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(The Raw Story)   Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs legislation permitting employers to interrogate female employees about contraception use. Do you object? You must be a harlot   (rawstory.com ) divider line
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2012-05-13 03:42:47 PM  
What a biatch.
 
2012-05-13 03:51:11 PM  
Ms. Brewer, as you are an employee of the State of Arizona, the taxpayers of Arizona would like to know about your contraception use.
 
2012-05-13 03:51:21 PM  
the sexual harassement lawsuits that this is going to generate will be EPIC!
 
2012-05-13 03:51:33 PM  
It's what Arizonans voted for

/I won't question or insult you any more
 
2012-05-13 03:52:47 PM  
granted, i'm not a lawyer...but if employers don't ask male employees the same sorts of questions about their use of birth control, doesn't that invalidate this law? something something equal protection something something?
 
2012-05-13 03:53:06 PM  

Weaver95: the sexual harassement lawsuits that this is going to generate will be EPIC!


Not to mention the HIPAA lawsuits.
 
2012-05-13 03:53:44 PM  

dustman81: Ms. Brewer, as you are an employee of the State of Arizona, the taxpayers of Arizona would like to know about your contraception use.


Her face and attitude...
 
2012-05-13 03:55:54 PM  
OK, what the flying fark is wrong with this woman?
 
2012-05-13 03:57:23 PM  

Xaxor: OK, what the flying fark is wrong with this woman?


She's a Republican.
 
2012-05-13 03:57:25 PM  

dustman81: Weaver95: the sexual harassement lawsuits that this is going to generate will be EPIC!

Not to mention the HIPAA lawsuits.


ooo! good point!

so between sexual harrassement lawsuits and HIPPA violations, an employer is looking at paying a VERY steep price for harassing the office slut brigade.
 
2012-05-13 03:58:10 PM  

Xaxor: OK, what the flying fark is wrong with this woman?


at a guess? she's just evil. it happens.
 
2012-05-13 04:00:06 PM  
The better question is what is wrong with Arizona for electing her in the first place.

/former Arizona resident
//yes, I got the Hells out
 
2012-05-13 04:03:58 PM  

hubiestubert: The better question is what is wrong with Arizona for electing her in the first place.


She wasn't.

Brewer previously served as Secretary of State of Arizona, from January 2003 until then-Governor Janet Napolitano resigned after being selected as Secretary of Homeland Security in January 2009. Brewer became Governor of Arizona as part of the line of succession, as determined by the Arizona constitution.
 
2012-05-13 04:04:22 PM  
i224.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-13 04:06:32 PM  

robmilmel: hubiestubert: The better question is what is wrong with Arizona for electing her in the first place.

She wasn't.

Brewer previously served as Secretary of State of Arizona, from January 2003 until then-Governor Janet Napolitano resigned after being selected as Secretary of Homeland Security in January 2009. Brewer became Governor of Arizona


She ran in 2010 against Terry Goddard and won.
 
2012-05-13 04:13:24 PM  
If this shiat isn't struck down as unconstitutional...

/how farking absurd
//nice little corporatocracy we've got going here, ya?
 
2012-05-13 04:14:14 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: She ran in 2010 against Terry Goddard and won.


For a minute, I forgot about the stupidity of the average Arizonian. Not that
Utah politicians are much better...
 
2012-05-13 04:17:31 PM  

gameshowhost: If this shiat isn't struck down as unconstitutional...

/how farking absurd
//nice little corporatocracy we've got going here, ya?


I don't see how this law is going to survive a court challenge. HIPPA regs alone would eat it alive. not to mention the whole sexual harassement thing. you do NOT want to be the creepy team lead who goes around to all the cute women in the office and asks them for intimate details of their sex lives. thats the sort of thing that gives the legal department nightmares.
 
2012-05-13 04:23:38 PM  
I blame the farking snowbirds retirees for this shiat. Seriously, Arizona was a nice place. Not now, huh?
 
2012-05-13 04:27:22 PM  

Weaver95: granted, i'm not a lawyer...but if employers don't ask male employees the same sorts of questions about their use of birth control, doesn't that invalidate this law? something something equal protection something something?


I don't really see this as a sexual harassment issue. The law permits them to do it, so I doubt you could sue them for doing it. Now if they pester the woman every day about it, or ask for more details past "Do you have a medical reason other than birth control for this pill?" then it could be.

Can HIPAA even take this down?

The Privacy Rule does not prevent your supervisor, human resources worker or others from asking you for a doctor's note or other information about your health if your employer needs the information to administer sick leave, workers' compensation, wellness programs, or health insurance.

I don't believe employers should be allowed to ask employees these types of questions, but not believing they should be allowed and it being against federal laws are two very different things.
 
2012-05-13 04:28:42 PM  
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2012-05-13 04:33:30 PM  

Ryan2065: I don't really see this as a sexual harassment issue. The law permits them to do it, so I doubt you could sue them for doing it. Now if they pester the woman every day about it, or ask for more details past "Do you have a medical reason other than birth control for this pill?" then it could be.


yeah, but you know as well as I do that a sexual harassement lawsuit effectively ends your career. win, lose...it doesn't matter. you sit down for a deposition in a sexual harassment case and thats it man, game over. its done. you might not lose your job but you aren't getting that corner office either.

I think that if my boss told me that I had to interrogate my female coworkers about their use of birth control, I'd refuse to do it without a formal request in writing detailing the reason for and scope of the questioning. I'd also demand that someone from legal be there to observe and comment.

that's just all kinds of icky. And according to those sexual harrassment presentations that corporate makes us watch every year, it's also harassement.
 
2012-05-13 04:35:11 PM  
Gov. Brewer, you are as bad person and you should feel bad.
 
2012-05-13 04:38:19 PM  

Weaver95: you do NOT want to be the creepy team lead who goes around to all the cute women in the office and asks them for intimate details of their sex lives.


speak for yourself :|
 
2012-05-13 04:49:03 PM  

Weaver95: granted, i'm not a lawyer...but if employers don't ask male employees the same sorts of questions about their use of birth control, doesn't that invalidate this law? something something equal protection something something?


I would say it's difficult to prove. Women use prescription medicines for birth control. Men can just buy them OTC or in the local vending machine, so they can lie much easier with leaving only a wrapper trail.

Equal protection under the law and privacy intrusion are key constitutional points though.
 
2012-05-13 04:50:31 PM  

Weaver95: you do NOT want to be the creepy team lead who goes around to all the cute women in the office and asks them for intimate details of their sex lives.


Don't worry. You get to ask the ugly ones, the fat ones, the old ones, the sick ones, and the disabled too.
 
2012-05-13 04:51:48 PM  

dustman81: Ms. Brewer, as you are an employee of the State of Arizona, the taxpayers of Arizona would like to know about your contraception use.


For birth control she uses this:
blogs-images.forbes.com

/wonder if her rapist son in the state mental hospital called her for Mother's Day...
 
2012-05-13 04:51:49 PM  
Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
 
2012-05-13 04:53:42 PM  

namegoeshere: Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Lather, rinse, repeat.


yeah, but if we don't slut shame women, then how can we stop them from being slutty?
 
2012-05-13 05:03:07 PM  
I had the potential to take a job in Arizona recently and I turned it down. Why? Becuase of shiat like this. You couldn't pay me to live, work, or even visit arizona anymore.

congratulations.
 
2012-05-13 05:06:28 PM  

dustman81: Ms. Brewer, as you are an employee of the State of Arizona, the taxpayers of Arizona would like to know about your contraception use.


ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
NICE ONE
 
2012-05-13 05:06:35 PM  

namegoeshere: Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Lather, rinse, repeat.


That goes against capitalism. Someone has to pay for it.
This is madness!
THIS...Is...AMERICA!
 
2012-05-13 05:06:51 PM  
Don't people know how to lie anymore? "No,sir,never."
 
2012-05-13 05:10:23 PM  

Weaver95: namegoeshere: Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

yeah, but if we don't slut shame women, then how can we stop them from being slutty?


Good God, man, why would you ever want to do that?
 
2012-05-13 05:12:27 PM  
Can you imagine Dwight Schrute being in charge of such interviews? Bwahahahaha!!!
 
2012-05-13 05:13:23 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Weaver95: namegoeshere: Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Health care should not be tied to employment.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

yeah, but if we don't slut shame women, then how can we stop them from being slutty?

Good God, man, why would you ever want to do that?


well not me personally...but the GOP seems to hate slutty women. Then they go around and talk about homosexuality...in loving detail....for days on end.

hmm. ya know...that implies some rather interesting things about the Republican party.
 
2012-05-13 05:14:59 PM  

Paris1127: dustman81: Ms. Brewer, as you are an employee of the State of Arizona, the taxpayers of Arizona would like to know about your contraception use.

For birth control she uses this:
[blogs-images.forbes.com image 400x273]

/wonder if her rapist son in the state mental hospital called her for Mother's Day...


I was thinking the same thing. Her face is excellent birth control.

I figure she's just a bitter jealous woman who can't get laid anymore. And now she is taking out her frustration all the women in her state who do get the dick.
 
2012-05-13 05:16:21 PM  

simplicimus: Don't people know how to lie anymore? "No,sir,never."


Unfortunately, there are lots of easily intimidated or just plain ignorant people out there who would never dream of rocking the boat. Their rights will be routinely violated because the employer holds all the power.
 
2012-05-13 05:17:44 PM  
Harlot? I havent heard that in a while.
 
2012-05-13 05:23:29 PM  
So to get reimbursed for contraceptives that are used for medical purposes as opposed to birth control, the person has to submit a claim to the health care services organization along with evidence that the prescription is for medical purposes as opposed to birth control. That sounds reasonable.
 
2012-05-13 05:27:56 PM  
Can we sell Arizona back to Mexico yet?
 
2012-05-13 05:30:27 PM  

SkinnyHead: So to get reimbursed for contraceptives that are used for medical purposes as opposed to birth control, the person has to submit a claim to the health care services organization along with evidence that the prescription is for medical purposes as opposed to birth control. That sounds reasonable.


Wait, the woman has to pay for the birth control first, and then be reimbursed later? That's BS. I figured they would be approved / denied at the pharmacy.

If this is really the way it works, it's just going to keep poor people from getting the medical care they need.
 
2012-05-13 05:34:50 PM  

SkinnyHead: So to get reimbursed for contraceptives that are used for medical purposes as opposed to birth control, the person has to submit a claim to the health care services organization along with evidence that the prescription is for medical purposes as opposed to birth control. That sounds reasonable.


no it doesn't.
 
2012-05-13 05:46:07 PM  

SkinnyHead: So to get reimbursed for contraceptives that are used for medical purposes as opposed to birth control, the person has to submit a claim to the health care services organization along with evidence that the prescription is for medical purposes as opposed to birth control. That sounds reasonable.


Please go away.
 
2012-05-13 05:51:29 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: I blame the farking snowbirds retirees for this shiat. Seriously, Arizona was a nice place. Not now, huh?


Not the ones from north of the border, even Alberta right wingers wouldn't have a lot of time for anyone diddling with heath care. Must be something in the water.
 
2012-05-13 05:57:54 PM  

SkinnyHead: So to get reimbursed for contraceptives that are used for medical purposes as opposed to birth control, the person has to submit a claim to the health care services organization along with evidence that the prescription is for medical purposes as opposed to birth control. That sounds reasonable.


Just so we're clear, despite trying to read that as I suspect you intended it, I can only read that in my sarcasm voice.
 
2012-05-13 05:58:30 PM  

simplicimus: Don't people know how to lie anymore? "No,sir,never."


Tha'ts not the point. It's no one's business whether someone uses contreception.
 
2012-05-13 06:01:40 PM  
Well yes, Republicans, I am apparently a dirty, filthy harlot. This explains why you're always trying to get me to "suck it" I suppose...
 
2012-05-13 06:03:02 PM  

Ambivalence: simplicimus: Don't people know how to lie anymore? "No,sir,never."

Tha'ts not the point. It's no one's business whether someone uses contreception.


I understand that. Just suggesting a work around.
 
2012-05-13 06:03:44 PM  
A month or so ago, I wrote about a bill in Arizona (HB 2625) that would permit employers to opt-out of the so-called birth control mandate and interrogate their female employees about their sexual practices, all in the name of "religious freedom tyranny":
 
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