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(BBC)   My name is Scotland. And I'm an alcoholic   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 52
    More: Amusing, Scottish Government, harm reduction, minority government, University of Sheffield, SNP, Scotland, alcohol abuses, Glasgow Royal Infirmary  
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2012-05-14 11:19:07 AM  
chicagoist.com

Whew, it's only for drinking *in* Scotland. Price of Scottish ales outside of Scotland will not go up.

Carry on.
 
2012-05-14 11:21:57 AM  
HI SCOTLAND
 
2012-05-14 11:49:20 AM  
That's because it's shiatE being Scottish!
 
2012-05-14 11:57:53 AM  
It's only a matter of time before England gets one of those awkward phone calls that start "Hey England, it's Scotland. I was thinking about what I did after the world cup... I'm sorry. and ... well... I'd like to make it right."
 
2012-05-14 12:55:08 PM  
I'll drink to that!
 
2012-05-14 02:20:26 PM  
The last time the local liquor corporation had their annual price hike, I jokingly complained to the cashier. Hey response? "But you'll keep drinking no matter how much we raise our prices, now won't you!"

/touché
 
2012-05-14 02:45:18 PM  
Amusing? Is the Obvious Tag in jail or just recovering from being "glassed" on Saturday night?
 
2012-05-14 02:46:03 PM  
If you were a ginger nation you'd drink too!
 
2012-05-14 02:46:07 PM  
www.smartraveller.gov.au

Biatch please!
 
2012-05-14 02:48:37 PM  
If it's not Scottish, it's CRAP!
 
2012-05-14 02:49:51 PM  
www.findonvillage.com
The problem with Scotland is that it's full of Scots.
 
2012-05-14 02:50:06 PM  
I think this can be applied to most of northern Europe???
 
2012-05-14 02:50:42 PM  

blatz514: If it's not Scottish, it's CRAP!


content6.flixster.com

You can have both: scottish, and crap too!
 
2012-05-14 02:53:25 PM  
Great Britain - putting the `functional' into alcoholism.
 
2012-05-14 02:54:57 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [www.findonvillage.com image 400x263]
The problem with Scotland is that it's full of Scots.


Look at it the way I look at Texas. The one good thing about Texas is that so many Texans live there; making it easier to avoid them.

Plus, what the hell language were they speaking in the lower of the two videos???
 
2012-05-14 02:55:23 PM  
I've never been more proud to be the descendant of drunken Scotsmen.
 
2012-05-14 02:56:32 PM  

monoski: I think this can be applied to most of northern Europe???


And yet they're the ones supporting the rest of the continent. I always knew beer was awesome, just didn't realize how awesome.
 
2012-05-14 02:56:56 PM  
FTFA: "Too many Scots are drinking themselves to death."

Is that even possible? I don't mean the "drink yourself to death part." I mean is it possible that there are too many dead Scots?
 
2012-05-14 02:57:31 PM  
Scotland, where the national motto is "I'll cut you, man!"

/pretty close at least
//when you have an entire class of booze named after you, you might be an alcoholic.
 
2012-05-14 03:02:14 PM  
So what does 50p per unit translate to in real currency and volumes. I am not sure if I should be outraged or not.

- How much is 50p in US dollars?

- How much is a unit is comparison to a 12 oz bottle of beer?

Trying to get perspective.
 
2012-05-14 03:02:25 PM  
ts2.mm.bing.net

Snicker
 
2012-05-14 03:07:42 PM  
I love that in the United Kingdom you pay for beer with p. Kind of backwards, but still pretty cool.
 
2012-05-14 03:08:44 PM  

JohnCarter: So what does 50p per unit translate to in real currency and volumes. I am not sure if I should be outraged or not.

- How much is 50p in US dollars?

- How much is a unit is comparison to a 12 oz bottle of beer?

Trying to get perspective.


100 p or "pence" in a pound; so they're saying a minimum price of around a dollar per drink... retail. Public healthcare: public problem, public solution.
 
2012-05-14 03:13:42 PM  
50p is about $0.80. So, the cheapest a beer could be would be $0.80, and a six pack could be no cheaper than $4.80. So, we're talking about really cheap beer/wine/booze.
 
2012-05-14 03:15:16 PM  
I can't tell if this is based on temperance or greed by the state. Hmm.
 
2012-05-14 03:16:21 PM  
I can understand the thought that making something more difficult to afford will drive down the number of people who purchase the product legally. Let's be honest, though; alcoholism isn't just a lower class problem. Besides, I can't be the only one who thinks that if someone REALLY wants a drink that they'll find a way to get one. I don't have an answer to their problem, but this doesn't appear to me to be a solution that will really solve the issue.
 
2012-05-14 03:18:21 PM  
And we only have 2 buck chuck.....(which in Ohio is actually $4)
 
2012-05-14 03:21:54 PM  
Dr. John Holmes has "bigger" things to worry about.

i1255.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-14 03:24:12 PM  

ThreeEdgedSword: I can't tell if this is based on temperance or greed by the state. Hmm.


The minimum price isn't a tax, just an attempt by the state to reduce consumption. Great Britain has a national health service, so the problems associated with binge drinking are on the state's dime. They have a public welfare as well as a financial stake in stemming the volume consumed.

Now of course on the "pro" side of this argument will be all the annoying teetotalers, since they don't have to pay any extra, and can use Chav culture to bolster their argument.
 
2012-05-14 03:25:21 PM  

JohnCarter: So what does 50p per unit translate to in real currency and volumes. I am not sure if I should be outraged or not.

- How much is 50p in US dollars?

- How much is a unit is comparison to a 12 oz bottle of beer?

Trying to get perspective.


It depends on the ABV of the beer. 12 oz bottle of 6% ABV = 2.05 units of alcohol. So that'd be a minimum price of £1 per 12 oz bottle, or $1.60.

So a standard bottle of vodak at 70cl x 37.5% ABV = 26.3 units, should have a minimum price of £13.15 ($21.16).
 
2012-05-14 03:27:31 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [www.findonvillage.com image 400x263]
The problem with Scotland is that it's full of Scots.


FREEEEEEDOM!!!!
 
2012-05-14 03:40:17 PM  
Yeah, keeping the price of heroin/meth high has certainly help to stop people taking it.

Oh, wait. It just means more burglaries/muggings.
 
2012-05-14 03:45:09 PM  

krafty420: The last time the local liquor corporation had their annual price hike, I jokingly complained to the cashier. Hey response? "But you'll keep drinking no matter how much we raise our prices, now won't you!"

/touché


That's when you say, I'll keep drinking, but I'll home brew. It's not like grains and yeast are hard to find.
 
2012-05-14 03:45:12 PM  

factoryconnection: The minimum price isn't a tax, just an attempt by the state to reduce consumption. Great Britain has a national health service, so the problems associated with binge drinking are on the state's dime. They have a public welfare as well as a financial stake in stemming the volume consumed.


The tax on alcohol more than covers the health and crime costs of alcohol.

This law will also be challenged in court as being incompatible with EU law the day after it's introduced, and chances are, the EU commission will rule it as being illegal.
 
2012-05-14 03:56:35 PM  
The Scottish Nationalists hope the measure will reduce the health problems caused by excessive drinking.
Yeah, and there's gonna be bigger ones when my relatives start brewing their own.
Letter writing only, don't bother using the phone - can't understand a word they say, even when they're sober.
 
2012-05-14 04:00:36 PM  

Spiralmonkey: So a standard bottle of vodak at 70cl x 37.5% ABV = 26.3 units, should have a minimum price of £13.15 ($21.16).


I literally just choked on my coffee! Jeez, I thought Boston prices were bad.

/where my Popov people at?
 
2012-05-14 04:14:48 PM  

whither_apophis: when you have an entire class of booze named after you, you might be an alcoholic.


I lol'd

/+1
/single malt or go home
 
2012-05-14 04:25:01 PM  
/Scottish
//Drinking
 
2012-05-14 04:41:30 PM  
What bothers me about this is that the problem they are trying to solve was caused by the increase in cost of booze in pubs. Back in the seventies, no one drank at home. They hiked up the cost of alcohol in pubs/bars over the years, but the stuff in the supermarket was much less regulated. Nowadays, people simply can't afford to drink out much. A pint of Guinness can easily be £4 ($6.44). So people drink at home. That's The Problem. This solution (which, by the way, they've been talking about non-stop for months/years) is both wrong, and entirely predictable. Dropping taxes doesn't seem to be an option anymore. I'd be happy if they lowered tax on alcohol in pubs and applied it to alcohol in supermarkets - redress the balance, give and take.
 
2012-05-14 05:23:54 PM  

Private_Citizen: 50p is about $0.80. So, the cheapest a beer could be would be $0.80, and a six pack could be no cheaper than $4.80. So, we're talking about really cheap beer/wine/booze.


It's 50p per unit, where 1 unit = 10ml of alcohol. The can of lager I'm drinking at the moment contains 1.8 units of alcohol and cost me 65p; in future it will cost me 90p. A stronger beer would cost me more because it contains more alcohol. This won't cut down my consumption, but will make me slightly poorer and the government slightly richer. Fark the SNP.
 
2012-05-14 05:49:47 PM  

ThreeEdgedSword: I can't tell if this is based on temperance or greed by the state. Hmm.


It's Great Britain, so I'm assuming greed. Temperance is an American thing.
 
2012-05-14 06:59:15 PM  
What about us?

t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-05-14 07:55:54 PM  

Mouser: ThreeEdgedSword: I can't tell if this is based on temperance or greed by the state. Hmm.

It's Great Britain, so I'm assuming greed. Temperance is an American thing.


The reason for that is a greedy person would never think of pricing American beer based on alcohol content.
 
2012-05-14 08:23:14 PM  
So regressive policies that mostly punish the poor?
 
2012-05-14 08:35:41 PM  

farkeruk: The tax on alcohol more than covers the health and crime costs of alcohol.

This law will also be challenged in court as being incompatible with EU law the day after it's introduced, and chances are, the EU commission will rule it as being illegal.


I'll take your word for it on the practicalities of it, especially with regards to UK/EU interface. However, adjusting the minimum price, assuming it works to reduce bingeing and the associated health/social effects is a humanitarian goal with a fiscal kicker. Flip side: this is textbook Nanny Statism.

Of course it punishes drinkers that don't have a problem with moderation or hooliganism, and that just sucks.
 
2012-05-14 09:34:11 PM  
A kingdom walks into a bar. It's Scotland and it's destroying it's family.
 
2012-05-14 10:59:05 PM  
Not amused:

i1164.photobucket.com

/Kaber-tossin' mad
 
2012-05-14 11:14:26 PM  
And it took you people 500 years to figure this out?? This fact is taught to you from your first days....and you damn well better hold up your end of it....
 
2012-05-15 12:57:28 AM  
Still trying to drink away the memory of the Housemartins I see.
 
2012-05-15 05:34:38 AM  
FTA "The Scottish government has confirmed that it wants to set a minimum price for alcohol of 50p per unit.

The figure - 5p higher than the one which had been proposed in the previous parliament - comes as a 40p price is planned for England and Wales."

so at 40p per unit then that works out at £10.52 for a bottle of vodka. Well, that`s ok, I pay more than that already for vodka. I have noticed that if you buy a good product then this law doesn`t change what you pay....

Down with the lower classes and all that! Have to find some way of not letting them have any money!
 
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