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2012-05-13 08:03:43 PM
ruta: brap: Lipspinach: sno man: I wonder if this actually happened to any kids from the 80's?
Or if this eye doc bothered to check before coming out as an idiot.

- Former hairfarmer.

Yeah, I came in here to say "repeat from 1985". I remember being warned that the bangs-over-one-eye style would screw with your vision
Oh the eighties.


It would screw with mine. I didn't do the emo thing, just the rocker hair down to the middle of my back thing, bangs included. After a few years I got tired of the huge headaches (among other reasons) from one eye always having to refocus because my bangs got in front of one eye or the other. The duck-butt in the back, one super eye-lock in the front look in 1985 was lame, unless you were into Depeche Mode. I was more of a Def Leppard/Whitesnake type. Without the eyeliner others were copying.
 
2012-05-13 08:15:35 PM
He is incorrect.
And let this be a lesson to anyone using an optometrist for pediatric eye care.
 
2012-05-13 08:15:36 PM
croesius: sanriosucks: Oh great, a lazy eye thread.

As someone who has had to put up with having a lazy eye for 30 years, I can tell you the emo are not prepared to deal.

I gotta ask, and I apologize if this comes across as crass...

But do your sight pictures line up with mental balancing, or do you maintain two separate images you consciously have to manage?


Allow me to jump in here. One eye is dominant. I would guess our vision is slightly shifted to the right or left but it is one image. The other eye just goes along for the ride. It sucks for depth perception. I learned to control the muscle that brings the eye back to normal when I was a teenager so I can focus out of either eye (which can be helpful since one eye is near-sighted and the other far-sighted).
 
Skr
2012-05-13 08:20:30 PM
Doesn't affect cooking skills at least.
images1.wikia.nocookie.net


And a comically evil one from my childhood.
images.wikia.com
 
2012-05-13 08:36:15 PM
Easy solution. You spend one day like this:

media.animegalleries.net'

Then the day after you do this:

images5.fanpop.com

No problem!

images4.fanpop.com
 
2012-05-13 08:40:37 PM
Sim Tree: [img256.imageshack.us image 640x549]

HOW DARE YOU?! DON'T YOU KNOW THAT IMAGE IS ABLEIST??!!!!!

So Yamino says. Now *FIX* it.
 
2012-05-13 08:47:10 PM
www.hollywoodreporter.com


/What an Emo chick may look like
//I wouldn't get caught calling her emo
 
2012-05-13 08:54:27 PM
Dapper-doo cowlicks in the 50s turned these guys into relentless assholes so I guess it makes sense.
 
2012-05-13 08:54:31 PM
Lipspinach: sno man: I wonder if this actually happened to any kids from the 80's?
Or if this eye doc bothered to check before coming out as an idiot.

I don't think that particular hair-do was really around in the '80's.
It's fairly recent I believe.


Robert Smith would like to cure your misconceptions...
 
2012-05-13 08:55:01 PM
time for the "LOL" tag
 
2012-05-13 08:55:52 PM
img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com

L knows the secret is to put the emo swish in the middle.
 
2012-05-13 08:57:26 PM
blogs.riverfronttimes.com
 
2012-05-13 08:59:19 PM
croesius: sanriosucks: Oh great, a lazy eye thread.

As someone who has had to put up with having a lazy eye for 30 years, I can tell you the emo are not prepared to deal.

I gotta ask, and I apologize if this comes across as crass...

But do your sight pictures line up with mental balancing, or do you maintain two separate images you consciously have to manage?


Well, my eye only moves sometimes, and I have good vision in both eyes. The eye doctor years ago said I didn't have true lazy eye but rather exotrophia (but if your eyes don't track, for all intents and purposes that's lazy eye). When, though, my eye isn't tracking, and I can kind of tell, even when I'm not in front of a mirror (mainly when I'm drunk or tired), I've developed a depth perception based on what makes sense. Like, I can close one eye and still know that the mac truck in front of me is x number of feet away based on other "clues" my brain can figure out, rather than binocular vision.
 
2012-05-13 09:03:45 PM
i60.photobucket.com

Lazy eye? Really? THAT'S your main concern here?
 
2012-05-13 09:23:33 PM
sno man: Lipspinach: sno man: I wonder if this actually happened to any kids from the 80's?
Or if this eye doc bothered to check before coming out as an idiot.

I don't think that particular hair-do was really around in the '80's.
It's fairly recent I believe.

Robert Smith would like to cure your misconceptions...


Yup you got a point there. I guess I was wrong. I went to a lot of clubs in the 80s, I just don't remember the hair heh. Blessing in disguise?
 
2012-05-13 09:32:35 PM
Lipspinach: sno man: Lipspinach: sno man: I wonder if this actually happened to any kids from the 80's?
Or if this eye doc bothered to check before coming out as an idiot.

I don't think that particular hair-do was really around in the '80's.
It's fairly recent I believe.

Robert Smith would like to cure your misconceptions...

Yup you got a point there. I guess I was wrong. I went to a lot of clubs in the 80s, I just don't remember the hair heh. Blessing in disguise?


There is a lot of 80's fashion best forgotten...
 
2012-05-13 10:01:18 PM
media.screened.com
 
2012-05-13 10:06:54 PM
sno man: I wonder if this actually happened to any kids from the 80's?
Or if this eye doc bothered to check before coming out as an idiot.


Well, since these haircuts would be after the critical age for developing strabismus, the "doc" has as much scientific background as Steve Martin in "the Jerk."
 
2012-05-13 10:13:57 PM
blood_and_thunder: He is incorrect.
And let this be a lesson to anyone using an optometrist for pediatric eye care.


That's an interesting handle you have there...

Truthfully, an optometrist would be better for pediatric eye care than an ophthalmologist or pediatrician, unless the kid needs strabismus or retinal surgery.
 
2012-05-13 10:45:56 PM
sanriosucks: croesius: sanriosucks: Oh great, a lazy eye thread.

As someone who has had to put up with having a lazy eye for 30 years, I can tell you the emo are not prepared to deal.

I gotta ask, and I apologize if this comes across as crass...

But do your sight pictures line up with mental balancing, or do you maintain two separate images you consciously have to manage?

Well, my eye only moves sometimes, and I have good vision in both eyes. The eye doctor years ago said I didn't have true lazy eye but rather exotrophia (but if your eyes don't track, for all intents and purposes that's lazy eye). When, though, my eye isn't tracking, and I can kind of tell, even when I'm not in front of a mirror (mainly when I'm drunk or tired), I've developed a depth perception based on what makes sense. Like, I can close one eye and still know that the mac truck in front of me is x number of feet away based on other "clues" my brain can figure out, rather than binocular vision.


Have to concur here, my depth perception is pretty much spot on, even if one or the other of my eyes is closed. Nowadays either of my eyes can actually act as my dominant (though my right eye is dominant). Oddly enough, I have ended up reprogramming it so both my eyes can act as dominant (and the other lazy), which is only convenient due to my left eye having a better overall acuity (and it was the original lazy eye). Odd, I know.

I would say the biggest thing for me has not particularly been the fact my depth perception is hindered, but I've noticed that I become more lethargic when my lazy eye is more prominent. It's kind of a positive feedback system, when drunk/tired -> eye gets lazy. At the same time, when I'm just lazy, though well rested, and my eye goes lazy, I become more lethargic.

Didn't have it when I was a kid, but watching too much TV and playing too much video games late at night ended up with me closing one eye or the other to stay awake for longer periods of time 'on edge.' After a couple years of this I suppose it kinda just set in on its own. The only problem I actually have with it now is trying to stay focused, but I haven't gone to an ophthalmologist about it... yet.

Most people don't notice it, so I have a pretty minor case. Also, when you have one, people are afraid to ask (unless it's super obvious). Funny thing is, I do know when it's lazy, I can control when I don't want it to be, and if I ever look in a mirror, they always autocorrect.

/was an inside joke in high school
//not funny anymore
///whenever it's brought up now, I just say, "really?" and they get all ashamed
 
2012-05-13 10:46:11 PM
josefgabriel


2012-05-13 07:23:58 PM

Nobody has mentioned the most amazing lazy eye artist ever? With a haircut "sometimes covering one eye".


um...... I don't think Thom Yorke has a lazy eye, it's just that his eyelid was closed shut when he was born, he had multiple operations when he was growing up, and this is the best they could fix it after all that.

/anybody remember the magazine cover with him on it as his "ideal" / 'fixed' self?
 
2012-05-13 11:17:58 PM
i132.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-13 11:28:50 PM
JaaVaa: sanriosucks: croesius: sanriosucks: Oh great, a lazy eye thread.

As someone who has had to put up with having a lazy eye for 30 years, I can tell you the emo are not prepared to deal.

I gotta ask, and I apologize if this comes across as crass...

But do your sight pictures line up with mental balancing, or do you maintain two separate images you consciously have to manage?

Well, my eye only moves sometimes, and I have good vision in both eyes. The eye doctor years ago said I didn't have true lazy eye but rather exotrophia (but if your eyes don't track, for all intents and purposes that's lazy eye). When, though, my eye isn't tracking, and I can kind of tell, even when I'm not in front of a mirror (mainly when I'm drunk or tired), I've developed a depth perception based on what makes sense. Like, I can close one eye and still know that the mac truck in front of me is x number of feet away based on other "clues" my brain can figure out, rather than binocular vision.

Have to concur here, my depth perception is pretty much spot on, even if one or the other of my eyes is closed. Nowadays either of my eyes can actually act as my dominant (though my right eye is dominant). Oddly enough, I have ended up reprogramming it so both my eyes can act as dominant (and the other lazy), which is only convenient due to my left eye having a better overall acuity (and it was the original lazy eye). Odd, I know.

I would say the biggest thing for me has not particularly been the fact my depth perception is hindered, but I've noticed that I become more lethargic when my lazy eye is more prominent. It's kind of a positive feedback system, when drunk/tired -> eye gets lazy. At the same time, when I'm just lazy, though well rested, and my eye goes lazy, I become more lethargic.

Didn't have it when I was a kid, but watching too much TV and playing too much video games late at night ended up with me closing one eye or the other to stay awake for longer periods of time 'on edge.' After ...


Lots of people would call bullshiat on that being that you can't accurately see in 3D without that parallax between your eyeballs but there is evidence of that it does exist with various visual cues.

Oh yeah.. citation stuff and all that
 
2012-05-14 12:07:11 AM
fanbladesaresharp: JaaVaa: sanriosucks: croesius: sanriosucks: Oh great, a lazy eye thread.

As someone who has had to put up with having a lazy eye for 30 years, I can tell you the emo are not prepared to deal.

I gotta ask, and I apologize if this comes across as crass...

But do your sight pictures line up with mental balancing, or do you maintain two separate images you consciously have to manage?

Well, my eye only moves sometimes, and I have good vision in both eyes. The eye doctor years ago said I didn't have true lazy eye but rather exotrophia (but if your eyes don't track, for all intents and purposes that's lazy eye). When, though, my eye isn't tracking, and I can kind of tell, even when I'm not in front of a mirror (mainly when I'm drunk or tired), I've developed a depth perception based on what makes sense. Like, I can close one eye and still know that the mac truck in front of me is x number of feet away based on other "clues" my brain can figure out, rather than binocular vision.

Have to concur here, my depth perception is pretty much spot on, even if one or the other of my eyes is closed. Nowadays either of my eyes can actually act as my dominant (though my right eye is dominant). Oddly enough, I have ended up reprogramming it so both my eyes can act as dominant (and the other lazy), which is only convenient due to my left eye having a better overall acuity (and it was the original lazy eye). Odd, I know.

I would say the biggest thing for me has not particularly been the fact my depth perception is hindered, but I've noticed that I become more lethargic when my lazy eye is more prominent. It's kind of a positive feedback system, when drunk/tired -> eye gets lazy. At the same time, when I'm just lazy, though well rested, and my eye goes lazy, I become more lethargic.

Didn't have it when I was a kid, but watching too much TV and playing too much video games late at night ended up with me closing one eye or the other to stay awake for longer periods of time 'on edge ...


Of course using one eye inhibits your depth perception, but as you said, visual cues can compensate when that is compromised.

That was the whole point.
 
2012-05-14 12:48:09 AM
I'll just leave this here.....

Link

Not really NSFW, except a bit o'language.
 
2012-05-14 01:06:23 AM
Where was this optometrist when skaters/new wavers were doing this back in the 80's?
 
2012-05-14 01:14:56 AM
stealingisbad: Emos still exist? I thought they all evolved into hipsters.

What I came in here to say. Emo music and culture is dead, and I'm pretty happy about it.
 
2012-05-14 01:31:00 AM
I've had some sort of variation of that haircut since 1986 and my eyes are fine, well, I wear glasses but I think that's just normal aging. Oh and ruta's description of 80s mall hair was perfect, especially the flat part in the back. Those biatches (and yes, most of them were biatches) got up at 5am to do that to themselves. I knew then it was tacky and had no part of it.
 
2012-05-14 02:30:35 AM
I wish my lawn was emo, so it would cut itself.

Old, sure. Classic, yes.
 
2012-05-14 03:12:39 AM
JustHereForThePics: Hepburn

The woman in the picture is Veronica Lake.
 
2012-05-14 08:19:16 AM
Bathia_Mapes: JustHereForThePics: Hepburn

The woman in the picture is Veronica Lake.


But she was blind. Why would the haircut matter at that point?
 
2012-05-14 04:13:37 PM
Fano: blood_and_thunder: He is incorrect.
And let this be a lesson to anyone using an optometrist for pediatric eye care.

That's an interesting handle you have there...

Truthfully, an optometrist would be better for pediatric eye care than an ophthalmologist or pediatrician, unless the kid needs strabismus or retinal surgery.


Umm... No. Absolutely no. As a pediatric ophthalmologist, I have corrected hundreds of diagnostic and therapeutic errors made by optometrists. But believe what you will...
 
2012-05-14 06:03:13 PM
blood_and_thunder: Fano: blood_and_thunder: He is incorrect.
And let this be a lesson to anyone using an optometrist for pediatric eye care.

That's an interesting handle you have there...

Truthfully, an optometrist would be better for pediatric eye care than an ophthalmologist or pediatrician, unless the kid needs strabismus or retinal surgery.

Umm... No. Absolutely no. As a pediatric ophthalmologist, I have corrected hundreds of diagnostic and therapeutic errors made by optometrists. But believe what you will...


At least those errors were correctable.
 
2012-05-14 06:32:48 PM
Fano: blood_and_thunder: Fano: blood_and_thunder: He is incorrect.
And let this be a lesson to anyone using an optometrist for pediatric eye care.

That's an interesting handle you have there...

Truthfully, an optometrist would be better for pediatric eye care than an ophthalmologist or pediatrician, unless the kid needs strabismus or retinal surgery.

Umm... No. Absolutely no. As a pediatric ophthalmologist, I have corrected hundreds of diagnostic and therapeutic errors made by optometrists. But believe what you will...

At least those errors were correctable.


And a lot were not, resulting in permanent amblyopia.
 
2012-05-14 06:36:43 PM
blood_and_thunder: Fano: blood_and_thunder: Fano: blood_and_thunder: He is incorrect.
And let this be a lesson to anyone using an optometrist for pediatric eye care.

That's an interesting handle you have there...

Truthfully, an optometrist would be better for pediatric eye care than an ophthalmologist or pediatrician, unless the kid needs strabismus or retinal surgery.

Umm... No. Absolutely no. As a pediatric ophthalmologist, I have corrected hundreds of diagnostic and therapeutic errors made by optometrists. But believe what you will...

At least those errors were correctable.

And a lot were not, resulting in permanent amblyopia.


Where do you get your referrals from?
 
2012-05-14 06:42:45 PM
Fano: blood_and_thunder: Fano: blood_and_thunder: Fano: blood_and_thunder: He is incorrect.
And let this be a lesson to anyone using an optometrist for pediatric eye care.

That's an interesting handle you have there...

Truthfully, an optometrist would be better for pediatric eye care than an ophthalmologist or pediatrician, unless the kid needs strabismus or retinal surgery.

Umm... No. Absolutely no. As a pediatric ophthalmologist, I have corrected hundreds of diagnostic and therapeutic errors made by optometrists. But believe what you will...

At least those errors were correctable.

And a lot were not, resulting in permanent amblyopia.

Where do you get your referrals from?


Umm...
Pediatricians, ophthalmologists, optometrists.
Don't tell me you are saying I should feel beholden to optoms because they give me referrals.
And you are...?
 
2012-05-14 06:53:04 PM
blood_and_thunder: Fano: blood_and_thunder: Fano: blood_and_thunder: Fano: blood_and_thunder: He is incorrect.
And let this be a lesson to anyone using an optometrist for pediatric eye care.

That's an interesting handle you have there...

Truthfully, an optometrist would be better for pediatric eye care than an ophthalmologist or pediatrician, unless the kid needs strabismus or retinal surgery.

Umm... No. Absolutely no. As a pediatric ophthalmologist, I have corrected hundreds of diagnostic and therapeutic errors made by optometrists. But believe what you will...

At least those errors were correctable.

And a lot were not, resulting in permanent amblyopia.

Where do you get your referrals from?

Umm...
Pediatricians, ophthalmologists, optometrists.
Don't tell me you are saying I should feel beholden to optoms because they give me referrals.
And you are...?


I'm just curious, since you strongly implied that no one should take their child to an optometrist for eye care, so I was curious to see if you worked in a setting that had mostly m.d. referrals.
 
2012-05-15 02:33:01 AM
Blood_and_thunder, I am a pediatric optometrist that wonders how you might get any referrals from optometrists with such a ridiculously negative view. I personally have a very good relationship with the best local pediatric ophthalmologist.

...but believe what you will
 
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