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2012-05-13 09:14:30 PM
If CapnBlues did it, I can at least try too. Mods, please let me know if I'm out of bounds. Capn, I just bought your book, and hope you get good results!

For those who remember, this is the character "Dev Manny, Information Technology Private Investigator". I posted many of his short stories to Fark a while ago and got great feedback and responses from almost everyone. This is "Superliminal", Dev's first book-length adventure.

/been seriously thinking of starting up some kind of Farker Authors Guild, or asking Drew if we could do something official about Farkers who create stuff regularly. There seem to be a few of us on here.
 
2012-05-13 10:26:59 PM
Awesome. Good luck with it. I have two novels started and can't motivate myself to finish either of them. I'm considering trying to write them out longhand to see if that helps any. I'm pretty sure the problem is between my ears, though.
 
2012-05-13 10:27:34 PM
After years of helping people who barely knew how to generate a 2048-bit encryption key, I should've been happy to get a client with a real problem.

I think you've been following me.
 
2012-05-13 11:49:25 PM
Good luck with it.

However, aren't you being ... uhhh... a little ... shall we politely say "forward"? ... by comparing your work to that of Raymond Chandler and Douglas Adams? I mean, hey, if it turns out you are actually that great, then good on you. But I would think such comparison should come from your fans. Coming from yourself, it sounds rather arrogant.

:-/
 
2012-05-13 11:51:47 PM
That said, I do need something to read, and I can afford to drop $3 on a book that I have no idea about. So, on the plus side, you've made a sale. ;)
 
2012-05-13 11:56:30 PM
such comparison should come from your fans. Coming from yourself, it sounds rather arrogant.

Fair enough. My opinion: I needed something well-known and simple to be able to describe the book to others. That's what I came up with. I wasn't going for arrogant, just concise and descriptive.

I do appreciate you checking it out. Thank you!
 
2012-05-14 12:10:43 AM
I upvoted you but I dunno. I doubt they are going to green too many of these, for the same reason you don't feed stray cats, because their cat pals catch on and soon you are feeding 200 cats. No offense, they might greenlight you too and you could be on the bestseller list some day soon. But if I was you I would go plug your book in the other dudes thread, people are being generous and nice in there. That thread has room for two. And pitch your idea to drew. Maybe he could make an author's forum or something.
 
2012-05-14 12:17:37 AM

violentsalvation: I upvoted you but I dunno. I doubt they are going to green too many of these, for the same reason you don't feed stray cats, because their cat pals catch on and soon you are feeding 200 cats. No offense, they might greenlight you too and you could be on the bestseller list some day soon. But if I was you I would go plug your book in the other dudes thread, people are being generous and nice in there. That thread has room for two. And pitch your idea to drew. Maybe he could make an author's forum or something.


Cool idea, but I don't want to say anything in the other thread. That's his, and I'd be stealing attention from him. I don't want to do that. I agree completely with your stray cats comparison.

And pitch your idea to drew

I think I will.
 
2012-05-14 02:38:50 AM

abkaiser: violentsalvation: I upvoted you but I dunno. I doubt they are going to green too many of these, for the same reason you don't feed stray cats, because their cat pals catch on and soon you are feeding 200 cats. No offense, they might greenlight you too and you could be on the bestseller list some day soon. But if I was you I would go plug your book in the other dudes thread, people are being generous and nice in there. That thread has room for two. And pitch your idea to drew. Maybe he could make an author's forum or something.

Cool idea, but I don't want to say anything in the other thread. That's his, and I'd be stealing attention from him. I don't want to do that. I agree completely with your stray cats comparison.

And pitch your idea to drew

I think I will.


I doubt zombie book subby would mind, and it is a perfect place for it. "cool I bought your book, would you mind reading mine? LINK. (something like that)

You are both in the same boat, writing and looking for a way to find an audience. I'm sure he understands that and would be fine with it, and getting all you authors mentioning your books in one thread might be a good start to your fark author's guild.

Sorry you got the red. Goodnight.
 
2012-05-14 02:44:32 AM
You could also consider doing this as a TFD. There are good people there (as well as snark), and you'd probably get noticed more there than disappearing into the regular queue. Maybe you could ask the modmins to bump this over there or if it's ok to make a new thread over there for this...
 
2012-05-14 06:54:05 AM
www.worlddominationcorp.com
www.latimes.com

This is what I'm thinking of subby. So there.
...and now everyone else is too.
 
2012-05-14 07:00:51 AM
Going to need a community plug tab. Not a bad idea actually, I'm sure there are others with online stores, websites or books they want to hawk.
 
2012-05-14 07:02:01 AM
Private Investigator you say?
 
2012-05-14 07:08:33 AM

CapnPlaty: Going to need a community plug tab. Not a bad idea actually, I'm sure there are others with online stores, websites or books they want to hawk.


How about a plug tab? that way we can keep everything organized. I plan on getting the books (No prime plus, but we have a kindle) and It'd be nice to have everything listed together to find it easily.

/GL to all the authors, have some ideas in my head for a few books, just need to do something with them.
 
2012-05-14 07:09:39 AM

Unoriginal_Username: CapnPlaty: Going to need a community plug tab. Not a bad idea actually, I'm sure there are others with online stores, websites or books they want to hawk.

How about a plug tab? that way we can keep everything organized. I plan on getting the books (No prime plus, but we have a kindle) and It'd be nice to have everything listed together to find it easily.

/GL to all the authors, have some ideas in my head for a few books, just need to do something with them.


you know...I read your comment wrong and feel stupid now. I'm going to drink some coffee and go to work. Hopefully I don't blow someones PC up today.
 
2012-05-14 07:35:17 AM
Two plugs for Farkers that have established presences isn't overkill. Also, comparing his work to other authors is helpful to those familiar with their works.

Now everybody go write a goddamn book. We can just laminate a few $5.00 bills and mail them to each other and cut out amazon. Hell put them in the Fatk store.
 
2012-05-14 08:05:19 AM
If it was Chandler Bing fused with Don Adams, you'd have a story right there.
 
2012-05-14 08:13:10 AM
Any sex scenes?
 
2012-05-14 08:41:30 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Teddy-Hunter-The-Underground-ebook/dp/B007YM2K5K /ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1336998483&sr=1-2

teddy Hunter: the underground; 99 cent kindle in lending library (the above link)

runaway teddy-bear robots get hunted down and returned to families.

HA! mine went out a couple weeks ago. not much traffic on it yet
 
2012-05-14 08:45:31 AM
I'll give it a shot.
 
2012-05-14 08:48:31 AM
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-14 08:59:29 AM
I are a good farker, I just bought both of your books. Yay farkauthors! Maybe I should get around to writing mine finally . . .

/cuz we've never heard THAT before
 
2012-05-14 09:00:27 AM
Bought it, gonna give it a try. As for the Chandler/Adams reference, it let me know what type of mood you were looking for. I don't think that's forward at all. If you had said "I blow Chandler/Adams away" that would be arrogance.
 
2012-05-14 09:33:43 AM
another one who took the Chandler/Adams as a reference to what the style of the story is
 
2012-05-14 09:54:54 AM
cool, just downloaded it - congrats and good luck
 
2012-05-14 09:56:15 AM
Thanks, everyone, for the support and interest.

Fark has been oddly supportive over the years - I don't fully understand why, but I really appreciate it!
 
2012-05-14 10:02:36 AM
...and I just noticed this thread went green! Thanks, invisible-but-influential mods!

If anyone's curious, I did contact Drew with an idea for a Fark section/forum/tab/whatever for authors, or as CapnPlaty said, for anyone with something to hawk. I'll post Drew's yes/no thoughts when I get them.
 
2012-05-14 10:16:43 AM
Think Raymond Chandler fused with Douglas Adams

So... Dirk Gently?
 
2012-05-14 10:27:47 AM

Mr_Fabulous: Think Raymond Chandler fused with Douglas Adams

So... Dirk Gently?


Good catch from you and AfroX! There's definitely a resemblance, though I wasn't thinking of Dirk when I created the story. To peel back the curtain a bit, the original inspiration was Garrison Keillor's "Guy Noir". Then I combined the concept with my own profession (IT consultant), and Dev Manny is the result.
 
2012-05-14 10:58:00 AM

abkaiser: Mr_Fabulous: Think Raymond Chandler fused with Douglas Adams

So... Dirk Gently?

Good catch from you and AfroX! There's definitely a resemblance, though I wasn't thinking of Dirk when I created the story. To peel back the curtain a bit, the original inspiration was Garrison Keillor's "Guy Noir". Then I combined the concept with my own profession (IT consultant), and Dev Manny is the result.


I'll make you a deal. I'll pick up your book the next chance I get. In the meantime, go get the new novel by my good friend, Jillian Medoff... I Couldn't Love You More. It's getting great reviews. (It's sort of chick-lit-ish, so maybe you give it to your mom/wife/gf or something.)
 
2012-05-14 11:00:48 AM

abkaiser: If CapnBlues did it, I can at least try too. Mods, please let me know if I'm out of bounds. Capn, I just bought your book, and hope you get good results!

For those who remember, this is the character "Dev Manny, Information Technology Private Investigator". I posted many of his short stories to Fark a while ago and got great feedback and responses from almost everyone. This is "Superliminal", Dev's first book-length adventure.

/been seriously thinking of starting up some kind of Farker Authors Guild, or asking Drew if we could do something official about Farkers who create stuff regularly. There seem to be a few of us on here.


congratulations! i'm gonna buy this for my lady, cause she's the one who owns a kindle. well done sir!
 
2012-05-14 11:01:27 AM
"Think Raymond Chandler fused with Douglas Adams."

Should I be expecting an extremely quirky alien to burst through the door with a gun?
 
2012-05-14 11:09:48 AM

abkaiser: ...and I just noticed this thread went green! Thanks, invisible-but-influential mods!

If anyone's curious, I did contact Drew with an idea for a Fark section/forum/tab/whatever for authors, or as CapnPlaty said, for anyone with something to hawk. I'll post Drew's yes/no thoughts when I get them.


That'd be cool. Or a Fark Writers group or something. Only local writing groups I've ever joined were with pretentious douchebags, and if I'd rather deal with douchebags on Fark.

Would be nice to see how other folks are managing the publication and publicity aspects. There are so many more avenues than the conventional ones it would be interesting to me at least. I plan on self publishing through Kindle later this year, and it would be cool to see what has worked/not worked for others.
 
2012-05-14 11:21:07 AM

Lumbar Puncture: abkaiser: ...and I just noticed this thread went green! Thanks, invisible-but-influential mods!

If anyone's curious, I did contact Drew with an idea for a Fark section/forum/tab/whatever for authors, or as CapnPlaty said, for anyone with something to hawk. I'll post Drew's yes/no thoughts when I get them.

That'd be cool. Or a Fark Writers group or something. Only local writing groups I've ever joined were with pretentious douchebags, and if I'd rather deal with douchebags on Fark.

Would be nice to see how other folks are managing the publication and publicity aspects. There are so many more avenues than the conventional ones it would be interesting to me at least. I plan on self publishing through Kindle later this year, and it would be cool to see what has worked/not worked for others.


From a publishing standpoint, the Amazon system is extremely easy to use for anyone with a little technical knowledge. I've published both ebooks, paper books and audio books, and am pretty comfortable with the process. Marketing, though, is a different matter, because the process isn't used for just ebooks - you have to have a wide scope and a lot of time. (Marketing ability is an advantage a traditional publisher still has over self-publishers.) I would love to know what's worked for people, I can certainly contribute a few methods that have not worked.
 
2012-05-14 11:32:11 AM
Oh yeah, Amazon makes it very easy. When I said publication, I mean that I'm more interested in how people are deciding things like pricing structures for their own work and so on. Free versus .99 versus other pricing methods, as well as methods for hiring editors versus community editing, etc.
 
2012-05-14 11:34:27 AM
Hmmmm... now I'm considering promoting my book about lesbian Catholic School girls trapped in a jello factory.

Nah, nobody here would be interested.
 
2012-05-14 11:36:08 AM
As long as they are punking rich people, you should have a winner on your hands.
 
2012-05-14 12:15:08 PM
I just posted on the other thread about this, but I agree with the Plug forum idea. I bet there are lots of farkers with books, bands, artwork, ect. I have awesome stuff online to sell, but I'm never sure the best way to submit it to Fark.

Having a thread where people can talk to the artist(s) is a really cool idea. These two threads make for interesting very reading. I'm sure Drew could even make an Amazon store link to each product, and get some revenue from each sale.

People are always looking for new creative content, why not point them in the direction of online content created by Farkers? After these two greenlights, there's bound to be a flood of submissions anyway. I don't really see a downside for a Plug community place.

And if something goes big, why not print up a limited edition, have the creators number and sign them, then sell them at a premium price?

I'm a dumbass, but even I can see some revenue and publicity potential in this for Fark.
 
2012-05-14 12:28:56 PM
I don't often read books by farkers, but when I do, I read them naked covered in jello.
 
2012-05-14 12:33:28 PM
a quick note about pricing: you have to worry about pricing too low sometimes. It's a justification effect kind of thing. Charge too little and people assume it's crap. Charge too much and of course people won't pay. There's a sweet spot, and I think it's somewhere above 1 dollar.
 
2012-05-14 12:53:59 PM
wonder what the income boost from a plug is like on this. 3 digits? 4? 5?

good way to measure the power of fark
 
2012-05-14 01:12:51 PM

Tater1337: wonder what the income boost from a plug is like on this. 3 digits? 4? 5?

good way to measure the power of fark


Let me check my stats... In my case, this thread has generated 13 sales and 3 prime borrows so far. For a $0.99 ebook, that's something like $11. So, yes, I'm hauling in a 4-digit income from this, if you count numbers to the right of the decimal.

I'm not selling to make money. Yes, I'd love to do so long term. But right now I'm more concerned with building an audience, getting Amazon reviews after people read the book, building my body of work, and just getting my words in front of other eyeballs. I do appreciate everyone's help - it's great to have the interest and support!
 
2012-05-14 01:24:25 PM
Cthulhu be praised: After posting the above, I checked the stats again, and I'm now at 16 sales and 3 prime borrows.

Thanks again, everyone!
 
2012-05-14 01:30:30 PM
I'll just leave this here, for a friend:

Love, Magick, and Quantum Entanglements
At Amazon
At Barnes & Noble
 
2012-05-14 01:37:34 PM

ZeroCorpse: I'll just leave this here, for a friend:

Love, Magick, and Quantum Entanglements
At Amazon
At Barnes & Noble


Yes. A "friend".
 
2012-05-14 02:43:09 PM
Another vote here for a plug tab/author/creative forum. It's satisfying to finally have your book out there, but at least for me, I'm hitting a wall with marketing. Ebook promotion websites just seem cluttered with everyone hawking their book, and not offering much in targeting an audience in any meaningful way. Plus, I think it would be interesting to see how a farker's fark voice lines up with their author voice- After all, most of us here have only communicated with each other through text on a screen.

/Amazon link in profile. Not going to threadjack another author.
//Good luck to all the fark creatives out there!
 
2012-05-14 03:04:24 PM

abkaiser: Let me check my stats... In my case, this thread has generated 13 sales and 3 prime borrows so far. For a $0.99 ebook, that's something like $11. So, yes, I'm hauling in a 4-digit income from this, if you count numbers to the right of the decimal.


Spouse only has three or four books' rights back, (way too many locked up by old Harlequin contracts) and she's on the Kindle Select program that allows for "borrowing" by Amazon Prime customers, and getting paid fairly nicely for it. I think one book was rented 25 times last month, separate from outright sales. Not bad for a book published over 12 years ago.
 
2012-05-14 03:06:38 PM

abkaiser: Tater1337: wonder what the income boost from a plug is like on this. 3 digits? 4? 5?

good way to measure the power of fark

Let me check my stats... In my case, this thread has generated 13 sales and 3 prime borrows so far. For a $0.99 ebook, that's something like $11. So, yes, I'm hauling in a 4-digit income from this, if you count numbers to the right of the decimal.

I'm not selling to make money. Yes, I'd love to do so long term. But right now I'm more concerned with building an audience, getting Amazon reviews after people read the book, building my body of work, and just getting my words in front of other eyeballs. I do appreciate everyone's help - it's great to have the interest and support!


it's not like getting a mainpage greenlight. a LOT of people only look at the mainpage. the advantage, though, is that the people who do click on the geek tab are right up your alley for our kinds of books. :)

glad to see you're getting success!
 
2012-05-14 03:38:17 PM
That is an amazingly pretentious way for an unknown, unpublished (to my knowledge) writer to describe his work. Seriously? I'm like Hemingway mixed with Shakespeare.
 
2012-05-14 03:55:27 PM

Nrokreffefp: That is an amazingly pretentious way for an unknown, unpublished (to my knowledge) writer to describe his work. Seriously? I'm like Hemingway mixed with Shakespeare.


I can see that, though it wasn't my intent. As I said earlier in the thread:

"Fair enough. My opinion: I needed something well-known and simple to be able to describe the book to others. That's what I came up with. I wasn't going for arrogant, just concise and descriptive."
 
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