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(AZCentral)   Now it's getting interesting: Ron Paul supporters boo Mitt Romney's son off the stage at the Arizona Republican Party convention. "The white Obama"   (azcentral.com) divider line 383
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2012-05-13 08:28:39 AM  
Heh. Arizona just might be in play for the general election.
 
2012-05-13 08:44:22 AM  
"The White Obama". That's got a nice ring to it.
 
2012-05-13 08:53:38 AM  
Non-story: over zealous Paulites.
 
2012-05-13 08:57:45 AM  
Why do republicans always have to play the race card?
 
2012-05-13 08:58:10 AM  
Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.

cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com
 
2012-05-13 08:58:46 AM  

Edsel: Non-story: over zealous Paulites.


There are other kinds of Paulites?
 
2012-05-13 09:00:28 AM  
Isn't this exactly the sort of thing Reagan expressly forbade?
 
2012-05-13 09:06:36 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.

[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]


Reminds me of that gigalo robot in that movie AI.
 
2012-05-13 09:08:02 AM  

Alphax: PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.

[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]

Reminds me of that gigalo robot in that movie AI.


He's a rogue AI from a future where everyone is a Chippendale's dancer.
 
2012-05-13 09:10:01 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.

[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]


It's like a weird crossbreeding between Peter O'Toole and Lurch.
 
2012-05-13 09:11:07 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Alphax: PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.

[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]

Reminds me of that gigalo robot in that movie AI.

He's a rogue AI from a future where everyone is a Chippendale's dancer.


I feel kind of bad to say it, but he looks a bit like a Terminator in that picture. The taught skin and the chiseled facial structures leave me suspecting that there might be a shiny metal skeleton under that thin layer of flesh.
 
2012-05-13 09:11:20 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.


Damn, he could put someone's eye out with that jaw.
 
2012-05-13 09:11:36 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.


honeywine.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-05-13 09:11:57 AM  
Good, yes, split the vote. Spliiiiiiit.
 
2012-05-13 09:11:58 AM  
It will essentially be the same software but they promise that they will have 3 new types of font with this version.
 
2012-05-13 09:12:53 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.

[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]


Uncanny valley
 
2012-05-13 09:13:00 AM  

casual disregard: PonceAlyosha: Alphax: PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.

[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]

Reminds me of that gigalo robot in that movie AI.

He's a rogue AI from a future where everyone is a Chippendale's dancer.

I feel kind of bad to say it, but he looks a bit like a Terminator in that picture. The taught skin and the chiseled facial structures leave me suspecting that there might be a shiny metal skeleton under that thin layer of flesh.


ox45tallboy: PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.

Damn, he could put someone's eye out with that jaw.


I'm kind of convinced the Mormons are doing some Bene gesserit breeding program shiat to create their idea of the Perfect President (Prophet).
 
2012-05-13 09:13:28 AM  
Rachel Maddow has been on top of this for a while.

It seems that the actual Republican primaries/caucuses in many states aren't binding, but rather the delegates are chosen by Republican party activists at their state conventions. (I guess the voters are just offering up "suggestions" of who the party elites should choose.)

Anyway, the Paulites are turning up in force at the state conventions and have actually "turned" a couple of states to Paul (states which otherwise were "won" by Santorum or Romney.)

All he needs is 5 and the guy can basically hold the national convention hostage. Something tells me that this isn't going to be the gather around Romney and throw him our full support "love fest" that many think it will be. I wouldn't be surprised to see some violence break out on the floor of the Republican National Convention and the entire thing be a semi-fiasco. Romney will win, undoubtedly, but the Paul forces will throw every monkey wrench into the works they can get their hands on.
 
2012-05-13 09:16:15 AM  

lawboy87: It seems that the actual Republican primaries/caucuses in many states aren't binding, but rather the delegates are chosen by Republican party activists at their state conventions. (I guess the voters are just offering up "suggestions" of who the party elites should choose.)


This sounds like an astonishingly stupid system if it is true. Why the fark did you have primaries at all if they can just be overruled by more interested and better organized thugs?
 
2012-05-13 09:17:44 AM  
This is bad news, for Obama
 
2012-05-13 09:19:08 AM  
What is it about Paul that gets his supporters in to this fervor?

A friend of mine quit his (very nice) programming job in New York to follow the Paul campaign. He even moved to DC to help the campaign before getting another job at his mother's insistence.

Never in a million years could I see myself liking a political candidate enough to quit my job and follow around.
 
2012-05-13 09:21:18 AM  

casual disregard: lawboy87: It seems that the actual Republican primaries/caucuses in many states aren't binding, but rather the delegates are chosen by Republican party activists at their state conventions. (I guess the voters are just offering up "suggestions" of who the party elites should choose.)

This sounds like an astonishingly stupid system if it is true. Why the fark did you have primaries at all if they can just be overruled by more interested and better organized thugs?


Democracy! Woo!
 
2012-05-13 09:24:01 AM  

casual disregard: lawboy87: It seems that the actual Republican primaries/caucuses in many states aren't binding, but rather the delegates are chosen by Republican party activists at their state conventions. (I guess the voters are just offering up "suggestions" of who the party elites should choose.)

This sounds like an astonishingly stupid system if it is true. Why the fark did you have primaries at all if they can just be overruled by more interested and better organized thugs?


You do realize it's modeled directly after the Electoral College system that we use to elect the President in the general election, right? When you vote for President in the general, you're voting for electors, not the actual candidate. Most states require the electors to vote for the candidate they have said they would support, but not all.
 
2012-05-13 09:24:04 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Alphax: PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.

[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]

Reminds me of that gigalo robot in that movie AI.

He's a rogue AI from a future where everyone is a Chippendale's dancer.


PUNCH MCROCKGROIN
 
2012-05-13 09:24:13 AM  
"Maybe it's going to take getting behind somebody we weren't so excited about. ... What I want is to save this country, and we've gotta do it together. None of us gets everything we want,"

Listen to that whole-hearted endorsement from the state party chair. There's electricity in the air about this election. Republicans are excited. This is bad news for Obama.
 
2012-05-13 09:25:03 AM  
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BULK VANDERHUGE
 
2012-05-13 09:26:11 AM  

casual disregard: This sounds like an astonishingly stupid system if it is true. Why the fark did you have primaries at all if they can just be overruled by more interested and better organized thugs?


Wow. Wait until you hear about how the electoral college works.
 
2012-05-13 09:27:38 AM  
*shakes fist at ox45tallboy*
 
2012-05-13 09:29:17 AM  
cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com
SMASH LAMPJAW
 
2012-05-13 09:29:41 AM  

lawboy87: It seems that the actual Republican primaries/caucuses in many states aren't binding, but rather the delegates are chosen by Republican party activists at their state conventions. (I guess the voters are just offering up "suggestions" of who the party elites should choose.)


Republicans can export democracy to Iraq, but they can't get it to work in Iowa.
 
2012-05-13 09:30:07 AM  

PonceAlyosha: [cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]


He looks more like Nigel Thornberry's son than Mitt Romney's.
 
2012-05-13 09:31:01 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: PonceAlyosha: [cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]

He looks more like Nigel Thornberry's son than Mitt Romney's.


If Christian Bale and Mickey Rourke had a baby, he would be that baby.
 
2012-05-13 09:34:07 AM  
keep it classy, GOP.
 
2012-05-13 09:36:22 AM  

ox45tallboy: casual disregard: lawboy87: It seems that the actual Republican primaries/caucuses in many states aren't binding, but rather the delegates are chosen by Republican party activists at their state conventions. (I guess the voters are just offering up "suggestions" of who the party elites should choose.)

This sounds like an astonishingly stupid system if it is true. Why the fark did you have primaries at all if they can just be overruled by more interested and better organized thugs?

You do realize it's modeled directly after the Electoral College system that we use to elect the President in the general election, right? When you vote for President in the general, you're voting for electors, not the actual candidate. Most states require the electors to vote for the candidate they have said they would support, but not all.


Garble: casual disregard: This sounds like an astonishingly stupid system if it is true. Why the fark did you have primaries at all if they can just be overruled by more interested and better organized thugs?

Wow. Wait until you hear about how the electoral college works.


Yeah, I know that. We vote for representatives to then vote for the candidate. And if they don't farking vote the way we vote, then their future political careers are ruined and they become social pariahs exiled to Barrow, Alaska. Or so it ought to be.

This is gangster shiat. Smoky backroom deals and total reversals of the public will. If you accept this as reality, you're the one living in a farking dream land. It can't continue forever and sooner or later it will break, and it will be painful. Or we could, I don't know, do something about it in advance? Surely won't though.
 
2012-05-13 09:37:10 AM  
It's not often that I can copy and paste from Redstate.com anything informative:

I haven't been on RedState in a while but I figure that I now is as good of a times as any to vent here about my frustrations today.

I've been a Mitt Romney supporter for a long time & I'm just returning home from being a delegate to the Arizona Republican Party State Convention where we picked our delegates to the Republican National Convention in Tampa, FL. The end of the meeting nearly descended into chaos as Ron Paul supporters showed up to the convention en masse and through their sophistry & subversive tactics had at least two of their delegates elected out of Arizona's 9 Congressional seats. Their tactics in Arizona were very similar to the successful tactics they deployed in Nevada recently, where they were able to get many Ron Paul supporters sent to the Republican National Convention.

Due to the extremely poor tactics of Nathan Sproul, the political consultant who is running Romney's Arizona campaign, Mitt Romney did not even have complete delegate slates available to help his higher number of Republican supporters present know who to support to combat the better organized & rabid Ron Paul supporters.

The election of National Committeewoman ended with no clear winner as the Ron Paul supporters nominated their candidate of choice from the floor in a vote that required a majority in order to win. The Paulista candidate ended up getting the highest number of votes as two traditional Republican candidates split the non-loony, non-Ron Paul support of the vast majority of delegates. But by that time it was getting so late that most Mitt Romney supporters had already left & Ron Paul's supporters were demanding that the run-off still be held. The Parliamentarian for the Arizona Republican Party ruled that there was no longer a quorum & in rapid succession it was moved to adjourn the meeting, where the run-off election for Republican National Committeewoman would be held by mail-in ballot instead. And the meeting was immediately adjourned by the State Party Chairman after this motion & with no vote. This made the Ron Paul supporters go crazy & they tried to take over the convention stage after the State Chairman called the meeting to a close by trying to say that the State Republican Party Chairman had abandoned his position by closing & leaving the meeting in a way that was against Arizona Republican Party bylaws.

There were multiple problems with the ballots & as mentioned above grievous tactical errors by the Arizona Romney campaign. What should have been a happy day in Arizona for Mitt Romney, who easily carried the Arizona Republican Party Primary on February 28, quickly spiraled out of their control. Ron Paul & his supporters really must want Barack Obama to win in November with how they all behaved today even though Congressman Paul himself was not present for today's turbulent & completely disorganized events.


If anyone has a running count of how many delegates RON PAUL actually has now, I would be really interested to see it as that might be useful to see what he's up to.
 
2012-05-13 09:37:18 AM  

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SMASH LAMPJAW


For some reason, I find myself having a strong urge to draw testicles on his chin.
 
2012-05-13 09:37:23 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.
[cdn03.cdnwp.thefrisky.com image 400x300]


I thought he was wearing an earring until I realized his skin is just that reflective.
 
2012-05-13 09:39:54 AM  

lawboy87: All he needs is 5 and the guy can basically hold the national convention hostage. Something tells me that this isn't going to be the gather around Romney and throw him our full support "love fest" that many think it will be.


I'm skeptical that Ron Paul will throw a wrench in Romney's machinery. Paulites are also a very loud minority who are probably just as likely to vote Republican as they are to not vote, so they're significance is over-exaggerated.
 
2012-05-13 09:42:17 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: lawboy87: All he needs is 5 and the guy can basically hold the national convention hostage. Something tells me that this isn't going to be the gather around Romney and throw him our full support "love fest" that many think it will be.

I'm skeptical that Ron Paul will throw a wrench in Romney's machinery. Paulites are also a very loud minority who are probably just as likely to vote Republican as they are to not vote, so they're significance is over-exaggerated.


Most of them are like RON PAU. They'll talk big, but when their vote might actually MATTER, they'll vote how the GOP tells them to.
 
2012-05-13 09:43:04 AM  

LordJiro: FeedTheCollapse: lawboy87: All he needs is 5 and the guy can basically hold the national convention hostage. Something tells me that this isn't going to be the gather around Romney and throw him our full support "love fest" that many think it will be.

I'm skeptical that Ron Paul will throw a wrench in Romney's machinery. Paulites are also a very loud minority who are probably just as likely to vote Republican as they are to not vote, so they're significance is over-exaggerated.

Most of them are like RON PAUL. They'll talk big, but when their vote might actually MATTER, they'll vote how the GOP tells them to.


Dammit.
 
2012-05-13 09:47:01 AM  

PonceAlyosha: Mitt Bot 2.0. When his dad fails, he'll try to to run in a decade or so.


And he'll only be three generations removed from a non-millionaire.
 
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2012-05-13 09:47:59 AM  

casual disregard: Isn't this exactly the sort of thing Reagan expressly forbade?


well, ron paul and his supporters aren't really republican.
 
2012-05-13 09:48:01 AM  

Danack: If anyone has a running count of how many delegates RON PAUL actually has now, I would be really interested to see it as that might be useful to see what he's up to.


http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates
http://projects.wsj.com/campaign2012/delegates

Both have the same numbers and, to my knowledge, are up to date.
 
2012-05-13 09:51:35 AM  
Enjoy your possibly brokered convention Republicans?
 
2012-05-13 09:53:22 AM  
Gee Josh. and you thought you knew your republican buddies. tell daddy, he'll fix it for ya'.


let 'em all eat themselves. works for me.
 
2012-05-13 09:54:09 AM  

A Terrible Human: Enjoy your possibly brokered convention Republicans?



they're letting the market work. *grin*
 
2012-05-13 09:57:57 AM  

bulldg4life: What is it about Paul that gets his supporters in to this fervor?

A friend of mine quit his (very nice) programming job in New York to follow the Paul campaign. He even moved to DC to help the campaign before getting another job at his mother's insistence.

Never in a million years could I see myself liking a political candidate enough to quit my job and follow around.



No kidding. My sister was hardcore on the Obama campaign last time around for her state and I occasionally made jokes about her 'drinking the kool aid' (I'm further to the left than she is so it was from that vantage point rather than a dig from the right), but when she was offered a job to work on the national campaign her response was something along the lines of 'uh, the economy sucks and I have a good job, if you think I'm going to give that up to follow some politician around you must be farking insane'.

I can't even see myself liking a political candidate enough to give money to him or her unless I know someone organizing the event (like my sister), which was the only way Obama got a few bucks out of me the last time around.

Paulites are weird.
 
2012-05-13 10:03:34 AM  

Ikam: Paulites are weird.


almost every Paulite i know can be summarized thusly

Believes conspiracy theories
Thinks Ayn Rand was right about economics
Has no idea half of the shiat Ron Paul actually says or does*



* because that man is no libertarian (little-l) - he is perfectly fine with your rights being shat all over as long as it is done at the state level and he actively wants to shiat over some rights
 
2012-05-13 10:03:55 AM  

Amnestic: casual disregard: lawboy87: It seems that the actual Republican primaries/caucuses in many states aren't binding, but rather the delegates are chosen by Republican party activists at their state conventions. (I guess the voters are just offering up "suggestions" of who the party elites should choose.)

This sounds like an astonishingly stupid system if it is true. Why the fark did you have primaries at all if they can just be overruled by more interested and better organized thugs?

Democracy! Woo!


Intra-party machinations have never been democratic, nor are they intended to be. The parties are private groups with institutional interests they are free to pursue by any legal means.
 
2012-05-13 10:05:20 AM  

Amnestic: Both have the same numbers and, to my knowledge, are up to date.


And, unfortunately, probably not correct. e.g. Louisiana

http://www.dailypaul.com/229929/ron-paul-embarrasses-romney-campaign- b y-winning-louisiana-delegates

Early reports indicate that Paul's campaign won 5 of the 6 Congressional Districts in the Saturday, April 28 statewide vote, with a sixth district still up in the air. Analysis of the results estimates that upwards of 70% of the delegates to the Louisiana Republican Convention held in Shreveport, LA on June 2 will be composed entirely Ron Paul supporters. The delegates at the state convention then choose the majority of the delefates that get sent to the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida later this summer.

RON PAUL is listed as not having any delegates from Louisiana on your two links, but is actually likely to get some (if not a majority) of the delegates due to the shenanigans his suporters are up to.

It could be a really interesting convention.
 
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