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StrikitRich		2012-05-14 08:36:33 AM

More likely cause is alcohol & hormones than bolt-ons with teens.

Creoena		2012-05-14 08:39:22 AM

Or, you know they could keep their legs closed

Girl Pants		2012-05-14 08:47:36 AM

Why are they focusing on preventing repeat teen pregnancies? Why not focus on stopping (unwanted) teen pregnancies altogether? Or do they think that no girls will listen until they've been knocked up once already?

MindStalker		2012-05-14 08:49:02 AM

Creoena: Or, you know they could keep their legs closed

FTFA: "Up to half of teens and young women who give birth are pregnant again within a year".
This isn't just about them, its about society in total. Its like talking about criminals/prisoners who are repeat offenders, "Maybe they should just stop committing crimes.".

rjakobi		2012-05-14 09:12:19 AM

MindStalker: Creoena: Or, you know they could keep their legs closed

FTFA: "Up to half of teens and young women who give birth are pregnant again within a year".
This isn't just about them, its about society in total. Its like talking about criminals/prisoners who are repeat offenders, "Maybe they should just stop committing crimes.".

Aren't the criminals the ones reimpregnating the women?

kroonermanblack		2012-05-14 09:15:36 AM

Girl Pants: Why are they focusing on preventing repeat teen pregnancies? Why not focus on stopping (unwanted) teen pregnancies altogether? Or do they think that no girls will listen until they've been knocked up once already?

Because once could be an accident (no contraceptive is perfect) and not allow abortions.

Multiple times as a teen means you're a worthless cum dumpster who needs to be eugenicsed.

PsyLord		2012-05-14 09:25:33 AM

Finally subby? Those contraceptive implants have been around for decades.

Old enough to know better		2012-05-14 09:27:27 AM

*Not available in Arizona, Texas, Missisippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida, Kansas , Iowa, Arkansas, Tennessee, or Utah. You cheap whore.

jso2897		2012-05-14 09:43:52 AM

Some of the unintentional self-revelation in these threads is pretty mind-boggling. If I were a psychologist, I suppose I would find it fascinating, rather than just repellent.

prjindigo		2012-05-14 09:53:21 AM

It doesn't take breast implants to get a teenager knocked up, had one climbing in my lap faster than I could shove her away a few years ago.

The ginormous bulge in my pants has caused me lots of problems. I've you've got an available coont-implant, that's all it takes to get a teeny preggo.

CygnusDarius		2012-05-14 10:01:03 AM

Something something Brave New World.

Giltric		2012-05-14 10:05:16 AM

Girl Pants: Why are they focusing on preventing repeat teen pregnancies? Why not focus on stopping (unwanted) teen pregnancies altogether? Or do they think that no girls will listen until they've been knocked up once already?

Well....no matter what the kids are taught in school about contraception, they still have to stop being lazy...oh I'm sorry , let me rephrase that for the its not the kids fault crowd....they have top stop being in the moment and use the contraception....but hey if they can't help being in the moment we have an entire system of safety nets designed to help them....so we teach kids that its both ok and wrong at the same time.

Dr Dreidel		2012-05-14 10:15:50 AM

Giltric: Girl Pants: Why are they focusing on preventing repeat teen pregnancies? Why not focus on stopping (unwanted) teen pregnancies altogether? Or do they think that no girls will listen until they've been knocked up once already?

Well....no matter what the kids are taught in school about contraception, they still have to stop being lazy...oh I'm sorry , let me rephrase that for the its not the kids fault crowd....they have top stop being in the moment and use the contraception....but hey if they can't help being in the moment we have an entire system of safety nets designed to help them....so we teach kids that its both ok and wrong at the same time.

And what if they're taught that there is no such thing as contraception? That abstinence is the only surefire way to not get pregnant or AIDSy or hellbound?

What happens WHEN they get pregnant to the tune of 10x per "sinful" city birth? Can we still blame laziness and "being in the moment"? Is it OK to remove the safety net once they're all abstinence-only educated?

abhorrent1		2012-05-14 10:17:58 AM

How'bout to teach your daughters to not be filthy whores.

Millennium		2012-05-14 10:21:12 AM

Didn't the eugenics folks ruin this concept for everybody back in the early 1900s?

Theaetetus		2012-05-14 10:39:19 AM

abhorrent1: How'bout to teach your daughters to not be filthy whores.

Most teens have sex. That doesn't make them "filthy whores." That's just your 25-year-old-virgin self being bitter.

natazha		2012-05-14 10:40:13 AM

"Teenagers who have been pregnant should not have access to contraception. It will encourage them to have sex."

Actual quote from a local hearing on teen pregnancy. That year, our high school had no less than 14 virgin births!

Giltric		2012-05-14 10:43:36 AM

Dr Dreidel: Giltric: Girl Pants: Why are they focusing on preventing repeat teen pregnancies? Why not focus on stopping (unwanted) teen pregnancies altogether? Or do they think that no girls will listen until they've been knocked up once already?

Well....no matter what the kids are taught in school about contraception, they still have to stop being lazy...oh I'm sorry , let me rephrase that for the its not the kids fault crowd....they have top stop being in the moment and use the contraception....but hey if they can't help being in the moment we have an entire system of safety nets designed to help them....so we teach kids that its both ok and wrong at the same time.

And what if they're taught that there is no such thing as contraception? That abstinence is the only surefire way to not get pregnant or AIDSy or hellbound?

What happens WHEN they get pregnant to the tune of 10x per "sinful" city birth? Can we still blame laziness and "being in the moment"? Is it OK to remove the safety net once they're all abstinence-only educated?

Well it is.......do you disagree?

Millennium		2012-05-14 10:56:07 AM

Giltric: Well it is.......do you disagree?

Actually, it's not entirely surefire either, and it doesn't even require the Archangel Gabriel to show up. It does require the sorts of circumstances usually reserved for Ripley's Believe it or Not, but there are documented cases. They tend to involve things that would otherwise been safe, except that the people involved were in the water at the time. The odds are still quite low, but they cease to be zero at that point.

Dr Dreidel		2012-05-14 10:57:05 AM

Giltric: Dr Dreidel: Giltric: Girl Pants: Why are they focusing on preventing repeat teen pregnancies? Why not focus on stopping (unwanted) teen pregnancies altogether? Or do they think that no girls will listen until they've been knocked up once already?

Well....no matter what the kids are taught in school about contraception, they still have to stop being lazy...oh I'm sorry , let me rephrase that for the its not the kids fault crowd....they have top stop being in the moment and use the contraception....but hey if they can't help being in the moment we have an entire system of safety nets designed to help them....so we teach kids that its both ok and wrong at the same time.

And what if they're taught that there is no such thing as contraception? That abstinence is the only surefire way to not get pregnant or AIDSy or hellbound?

What happens WHEN they get pregnant to the tune of 10x per "sinful" city birth? Can we still blame laziness and "being in the moment"? Is it OK to remove the safety net once they're all abstinence-only educated?

Well it is.......do you disagree?

Yes. Yes I do.

You can get all kinds of STD/STIs through non-vaginal intercourse (you know, the kind that causes pregnancy) and there's the odd needle stick or other blood-based vector for transmission - minimal in comparison, but still a nonzero chance.

The possibility of pregnancy exists any time you introduce sperm cells into the vagina/uterus. Usually, vaginal sex, but there was the famous story of a woman who "saved" the results of oral sex to inseminate herself, and won a child support claim against the duped guy. Again - rare, but still a nonzero chance.

And then there's the "after-the-fact" contraception - sure, it doesn't help if you and your partner have successfully "used" abstinence to not get pregnant or infected - like in cases of rape, or your partner can't get 100% abstinent, or one of those edge cases from above. Wouldn't it be better to know that you can get help, where to go to get it, or to already have some working knowledge of how the biological (and physiological, and psychological) processes work?

Rather than "You don't know ANYTHING" and hope for the best?

// we teach kids to use seat belts; are we "encouraging them to get in car accidents"?

kroonermanblack		2012-05-14 10:59:16 AM

jso2897: Some of the unintentional self-revelation in these threads is pretty mind-boggling. If I were a psychologist, I suppose I would find it fascinating, rather than just repellent.

To be fair, some people are just trolling.

Mines about half and half (do average for me).

Giltric		2012-05-14 11:00:12 AM

Millennium: Giltric: Well it is.......do you disagree?

Actually, it's not entirely surefire either, and it doesn't even require the Archangel Gabriel to show up. It does require the sorts of circumstances usually reserved for Ripley's Believe it or Not, but there are documented cases. They tend to involve things that would otherwise been safe, except that the people involved were in the water at the time. The odds are still quite low, but they cease to be zero at that point.

Plus they would have to answer the questions honestly.....

No Ma we were just sitting in the pool....honest to goodness he did not put his peener in my cooter.

Khellendros		2012-05-14 11:04:26 AM

Creoena: Or, you know they could keep their legs closed

Thank you for suggesting a solution that hasn't worked for the entirety of human existence. People are genetically programmed to have sex. We enjoy it from an early age, an age where we don't yet have good reasoning (or even a developed frontal lobe) to combat such urges. How about we realize the facts of what we are, how biology works, and adjust the situation so we don't shame people for doing what comes naturally, and it doesn't completely screw up their lives?

I don't know. Maybe that makes too much sense.

Giltric		2012-05-14 11:20:59 AM

Dr Dreidel: Giltric: Dr Dreidel: Giltric: Girl Pants: Why are they focusing on preventing repeat teen pregnancies? Why not focus on stopping (unwanted) teen pregnancies altogether? Or do they think that no girls will listen until they've been knocked up once already?

Well....no matter what the kids are taught in school about contraception, they still have to stop being lazy...oh I'm sorry , let me rephrase that for the its not the kids fault crowd....they have top stop being in the moment and use the contraception....but hey if they can't help being in the moment we have an entire system of safety nets designed to help them....so we teach kids that its both ok and wrong at the same time.

And what if they're taught that there is no such thing as contraception? That abstinence is the only surefire way to not get pregnant or AIDSy or hellbound?

What happens WHEN they get pregnant to the tune of 10x per "sinful" city birth? Can we still blame laziness and "being in the moment"? Is it OK to remove the safety net once they're all abstinence-only educated?

Well it is.......do you disagree?

Yes. Yes I do.

You can get all kinds of STD/STIs through non-vaginal intercourse (you know, the kind that causes pregnancy) and there's the odd needle stick or other blood-based vector for transmission - minimal in comparison, but still a nonzero chance.

The possibility of pregnancy exists any time you introduce sperm cells into the vagina/uterus. Usually, vaginal sex, but there was the famous story of a woman who "saved" the results of oral sex to inseminate herself, and won a child support claim against the duped guy. Again - rare, but still a nonzero chance.

And then there's the "after-the-fact" contraception - sure, it doesn't help if you and your partner have successfully "used" abstinence to not get pregnant or infected - like in cases of rape, or your partner can't get 100% abstinent, or one of those edge cases from above. Wouldn't it be better to know that you can get help, where to ...

I didn't bold the hiv part...you did.

Yep all sorts of ways to get pregnant through abstinance....IVF, sperm floating around in water that makes its way into the vagina....saving the sperm after oral and using a turkey baster or w/e....

I guess I was technically wrong about abstinance.....which is the best kind of wrong. I mean theres always gonna be some far fetched exception for somone to make claim to some sort of win over.

I bet there are a number of people out there who had no sex ed classes when they were in school and managed to avoid getting pregnant except when they wanted to....are the generations getting more and more irresponsible or just dumber?

Giltric		2012-05-14 11:29:00 AM

Khellendros: Creoena: Or, you know they could keep their legs closed

Thank you for suggesting a solution that hasn't worked for the entirety of human existence. People are genetically programmed to have sex. We enjoy it from an early age, an age where we don't yet have good reasoning (or even a developed frontal lobe) to combat such urges. How about we realize the facts of what we are, how biology works, and adjust the situation so we don't shame people for doing what comes naturally, and it doesn't completely screw up their lives?

I don't know. Maybe that makes too much sense.

How about not making excuses for them before they make the mistake of getting pregnant. Oh its a biological urge, oh it feels good how do you stop them, oh they have no reasoning skills, we can't blame them, its not their fault.

We can't use costs of raising a child as a deterrent....cause the state shall take from another to provide for them if they can't provide for themself.

Fark it....bring back shaming.

Millennium		2012-05-14 11:33:14 AM

Giltric: Millennium: Giltric: Well it is.......do you disagree?

Actually, it's not entirely surefire either, and it doesn't even require the Archangel Gabriel to show up. It does require the sorts of circumstances usually reserved for Ripley's Believe it or Not, but there are documented cases. They tend to involve things that would otherwise been safe, except that the people involved were in the water at the time. The odds are still quite low, but they cease to be zero at that point.

Plus they would have to answer the questions honestly.....

No Ma we were just sitting in the pool....honest to goodness he did not put his peener in my cooter.

Those cases are easy enough to weed out. It still happens: quite rarely, to be sure, but often enough that the odds are no longer quite zero.

Dr Dreidel		2012-05-14 11:37:47 AM

Giltric: I didn't bold the hiv part...you did.

Yep all sorts of ways to get pregnant through abstinance....IVF, sperm floating around in water that makes its way into the vagina....saving the sperm after oral and using a turkey baster or w/e....

I guess I was technically wrong about abstinance.....which is the best kind of wrong. I mean theres always gonna be some far fetched exception for somone to make claim to some sort of win over.

I bet there are a number of people out there who had no sex ed classes when they were in school and managed to avoid getting pregnant except when they wanted to....are the generations getting more and more irresponsible or just dumber?

Well, the sciences of demography, statistics, psychology, biology, epidemiology, and endocrinology have advanced in the last generation or two. It might be nice if we shared some of that info with the kids (even as it relates to teens' sexual health and sex education), that they might benefit from our research.

Many kids in both my parents' generation and mine figured out how not to get pregnant. Many did not (or at least, put that information to no good use). Are you arguing that it's worse now (i.e. more teens are getting pregnant), not appreciably better now, ought to be better but isn't...help me out here.

My point is that no matter what the psychology is, if we tell kids "Here are all the things that can happen to your fun-bits if you (mis)use them," forewarned is forearmed. Age-appropriate, sure (about 15-16), but I really can't fathom how anyone thinks a higher volume of information - and information with more educational value, at that - is somehow bad. Teaching them math doesn't encourage cheating on their taxes, so why does teaching them about sex cause them to have it?

For that matter, I'd like to hear an argument for the point that giving them more and better info is somehow bad.

bk3k		2012-05-14 11:40:21 AM

Creoena: Or, you know they could keep their legs closed

Or you could just bury your head in the sand.

Teens WILL have sex. Its our core instinct, and you can't over-ride that with a stern lecture. Nor should you try.

As long as they are safe about it, there in no reason that teens should not engage in sex. Sexual morality is firmly in the category of useless, backwards ancient tradition. It serves no purpose at all. Sex feels good, is great exercise(tell me today's youth can't use more exercise), and there is nothing wrong with it. There is no practical reason for celibacy.

So go fark yourself while I go fark other people.

chemrebel		2012-05-14 11:46:45 AM

A good friend of mine just had the Implanon procedure done on her 15 yr old stepdaughter, so I'm getting a kick of this thread.

/best thing that could have been done for the kid

Mr.Tangent		2012-05-14 11:55:11 AM

natazha: "Teenagers who have been pregnant should not have access to contraception. It will encourage them to have sex."

Actual quote from a local hearing on teen pregnancy. That year, our high school had no less than 14 virgin births!

Praise be the lord, it's a miracle!

The best strategy is to shame those sluts! I say we tatoo "diseased whore" on their foreheads.

bk3k		2012-05-14 11:57:42 AM

natazha: "Teenagers who have been pregnant should not have access to contraception. It will encourage them to have sex."

Actual quote from a local hearing on teen pregnancy. That year, our high school had no less than 14 virgin births!

I think there is another cause of high teen births. As you likely know, women can be real attention whores(run intended). So now a days you have the "pro-life" crowds who feels that "abortion is murder" (it isn't even close but anyways).

These crazy people always surround a pregnant teen and tell her that she has "a little miracle growing inside her" - basically they do this to dissuade her from getting the abortion that a responsible teen would get (they are really not ready to raise a child on their own at this age and getting an abortion would be them fixing their mistake).

This teenage girl who got pregnant is suddenly at the center of attention. This is what they crave. Other young girls see this. How many young girls have you heard say "I want a baby?" Its not that they crave that level of responsibility. What they really want is that level of attention. Its the same reason so many plan out their wedding day before they even meet a man worth marrying. Its not about the being married to a wonderful man. Its all about "their magical day."

Baryogenesis		2012-05-14 12:20:49 PM

Giltric: Khellendros: Creoena: Or, you know they could keep their legs closed

Thank you for suggesting a solution that hasn't worked for the entirety of human existence. People are genetically programmed to have sex. We enjoy it from an early age, an age where we don't yet have good reasoning (or even a developed frontal lobe) to combat such urges. How about we realize the facts of what we are, how biology works, and adjust the situation so we don't shame people for doing what comes naturally, and it doesn't completely screw up their lives?

I don't know. Maybe that makes too much sense.

How about not making excuses for them before they make the mistake of getting pregnant. Oh its a biological urge, oh it feels good how do you stop them, oh they have no reasoning skills, we can't blame them, its not their fault.

We can't use costs of raising a child as a deterrent....cause the state shall take from another to provide for them if they can't provide for themself.

Fark it....bring back shaming.

Since you're going full troll here....how about this:

We'll give everyone comprehensive sex education and easy access to cheap/free contraceptives and because some folks will still get pregnant unintentionally you'll still be able to go on your angry rants. WIN WIN

factoryconnection		2012-05-14 12:24:33 PM

Wow, I had no idea about the repeat knock-up rate going with teenaged mothers. I understand why it would happen; parenthood is isolating enough but throw being a teenager and a single mother... any attention would be welcomed.

So guys see this weakness and pounce, knowing that she puts out and is lonely. Baby #2, on the way.

pciszek		2012-05-14 01:05:12 PM

Why wait until they've had the first pregnancy?

give me doughnuts		2012-05-14 01:13:35 PM

WHY ARE THERE NO PICS OF HOT TEENS IN THIS THREAD?!

Khellendros		2012-05-14 01:20:39 PM

Giltric: Fark it....bring back shaming.

Again - hasn't worked since the beginning of human existence. People will hide things, lie, kill, steal, whatever to avoid the shame or punishment, but they don't stop having sex. You can continue beating your head against the wall, or you can be part of a real solution. Choose wisely.

ongbok		2012-05-14 01:38:23 PM

PsyLord: Finally subby? Those contraceptive implants have been around for decades.

Yes they have and it is a shame that every teenaged girl doesn't have one. If I had a teenaged girl I would have her implanted with one, and I would also take her on monthly field trips to an AIDS hospice to make sure she understands that she still needs to make sure her partner wears protection.

/I would also do the field trips to the AIDS hospice if I had a teenaged son.

Nickninja		2012-05-14 02:07:42 PM

These contraceptives are so ingeniously designed that they can be nearly 100% effective. They combine significant weight gain with up to a 4x increase in biatchiness and a 95% reduction in sex drive.

/can't get pregnant if you never have sex

pciszek		2012-05-14 02:30:52 PM

Nickninja: can't get pregnant if you never have sex

Christianity has been trying to put a stop to sex for 2,000 years and has never succeeded. How many times can you keep saying "This year will be different, honest!"?

ronin7		2012-05-14 02:50:19 PM

Giltric: Khellendros: Creoena: Or, you know they could keep their legs closed

Thank you for suggesting a solution that hasn't worked for the entirety of human existence. People are genetically programmed to have sex. We enjoy it from an early age, an age where we don't yet have good reasoning (or even a developed frontal lobe) to combat such urges. How about we realize the facts of what we are, how biology works, and adjust the situation so we don't shame people for doing what comes naturally, and it doesn't completely screw up their lives?

I don't know. Maybe that makes too much sense.

How about not making excuses for them before they make the mistake of getting pregnant. Oh its a biological urge, oh it feels good how do you stop them, oh they have no reasoning skills, we can't blame them, its not their fault.

We can't use costs of raising a child as a deterrent....cause the state shall take from another to provide for them if they can't provide for themself.

Fark it....bring back shaming.

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. For your sake I hope to god this is an attempt to 'troll'.

rickycal78		2012-05-14 06:02:44 PM

While it's a nice idea, it won't help those damned weird religious folks that believe contraception is a sin and end up popping out babies they can't afford once a year or so. Combine being taught that contraception is bad if they even bother teaching that contraception exists and being taught that premarital sex is bad along with masturbation being bad with raging teen hormones and a desire to rebel and you have the perfect recipe for teen pregnancies.

You can also teach about abstinence alongside proper contraceptive use and while it may make a bit of a difference, stupid teens will be stupid.

What we really need to be teaching them is the benefits of oral, anal and masturbation.

Jim_Callahan		2012-05-14 07:29:04 PM

Wait, so get pregnant underaged once, and you're involuntarily implanted with something that prevents your from doing it again until it's actually legal?

... huh, that seems like an almost sane policy suggestion. Did someone convince an official to take his pills for once, or is this purely the hospital's suggestion?