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(Daily Telegraph)   Australian singer claims Alabama ripped off his song. Let's play the two tunes side by side and compare   (dailytelegraph.com.au) divider line 45
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2012-05-13 08:44:12 AM
unlikely tag takes Mother's Day off?
 
2012-05-13 09:51:31 AM
Generic sounding music has a way of sounding similar to other generic sounding music
 
2012-05-13 10:34:27 AM

Dead for Tax Reasons: Generic sounding music has a way of sounding similar to other generic sounding music


Definitely. That little chord progression has probably been happened upon countless times.
 
2012-05-13 11:23:45 AM
They are both equally bad. So maybe everyone should be sued.
 
2012-05-13 11:42:44 AM
You could compare it to any country song. That shiat all sounds the same.
 
2012-05-13 11:45:26 AM
The Banana Splits and the Bob Marley estate are looking on with interest.

/woy yo yo, tra la la la
 
2012-05-13 11:47:08 AM
Wierd, they both sound like Annies Song.
 
2012-05-13 11:49:04 AM
images.politico.com

"Alabama? That's that band that sings "Sweet Home Alabama right?"
 
2012-05-13 12:02:56 PM

falcon176: "Alabama? That's that band that sings "Sweet Home Alabama right?"


This is what Stupid ex-sister-in-laws actually believe.
 
2012-05-13 12:05:49 PM

falcon176: [images.politico.com image 605x328]
images.politico.com
"Alabama? That's that band that sings "Sweet Home Alabama right?"


"I don't listen to country music, but I do have friends who own large swaths of Nashville."
 
2012-05-13 12:20:05 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-13 12:30:50 PM
I don't like country, but if were on the jury, I'd say he got ripped off. It's not generic. The chord progression is almost identical, notation is the same, time is practically the same. Different key, but same song.
 
2012-05-13 12:40:23 PM
You feel up my senses...
 
2012-05-13 12:55:58 PM
Let's play the two tunes side by side and compare

I'd love to, but apparently your media player needs to pull content from multiple domains. And with 9 different tracking/adware scripts attempting to run on your site, I'm not inclined to allow any of your scripts to run.
 
2012-05-13 12:58:11 PM

U8D1EyedSnake: You feel up my senses...


You fill out my census...
 
2012-05-13 01:11:50 PM

GoodyearPimp: You could compare it to any country song. That shiat all sounds the same.


This thread is about a ripped off song, not how poor your ear is.
 
2012-05-13 01:15:06 PM
Interesting that he's suing his publisher, not Alabama.

There really is a limit to the number of chord progressions, isn't there. At least the progressions worth recording. This seems much more complicated than sampling issues.
 
2012-05-13 01:23:11 PM
Shouldn't he have sued, like, 30 years ago?
 
2012-05-13 01:24:17 PM
Sorry dude, you can't copyright a ii V I chord progression, it's been around since before your time, and it'll be around after mine. At least Alabama added a couple choruses with a IV V I to keep it vaguely interesting.

Sounds more to me like the guy is butthurt at his publishers about something else and wants their attention.

/Music Student
//Make more money behind the bar than as a musician
 
2012-05-13 01:25:06 PM

indarwinsshadow: I don't like country, but if were on the jury, I'd say he got ripped off. It's not generic. The chord progression is almost identical, notation is the same, time is practically the same. Different key, but same song.


Agreed-there's only so many chord progressions out there, but you have to do something different with them to make a song "yours". When you're writing a song, you're influenced by everything you hear, and you have to fight the urge to copy a melody. Tons of songs use a D-A-G progression, for example-but you can do a lot of things with those chords so songs don't sound similar. This guy appears to have been ripped off.
 
2012-05-13 01:30:19 PM

Poison: indarwinsshadow: I don't like country, but if were on the jury, I'd say he got ripped off. It's not generic. The chord progression is almost identical, notation is the same, time is practically the same. Different key, but same song.

Agreed-there's only so many chord progressions out there, but you have to do something different with them to make a song "yours". When you're writing a song, you're influenced by everything you hear, and you have to fight the urge to copy a melody. Tons of songs use a D-A-G progression, for example-but you can do a lot of things with those chords so songs don't sound similar. This guy appears to have been ripped off.


Man the melody goes up in the Alabama song, and the Lynne Hamilton song she goes down, there's not much similar in the melody but the first 2 bars. Plus Alabama added a chorus which the original song doesn't even have in it.
 
2012-05-13 01:32:08 PM
From TFA:
Alabama went to the top of the US charts in 1982 with its hit song Christmas In Dixie.

Sony had an expert examine the two songs in 2004, the document said.


Apparently, it takes a while for news to reach the Blue Mountains in Australia.
 
2012-05-13 01:33:04 PM

TexanBoy: Poison: indarwinsshadow: I don't like country, but if were on the jury, I'd say he got ripped off. It's not generic. The chord progression is almost identical, notation is the same, time is practically the same. Different key, but same song.

Agreed-there's only so many chord progressions out there, but you have to do something different with them to make a song "yours". When you're writing a song, you're influenced by everything you hear, and you have to fight the urge to copy a melody. Tons of songs use a D-A-G progression, for example-but you can do a lot of things with those chords so songs don't sound similar. This guy appears to have been ripped off.

Man the melody goes up in the Alabama song, and the Lynne Hamilton song she goes down, there's not much similar in the melody but the first 2 bars. Plus Alabama added a chorus which the original song doesn't even have in it.


People have been sued for less-be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
2012-05-13 01:59:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0hEi8zhmg&feature=youtube_gdata_playe r
 
2012-05-13 02:46:50 PM
Approves...

grandfatherslegacyads.com


Really subby... this has been going on for 2 years now.



//works in the biz - tv side.
 
2012-05-13 02:48:33 PM
American band? Aussie dude has no chance.

991.com

Wiki: The song prompted litigation involving the British group New Order. The band's single "Run 2" (1989) was the subject of a lawsuit brought by John Denver, who argued that its wordless guitar break was based on his "Leaving on a Jet Plane". An out-of-court settlement ensured that the song would never be re-released in its original form.[6]

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-13 04:28:23 PM

Looking to sue all these biatches making 'music' today.
www.earthpm.com
 
2012-05-13 04:30:11 PM
 
2012-05-13 05:08:03 PM
♫ You clog up my senses ♫
 
2012-05-13 08:45:52 PM
All songs are derivatives of "Louie Louie", even the ones that came before.
 
2012-05-13 09:54:22 PM
"Country" music died with Johnny Cash.

Most of it since has been just pop with drawl and twang.
 
2012-05-13 11:59:06 PM

DeaH: falcon176: [images.politico.com image 605x328]
[images.politico.com image 605x328]

images.politico.com

"Alabama? That's that band that sings "Sweet Home Alabama right?"

"I don't listen to country music, but I do have friends who own large swaths of Nashville."


"This reminds me of something funny that happened a while ago... My dad and I got our staff of attorneys together and sued this small family business into bankruptcy..."
 
2012-05-14 12:13:16 AM

Macular Degenerate: "Country" music died with Johnny Cash.

Most of it since has been just pop with drawl and twang.


I find country versus pop confusing. Some songs that top the country charts just sound like regular pop to me.

A good example is Elvis' singles Moody Blue and Way Down. Both did much better on the country singles chart than the pop chart. But to me they don't sound like country music at all - surely they're pop.
 
2012-05-14 10:16:12 AM
Waiting for Prince to sue One Direction or for Madonna to sue Lady Gaga.



whatever
 
2012-05-14 11:43:26 AM
Also strikingly similar:

Pharoah Sanders - "Astral Travelling" from 1971

Santana - "Eternal Caravan Of Reincarnation" (start listening at the 1:45 mark) from 1972
 
2012-05-14 01:26:19 PM
Nope....
 
2012-05-14 04:47:14 PM
The beginning notes of "Moonlight in Vermont" and"Autumn in New York" sound the same to me.

/ Yes, I sound old
 
2012-05-14 05:32:10 PM

Macular Degenerate: "Country" music died with Johnny Cash.

Most of it since has been just pop with drawl and twang.


Music evolves ya fossil. Also, that's proof positive you've never heard any Jason Aldean, Zac Brown, Trace Adkins, Eli Young Band, Lee Brice, etc etc etc.
 
2012-05-14 05:58:35 PM

bel4sucks: Macular Degenerate: "Country" music died with Johnny Cash.

Most of it since has been just pop with drawl and twang.

Music evolves ya fossil. Also, that's proof positive you've never heard any Jason Aldean, Zac Brown, Trace Adkins, Eli Young Band, Lee Brice, etc etc etc.


I have heard of these, but true country music, died in 2000, it matured as an art form in the 90's. The very few artist still putting out true traditional Country music, such as George Strait, are now considered a minority. At least half the music on the Country is being played on pop stations.

This is NOT accidental, as even George Strait is considered alternative country. You can thank Clear Channel for the BS on the radio now.
 
2012-05-14 07:13:36 PM

Macular Degenerate: "Country" music died with Johnny Cash.

Most of it since has been just pop with drawl and twang.


What about Jamie Johnson?


I do agree about the it being pop with a drawl and twang....there is REAL country out there. It's just not being played on country radio.
 
2012-05-14 09:14:11 PM

Artcurus: At least half the music on the Country is being played on pop stations.


So Lady A and Taylor Swift. Can you name I dunno, 40 or 50 others?

Since you talk like you're an expert, you want to define so called "true country music"?
 
2012-05-14 11:20:13 PM

bel4sucks: Artcurus: At least half the music on the Country is being played on pop stations.

So Lady A and Taylor Swift. Can you name I dunno, 40 or 50 others?

Since you talk like you're an expert, you want to define so called "true country music"?


90's-2000's only. I have most of these on 45 rpm.

Alan Jackson
Lorrie Morgan
Martina McBride
Brooks and Dunn
Wynona Judd
Pam Tillis
Reba McEntire
George Strait
Faith Hill
Garth Brooks
Shenandoah
Blackhawk
Archer Park
Some Taylor Swift, though she's more on Pop
Brad Paisley
Aaron Tippin
Clint Black
The Band Perry (both country/pop)
Lady A (more pop)
Blake Shelton
Dolly Parton
Delbert McClinton
The Judds
Ricky Van Shelton
Tanya Tucker
Chris Cagle
Brantley Gilbert
Doug Supernaw
Clay Walker
Chris Young (he's modern country music)
Luke Bryan
Tracy Lawrence
Robert Ellis Orrall
Ashton Shepard
Jason Aldean
The Wreckers
Carrie Underwood
Darin Norwood
Diamond Rio
Doug Stone
Sammy Kershaw
Eli Young Band
Zac Brown Band
Jake Owen
Jason Micheal Carroll
Joe Nichols
Joe Diffie
John Micheal Montgomery
Big and Rich (more Pop sound though)
Jeff Carson
Billy Dean
John Berry
Kathy Mattea
Kenny Chesney
Kellie Coffey
Ken Mellons
Lila McCann
Linda Davis
Little Big Town
Little Texas
Lonestar
Mark Chestnutt
Mark Collie
Miranda Lambert
Montgomery Gentry
Neal McCoy
Pat Green
Pin Monkey
Randy Travis
Rascall Flats
Rhett Atkins
Ricky Lynn Gregg
Rick Trevino
Richochet
River Road
Rodney Atkins
Sara Evans
Steve Holy
Susie Boguss
Sugarland
Terri Clark
Tim McGraw
Thompson Square (modern country)
Toby Keith (mostly modern country)
Tracy Byrd
Trick Pony
Trisha Yearwood
Tractors
Wade Hayes
Yankee Grey

In answer to your other question, I would have to research a little more. It's late and I'm tired. Again, I have almost 90% of these artist on 45 rpm.
 
2012-05-14 11:27:19 PM
Oh yeah.

Forgot about Lonestar
 
2012-05-15 01:10:10 AM
So all those country people are being played on top 40 radio. Gotcha.
 
2012-05-15 10:20:46 AM

bel4sucks: So all those country people are being played on top 40 radio. Gotcha.


Through the 90's and 2000's? Yes. I made that clear at the beginning of my post.


For instance, Lorrie Morgan-We Both Walk, March 13, 1991 top position 3
Brooks and Dunn-Boot Scoot Boogie- May 25, 1992 Top Position 1

You want to talk about true country music, compare Tracy Lawrence's Sticks and Stones to the Band Perry's If I Die Young, which is being played on both country and pop.

Tracy Lawrence is true country music, and would have not have been played on a pop station in the 90's. Very few country songs crossed over to pop, though John Micheal Montgomery I Swear, (December 13, 1993) was remade by All4One, which turned out to be a number one hit for them.
 
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