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(NYPost)   Ever wonder where the irreplaceable 4000 hours of Carson's Tonight Show tapes are immaculately stored?   (nypost.com) divider line 73
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2012-05-14 09:24:29 AM  
Jupiter?
 
2012-05-14 09:30:20 AM  
In a mayonaise jar on Funk and Wagnal's doorstep?
 
2012-05-14 09:31:13 AM  
Pictures of said storage area or GTFO.
 
2012-05-14 09:32:35 AM  
In Octomom's vag?
 
2012-05-14 09:33:59 AM  
why wouldn't they just digitize the tapes?

even tapes left in a vault will decompose.
 
2012-05-14 09:36:26 AM  
Good. Nothing is worse than impure storage.
 
2012-05-14 09:39:42 AM  
A junker, a funker, and a bunker!

*opens envelope*

What are Redd Foxx, George Clinton, and where The Tonight Show tapes are stored!
 
2012-05-14 09:41:28 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: why wouldn't they just digitize the tapes?

even tapes left in a vault will decompose.


In what format are you digitizing to? Will it be around in 100 years? Will it be readable in 50?

The reason you hold onto the original prints is because by and large the resolution on said analog prints is much higher than any digital copy, even the newest best grade digital is still inferior to 35mm stock film (as long as it's taken care of).

Look at the original "touch up" of star wars that Lucas did - where did he go for his source? The original stock footage.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't digitize, but if you want VERY good restoration quality material, always go with straight film.
 
2012-05-14 09:41:49 AM  
By the Slossen cutoff?
 
2012-05-14 09:51:10 AM  
Near the tallahachee bridge.
 
2012-05-14 09:51:28 AM  

Dr.Zom: A junker, a funker, and a bunker!

*opens envelope*

What are Redd Foxx, George Clinton, and where The Tonight Show tapes are stored!

---------------------------------

Chocolate, San Andreas, and where the Carson tapes are

A malt, a fault, a vault.

--------------------------------

Oliver Twist, what you get from having sex with Angelina Jolie, and the location of the Carson tapes.

A waif, a chafe, a safe.

--------------------------------
 
2012-05-14 09:54:07 AM  

Bio-nic: tenpoundsofcheese: why wouldn't they just digitize the tapes?

even tapes left in a vault will decompose.

In what format are you digitizing to? Will it be around in 100 years? Will it be readable in 50?

The reason you hold onto the original prints is because by and large the resolution on said analog prints is much higher than any digital copy, even the newest best grade digital is still inferior to 35mm stock film (as long as it's taken care of).

Look at the original "touch up" of star wars that Lucas did - where did he go for his source? The original stock footage.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't digitize, but if you want VERY good restoration quality material, always go with straight film.


Tapes ≠ Film
 
2012-05-14 09:58:06 AM  

Bio-nic: tenpoundsofcheese: why wouldn't they just digitize the tapes?

even tapes left in a vault will decompose.

In what format are you digitizing to? Will it be around in 100 years? Will it be readable in 50?

yeah, I get that, but how many projectors will be around in 100 years? I guess you can always build one.

The reason you hold onto the original prints is because by and large the resolution on said analog prints is much higher than any digital copy, even the newest best grade digital is still inferior to 35mm stock film (as long as it's taken care of).

but doesn't the tape eventually degrade?

 
2012-05-14 09:58:23 AM  
Is that a typo in the article??

45 stories underground??

I did not know that.
 
2012-05-14 09:58:56 AM  

Bio-nic: tenpoundsofcheese: why wouldn't they just digitize the tapes?

even tapes left in a vault will decompose.

In what format are you digitizing to? Will it be around in 100 years? Will it be readable in 50?

The reason you hold onto the original prints is because by and large the resolution on said analog prints is much higher than any digital copy, even the newest best grade digital is still inferior to 35mm stock film (as long as it's taken care of).

Look at the original "touch up" of star wars that Lucas did - where did he go for his source? The original stock footage.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't digitize, but if you want VERY good restoration quality material, always go with straight film.


Except that the originals here were apparently video tape. Or more likely a mix of film for the really old shows and tape for the rest. And while the original slowly deteriorates a digital copy can be reproduced in several places and kept up to date with passing fads in video format. It just takes some effort from an archivist to run scripts that copy the aging format into the new hotness format. And a real archive like this will pay someone to do it, unlike you with your mpeg collection.
 
2012-05-14 10:04:47 AM  
Also, the Carson show was crap 90% of the time too. Because he hated people that came on his show and did nothing but plug their latest movie/show there was a large number of folks that wouldn't appear on Carson. By the end of the '80's there were times when he had Charles Nelson Reilly (his go to filler guest) on once or twice a week.
 
2012-05-14 10:05:09 AM  
I saw a documentary about the salt mines. It was very interesting to see how efficiently those warehouses can be run.

/Coll story, I know
 
2012-05-14 10:10:28 AM  
Now to advocate the digitization of all the old stock and making it available through commercial services to pay for the digitization and redundant backups.

Magnetic video tape will degrade over time. If you pick an uncompressed digital format to transfer to then allow it to become massively distributed you should be able to retrieve it for centuries.

I think the bigger problem with the tapes is that the machines that play the early ones are going to become impossible to find. I'd be willing to bet that a network appliance with an ethernet port will be compatible with computers a century from now. Or at least an adapter will be available.
 
2012-05-14 10:11:40 AM  
That is some weird and wacky stuff.
 
2012-05-14 10:13:37 AM  

strangeguitar: Is that a typo in the article??

45 stories underground??

I did not know that.


That is some weird, wild stuff.
 
2012-05-14 10:14:43 AM  
Ted Williams, a mink and the Carson tapes.

Name three things in cold storage.

-------------------------------------------

A jazz musician, Mitt Romney's tax returns, the Carson tapes

Name three things that will never see the light of day

--------------------------------------------
 
2012-05-14 10:16:57 AM  
In beautiful downtown Burbank?
 
2012-05-14 10:21:47 AM  
Three wings, three fingers, and where the Carson tapes are kept.

A Fokker, a shocker, and a locker.
 
2012-05-14 10:25:37 AM  
What, no obvious pic of the Indiana Jones warehouse?
 
2012-05-14 10:36:37 AM  
Lowered expectations, a legally binding contract, and a box of Johnny Carson tapes hidden under his house.

Three things that are keeping Jay Leno on television.
 
2012-05-14 10:39:45 AM  
I will prepare to LMFAO tonight.
 
2012-05-14 10:41:15 AM  
NASA's lunar landing, the federal deficit, and where the Carson tapes are

A mock-up, a cock-up and a lock-up
 
2012-05-14 10:52:05 AM  
Sis, boom, bah

What's the sound a sheep makes when it explodes?
 
2012-05-14 10:53:37 AM  

steve_wmn: Also, the Carson show was crap 90% of the time too. Because he hated people that came on his show and did nothing but plug their latest movie/show there was a large number of folks that wouldn't appear on Carson. By the end of the '80's there were times when he had Charles Nelson Reilly (his go to filler guest) on once or twice a week.


Carson's "90% crap" was a thousand times better than anything in late night today, including Ferguson.
 
2012-05-14 10:53:54 AM  
In Howard Stern's gross filthy shiiii-t box
 
2012-05-14 11:12:19 AM  

billybobtoo: By the Slossen cutoff?


Slauson, actually. Used to live near there.



And the tapes be stored next to the last film copy of London After Midnight....
 
2012-05-14 11:12:22 AM  

zabadu: Sis, boom, bah

What's the sound a sheep makes when it explodes?


For some reason, that one has stuck with me over the years too.

/Floyd R. Turbo, 'Merican
 
2012-05-14 11:15:31 AM  

Bio-nic: tenpoundsofcheese: why wouldn't they just digitize the tapes?

even tapes left in a vault will decompose.

In what format are you digitizing to? Will it be around in 100 years? Will it be readable in 50?

The reason you hold onto the original prints is because by and large the resolution on said analog prints is much higher than any digital copy, even the newest best grade digital is still inferior to 35mm stock film (as long as it's taken care of).

Look at the original "touch up" of star wars that Lucas did - where did he go for his source? The original stock footage.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't digitize, but if you want VERY good restoration quality material, always go with straight film.


Yes. I anticipate that in 2062 VLC will still be able to play MPG4, MKV, XVID and whatever else. Thats the thing about digital formats, they dont require a special player, like old cassete tapes, just some software to run it. And if for whatever reason thats not feasible, you just reencode it to whatever the flavor of the decade is. Heck, your browser can display *.gif files just fine, thats a 25 year old format.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-14 11:23:46 AM  
FTFA:
As Jerry Seinfeld says, "There never was a 'Tonight Show.' It was Carson.
"When he left, that show never existed again."



I wonder if Seinfeld will be on Leno anytime soon?
 
2012-05-14 11:25:57 AM  
An object traveling in a vacuum, a Bill Clinton speech, and the Carson tapes.

Name three things that go on forever.
 
2012-05-14 11:28:15 AM  
You know who else likes to hang out in an old salt mine?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-05-14 11:28:57 AM  

timharrod: strangeguitar: Is that a typo in the article??

45 stories underground??

I did not know that.

That is some weird, wild stuff.


You are correct, sir!
 
2012-05-14 11:29:59 AM  
Elisabeth Hasselbeck's mouth, Rosie O'Donnell's lady parts, and the Grand Canyon after a few more eons.

Name the only three places big enough to store the Carson tapes.
 
2012-05-14 11:41:37 AM  

GameSprocket:
I did not know that.

That is some weird, wild stuff.

You are correct, sir!


Charlene longs to squeeze the Charmin of this man... (ORGAN STING)
 
2012-05-14 11:41:53 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: why wouldn't they just digitize the tapes?

even tapes left in a vault will decompose.


www.redorbit.com

Digitization doesn't always guarantee immortality to data.

Read these. ANY of these.
 
2012-05-14 11:41:54 AM  
Yet another reason to avoid Hutch.
 
2012-05-14 11:48:03 AM  
I didn't even know you were Jewish!
 
2012-05-14 12:24:51 PM  
Could someone forward this article to the BBC circa 1950?
 
2012-05-14 12:26:05 PM  

eggrolls: tenpoundsofcheese: why wouldn't they just digitize the tapes?

even tapes left in a vault will decompose.



Digitization doesn't always guarantee immortality to data.

Read these. ANY of these.


Up until a few years ago, we had a setup to read all of those and copy their contents.....along with several flavors of mag tapes.
 
2012-05-14 12:31:04 PM  

CarnySaur: Could someone forward this article to the BBC circa 1950?


Nearly an entire series of Spike Millgan was erased. They did manage to save his tribute to Elgar for six garden hoses.
 
2012-05-14 12:32:19 PM  

billybobtoo: By the Slossen cutoff?


jharbor: In a mayonaise jar on Funk and Wagnal's doorstep?


Heh.

I cannot wait for this. I'll be taking an hour off from the Devils-Rangers and Mets-Brewers(?) games to watch this.
 
2012-05-14 12:39:55 PM  
As a happy secondary benefit, that means the best of Carol Wayne is also
preserved:

upload.wikimedia.org

Couldn't find a good SFW pic.
 
2012-05-14 12:49:46 PM  

steve_wmn: Also, the Carson show was crap 90% of the time too. Because he hated people that came on his show and did nothing but plug their latest movie/show there was a large number of folks that wouldn't appear on Carson. By the end of the '80's there were times when he had Charles Nelson Reilly (his go to filler guest) on once or twice a week.


Chevy?
 
2012-05-14 12:52:03 PM  

wildcardjack:
Magnetic video tape will degrade over time. If you pick an uncompressed digital format to transfer to then allow it to become massively distributed you should be able to retrieve it for centuries.


THIS. One of my first jobs in the TV industry was dubbing archived material from 2" videotape to the then-current 1" C format. After only 10-15 years in temperature-controlled storage, a lot of the 2" tape had degraded to the point where it had to be manually cleaned and tested before being mounted on the playback VTR. This was almost 20 years ago, so the 1" material will now be in a similar state. If the format upgrade wasn't a continuous process by the archivists, then a lot of Carson's early material is already unplayable. Unless...

I think the bigger problem with the tapes is that the machines that play the early ones are going to become impossible to find. I'd be willing to bet that a network appliance with an ethernet port will be compatible with computers a century from now. Or at least an adapter will be available.

Again, this. Already, finding working 2" and 1" VTRs is a tough job, and finding parts and knowledgeable maintenance people is even tougher. The early cassette-based analog formats and a few of the early digital ones have already disappeared from the market, as well. Folks sitting on libraries of material produced as recently as a decade ago are going to find it harder and harder to actually view their content unless they've moved it into digital storage.
 
2012-05-14 01:02:16 PM  
I miss Johnny a LOT
watched Leno maybe 5 time from start to finish
And that was years ago
 
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