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2012-05-13 01:45:49 AM
Maybe that's because not all locales are suitable for growing wine grapes.
 
2012-05-13 01:49:39 AM
Northern California, France, and Italy would like to have a word with whoever makes this assertion.
 
2012-05-13 01:50:07 AM
Because wine can't come from everywhere.
 
2012-05-13 01:59:42 AM
kmmontandon: Northern California, France, and Italy would like to have a word with whoever makes this assertion.

As would Oregon.
 
2012-05-13 02:16:58 AM
Like mentioned, a lot of locations just can't make good wine.

But most cities have resturants that are 'brew pubs' with on-site brewery--or a close local source for beer.
 
2012-05-13 02:18:15 AM
Because a lot of people won't drink Château de Chattanooga.
 
2012-05-13 02:52:02 AM
Bathia_Mapes: kmmontandon: Northern California, France, and Italy would like to have a word with whoever makes this assertion.

As would Oregon.


Washington State here and I'm wondering wtf the blogger is talking about. As was mentioned, some regions aren't known for good wine grapes but this clearly is a personal issue for this guy.
 
2012-05-13 04:06:43 AM
AbbeySomeone: Bathia_Mapes: kmmontandon: Northern California, France, and Italy would like to have a word with whoever makes this assertion.

As would Oregon.

Washington State here and I'm wondering wtf the blogger is talking about. As was mentioned, some regions aren't known for good wine grapes but this clearly is a personal issue for this guy.



I don't think this blogger has a clue about wine nor wine grapes.
 
2012-05-13 04:32:48 AM
Gee, a stay at home mom from South Jersey doesn't know why more restaurants in her area serve local wines.

Plus, she loves the word 'locavore.'
 
2012-05-13 04:33:54 AM
propasaurus: Gee, a stay at home mom from South Jersey doesn't know why more restaurants in her area don't serve local wines.

Plus, she loves the word 'locavore.'


FTFM
 
2012-05-13 07:55:12 AM
Trust me, don't pass up on the Mississippi Muscadine for your next fine meal.
 
2012-05-13 08:29:59 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-13 08:36:03 AM
Because people think local food is better but most local wine people usually think is bad.
 
2012-05-13 08:41:11 AM
Every microbrewery everywhere frowns at this article's shenanigans.
 
2012-05-13 08:51:33 AM
"This delightful Boysenberry Merlot has overtones of orange tanning cream, discarded Trump Taj Mahal chips, IROC-Z exhaust and nearly 100 years of spilled PCBs. Goes perfectly with a fistfight in the alley behind a Sea Isle City."
 
2012-05-13 09:07:26 AM
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Every microbrewery everywhere frowns at this article's shenanigans.

Do microbrews usually use local hops?
 
2012-05-13 09:28:26 AM
Yeah, I'm partial to a nice Ottawa Orvieto.
 
2012-05-13 10:12:08 AM
The carrots and tomatoes grown at the farm down the street aren't likely to be too different from carrots and tomatoes grown everywhere else. But wines vary greatly based on a number of variables.
 
2012-05-13 10:12:26 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: "This delightful Boysenberry Merlot has overtones of orange tanning cream, discarded Trump Taj Mahal chips, IROC-Z exhaust and nearly 100 years of spilled PCBs. Goes perfectly with a fistfight in the alley behind a Sea Isle City."

I have no idea why you weren't already favorited in a nice pretty color, but that comment sealed the deal. Um...let's not toast with some of the local vintage.
 
2012-05-13 10:14:24 AM
My wife's restaurant serves both. Nyea.
 
2012-05-13 10:14:29 AM
GAT_00: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Every microbrewery everywhere frowns at this article's shenanigans.

Do microbrews usually use local hops?


Or local malts?
 
2012-05-13 10:14:31 AM
But you'll find that nasty ass Sam Adams crap in every place you go to. Even stuff on the menu has "Sam Adams" glaze or something like it.

Restaurants in this area don't have any food that's local unless they bought some of the ingredients at the local grocery store who got it from some other place in the country.
 
2012-05-13 10:14:42 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: "This delightful Boysenberry Merlot has overtones of orange tanning cream, discarded Trump Taj Mahal chips condoms, IROC-Z exhaust and nearly 100 years of spilled PCBs. Goes perfectly with a fistfight in the alley behind a Sea Isle City."

FTFY. Come on, no one throws away casino chips.
 
2012-05-13 10:15:09 AM

propasaurus


Gee, a stay at home mom from South Jersey doesn't know why more restaurants in her area serve local wines.


"Should we have the Camden Cabernet or the Meadowlands Merlot?"
 
2012-05-13 10:16:43 AM
I live in Ontario. Niagara wine is freaking everywhere. It's not terrible, but I like a wider selection of wines. Wines vary wildly from region to region. Apples? Beef? Not quite so much.
 
2012-05-13 10:18:07 AM
There's a "fruit winery" just up the road from me.

Their stuff tastes like someone threw a car air freshener in a blender.
 
2012-05-13 10:20:36 AM
bim1154: Restaurants in this area don't have any food that's local unless they bought some of the ingredients at the local grocery store who got it from some other place in the country.

It's pretty hard to do local foods as a restaurant. First, you have to build direct relations with farmers. Then you have to have a small, versatile menu that changes with the seasons. Lastly, you need someone prepared to spend the premium associated with doing this. That puts your restaurant into the upper-mid range ($50 a plate plus drinks).

How many restaurants in that price range succeed? The restaurant business has one of the highest startup failure rates of any business.
 
2012-05-13 10:21:09 AM
Bathia_Mapes: Maybe that's because not all locales are suitable for growing wine grapes.

This

I suspect the author has a New Yorker view of the US.

upload.wikimedia.org

There are entire swaths of the continent outside their recognition.

I'll bet she thinks corn just shows up, with the stork that brought her baby sister.
 
2012-05-13 10:21:44 AM
Vermont does both.
Local for the win.
 
2012-05-13 10:23:09 AM
Honestly, my favorite merlot is from Forks of the Cheat in West Virginia. Grapes grow everywhere. And I think most of those people who taste "hints of nutmeg and cinnamon" in a beverage are lying.
 
2012-05-13 10:24:42 AM
Tube Tops!!
 
2012-05-13 10:25:55 AM
Link

Not a huge fan, but some of it is quite good. I'm never going to give up the Astley white wine....

/seriously, I have a bottle in the fridge right now
 
2012-05-13 10:29:27 AM
Because the wine around here sucks.

Finger Lakes, New York.
 
2012-05-13 10:29:27 AM
In what part of Napa is Boone's Farm?
 
2012-05-13 10:29:58 AM
AbbeySomeone: Washington State here and I'm wondering wtf the blogger is talking about. As was mentioned, some regions aren't known for good wine grapes but this clearly is a personal issue for this guy.

Local food advocates have just as much grasp of reality as a Ron Paul supporters.

/Minnesota has locally made wine - and it sucks
 
2012-05-13 10:31:08 AM
Because, regardless of what local grape growers and local vintners might think, a lot of regional wines are just aren't that good. And the ones that are good are probably using grapes trucked in from CA, which pretty much undoes the "localness" and at that point, you might as well use the wines trucked in from CA.

I've tasted a lot of local wines and for the most part, they only do sweet white wines halfway decently. Most regional reds are rose or very sweet, incredibly light-body Pinot-style reds. Stuff that really doesn't go great with dinner. Dessert maybe.
 
2012-05-13 10:32:21 AM
I've had wine from south NJ and PA, and it's terrible, harsh, weak and acidic. You're not going to get locally sourced saki or vodka in south Jersey either so maybe you should seek out local beer (Yeungling is within about 100 miles or so at the very least) or cider (lots of orchards in NJ) instead? Sorry is common sense too common?
 
2012-05-13 10:34:29 AM
Bathia_Mapes: kmmontandon: Northern California, France, and Italy would like to have a word with whoever makes this assertion.

As would Oregon.


And Washington.
 
2012-05-13 10:35:18 AM
Well, if your local wine is shiat then do not serve it.
 
2012-05-13 10:35:18 AM
I sure wish we could get Ohio, NY and Pennsylvania wines down here in Florida.
 
2012-05-13 10:38:21 AM
tomWright: Bathia_Mapes: Maybe that's because not all locales are suitable for growing wine grapes.

This

I suspect the author has a New Yorker view of the US.

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There are entire swaths of the continent outside their recognition.

I'll bet she thinks corn just shows up, with the stork that brought her baby sister.


imgc.allpostersimages.com
 
2012-05-13 10:38:35 AM
Can a locavore in Idaho just forgo the wine and drink vodka?
 
2012-05-13 10:39:30 AM
GAT_00: Because people think local food is better but most local wine people usually think is bad.

I tried several wines when I visited a friend in Carbondale, Illinois, but I'll be damned if I ever had one that tasted good. Too much like Boone's.
 
2012-05-13 10:42:06 AM
EbolaNYC: I've had wine from south NJ and PA, and it's terrible, harsh, weak and acidic. You're not going to get locally sourced saki or vodka in south Jersey either so maybe you should seek out local beer (Yeungling is within about 100 miles or so at the very least) or cider (lots of orchards in NJ) instead? Sorry is common sense too common?

This is a good point.

Maybe in NJ, not just apple wine, bu also a fruit wine made from blueberries would be better?

If you really want local, use what can grow locally, don't try to force crops that do not do well to grow locally.
 
2012-05-13 10:43:19 AM
Local food doesn't usually taste worse than non-local food. The same can't be said for wine.
 
2012-05-13 10:44:19 AM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Because a lot of people won't drink Château de Chattanooga.

Ha, I see what you did there
 
2012-05-13 10:46:13 AM
tomWright: EbolaNYC: I've had wine from south NJ and PA, and it's terrible, harsh, weak and acidic. You're not going to get locally sourced saki or vodka in south Jersey either so maybe you should seek out local beer (Yeungling is within about 100 miles or so at the very least) or cider (lots of orchards in NJ) instead? Sorry is common sense too common?

This is a good point.

Maybe in NJ, not just apple wine, bu also a fruit wine made from blueberries would be better?


Hard cider and applejack can be nice on occasion. I've never had any blueberry wine, though. Sounds interesting. :)
 
2012-05-13 10:47:30 AM
MD has a number of decent local wineries, though I know to get a full range of flavors they blend with CA wine often. (aka, certain grapes grow here well, but if you want a merot and a pinot and a zinfandel, it isn't going to happen).

There are restaurants that serve local wine, but half the time you can't even find it in liquor stores. End up having to buy directly from the winery.
 
2012-05-13 10:48:14 AM
GAT_00: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Every microbrewery everywhere frowns at this article's shenanigans.

Do microbrews usually use local hops?


Sierra Nevada grows hops on their campus, and every WA brewery uses local hops by definition. Unless you are trying to reproduce a specific style e.g. a German pils no need to use imported hops.

Barley is grown in the US and Canasa, but it's the malting company you are buying it from. It's coming from wherever they are. And again if you are doing something specific, you generally don't need imported malt.
 
2012-05-13 10:51:20 AM
Katie98_KT: MD has a number of decent local wineries, though I know to get a full range of flavors they blend with CA wine often. (aka, certain grapes grow here well, but if you want a merot and a pinot and a zinfandel, it isn't going to happen).

Here is my favorite:

www.loomer.com
I am so totally kidding here.
 
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