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2012-05-14 09:24:52 AM
These dumb motherf*ckers are going give the Democrats an even bigger Senate majority, and they're too damned stupid to understand why
 
2012-05-14 09:30:45 AM

Aarontology: These dumb motherf*ckers are going give the Democrats an even bigger Senate majority, and they're too damned stupid to understand why


i hope they get creamed in indiana. so does dick lugar, i'm guessing.
 
2012-05-14 09:37:17 AM

FlashHarry: Aarontology: These dumb motherf*ckers are going give the Democrats an even bigger Senate majority, and they're too damned stupid to understand why

i hope they get creamed in indiana. so does dick lugar, i'm guessing.


I think Cock Beretta would have no problem creaming them.

/if you know what I mean
 
2012-05-14 09:37:21 AM
These people are so vile and destructive it's almost unbelievable.
 
2012-05-14 09:38:48 AM
but but the tea party is bipartisan and made up of people from both the left and the right
 
2012-05-14 09:39:04 AM

FlashHarry: i hope they get creamed in indiana. so does dick lugar, i'm guessing.


In a way, I feel sorry for Lugar. I may have disagreed with him on almost everything, but the guy knew the importance of securing old Soviet era nuclear weapons and material and had the clout to help get shiat done.

And then the teabaggers noticed he worked with the Democrats to do so, and thought "Nope. Ideological purity is more important than preventing the proliferation of thermonuclear weapons "
 
2012-05-14 09:41:13 AM
If I had two co-workers, and one of them declared that his only priority was to take down the other, I'm thinking it would be time to send him down to HR to cover the formalities while I find his replacement.

Screaming louder isn't the solution, it's the problem.
 
2012-05-14 09:43:24 AM
Right after the Turtle Club threw him out? It's so sad.
 
2012-05-14 09:43:30 AM
When you dance with the devil, you don't get to pick the tune.
 
2012-05-14 09:49:05 AM
And by too compromising, they must mean he was actually willing to sit in the same chamber as the Democrats. Because I'm pretty sure they would have a difficult time identifying any legislation he was willing to work with the Democrats on.
 
2012-05-14 09:56:59 AM

MisterTweak: If I had two co-workers, and one of them declared that his only priority was to take down the other, I'm thinking it would be time to send him down to HR to cover the formalities while I find his replacement.

Screaming louder isn't the solution, it's the problem.


The the only problem here is that your unruly coworker isn't appointed by you and you have no power to hire/fire in his position.
 
2012-05-14 09:57:35 AM

Aarontology: These dumb motherf*ckers are going give the Democrats an even bigger Senate majority, and they're too damned stupid to understand why


www.waitingfornextyear.com
 
2012-05-14 09:58:55 AM
Yes. Must move farther to the right. Must be pure.
 
2012-05-14 10:07:06 AM
It looks more and more like our system is going to go the way of most Presidential systems:

In his classic 1990 article, "The Perils of Presidentialism," [PDF], Yale's Juan Linz observed that "in a presidential system, the legislators, especially when they represent cohesive, disciplined parties that offer clear ideological and political alternatives, can also claim democratic legitimacy." In other words, both an elected president and an elected House speaker can plausibly claim--and plausibly feel entitled to claim--that their agenda reflects the true desires of the people and deserves to carry the day.

Thus, both the president and the congress may believe they have a mandate from the public to enact their agenda. This is supposed to lead to a compromise, but the experience of a majority of presidential systems has been for the conflict of priorities to lead to a breakdown of the constitutional order. Linz observes that "the only presidential democracy with a long history of constitutional continuity is the United States." Research from Jose Antonio Chebuib in 1999 notes that parliamentary regimes survive 73 years on average, to just 21 for presidential systems in which at some point, clashes between presidents and legislatures led either to a military coup or else presidential abrogation of congress.
 
2012-05-14 10:12:52 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-14 10:20:13 AM
The purity tests are getting more and more insane and entertaining.

"He voted for a tax hike! I don't care if that tax hike was to replace 100-year-old water infrastructure that was delivering e coli bacteria into people's homes. BURN HIM!"
"He agreed to meet with his Demon-rat counterpart to discuss legislation! BURN HIM!"
"He enjoys Jack Donaghy ironically! BURN HIM!"
"He once commented that 'Ted Nugent isn't the most technically proficient guitarist, and his lyrics are definitely juvenile!' BURN HIM!"

They're well on their way to having thousands of "parties" made up of one person who screams "TRAITOR!" at his mirror.
 
2012-05-14 10:20:44 AM
This reflects an important point about Tea Party Republicanism: It isn't really about ideology; it's about governing tactics.

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2012-05-14 10:45:53 AM
I really farking hope they do. That son of biatch has been in office for far too long. Though at the very least I must say he does at least answer questions sent in to him. The form letter was just baseless lies though.
 
2012-05-14 10:59:41 AM

A Terrible Human: I really farking hope they do. That son of biatch has been in office for far too long. Though at the very least I must say he does at least answer questions sent in to him. The form letter was just baseless lies though.


Unfortunately, DeMint would be worse. That dickbag should be drummed out of Congress, at a minimum. His actions during and after the Honduran golpe were nigh criminal.
 
2012-05-14 11:01:12 AM
""The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president" is not enough for the Tea Party.
 
2012-05-14 11:05:45 AM

Diogenes: Unfortunately, DeMint would be worse. That dickbag should be drummed out of Congress, at a minimum. His actions during and after the Honduran golpe were nigh criminal.


I know that but at the very least it would get McConnell out of office or it could cause a Democratic candidate to win his seat.
 
2012-05-14 11:09:54 AM

JerseyTim: ""The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president" is not enough for the Tea Party.


That's a scary thought.
 
2012-05-14 11:11:18 AM
goo.gl

I have no idea what turtles eat
 
2012-05-14 11:16:09 AM

JerseyTim: ""The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president" is not enough for the Tea Party.


No, it isn't. He failed to call for drone strikes on the Democratic senators.
 
2012-05-14 11:19:06 AM

Jackson Herring: [goo.gl image 370x278]

I have no idea what turtles eat


Strawberries.
 
2012-05-14 11:23:14 AM
j.wigflip.com
 
2012-05-14 11:23:22 AM

Speaker2Animals: JerseyTim: ""The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president" is not enough for the Tea Party.

No, it isn't. He failed to call for drone strikes on the Democratic senators.


He also didn't unilaterally unseat the Senators from states that refused to elect Tea Party types.
 
2012-05-14 11:25:40 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The purity tests are getting more and more insane and entertaining.

"He voted for a tax hike! I don't care if that tax hike was to replace 100-year-old water infrastructure that was delivering e coli bacteria into people's homes. BURN HIM!"
"He agreed to meet with his Demon-rat counterpart to discuss legislation! BURN HIM!"
"He enjoys Jack Donaghy ironically! BURN HIM!"
"He once commented that 'Ted Nugent isn't the most technically proficient guitarist, and his lyrics are definitely juvenile!' BURN HIM!"

They're well on their way to having thousands of "parties" made up of one person who screams "TRAITOR!" at his mirror.


I'm fine with the Tea Party imploding - their one good idea is cutting government spending. But make no mistake, it is a good idea. The problem is where they want to cut government spending, and how they want to do it.

IMO going through cutting tons of programs is not the answer. You phase stuff out over time, you appropriate less and less year by year. And you also have to increase revenues (raise taxes).

- Cut defense - needs to be around 200-250 billion. Get out of Afghanistan. Get out completely from Iraq. Close bases worldwide. Cut defense about 40-50 additional billion per year for 10 years. And implement programs that are designed to move defense jobs into the private sector. (Many Republicans AND Dems hate cutting defense - lots of military bases.)
- Raise income taxes on the very wealthy.
- Cut taxes on small businesses as defined by some specific criteria (revenues, number of employees, ownership, etc. - I'm sure we can develop good data that helps small businesses grow jobs).
- I would actually be in favor of lowering non-payroll corporate taxes to effectively zero and replacing it with higher income taxes - I haven't weighed the pros and cons though.
- Cut subsidies (over 10 year time horizon) to agribusiness, oil.
- Higher gas taxes to phase out
- Tax companies that offshore jobs at higher rates. fark em.
- Tax companies that are found to hire illegal immigrants at higher rates, and institute larger fines.
- Legalize marijuana and tax it. Cut the heart out of the DEA and eat it.
- Continue to fund most regulatory agencies, student loans, technology, NSF. Fund technology and science! (and the arts - creativity is a very misunderstood but equally important part of education)
- Phase out certain types of welfare over time.
- Medicare should arguably pay for itself outside of monthly premiums.
- Raise the retirement age on SS - people should expect to have to work longer anyway.
 
2012-05-14 11:32:46 AM

mrshowrules: Aarontology: These dumb motherf*ckers are going give the Democrats an even bigger Senate majority, and they're too damned stupid to understand why

[www.waitingfornextyear.com image 500x150]


heh heh heh heh...
 
2012-05-14 11:34:22 AM
The circle is complete.
 
2012-05-14 11:36:49 AM
Reading TFA just reminds me how pissed off I am that today's Republicans (and those of the '80s and beyond) are killing the party of my father.

:-|
 
2012-05-14 11:37:16 AM
Right, 'cos the Tea Party and establishment Republicans are so totally different from one another!!!! Why, you can obviously tell they're different because, while you never see them together, one of them wears glasses, and the other doesn't, so they're obviously different!!!
 
2012-05-14 11:40:25 AM
I'm ok with this.
 
2012-05-14 11:43:35 AM

PonceAlyosha: The circle is complete.


"I've been waiting for you, Turtle-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the grassroots organization; now I am the party leader."
 
2012-05-14 11:44:40 AM

bdub77: - Cut defense - needs to be around 200-250 billion. Get out of Afghanistan. Get out completely from Iraq. Close bases worldwide. Cut defense about 40-50 additional billion per year for 10 years. And implement programs that are designed to move defense jobs into the private sector. (Many Republicans AND Dems hate cutting defense - lots of military bases.)
- Raise income taxes on the very wealthy.
- Cut taxes on small businesses as defined by some specific criteria (revenues, number of employees, ownership, etc. - I'm sure we can develop good data that helps small businesses grow jobs).
- I would actually be in favor of lowering non-payroll corporate taxes to effectively zero and replacing it with higher income taxes - I haven't weighed the pros and cons though.
- Cut subsidies (over 10 year time horizon) to agribusiness, oil.
- Higher gas taxes to phase out
- Tax companies that offshore jobs at higher rates. fark em.
- Tax companies that are found to hire illegal immigrants at higher rates, and institute larger fines.
- Legalize marijuana and tax it. Cut the heart out of the DEA and eat it.
- Continue to fund most regulatory agencies, student loans, technology, NSF. Fund technology and science! (and the arts - creativity is a very misunderstood but equally important part of education)
- Phase out certain types of welfare over time.
- Medicare should arguably pay for itself outside of monthly premiums.
- Raise the retirement age on SS - people should expect to have to work longer anyway.



In related news the Tea Party just announced they will be voting bdub77 off of Fark
 
2012-05-14 11:44:56 AM
Teabaggers are smart enough to know they can move an agenda without actually being in control of anything because of a complacent Democratic party and a complacent media.
 
2012-05-14 11:45:21 AM
Ah crap...he'll never come out of his shell now.
 
2012-05-14 11:46:53 AM
MisterTweak

If I had two co-workers, and one of them declared that his only priority was to take down the other, I'm thinking it would be time to send him down to HR to cover the formalities while I find his replacement.

Screaming louder isn't the solution, it's the problem.



Could you tell all of your Democratic friends that?
 
2012-05-14 11:47:37 AM

xanadian: Reading TFA just reminds me how pissed off I am that today's Republicans (and those of the '80s and beyond) are killing the party of my father.

:-|


It's just a political party- there's no reason to be loyal to it if their values and ideas totally change.
 
2012-05-14 11:48:11 AM

YouWinAgainGravity: but but the tea party is bipartisan and made up of people from both the left and the right


fatherhoodetc.files.wordpress.com

/couldn't resist a Blues Brothers reference
 
2012-05-14 11:48:22 AM

EyeballKid: Right, 'cos the Tea Party and establishment Republicans are so totally different from one another!!!! Why, you can obviously tell they're different because, while you never see them together, one of them wears glasses, and the other doesn't, so they're obviously different!!!


They are actually different, if the differences are subtle. For one, the Tea Party didn't exist in 2008. There were certainly some hard right Republicans, but no 'tea party candidates' that were elected to the House. In 2010 the dynamics of the house changed significantly. In addition to a huge number of new members, neither Boehner nor Cantor understood how polarizing most of these guys were. Most of them were against any type of additional spending on anything. These were people who thought it would be OK to let the government default. Many, even the ones in power, don't understand how appropriations work. And because their opinions were so outrageous, the Tea Party was given an especially strong media platform. This is actively undermining the establishment Republicans, but even worse it is undermining actually getting anything done.

Having said that, the Republicans stubborn commitment against higher taxes and their ideological realignment will eventually result in a colossal mess in the House that will only resolve itself when they are voted out and the Democrats win a majority.
 
2012-05-14 11:49:37 AM

sweetmelissa31: It's just a political party- there's no reason to be loyal to it if their values and ideas totally change.


Yeah but R is a pretty rad letter you know. R as in Reagan, Right, Reduced Taxes, etc.
 
2012-05-14 11:50:07 AM

JerseyTim: ""The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president" is not enough for the Tea Party.


Came to say this, leaving pleased that it's been said; repeating because it will never be said enough times:

THE GUY WHO SAID IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT THE REPUBLICANS' ONE AND ONLY GOAL IS TO DEFEAT PRESIDENT OBAMA AT ALL COSTS IS GETTING SACKED FOR NOT BEING CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH
 
2012-05-14 11:52:21 AM
Family Guy hit the nail on the head with the Tea Baggers
 
2012-05-14 11:57:06 AM

bdub77: EyeballKid: Right, 'cos the Tea Party and establishment Republicans are so totally different from one another!!!! Why, you can obviously tell they're different because, while you never see them together, one of them wears glasses, and the other doesn't, so they're obviously different!!!

They are actually different, if the differences are subtle. For one, the Tea Party didn't exist in 2008. There were certainly some hard right Republicans, but no 'tea party candidates' that were elected to the House. In 2010 the dynamics of the house changed significantly. In addition to a huge number of new members, neither Boehner nor Cantor understood how polarizing most of these guys were. Most of them were against any type of additional spending on anything. These were people who thought it would be OK to let the government default. Many, even the ones in power, don't understand how appropriations work. And because their opinions were so outrageous, the Tea Party was given an especially strong media platform. This is actively undermining the establishment Republicans, but even worse it is undermining actually getting anything done.

Having said that, the Republicans stubborn commitment against higher taxes and their ideological realignment will eventually result in a colossal mess in the House that will only resolve itself when they are voted out and the Democrats win a majority.


Republican establishment: "Under Pressure"

Tea Party: "Ice Ice Baby"
 
2012-05-14 12:00:42 PM

EyeballKid: Republican establishment: "Under Pressure"

Tea Party: "Ice Ice Baby"


Republican establishment: Ini Kamoze

Tea Party: Snow
 
2012-05-14 12:01:59 PM
The Tea Party is going to keep going more and more insane and will all be living in bunkers scared of the Liberal sun.
 
2012-05-14 12:02:28 PM

bdub77: EyeballKid: Right, 'cos the Tea Party and establishment Republicans are so totally different from one another!!!! Why, you can obviously tell they're different because, while you never see them together, one of them wears glasses, and the other doesn't, so they're obviously different!!!

They are actually different, if the differences are subtle. For one, the Tea Party didn't exist in 2008. There were certainly some hard right Republicans, but no 'tea party candidates' that were elected to the House. In 2010 the dynamics of the house changed significantly. In addition to a huge number of new members, neither Boehner nor Cantor understood how polarizing most of these guys were. Most of them were against any type of additional spending on anything. These were people who thought it would be OK to let the government default. Many, even the ones in power, don't understand how appropriations work. And because their opinions were so outrageous, the Tea Party was given an especially strong media platform. This is actively undermining the establishment Republicans, but even worse it is undermining actually getting anything done.

Having said that, the Republicans stubborn commitment against higher taxes and their ideological realignment will eventually result in a colossal mess in the House that will only resolve itself when they are voted out and the Democrats win a majority.


No just a majority. A Franklin Roosevelt Administration grade majority.
 
2012-05-14 12:02:56 PM
Why do the republicans in congress need a leader anyway? You could train one of B.F. Skinner's mutts to do the job of all of them.

"Gee, McConnell, what do you want us to do today?"
"The same thing we do everyday - vote no on anything proposed or supported by a democrat!"
 
2012-05-14 12:03:31 PM

Salt Lick Steady: EyeballKid: Republican establishment: "Under Pressure"

Tea Party: "Ice Ice Baby"

Republican establishment: Ini Kamoze

Tea Party: Snow


Excuse me, mista offisah.
 
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