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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   After 12 years, fifty-two year old immigrant janitor finally earns his degree from the Ivy League school at which he works. FARK: With the degree he chose, janitor is probably about the only job that he'll be able to get   (ajc.com) divider line 111
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2012-05-13 08:53:16 PM
Incredible. Good for him.
 
2012-05-13 08:53:44 PM
I pursued a degree in theology in my 30's purely for the education, not for the income. Of course I already had a degree in IS that is my base for income. Sometimes people follow a path not baited with money.
 
2012-05-13 08:54:03 PM

9beers: dugitman: One of my buddies at Purdue got free tuition because his mom was a cleaning lady in a dorm. I think all the Indiana state schools are like that.

That's a damn sweet deal, I never knew that schools did that. I can see a discount but not a free ride.


The deal at Cal state schools is 6 units a semester for free if you work there. So it will take you longer but you wont be in debt at the end of it.
 
2012-05-13 08:54:12 PM

9beers: College is free if you're an employee of the school?


Many schools yes it is. The college I work at pays tuition - I have to cover lab fees and books (get 20% off at book store). Supervisors gotta OK it if the course takes place during working hours. And not just tuition for me - any child unmarried living at home and my wife also get free classes.

Of course, the supervisor sign off is the biatch if you don't have a good one. One of our groundskeepers has been working at classes for years on a AA to get him into engineering school - his boss wouldn't let him take a long lunch 3x/week for some important math classes like Calc 2 w/ Diff Eq... Math department finally heard about it and offered the classes he needed during the times he could take 'em without his boss signing off - so he is off to mech. engineering come fall.
 
2012-05-13 08:55:18 PM

9beers: College is free if you're an employee of the school?


At many schools it is.
 
2012-05-13 08:55:50 PM

Fissile: OgreMagi: Left his home country as a war refugee. Worked his ass off during the day. Got a college degree at night. Who cares what the degree is in. His personal history should interest any business who wants to hire someone who doesn't recognize the word, "can't".

And the man even said he wasn't interested in a degree to make money. He just wants to learn for the sake of learning. The very definition of "scholar".

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Consider that there are native born Americans who live within a few blocks of Columbia U, whose families have been in the US for generations, and despite all the advantages offered them, they still can't read at an 8th grade level.


I have zero sympathy for anyone who grew up here who can not read properly in English. "The schools suck!" So what. I went to public school, too. I read at a college level before I entered high school. Why? Because I read a fark of a lot. I didn't spend my every free moment staring at the tv or a computer. I read. My stepdaughter did not speak a word of English when she moved here at age 8. She was speaking fluently within a year. The next year in school she made the honor role. Why? Because I read to her every night until she was ready to read on her own.

Turn off the farking computer and read a farking book! As a parent, read to your damn kids a little each night. If you are too tired to read, then you are too tired to watch tv or browse the internet. No more farking excuses.

/rant off
 
2012-05-13 08:59:27 PM

Fissile: The Shatner Incident: $22 bucks an hour? Jesus, that is a high-paying janitorial job. Fresh nursing graduates make that much an hour.

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The job is in NYC (Manhattan). Even a shiat-hole one bedroom apartment in Queens will set you back $1500 per month.


Yeah. I was thinking of spending a few seasons in NYC but it was hell trying to line up an apartment long distance. Best offer I might have been able to close without being there in person (or using an agent) would have been $1500/month for about 100 square feet near 103rd street on the west side. Twin size loft bed with futon under the bed, kitchenette, fridge, bathroom with 4 square foot shower and convenient toilet-under-sink configuration. Crazy thing is I probably would have taken it for a thousand. I think you need to be standing on the steps waving a fistfull of cash at the building manager when someone else moves out to get an apartment in NYC.

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2012-05-13 09:00:52 PM

LarryDan43: Okay, maybe my Boobies was a bit harsh. Tell you what Janitor Gac, you've got a nice story. If you promise to put your education and story to good use and ensure no one else can do what you did, we'll get you on a regular rotation on the conservative talk show circuit. If you're Janitor Gac story goes over well, we might even be able to get you your own show, or at the very least a Republican Congressional seat. Can you start off by giving us some folksy yugoslav sayings and relate them in a way to take shots at lazy liberals?


I'm sensing some sour grapes here- your ol' lady leave you for an eastern European? Or was this a vehicle for you to play partisan politics where no politics need be involved? Because we all know that conservatives created the AIDS as a way to wipe out those liberal hippy gay types all in one stroke.

Plugging for the Avengers movie- be sure to ride out all the credits for the most awesome slice of life scene ever at the end. Had to have a Farker that thought it up.
 
2012-05-13 09:05:47 PM
So we have a guy with a degree from a major school.

Why is he doomed to a life of low paying jobs?
 
2012-05-13 09:12:06 PM

9beers: College is free if you're an employee of the school?


In many cases, yes. In some cases, your kids can also attend tuition-free (although they would still pay room & board to live on campus).
 
2012-05-13 09:13:25 PM

jtown: Fissile: The Shatner Incident: $22 bucks an hour? Jesus, that is a high-paying janitorial job. Fresh nursing graduates make that much an hour.

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The job is in NYC (Manhattan). Even a shiat-hole one bedroom apartment in Queens will set you back $1500 per month.

Yeah. I was thinking of spending a few seasons in NYC but it was hell trying to line up an apartment long distance. Best offer I might have been able to close without being there in person (or using an agent) would have been $1500/month for about 100 square feet near 103rd street on the west side. Twin size loft bed with futon under the bed, kitchenette, fridge, bathroom with 4 square foot shower and convenient toilet-under-sink configuration. Crazy thing is I probably would have taken it for a thousand. I think you need to be standing on the steps waving a fistfull of cash at the building manager when someone else moves out to get an apartment in NYC.

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You realize there are at least 57 other states out there offering much better value for the dollar. I can offer you you own 650 sqft which includes a fireplace, jacuzzi separate bedroom, large screen TV, deck, and access to the kitchen and laundry for about $900 a month (that should cover my mortgage) if you don't mindgraduating from the University of Louisville.

C'mon folks! I got bills to pay too.

FWIW- I'm moving soon- upward mind you for a reduced mortgage. If I can't move the house in this economy, you're welcome to rent the whole ~1800sqft for 900 a month until you get your degree. I'm flexible
 
2012-05-13 09:20:44 PM

jso2897: privilege


i50.tinypic.com

Inquisitive Inquisitor: Pretty much. The thread is replete with the typical disdain for non-STEM education. That he graduated with honors from an Ivy league school is more than most here can claim, but they'll proudly point to their engineering degree from a third-rate state college and crow about how superior they are.


Really? I counted one of comment before your post: "Not with that degree" . Sure is angsty in here.
 
2012-05-13 09:21:55 PM

OgreMagi: Fissile: OgreMagi: Left his home country as a war refugee. Worked his ass off during the day. Got a college degree at night. Who cares what the degree is in. His personal history should interest any business who wants to hire someone who doesn't recognize the word, "can't".

And the man even said he wasn't interested in a degree to make money. He just wants to learn for the sake of learning. The very definition of "scholar".

===============

Consider that there are native born Americans who live within a few blocks of Columbia U, whose families have been in the US for generations, and despite all the advantages offered them, they still can't read at an 8th grade level.

I have zero sympathy for anyone who grew up here who can not read properly in English. "The schools suck!" So what. I went to public school, too. I read at a college level before I entered high school. Why? Because I read a fark of a lot. I didn't spend my every free moment staring at the tv or a computer. I read. My stepdaughter did not speak a word of English when she moved here at age 8. She was speaking fluently within a year. The next year in school she made the honor role. Why? Because I read to her every night until she was ready to read on her own.

Turn off the farking computer and read a farking book! As a parent, read to your damn kids a little each night. If you are too tired to read, then you are too tired to watch tv or browse the internet. No more farking excuses.

/rant off


-_o
 
2012-05-13 09:23:41 PM

ambassador_ahab: Do janitors really make $22/hr? That's not bad. Maybe I need to get into the floor-sweeping business.


And now we know why the tuition is so farking high.
 
2012-05-13 09:24:28 PM

jtown: Fissile: The Shatner Incident: $22 bucks an hour? Jesus, that is a high-paying janitorial job. Fresh nursing graduates make that much an hour.

==============

The job is in NYC (Manhattan). Even a shiat-hole one bedroom apartment in Queens will set you back $1500 per month.

Yeah. I was thinking of spending a few seasons in NYC but it was hell trying to line up an apartment long distance. Best offer I might have been able to close without being there in person (or using an agent) would have been $1500/month for about 100 square feet near 103rd street on the west side. Twin size loft bed with futon under the bed, kitchenette, fridge, bathroom with 4 square foot shower and convenient toilet-under-sink configuration. Crazy thing is I probably would have taken it for a thousand. I think you need to be standing on the steps waving a fistfull of cash at the building manager when someone else moves out to get an apartment in NYC.

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There are cheaper alternatives to Manhattan, if you don't mind a bit of a commute. Queens can be reasonable, but Queens is crap. The non-hipster areas of Brooklyn can be reasonable but they are crap. The Bronx can be reasonable, but the Bronx is ultra-crap. Staten Island can be reasonable but you would be better of in Jersey.
 
2012-05-13 09:25:41 PM

jso2897: Hai Guyz! Is this the thread where a bunch of born-on-third-base-think-they-hit-a-triple whiteboys come to ridicule somebody who actually had to work for something?


No, this is the thread where a bunch of twenty somethings sit around typing "z0mG he is teh oldz0r!" and yet, someday very much want to reach that age plus 30.
 
2012-05-13 09:26:31 PM

SuperNinjaToad: 9beers: College is free if you're an employee of the school?

yes! and depending on the school kids of employees get in for free too or severely discounted tuition/board.
I know a guy who is also a janitor/custondian and his 5 kids all went to Washington University School of Medicine for free.

Basically he got $1 million tax free working as a janitor for that school. For his sake I hope his kids pay for daily blows and hookers for the rest of his life after the sacrifices he made for them to have a better life by cleaning shiat, urine, puke and other bodily fluids typically found after frat parties.


Yes and no. The tuition benefit is still taxable income. I work at an Ivy and we have to first pay out of pocket for the cost of the course then we are reimbursed. The reimbursement is considered taxable income.

It's still not a bad deal, especially at an Ivy, but not really "free".
 
2012-05-13 09:28:27 PM

illannoyin: ambassador_ahab: Do janitors really make $22/hr? That's not bad. Maybe I need to get into the floor-sweeping business.

And now we know why the tuition is so farking high.


It's like 36 G a year after taxes. He ain't got Maybach money. And, if you look at the cost of living, that's not a hell of a lot of money for 2000 hours of actual work a year.
 
2012-05-13 09:29:27 PM
From the headline I was thinking, "Philosophy."

*checks link*

Yep.
 
2012-05-13 09:31:07 PM

Macular Degenerate: Yep.


Classics != philosophy
 
2012-05-13 09:32:18 PM
Good for him.
 
2012-05-13 09:32:39 PM
"with the degree he chose... "

Because college is about job training, not about intellectual maturity, personal growth, or learning for the sake of learning.

/look like somebody went to the JuCo for an 'applied science' degree.
 
2012-05-13 09:40:14 PM

Fissile: There are cheaper alternatives to Manhattan, if you don't mind a bit of a commute. Queens can be reasonable, but Queens is crap. The non-hipster areas of Brooklyn can be reasonable but they are crap. The Bronx can be reasonable, but the Bronx is ultra-crap. Staten Island can be reasonable but you would be better of in Jersey.


I wasn't looking to resettle and get the most bang for my buck while I grind out a career. I thought it'd be nice to spend fall/winter/spring living in Manhattan on extended vacation. Location was more important than cost and that was the best location that got back to me after weeks of inquiries. Might still do it at some point in the future, tho I'd probably pay an agent to do the legwork.
 
2012-05-13 09:41:40 PM
I study part time and work full time at a University. Similarily - I chose a "useless" field of study.

Most of the young kids who would laugh at my chosen field fail to consider they themselves are living on government handouts and Mi Goreng noodles, whilst I already have a good job and a comfortable life until retirement even if I never take another single step forward.
 
2012-05-13 09:42:34 PM

ChuDogg: jso2897: privilege

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Inquisitive Inquisitor: Pretty much. The thread is replete with the typical disdain for non-STEM education. That he graduated with honors from an Ivy league school is more than most here can claim, but they'll proudly point to their engineering degree from a third-rate state college and crow about how superior they are.

Really? I counted one of comment before your post: "Not with that degree" . Sure is angsty in here.


There is a lot of "project a falsehood about what you want to be angry about" on Fark. I'm kind of in the other school. I read that derpy post as a chunky kitten fighting with its own tail and I giggled a bit.
 
2012-05-13 09:43:53 PM

jtown: Fissile: There are cheaper alternatives to Manhattan, if you don't mind a bit of a commute. Queens can be reasonable, but Queens is crap. The non-hipster areas of Brooklyn can be reasonable but they are crap. The Bronx can be reasonable, but the Bronx is ultra-crap. Staten Island can be reasonable but you would be better of in Jersey.

I wasn't looking to resettle and get the most bang for my buck while I grind out a career. I thought it'd be nice to spend fall/winter/spring living in Manhattan on extended vacation. Location was more important than cost and that was the best location that got back to me after weeks of inquiries. Might still do it at some point in the future, tho I'd probably pay an agent to do the legwork.


======================

A Manhattan apartment for less than $2K per month? That ain't gonna be no vacation.
 
2012-05-13 09:48:51 PM

ChuDogg: jso2897: privilege

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Inquisitive Inquisitor: Pretty much. The thread is replete with the typical disdain for non-STEM education. That he graduated with honors from an Ivy league school is more than most here can claim, but they'll proudly point to their engineering degree from a third-rate state college and crow about how superior they are.

Really? I counted one of comment before your post: "Not with that degree" . Sure is angsty in here.


I'll bet you DID stop reading. If I were you, I would have too.
Truth hurts, don't it, Chad? Or is it Buffy?
 
2012-05-13 09:50:02 PM
Squandered
 
2012-05-13 09:52:02 PM

trappedspirit: Squandered


What was squandered?
 
2012-05-13 10:00:05 PM
He has just moved from the employed to the underemployed demographic... Great...
 
2012-05-13 10:11:30 PM

coeyagi: How about them apples.


i49.tinypic.com

Applesauce, biatch!
 
2012-05-13 10:23:29 PM
Doesn't this guy know anything? I can't believe he is graduating from college with no debt. He should have been borrowing at least 30k a year. You need money for a nice apartment. And what about Spring Break? That's 3k for a week in Cancun. And don't forget about a computer, you need a new Mac Book every two years at least. And an iPhone and iPad, these are all necessities for todays college student. Add on a few thousand for new clothes and of course there's the Starbucks bill (you haven't been studying for free at home or in the library I hope). Trek road bike, mini bar, animal house posters, blacklights, lava lamp, designer back pack, etc etc. See the way it works is after you graduate you join the ranks of the unemployed hipsters, sit in Starbucks all day and use your Mac Book to post enlightened rants, maybe join some Occupy protests, etc. Some day this guy is gonna really regret missing out on all this important stuff and focusing on his job and his studies instead.
 
2012-05-13 10:29:14 PM

Nagle: He has just moved from the employed to the underemployed demographic... Great...


And yet, he didn't lose income, he still pays his bills and is now far better educated. It's almost as if marketing vectors are distilled douchebaggery and as meaningful as cold piss.
 
2012-05-13 10:30:02 PM
I used to cook at a state university, but for a corporation that was contracted to do all of the foodservice on campus. I wasn't eligible for the free and discounted classes that real employees like groundskeepers (Kyle will have a music degree in about a year) and janitors (Christen is about three years from a sociology degree) get. Oh, well. Who needs school?
 
2012-05-13 10:38:03 PM

ElBarto79: Doesn't this guy know anything? I can't believe he is graduating from college with no debt. He should have been borrowing at least 30k a year. You need money for a nice apartment. And what about Spring Break? That's 3k for a week in Cancun. And don't forget about a computer, you need a new Mac Book every two years at least. And an iPhone and iPad, these are all necessities for todays college student. Add on a few thousand for new clothes and of course there's the Starbucks bill (you haven't been studying for free at home or in the library I hope). Trek road bike, mini bar, animal house posters, blacklights, lava lamp, designer back pack, etc etc. See the way it works is after you graduate you join the ranks of the unemployed hipsters, sit in Starbucks all day and use your Mac Book to post enlightened rants, maybe join some Occupy protests, etc. Some day this guy is gonna really regret missing out on all this important stuff and focusing on his job and his studies instead.

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Young man, I think you're full of the parable of:
Sour Miso

The cook monk Dairyo, at Bankei's monastery, decided that he would take good care of his old teacher's health and give him only fresh miso, a paste of soy beans mixed with wheat and yeast that often ferments. Bankei, noticing that he was being served better miso than his pupils, asked: "Who is the cook today?"

Dairyo was sent before him. Bankei learned that according to his age abd position he should eat only fresh miso. So he said to the cook: "Then you think I shouldn't eat at all." With this he entered his room and locked the door.

Dairyo, sitting outside the door, asked his teacher's pardon. Bankei would not answer. For seven days Dairyo sat outside and Bankei within.

Finally in desperation an adherent called loudly to Bankei: "You may be all right, old teacher, but this young disciple here has to eat. He cannot go without food forever!"

At that Bankei opened the door. He was smiling. He told Dairyo: "I insist on eating the same food as the least of my followers. When you become the teacher I do not want you to forget this."
 
2012-05-13 10:53:55 PM

jso2897: steamingpile: jso2897: Hai Guyz! Is this the thread where a bunch of born-on-third-base-think-they-hit-a-triple whiteboys come to ridicule somebody who actually had to work for something?

I didn't realize Fark had so many millionaire's sons posting!!!! I thought I was the only one!

You don't have to be a millionaire's son to be born with twenty times the privilege you're worth. I didn't.
But I have enough sense to know I'm privileged, and appreciate it, and want to give something back.


I, on the other hand, intend to use my straight, white, thin, middle-class privilege to crush all those who seek to drag me down and encourage others in my situation to do the same.
 
2012-05-13 10:55:30 PM
my wife is a university professor and our kids get only 6 credit hours free per semester. but im not complaining, with 5 kids in college at the same time, every little bit helps
 
2012-05-13 10:55:59 PM

baronbloodbath: Guy is (at the very least) bilingual, is a tax paying American citizen, and just earned a degree, all while working a job to support himself and his family.

Living the American Dream. I applaud you, good sir.


What did this have to do with home ownership?
/jk

jso2897: You don't have to be a millionaire's son to be born with twenty times the privilege you're worth. I didn't.
But I have enough sense to know I'm privileged, and appreciate it, and want to give something back.


Ladies and gentlemen, we've found Fark's version of Jean Maximilien Lamarque! We anxiously await your death!

Mattyb710: Not with that degree....


My friend graduated with a classics degree. He went on to a top tier law school and now has his own practice. He does extremely well for himself.
 
2012-05-13 10:58:13 PM

WinoRhino: baronbloodbath: Guy is (at the very least) bilingual, is a tax paying American citizen, and just earned a degree, all while working a job to support himself and his family.

Living the American Dream. I applaud you, good sir.

What did this have to do with home ownership?
/jk

jso2897: You don't have to be a millionaire's son to be born with twenty times the privilege you're worth. I didn't.
But I have enough sense to know I'm privileged, and appreciate it, and want to give something back.

Ladies and gentlemen, we've found Fark's version of Jean Maximilien Lamarque! We anxiously await your death!

Mattyb710: Not with that degree....

My friend graduated with a classics degree. He went on to a top tier law school and now has his own practice. He does extremely well for himself.


My sister's boyfriend graduated with a classics degree. He works as analyst for oil companies, and also does extremely well for himself.
 
2012-05-13 11:06:45 PM

jso2897: ChuDogg: jso2897: privilege

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Inquisitive Inquisitor: Pretty much. The thread is replete with the typical disdain for non-STEM education. That he graduated with honors from an Ivy league school is more than most here can claim, but they'll proudly point to their engineering degree from a third-rate state college and crow about how superior they are.

Really? I counted one of comment before your post: "Not with that degree" . Sure is angsty in here.

I'll bet you DID stop reading. If I were you, I would have too.
Truth hurts, don't it, Chad? Or is it Buffy?


Wow. Look how edgy you are. Please go on *yawn*
 
2012-05-13 11:22:21 PM

WhyteRaven74: trappedspirit: Squandered

What was squandered?


The opportunity to get a degree in a field of study that could actually have some positive impact on the human condition. The resources supplied because he was an employee, those were squandered like a squalid squid.
 
2012-05-13 11:24:37 PM

TheManofPA: 9beers: College is free if you're an employee of the school?

It has been at the places I've worked. Some schools, if you are faculty your spouse is also free and your kids are free (up to a credit limit). Other places have trade programs where your kid can go to a different school for free that has an arrangement with yours. Our school just made a deal to hire someone and one of the arrangements was setting up a trade program with the school his kid was going to (it was a great negotiation on his part).

It is a great way to work and slowly build towards a degree (taking 1-2 courses a term and then some summer work)


It seems to be more of a thing with private schools; I worked at one and have known employees of others who all had that benefit. Most of them sent their kids to school that way. I expect the crazy tuition costs and obscene endowments have a lot to do with it. Sadly because my husband works at a STATE school, I'm going to have to pay full price via a new loan =/

And while I'm sure a lot of you Farkers will ding me for 'whining' about this, he makes about half what he would in the private sector in IT (and less than other schools in the area), but he really likes his job. I've bounced from one shiatty job to the other because a back injury at 23 pretty much ended my ambitions for my first degree and my qualifications don't leave me a lot of opportunity in the area. We're not poor but we're not '$7k extra a year' for tuition level of income.
 
2012-05-13 11:27:46 PM

brap: ChuDogg: jso2897: privilege

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Inquisitive Inquisitor: Pretty much. The thread is replete with the typical disdain for non-STEM education. That he graduated with honors from an Ivy league school is more than most here can claim, but they'll proudly point to their engineering degree from a third-rate state college and crow about how superior they are.

Really? I counted one of comment before your post: "Not with that degree" . Sure is angsty in here.

There is a lot of "project a falsehood about what you want to be angry about" on Fark. I'm kind of in the other school. I read that derpy post as a chunky kitten fighting with its own tail and I giggled a bit.


Ok, that amused me.

I love kittens :3

/favorited you, you magnificent bastard/bastardette.
 
2012-05-13 11:33:08 PM

steamingpile: jso2897: Hai Guyz! Is this the thread where a bunch of born-on-third-base-think-they-hit-a-triple whiteboys come to ridicule somebody who actually had to work for something?

I didn't realize Fark had so many millionaire's sons posting!!!! I thought I was the only one!


Millionaire's sons aren't born on third, their parents pay someone to stand on homeplate for them.
 
2012-05-13 11:52:55 PM

WhippingBoy: WinoRhino: baronbloodbath: Guy is (at the very least) bilingual, is a tax paying American citizen, and just earned a degree, all while working a job to support himself and his family.

Living the American Dream. I applaud you, good sir.

What did this have to do with home ownership?
/jk

jso2897: You don't have to be a millionaire's son to be born with twenty times the privilege you're worth. I didn't.
But I have enough sense to know I'm privileged, and appreciate it, and want to give something back.

Ladies and gentlemen, we've found Fark's version of Jean Maximilien Lamarque! We anxiously await your death!

Mattyb710: Not with that degree....

My friend graduated with a classics degree. He went on to a top tier law school and now has his own practice. He does extremely well for himself.

My sister's boyfriend graduated with a classics degree. He works as analyst for oil companies, and also does extremely well for himself.


CSB: I have a liberal arts BA from Sarah Lawrence college. Har har unemployable, right?

Wrong, it was excellent prep for an MBA, and now I work in real estate - 20 hours a week mostly from my home office, range $200-300k/year. And it's fun too.

I wonder what article guy will do now?
 
2012-05-14 12:04:05 AM

alex10294: He probably likes the subject and has tenure. Why not, if it's free. What I don't understand is paying for it..


Sorry, I believe all he got is a Bachelors in Classics. He can't do much with that. With a PhD, he might be able to teach it at Columbia or elsewhere.

Even then, it's slim pickins'.
 
2012-05-14 12:06:20 AM

Fissile: There are cheaper alternatives to Manhattan, if you don't mind a bit of a commute. Queens can be reasonable, but Queens is crap. The non-hipster areas of Brooklyn can be reasonable but they are crap. The Bronx can be reasonable, but the Bronx is ultra-crap. Staten Island can be reasonable but you would be better of in Jersey.


Astoria is decent, as are Park Slope and Carroll gardens in the BK. Lots of places to live that aren't hipster ground zero like billyburg/bushwick/greenpoint and are still affordable. Yes, there will be some hipsters but thats part of living in an urban area. Theres also a reason people get roomates, where you can keep it under a grand a month and still live somewhere decent.

Bronx, Staten and Jersey, however, have no redeemable qualities...
 
2012-05-14 12:07:59 AM

dericwater: Sorry, I believe all he got is a Bachelors in Classics. He can't do much with that. With a PhD, he might be able to teach it at Columbia or elsewhere.

Even then, it's slim pickins'.


Some people study because they want to rather than simply viewing it as simply resume padding. The vast majority of people end up working in fields with a tenuous at best link to their degrees. My degrees in philosophy and poli sci sure helped me prepare for a career as a container ship broker...
 
2012-05-14 12:39:13 AM
Come on, I can't be the only one who sees this. It's the farking RAINMAN!

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2012-05-14 01:43:45 AM
Isn't this a repeat? Or is Fark just a week behind my FB feed?
 
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