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(The Sun)   Senior British MP says "McParenting" is putting the lives of a generation at risk   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 84
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2012-05-13 09:12:02 AM
So the senior MP hates Scottish people?
 
2012-05-13 09:13:53 AM
From the look of her picture she could stand to skip a few McDonald's lunches herself.
 
2012-05-13 09:14:52 AM
Judging by her picture, it looks like this isn't a new phenomenon.
 
2012-05-13 09:15:27 AM
The shadow public health minister said children spent too much time eating chips, watching TV or on PlayStation 3the Atari 2600.

Fixed it for when I was 10. Maybe with a little anti-Dungeons and Dragons hype thrown in there, too.
 
2012-05-13 09:15:30 AM
I too like to get my diet advice from a obese person.
 
2012-05-13 09:19:25 AM
their knot dun with ewe, ireland. your going two get a beet down.
 
2012-05-13 09:20:20 AM

kenoshaillini: From the look of her picture she could stand to skip a few McDonald's lunches herself.


She's not fat, she's big-boned.
 
2012-05-13 09:23:24 AM
FTFA "The shadow public health minister...."

That's racist.
 
2012-05-13 09:24:26 AM
Honestly, if you're putting your kids on a Playstation 3 that probably should be considered abuse. Get them something decent.
 
2012-05-13 09:29:04 AM
I'll never understand politicians from any region/country/city trying to "protect children" from marketing or fast food by regulating the advertising or taking away Happy Meal toys. What ever happened to parents telling the little snowflakes "No"? It's easy. No. Nej. Nei. Nyet. Nee. Ei. Non. Nein. Perhaps they should simply teach the parents how to, you know, parent.

/ran through that whole series of "NO" words when my son was growing up
//he got the point
 
2012-05-13 09:41:18 AM
What's putting gerations of children at risk is the high rate of divorce in the U.K. and most other western nations. Not snacks and video games. A lot of these "think of the children" people NEVER talk about the devestating impact that divorce has among children and never will because giving either spouse a right to file without the other spouses consent fall right in line with the egalitarian ideology that all these people beleive in. No matter if 'no fault' (in America) has already proven a failure to millions of kids resulting in drug abuse, prison, teen pregnancies a so forth, none of those commie bastards will EVER admit their mistakes.
 
2012-05-13 09:44:31 AM
This is how you put a PS3 to proper use:

img526.imageshack.us

/pass the mustard
 
2012-05-13 09:46:22 AM
She's got a point. The junk food and Playstations are just a symptom of lazy parents who won't take responsibility for their children. However, point out that their kids are disrespectful little pukes who could use a good thwack in the head and they'll defend the little snowflakes to death. Why? Because admitting their kids are useless is admitting their parenting skills are useless.
 
2012-05-13 09:46:37 AM
Ive been saying this for years...only difference is that i dobt weigh 700lbs.

Learn how to cook actual food for your kids...you know...with actual vegetables.

I didnt know how to cook either, fwiw. I was a single dad, so i took a free class at a lical community college to learn how. Liked it so much, i decided to go to culinary school.

The problem is parents who convince themselves they are too busy/important to have to stand infront of a stove to feed their children good food.

If you cant identify all the ingredients by just looking at it...its not food btw...its some processed food-LIKE product manufactured to make you fat.
 
2012-05-13 09:51:28 AM

Tyranicle: What's putting gerations of children at risk is the high rate of divorce in the U.K. and most other western nations. Not snacks and video games. A lot of these "think of the children" people NEVER talk about the devestating impact that divorce has among children and never will because giving either spouse a right to file without the other spouses consent fall right in line with the egalitarian ideology that all these people beleive in. No matter if 'no fault' (in America) has already proven a failure to millions of kids resulting in drug abuse, prison, teen pregnancies a so forth, none of those commie bastards will EVER admit their mistakes.


I don't think living in an unhappy household where the parents are only together for the kids sake is a healthy environment, either. I just think that people are tired of having to "work" at parenting
 
2012-05-13 09:54:06 AM
No chicken and chips left ... Diane Abbott

Fixed.
 
2012-05-13 09:55:21 AM

cookiefleck: Tyranicle: What's putting gerations of children at risk is the high rate of divorce in the U.K. and most other western nations. Not snacks and video games. A lot of these "think of the children" people NEVER talk about the devestating impact that divorce has among children and never will because giving either spouse a right to file without the other spouses consent fall right in line with the egalitarian ideology that all these people beleive in. No matter if 'no fault' (in America) has already proven a failure to millions of kids resulting in drug abuse, prison, teen pregnancies a so forth, none of those commie bastards will EVER admit their mistakes.

I don't think living in an unhappy household where the parents are only together for the kids sake is a healthy environment, either. I just think that people are tired of having to "work" at parenting


Too damned bad...then dont have kids.

Once they're here, man (or woman) the fark up and be a PARENT. Not their friend or their buddy or their peer...a PARENT.

This includes cooking for them. Get used to it or get neutered.
 
2012-05-13 10:01:56 AM

whatshisname: However, point out that their kids are disrespectful little pukes who could use a good thwack in the head and they'll defend the little snowflakes to death. Why? Because admitting their kids are useless is admitting their parenting skills are useless.


You sound like a delight.
 
2012-05-13 10:06:06 AM

cookiefleck: Tyranicle: What's putting gerations of children at risk is the high rate of divorce in the U.K. and most other western nations. Not snacks and video games. A lot of these "think of the children" people NEVER talk about the devestating impact that divorce has among children and never will because giving either spouse a right to file without the other spouses consent fall right in line with the egalitarian ideology that all these people beleive in. No matter if 'no fault' (in America) has already proven a failure to millions of kids resulting in drug abuse, prison, teen pregnancies a so forth, none of those commie bastards will EVER admit their mistakes.

I don't think living in an unhappy household where the parents are only together for the kids sake is a healthy environment, either. I just think that people are tired of having to "work" at parenting


I think you've touched on it - all of these things people are complaining about, junk food, video games, TV, divorce, etc. aren't the PROBLEM, per se, they're the SYMPTOMS. The problem is that people are farking lazy. Problems in our marriage? Never mind that good relationships have to be WORKED at, let's just get a divorce. Easier. Kid is being a brat? Plop him in front of the TV, that'll shut him up. Easier. Don't feel like cooking? McDonald's is right up the street. Easier.

Get off your asses and LIVE, people. Real life isn't as easy as it is on TV.

/rant over
 
2012-05-13 10:07:12 AM

towatchoverme: whatshisname: However, point out that their kids are disrespectful little pukes who could use a good thwack in the head and they'll defend the little snowflakes to death. Why? Because admitting their kids are useless is admitting their parenting skills are useless.

You sound like a delight.


An absolutely correct delight, at that...
 
2012-05-13 10:10:40 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I'll never understand politicians from any region/country/city trying to "protect children" from marketing or fast food by regulating the advertising or taking away Happy Meal toys. What ever happened to parents telling the little snowflakes "No"? It's easy. No. Nej. Nei. Nyet. Nee. Ei. Non. Nein. Perhaps they should simply teach the parents how to, you know, parent.


If you don't know how to be a good parent, it's likely because you don't want to be a good parent -- so a government parenting education program isn't going to help you, either.

Biggest problem i see is parents who are nothing but overgrown kids. They want their toys, their time, their food ... it's all about them.

Being a parent is an unselfish, grown up job. You provide for the family FIRST. You put time into your kids FIRST. You eat well, you take care of yourself, you live your principles (whatever that means, for you), you get involved, you do good work at your job and in your community because your kids are watching.

Want unselfish, mature, responsible kids? Be an adult, yourself.
 
2012-05-13 10:13:53 AM
Diane Abbott was quite hot when she was younger. Sadly she looks like she's made too many trips to McD's herself.
 
2012-05-13 10:14:46 AM

stevejovi: An absolutely correct delight, at that...


Pfft ... cuffing a kid upside the head to get their respect is lazy-assed parenting, too.

It just turns your kids into authoritarian asshats later in life.

No thanks.
 
2012-05-13 10:19:54 AM

towatchoverme: stevejovi: An absolutely correct delight, at that...

Pfft ... cuffing a kid upside the head to get their respect is lazy-assed parenting, too.

It just turns your kids into authoritarian asshats later in life.

No thanks.


However, parents often talk about "kids nowadays" being bad or disrespectful...and THEY are the ones responsible for it.
 
2012-05-13 10:22:39 AM
Hmm, just when you thought things couldn't get any more stupid. McParenting? More like she's 78 years late, if the term latchkey kid was invented during WWII. People were probably ignoring their children's welfare long before that, though.
nihil sub sole novum
I wonder what the Romans called it, sisyphean snots?
 
2012-05-13 10:23:03 AM

cookiefleck: Tyranicle: What's putting gerations of children at risk is the high rate of divorce in the U.K. and most other western nations. Not snacks and video games. A lot of these "think of the children" people NEVER talk about the devestating impact that divorce has among children and never will because giving either spouse a right to file without the other spouses consent fall right in line with the egalitarian ideology that all these people beleive in. No matter if 'no fault' (in America) has already proven a failure to millions of kids resulting in drug abuse, prison, teen pregnancies a so forth, none of those commie bastards will EVER admit their mistakes.

I don't think living in an unhappy household where the parents are only together for the kids sake is a healthy environment, either. I just think that people are tired of having to "work" at parenting


The problem is that people are tired of having to "work" at relationships as well.
 
2012-05-13 10:23:10 AM
The problem with listening to any advice from Diane Abbott is that she's a lying, hypocritical racist biatch.
 
2012-05-13 10:25:01 AM

The more you eat the more you fart: Ive been saying this for years...only difference is that i dobt weigh 700lbs.

Learn how to cook actual food for your kids...you know...with actual vegetables.

I didnt know how to cook either, fwiw. I was a single dad, so i took a free class at a lical community college to learn how. Liked it so much, i decided to go to culinary school.

The problem is parents who convince themselves they are too busy/important to have to stand infront of a stove to feed their children good food.

If you cant identify all the ingredients by just looking at it...its not food btw...its some processed food-LIKE product manufactured to make you fat.


What are today's modern parents supposed to do? Facebook doesn't update itself, you know.
 
2012-05-13 10:26:34 AM

towatchoverme: Real Women Drink Akvavit: I'll never understand politicians from any region/country/city trying to "protect children" from marketing or fast food by regulating the advertising or taking away Happy Meal toys. What ever happened to parents telling the little snowflakes "No"? It's easy. No. Nej. Nei. Nyet. Nee. Ei. Non. Nein. Perhaps they should simply teach the parents how to, you know, parent.

If you don't know how to be a good parent, it's likely because you don't want to be a good parent -- so a government parenting education program isn't going to help you, either.

Biggest problem i see is parents who are nothing but overgrown kids. They want their toys, their time, their food ... it's all about them.

Being a parent is an unselfish, grown up job. You provide for the family FIRST. You put time into your kids FIRST. You eat well, you take care of yourself, you live your principles (whatever that means, for you), you get involved, you do good work at your job and in your community because your kids are watching.

Want unselfish, mature, responsible kids? Be an adult, yourself.


"Do as I say because that's as I do". That pretty much summed up my entire parenting philosophy. It's OK to be a big kid - I know I am - but you still have big girl (or boy) responsibilities and part of that is learning to say "no" and teach by example. I do see your point about government programs though. I guess I'll just start asking people with obese children if they realize their delicate snowflake has turned into a massive snowball. Then I'll run. I need the exercise.

/I'm just helpful that way
 
2012-05-13 10:26:57 AM

stevejovi: cookiefleck: Tyranicle: What's putting gerations of children at risk is the high rate of divorce in the U.K. and most other western nations. Not snacks and video games. A lot of these "think of the children" people NEVER talk about the devestating impact that divorce has among children and never will because giving either spouse a right to file without the other spouses consent fall right in line with the egalitarian ideology that all these people beleive in. No matter if 'no fault' (in America) has already proven a failure to millions of kids resulting in drug abuse, prison, teen pregnancies a so forth, none of those commie bastards will EVER admit their mistakes.

I don't think living in an unhappy household where the parents are only together for the kids sake is a healthy environment, either. I just think that people are tired of having to "work" at parenting

I think you've touched on it - all of these things people are complaining about, junk food, video games, TV, divorce, etc. aren't the PROBLEM, per se, they're the SYMPTOMS. The problem is that people are farking lazy. Problems in our marriage? Never mind that good relationships have to be WORKED at, let's just get a divorce. Easier. Kid is being a brat? Plop him in front of the TV, that'll shut him up. Easier. Don't feel like cooking? McDonald's is right up the street. Easier.

Get off your asses and LIVE, people. Real life isn't as easy as it is on TV.

/rant over


'fixin lazy', as far as parenting goes, is impossible for goverments to fix. What western countries can do is repeal the laws that allow only one parent to file for divorce. Go back to the old system of having both parents consent. That would greatly reduce the divorce rate, force parents to work out their problems and even increase the marriage rate and decrease the mean age at which women are giving birth (which was twenty seven last I checked).

It would also decrease the destructive scars left on children when a parent suddenly leaves their lives. Murder, rape, drug addiction, alcoholism and suicides would decrease as well.
 
2012-05-13 10:29:19 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I guess I'll just start asking people with obese children if they realize their delicate snowflake has turned into a massive snowball. Then I'll run. I need the exercise.

/I'm just helpful that way


Keyboard. You owe me one.

Well played.
 
2012-05-13 10:29:46 AM

Tyranicle: stevejovi: cookiefleck: Tyranicle: What's putting gerations of children at risk is the high rate of divorce in the U.K. and most other western nations. Not snacks and video games. A lot of these "think of the children" people NEVER talk about the devestating impact that divorce has among children and never will because giving either spouse a right to file without the other spouses consent fall right in line with the egalitarian ideology that all these people beleive in. No matter if 'no fault' (in America) has already proven a failure to millions of kids resulting in drug abuse, prison, teen pregnancies a so forth, none of those commie bastards will EVER admit their mistakes.

I don't think living in an unhappy household where the parents are only together for the kids sake is a healthy environment, either. I just think that people are tired of having to "work" at parenting

I think you've touched on it - all of these things people are complaining about, junk food, video games, TV, divorce, etc. aren't the PROBLEM, per se, they're the SYMPTOMS. The problem is that people are farking lazy. Problems in our marriage? Never mind that good relationships have to be WORKED at, let's just get a divorce. Easier. Kid is being a brat? Plop him in front of the TV, that'll shut him up. Easier. Don't feel like cooking? McDonald's is right up the street. Easier.

Get off your asses and LIVE, people. Real life isn't as easy as it is on TV.

/rant over

'fixin lazy', as far as parenting goes, is impossible for goverments to fix. What western countries can do is repeal the laws that allow only one parent to file for divorce. Go back to the old system of having both parents consent. That would greatly reduce the divorce rate, force parents to work out their problems and even increase the marriage rate and decrease the mean age at which women are giving birth (which was twenty seven last I checked).

It would also decrease the destructive scars left on children when a parent suddenly l ...


Never gonna happen. People are too narcissistic and self absorbed to sacrifice part of themselves for the benefit of others any more. The easy way out, unfortunately, will always win, regardless of the vows you once made.
 
2012-05-13 10:33:44 AM

towatchoverme: stevejovi: An absolutely correct delight, at that...

Pfft ... cuffing a kid upside the head to get their respect is lazy-assed parenting, too.

It just turns your kids into authoritarian asshats later in life.

No thanks.


Maybe YOUR kids, but I got cuffed upside the head regularly as a child when I was being a douche, and I certainly don't think my demeanor today comes close to being "authoritarian". The trick is that you issue some sort of punitive consequence, THEN explain what the child should have done instead. I continue to be amazed at how many people don't understand that.
 
2012-05-13 10:33:57 AM
towatchoverme: Being a parent is an unselfish, grown up job. You provide for the family FIRST. You put time into your kids FIRST. You eat well, you take care of yourself, you live your principles (whatever that means, for you), you get involved, you do good work at your job and in your community because your kids are watching.

SO MUCH THIS. And you teach. Constantly.

I have two goals each day for my daughter: To teach her something, and to wear her out. These have been my goals every day since she was a toddler.

I will admit, I take her to McDonald's for a happy meal and some playtime once every couple weeks. She knows it's a treat, she knows why, and she knows to use her polite words in the playland.
 
2012-05-13 10:40:39 AM

girljen: towatchoverme: Being a parent is an unselfish, grown up job. You provide for the family FIRST. You put time into your kids FIRST. You eat well, you take care of yourself, you live your principles (whatever that means, for you), you get involved, you do good work at your job and in your community because your kids are watching.

SO MUCH THIS. And you teach. Constantly.

I have two goals each day for my daughter: To teach her something, and to wear her out. These have been my goals every day since she was a toddler.

I will admit, I take her to McDonald's for a happy meal and some playtime once every couple weeks. She knows it's a treat, she knows why, and she knows to use her polite words in the playland.


I have two small boys. Same goals. Especially the "wear 'em out" thing.
 
2012-05-13 10:40:58 AM
I wonder if she has any relatives in Florida politics who are interested in animal husbandry?
 
2012-05-13 10:43:17 AM

stevejovi: Maybe YOUR kids, but I got cuffed upside the head regularly as a child when I was being a douche, and I certainly don't think my demeanor today comes close to being "authoritarian". The trick is that you issue some sort of punitive consequence, THEN explain what the child should have done instead. I continue to be amazed at how many people don't understand that.


So your approach to moral education is to wait for them to do something wrong ... give them a whack upside the brain-box when they do ... and then tell them what they did wrong?

Yeah, i'm not taking your advice. Thanks, though.
 
2012-05-13 10:43:30 AM

Wow. Could The Sun be any more obvious in their classic "Pick horrific picture. Ugly people are always wrong!" tactic.

What she actually looks like:

www.bbc.co.uk


Picture they chose:

img.thesun.co.uk


Pretty good for a woman edging 60.
 
2012-05-13 10:52:30 AM

towatchoverme: stevejovi: Maybe YOUR kids, but I got cuffed upside the head regularly as a child when I was being a douche, and I certainly don't think my demeanor today comes close to being "authoritarian". The trick is that you issue some sort of punitive consequence, THEN explain what the child should have done instead. I continue to be amazed at how many people don't understand that.

So your approach to moral education is to wait for them to do something wrong ... give them a whack upside the brain-box when they do ... and then tell them what they did wrong?

Yeah, i'm not taking your advice. Thanks, though.


Good. I'll be counselling your kids through rehab one day. Job security.
 
2012-05-13 10:54:46 AM

towatchoverme: stevejovi: Maybe YOUR kids, but I got cuffed upside the head regularly as a child when I was being a douche, and I certainly don't think my demeanor today comes close to being "authoritarian". The trick is that you issue some sort of punitive consequence, THEN explain what the child should have done instead. I continue to be amazed at how many people don't understand that.

So your approach to moral education is to wait for them to do something wrong ... give them a whack upside the brain-box when they do ... and then tell them what they did wrong?

Yeah, i'm not taking your advice. Thanks, though.


That's the protocol for corrective action, which is but a tiny facet of the educational process. But if I was able to help you feel better about your own approach, by all means, sleep well, Buttercup.
 
2012-05-13 10:59:57 AM
Calm happy parents produce calm happy children. 90% of child learning is based on mirroring.

Want your kid to say thankyou? Make sure you always do (not by shouting at them when they don't.)

Angry shouting parents that whack their kids produce angry shouting children that whack people when angry. It's a vicious circle.
 
2012-05-13 11:01:43 AM

Bungles: Calm happy parents produce calm happy children. 90% of child learning is based on mirroring.

Want your kid to say thankyou? Make sure you always do (not by shouting at them when they don't.)

Angry shouting parents that whack their kids produce angry shouting children that whack people when angry. It's a vicious circle.


Sorry, I only take parenting advice from people that don't have children.
 
2012-05-13 11:02:45 AM
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  2012-05-13 10:19:54 AM  
towatchoverme: stevejovi: An absolutely correct delight, at that...

Pfft ... cuffing a kid upside the head to get their respect is lazy-assed parenting, too.

It just turns your kids into authoritarian asshats later in life.

No thanks.

However, parents often talk about "kids nowadays" being bad or disrespectful...and THEY are the ones responsible for it.


Ahh, another one of those people that doesn't understand the difference between a cuffing and a "cuffing to a basement bed being rapped over and over for 30 years producing multiple children for your dad."
 
2012-05-13 11:03:35 AM

stevejovi: towatchoverme: stevejovi: An absolutely correct delight, at that...

Pfft ... cuffing a kid upside the head to get their respect is lazy-assed parenting, too.

It just turns your kids into authoritarian asshats later in life.

No thanks.

Maybe YOUR kids, but I got cuffed upside the head regularly as a child when I was being a douche, and I certainly don't think my demeanor today comes close to being "authoritarian". The trick is that you issue some sort of punitive consequence, THEN explain what the child should have done instead. I continue to be amazed at how many people don't understand that.



You've become someone who thinks that hitting kids is OK, and you don't think being hit as a kid possibly created that? Most people who hit their wives also saw their fathers hit their mothers.
 
2012-05-13 11:09:53 AM

Bungles: stevejovi: towatchoverme: stevejovi: An absolutely correct delight, at that...

Pfft ... cuffing a kid upside the head to get their respect is lazy-assed parenting, too.

It just turns your kids into authoritarian asshats later in life.

No thanks.

Maybe YOUR kids, but I got cuffed upside the head regularly as a child when I was being a douche, and I certainly don't think my demeanor today comes close to being "authoritarian". The trick is that you issue some sort of punitive consequence, THEN explain what the child should have done instead. I continue to be amazed at how many people don't understand that.


You've become someone who thinks that hitting kids is OK, and you don't think being hit as a kid possibly created that? Most people who hit their wives also saw their fathers hit their mothers.


You do it your way, and I'll continue very occasionally open-hand single swatting my sons' clothed backsides as a corrective reset. 20 years from now, I'm confident I will have happy, well-adjusted productive young men. I hope you can say the same.
 
2012-05-13 11:13:10 AM

stevejovi: Bungles: stevejovi: towatchoverme: stevejovi: An absolutely correct delight, at that...

Pfft ... cuffing a kid upside the head to get their respect is lazy-assed parenting, too.

It just turns your kids into authoritarian asshats later in life.

No thanks.

Maybe YOUR kids, but I got cuffed upside the head regularly as a child when I was being a douche, and I certainly don't think my demeanor today comes close to being "authoritarian". The trick is that you issue some sort of punitive consequence, THEN explain what the child should have done instead. I continue to be amazed at how many people don't understand that.


You've become someone who thinks that hitting kids is OK, and you don't think being hit as a kid possibly created that? Most people who hit their wives also saw their fathers hit their mothers.

You do it your way, and I'll continue very occasionally open-hand single swatting my sons' clothed backsides as a corrective reset. 20 years from now, I'm confident I will have happy, well-adjusted productive young men. I hope you can say the same.



"You do it your way, and I'll continue to very occasionally open-hand single swatting my wife as a corrective reset."
 
2012-05-13 11:17:09 AM

Bungles: stevejovi: Bungles: stevejovi: towatchoverme: stevejovi: An absolutely correct delight, at that...

Pfft ... cuffing a kid upside the head to get their respect is lazy-assed parenting, too.

It just turns your kids into authoritarian asshats later in life.

No thanks.

Maybe YOUR kids, but I got cuffed upside the head regularly as a child when I was being a douche, and I certainly don't think my demeanor today comes close to being "authoritarian". The trick is that you issue some sort of punitive consequence, THEN explain what the child should have done instead. I continue to be amazed at how many people don't understand that.


You've become someone who thinks that hitting kids is OK, and you don't think being hit as a kid possibly created that? Most people who hit their wives also saw their fathers hit their mothers.

You do it your way, and I'll continue very occasionally open-hand single swatting my sons' clothed backsides as a corrective reset. 20 years from now, I'm confident I will have happy, well-adjusted productive young men. I hope you can say the same.


"You do it your way, and I'll continue to very occasionally open-hand single swatting my wife as a corrective reset."


Great. And we'll see who gets laid, and who has to fap to Foobies.

BTW, false equivalency is false.
 
2012-05-13 11:22:51 AM

stevejovi: Bungles: stevejovi: Bungles: stevejovi: towatchoverme: stevejovi: An absolutely correct delight, at that...

Pfft ... cuffing a kid upside the head to get their respect is lazy-assed parenting, too.

It just turns your kids into authoritarian asshats later in life.

No thanks.

Maybe YOUR kids, but I got cuffed upside the head regularly as a child when I was being a douche, and I certainly don't think my demeanor today comes close to being "authoritarian". The trick is that you issue some sort of punitive consequence, THEN explain what the child should have done instead. I continue to be amazed at how many people don't understand that.


You've become someone who thinks that hitting kids is OK, and you don't think being hit as a kid possibly created that? Most people who hit their wives also saw their fathers hit their mothers.

You do it your way, and I'll continue very occasionally open-hand single swatting my sons' clothed backsides as a corrective reset. 20 years from now, I'm confident I will have happy, well-adjusted productive young men. I hope you can say the same.


"You do it your way, and I'll continue to very occasionally open-hand single swatting my wife as a corrective reset."

Great. And we'll see who gets laid, and who has to fap to Foobies.

BTW, false equivalency is false.




It isn't a false equivalency.They were viewed as virtually identical in the Victorian period. It's just that one has faded quicker. There are a lot of people who view child-beating exactly the same as wife-beating today, in in 50 years no doubt everyone will.
 
2012-05-13 11:29:46 AM
Bungles, you are ridiculous. Child beating and wife beating is a different subject. We are talking about spacing your child. The fact that you dont see a difference between spanking your child and beating your wife leaves you unqualified for.not only this discussion, but to vote
 
2012-05-13 11:38:52 AM

stevejovi: Great. And we'll see who gets laid, and who has to fap to Foobies.


Yeesh ... and here i bit, right away.

Next time lead with something this obvious. Your initial trolling was too subtle.
 
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