lanes of traffic into 3? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?

I'll see your 4 lanes to 3, and raise you 4 lanes to two with incoming merging traffic from a highway intersection, right before the highway has a steep two mile long incline.



Ha! That's nothing. I'll raise that with six lanes into two simultaneously going under a major civic structure and at the same time being forced to merge with traffic from another major interstate.

If you're coming the other direction, you get six lanes, but only one (1) ONE of them is actually a through lane. The other five force you to exit at some point before you get through the city.

I-5 will make you want to put highway planners in concentration camps.


Which section of I-5 is this? I don't doubt what you're saying, I'm just curious. I have at some point in my adult life traveled over every inch of I-5 (as a passenger, not a driver) except the bit north of Seattle.
 
2012-05-14 04:51:15 PM
KingKauff: Just another one of Nathan Deal's big ideas. One would think they'd learned their lesson with the pay as you go toll lanes on 85 heading north. As a friend told me not too long ago: Deal figures that if he throws enough shiat at the wall something will eventually stick.

These are the stupidest goddamn things known to man.

They are mostly empty and penalize carpooling.
 
2012-05-14 04:52:34 PM
I also wanted to add that my daily commute home includes two left-hand exits on the way home, and one on the way to work.

So screw you and your passing-lane-is-sacred BS. I've gotta be here, and you've gotta wait.
 
2012-05-14 04:53:22 PM
Lachwen: Rent Party: Diogenes: Marcus Aurelius: GDOT put out barrels around 8:30 a.m. Monday to stop drivers from using a section of the shoulder near the Northridge exit, Channel 2's Amanda Cook reported. GDOT said it will have to make it more clear for drivers that they cannot use that small section of the shoulder

Anyone know what happens when you funnel 4 lanes of traffic into 3? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?

I'll see your 4 lanes to 3, and raise you 4 lanes to two with incoming merging traffic from a highway intersection, right before the highway has a steep two mile long incline.



Ha! That's nothing. I'll raise that with six lanes into two simultaneously going under a major civic structure and at the same time being forced to merge with traffic from another major interstate.

If you're coming the other direction, you get six lanes, but only one (1) ONE of them is actually a through lane. The other five force you to exit at some point before you get through the city.

I-5 will make you want to put highway planners in concentration camps.

Which section of I-5 is this? I don't doubt what you're saying, I'm just curious. I have at some point in my adult life traveled over every inch of I-5 (as a passenger, not a driver) except the bit north of Seattle.


Speaking of the I-5 the worst traffic I have ever encountered is along the 5 in LA. But that is nothing compared to the 405 during rush hour

Honestly, idk how people live in that city.
 
2012-05-14 04:53:24 PM
bulldg4life: This is all worthless deck chair re-arranging. The state says there is no money to make GA-400 in to 5-6 lanes. The counties are scared to death at the thought of asking the rich areas to foot the bill.

Therefore, this is what we get.

For a toll road that has had a toll 5 years longer than originally planned....it's amazing that no work can get done.

All that being said, I'm sitting on 85 north as we speak....so I can only chuckle.


I bet you voted for Deal.
j/k

I'm not sure if you're familiar with Atlanta Road where it crosses the 'Hooch. It's the border for Cobb/Fulton Counties. There's a nice bridge that crosses the river. It's four lanes on each side of the river. However, because Fulton and Cobb got into a decade long dick waving contest, the bridge was only two lanes. Talk about a farking nightmare!
 
2012-05-14 04:54:12 PM
bulldg4life: KingKauff: Just another one of Nathan Deal's big ideas. One would think they'd learned their lesson with the pay as you go toll lanes on 85 heading north. As a friend told me not too long ago: Deal figures that if he throws enough shiat at the wall something will eventually stick.

These are the stupidest goddamn things known to man.

They are mostly empty and penalize carpooling.


It's even farked on the weekends.
 
2012-05-14 04:55:09 PM
Also, whose bright idea was it to have 285 merge on to the Georgia Autobahn (a.k.a. 400) in the left lane?
 
2012-05-14 04:55:50 PM
Lachwen: Rent Party: Diogenes: Marcus Aurelius: GDOT put out barrels around 8:30 a.m. Monday to stop drivers from using a section of the shoulder near the Northridge exit, Channel 2's Amanda Cook reported. GDOT said it will have to make it more clear for drivers that they cannot use that small section of the shoulder

Anyone know what happens when you funnel 4 lanes of traffic into 3? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?

I'll see your 4 lanes to 3, and raise you 4 lanes to two with incoming merging traffic from a highway intersection, right before the highway has a steep two mile long incline.



Ha! That's nothing. I'll raise that with six lanes into two simultaneously going under a major civic structure and at the same time being forced to merge with traffic from another major interstate.

If you're coming the other direction, you get six lanes, but only one (1) ONE of them is actually a through lane. The other five force you to exit at some point before you get through the city.

I-5 will make you want to put highway planners in concentration camps.

Which section of I-5 is this? I don't doubt what you're saying, I'm just curious. I have at some point in my adult life traveled over every inch of I-5 (as a passenger, not a driver) except the bit north of Seattle.


You win.

I-5 north into Seattle drops from six to two lanes as it goes under the convention center right when it merges with the collector/distributor from I-90. Which is why it is backed up past Boeing Field most days. I drive that every day, and every day I wonder what farking moron thought this was a good idea.

South bound over the bridge, all lanes either dump you off onto either 520 or eastbound I-90, except for the next to the far left lane, which goes straight under the convention center.
 
2012-05-14 04:57:29 PM
coco ebert: Please. This is a city with residents that are AGAINST investing in public transport because it might allow undesirables to enter their foreclosure-ridden neighborhoods. Ugh. Atlanta's commuters deserve all the grief they get.

THIS
 
2012-05-14 04:58:02 PM
markie_farkie: just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.

Lane changes are extremely disruptive in medium to heavy traffic. It often causes cars already in the lane to have to brake to maintain safe distance between vehicles, which means the cars behind them have to brake, which accumulates and causes traffic jams.

Choose the best lane to get in based on how far you'll be traveling, how fast you're comfortable driving, and how crowded each lane already is.

Then farking stay there for as long as necessary.
 
2012-05-14 04:58:58 PM
poot_rootbeer: markie_farkie: just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.

Lane changes are extremely disruptive in medium to heavy traffic. It often causes cars already in the lane to have to brake to maintain safe distance between vehicles, which means the cars behind them have to brake, which accumulates and causes traffic jams.

Choose the best lane to get in based on how far you'll be traveling, how fast you're comfortable driving, and how crowded each lane already is.

Then farking stay there for as long as necessary.


You get out of here with that crazy talk!
 
2012-05-14 04:59:03 PM
This traffic engineer says: More lanes doesn't equal more capacity. You have to actually get cars off the road. Like a few people have already said, going from 3 lanes to 4 lanes means nothing when at some point down the line you still have to exit. That's the bottleneck. And the solution isn't to add an exit lane...

A combination of cheap reliable bus service, commuter rail, congestion taxing, car pooling incentives, etc. Anything that means less vehicles on the road.

Also they took an emergency lane for this so someone is going to die at some point. You know that's coming.

/steps off soap box
 
2012-05-14 05:02:11 PM
Test is a fail. People were driving on the shoulders anyway last I knew.

"If emergency responders do need to get by, drivers in the left lane will move to the left, drivers in the next lane over will move to the right, parting in the middle to make room for emergency vehicles."


Yeah right. Where do they think these cars will magically pull off too? Last time I got stuck in the I-20 parking lot I watched as an ambulance tried to get by in the "emergency" lane. It took it 15 minutes for the damned thing to pass by me.

Don't even get me started on the demographics of the people who thought they were allowed to drive in the emergency lane.
 
2012-05-14 05:03:00 PM
markie_farkie: You can build all the 36 lane wide highways you want, but invariably, all 36 will be occupied simultaneously...

This apparently happens here in L.A., too: Lanes are added to the freeways in an attempt to ease traffic congestion, but more people just crowd on the road and the situation is no better than before the extra lanes were added. When you add lanes to freeways, it encourages more people to drive that route.
 
dls
2012-05-14 05:03:59 PM
markie_farkie: You can build all the 36 lane wide highways you want, but invariably, all 36 will be occupied simultaneously in parallel by people texting, putting on makeup, cooking Bananas Foster on a portable grill on the dash, or whatever.

Hopefully I'm not the only person looking forward to trying markie_farkie's Bananas Foster recipe.
 
2012-05-14 05:04:14 PM
Lachwen: Rent Party: Diogenes: Marcus Aurelius: GDOT put out barrels around 8:30 a.m. Monday to stop drivers from using a section of the shoulder near the Northridge exit, Channel 2's Amanda Cook reported. GDOT said it will have to make it more clear for drivers that they cannot use that small section of the shoulder

Anyone know what happens when you funnel 4 lanes of traffic into 3? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?

I'll see your 4 lanes to 3, and raise you 4 lanes to two with incoming merging traffic from a highway intersection, right before the highway has a steep two mile long incline.



Ha! That's nothing. I'll raise that with six lanes into two simultaneously going under a major civic structure and at the same time being forced to merge with traffic from another major interstate.

If you're coming the other direction, you get six lanes, but only one (1) ONE of them is actually a through lane. The other five force you to exit at some point before you get through the city.

I-5 will make you want to put highway planners in concentration camps.

Which section of I-5 is this? I don't doubt what you're saying, I'm just curious. I have at some point in my adult life traveled over every inch of I-5 (as a passenger, not a driver) except the bit north of Seattle.


Sounds like I-5 through Seattle. Only one true lane that goes through, passes under the Washington State Convention Center and I-90 terminates into it at that point. Pain in the ass to drive through. I've lived here 17 years and I still have trouble remembering which is the one true lane. But I only drive infrequently.
 
2012-05-14 05:04:37 PM
jake_lex: Holy shiat, is that a dumb idea. Where does a car that breaks down go?

If my years of SoCal commuting are any indication, the busted-ass car stays in the lane where it died. Usually the center lane.
 
2012-05-14 05:06:20 PM
markie_farkie: You can build all the 36 lane wide highways you want, but invariably, all 36 will be occupied simultaneously in parallel by people texting, putting on makeup, cooking Bananas Foster on a portable grill on the dash, or whatever.

Proper lane enforcement (stay right unless passing, yield lane to faster cars) a la Autobahn is the ONLY way America will ever get ahead of the game. Police can stop all the speeders on the planet and make a shiat-ton of money, but the REAL issue is PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT OF THE FARKING FAST LANE. If you want to drive 50 and give yourself a pedicure, fine, just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.


THIS THIS AND THIS

Every car I have to pass on the right on 285 and ATL highways because they are taking their sweet time in the far left lane is one of these categories
- Black chick on the phone
- Black guy with the gangster seat lean going
- Soccer mom with both hands on the wheel petrified to be off suburban streets
- Gramps from NY or PA who thinks 60 in the far left lane is fast enough
- Taxi
- Folks from rural GA counties who are terrified of the ATL traffic
- Airport limo
- Painter van with a bazillion ladders on top and the crew drinking beer in the back

Stay to the right and let me get on with my day
 
2012-05-14 05:06:26 PM
Next great idea from GDOT: Make the emergency lane a HOT lane.

Quick, get someone's brother-in-law a contract to build them. It's the only way!
 
2012-05-14 05:08:27 PM
markie_farkie: You can build all the 36 lane wide highways you want, but invariably, all 36 will be occupied simultaneously in parallel by people texting, putting on makeup, cooking Bananas Foster on a portable grill on the dash, or whatever.

Proper lane enforcement (stay right unless passing, yield lane to faster cars) a la Autobahn is the ONLY way America will ever get ahead of the game. Police can stop all the speeders on the planet and make a shiat-ton of money, but the REAL issue is PEOPLE DON'T GET OUT OF THE FARKING FAST LANE. If you want to drive 50 and give yourself a pedicure, fine, just get over to the right and yield to everyone else, instead of forcing your stupidity on everyone else.


Okay as long as you enforce on the assholes who insisted on ridding ass in the right hand lane of a multiple lane highway. It is like they want to go fast, but are afraid of that second or third lane. Fark you stupid shiat heads gas is over $3-4 a gallon, going over 45 just wastes precious money, if I could I would drive 35 everywhere.
 
2012-05-14 05:09:47 PM
hosalabad: Pretty much. They ran a train part of the way up 400 (past 285), but about 10 miles too short to do any good.

The Windward station (far enough to do good) is planned to open no earlier than 2025.
 
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