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2012-05-13 02:59:08 PM
I hope Arabs will get first shot at the housing....
 
2012-05-13 03:14:25 PM
Good job wealthy residents!


i486.photobucket.com
Instead of having a neighbor along the lines of Lucas Ranch.....


i486.photobucket.com
You'll have neighbors more like this. Enjoy!
 
2012-05-13 03:35:37 PM
As if this won't end up in the courts and drag out for another 25 years. Nice gesture but I doubt it goes anywhere.
 
2012-05-13 03:41:29 PM

Mr.Tangent: As if this won't end up in the courts and drag out for another 25 years. Nice gesture but I doubt it goes anywhere.


It is his land and it's already zoned for residential use, what would there be to go to court about.
 
2012-05-13 03:52:49 PM
Conflicted, I hate HOAs and I also hate Lucas; but I am a property owner and have nothing against rich people. Never had to worry about a rich person breakng into my house or vandalizing my property. On the other hand Lucas should have been able to build his studio.

If Lucas was so concerned about the poor an homeless I am sure there is plenty of room in his existing home, no need to build them other homes

www.nytimes.com
 
2012-05-13 03:56:48 PM
Wow, what a dick move. The people in that community were right for trying to stop a movie studio from being built there. That's ridiculous to have in a residential area. However, this is just a shiatty thing to do. Ruining a community, bringing down property values, and basically turning a beautiful community into a ghetto is not something we should be cheering on. But I know, it's fark, and we hate rich people and love spiteful actions.
 
2012-05-13 04:02:33 PM

Hand Banana: Mr.Tangent: As if this won't end up in the courts and drag out for another 25 years. Nice gesture but I doubt it goes anywhere.

It is his land and it's already zoned for residential use, what would there be to go to court about.


Traffic studies, environmental studies, zoning review, easement objections. We have a low income development in our town that has been held up for over a decade and no end in sight. If a few neighbors are willing to spend a lot of money to stop it they can drag it out for at least two decades.
 
2012-05-13 04:18:54 PM
Just one more example of Lucas being a total jackass, no matter how you look at the situation. Sure go ahead and put "affordable" housing there. Guess what comes next for the scenic and bucolic Marin Valley? Walmart, gas stations and fast food joints every 500 feet, strip malls, etc., which is the same thing that would end up happening if Lucas had been allowed to build his studio too. You can't have commercial or dense residential property like that without the follow-on effect of infrastructure. Lucas is just being a selfish, lazy jackass here, and as so many other people have pointed out, he's trying to USE less fortunate (but most likely more talented) people as a pawn and a big middle-finger to his wealthy neighbors who like the area just as it is.

Someone PLEASE give Patton Oswalt a time machine and a shovel.
 
2012-05-13 04:21:04 PM

dwade: whats stopping him from just buying his neighbors homes and doing whatever he wants?


the owners
 
2012-05-13 04:45:42 PM

lisarenee3505: Lucas is just being a selfish, lazy jackass here, and as so many other people have pointed out, he's trying to USE less fortunate (but most likely more talented) people as a pawn and a big middle-finger to his wealthy neighbors who like the area just as it is.


I'd be straight being a pawn in someone's sick game as long as it got me some tangible goods.
 
2012-05-13 04:52:47 PM

Mugato: cman: Downvoted because George Lucas licked the sweaty balls of Gene Roddenberry

fark Gene Roddenberry. He was a hack. Prying Star Trek out of his cold dead hands was the best thing to happen to the franchise.


Mugato is Rick Berman IRL.

/Fark you, Rick Berman.
 
2012-05-13 05:04:17 PM
His point was that it was all going to be turned into housing anyway and that the neighbors didn't have a problem with it being housing, just a problem with it being a studio (because they assumed that it would be housing for "their sort of people) Lucas decided that if it could only be housing, it would be housing for low income people.

They were happy when they thought they were going to get an estate full of rich people houses. Now someone pissed in their corn flakes because they are getting a housing estate where people don't drive luxury german cars.
 
2012-05-13 05:06:33 PM

PillsHere: Wow, what a dick move. The people in that community were right for trying to stop a movie studio from being built there. That's ridiculous to have in a residential area.


1) It wasn't a residential area when he started buying land there in the late 1970s, it was ranchland; these residential developments have come after him.

2) It's not like he's going to build to their property lines with his proposal. i haven't been able to come up with a size for the Grady Ranch (the parcel he wants to build the studio on) but Skywalker Ranch is 3000 acres, of which 15 are developed.

Big Rock Ranch (another Lucas property) is "1061 acres, of which 43 acres are developed with 317,000 sq ft of office space." This site had 250 employees whose jobs have been moved to the new LucasFilm offices at the Presidio in SF.

citation: Skywalker Ranch

So Lucas isn't interested in a dense level of development. In fact, all of his construction in the valley has worked to preserve the rural character of the area. Contrast that with taking 1000 acres and turning it into a residential development. Even if you're building McMansions on 1 to 1.5 acres plots, that's 600-1000 houses with at least as many people.

And all of these new developments require supermarkets and other services, which means more strip malls and shopping centers, which means more suburban/exurban development in what was (twenty years ago) a rural area.
 
2012-05-13 05:12:15 PM
Poor rich people. They amass their wealth through mass development, polluting the environment as much as they want, and exploiting the ever-increasing pool of the lower class.
Now their isolated, environmentally pristine home is threatened by workers!

darklingscribe: There are no greater asholes than those who try to stop any sort of development in their area.

I understand wanting to protect nature and beauty, but that is almost never their true reasons. it is all about being selfish and worrying about the value of your property. Good for Lucas, hit them where it hurts.


Pretty much. When I was a kid my neighborhood bordered a farm and we could feed horses through our backyard fence along with seeing them and other farm animals doing their animal stuff.
I was really angry when a neighborhood went up, but as I grew older I realized my neighborhood wasn't there 4.6 billion years ago either.
 
2012-05-13 05:15:29 PM
Apparently (FTFA) Lucas was there BEFORE the subdivision - so he was there first with a bunch of land, then they built a big McMansion subdivision right there next to him, and then the precious yuppies who move in complain that the business he wants to build on his own land is going to inconvenience them! That is so farking nerve. So I'm glad Lucas is hitting them where it hurts.
 
2012-05-13 05:15:56 PM

tankjr: Mugato: cman: Downvoted because George Lucas licked the sweaty balls of Gene Roddenberry

fark Gene Roddenberry. He was a hack. Prying Star Trek out of his cold dead hands was the best thing to happen to the franchise.

Mugato is Rick Berman IRL.

/Fark you, Rick Berman.


Yeah and Roddenberry's vision of the future where we got rid of religion, money and all personal conflicts in 200 years made total sense. And the first season of TNG didn't completely suck ass. The Star Trek franchise wasn't in desperate need for someone to rescue it. If you say so.
 
2012-05-13 05:22:24 PM

Mugato: Yeah and Roddenberry's vision of the future where we got rid of religion, money and all personal conflicts in 200 years made total sense.


It was a sci-fi show in the 1960s. There was still hope that we could change the world for the better and move forward as a species. It was also in the midst of the Cold War the idea of the end to war and conflict (at least among humans) was appealing.

You can fault Rodenberry for a lot of things, but that's not one of them.

/not a Trekkie
//Trekkie-adjacent
///Should also point out that I don't much care for Lucas' films, but his development of Skywalker Ranch cannot be faulted.
 
2012-05-13 05:36:02 PM
I hope they name the place 'Jar Jar Terrace'.
 
2012-05-13 05:46:32 PM

Dwight_Yeast: It was a sci-fi show in the 1960s. There was still hope that we could change the world for the better and move forward as a species. It was also in the midst of the Cold War the idea of the end to war and conflict (at least among humans) was appealing.


It was 1987.
 
2012-05-13 05:54:47 PM
George Lucas: If I can't win, everybody loses.
 
2012-05-13 06:09:58 PM

oryx: George Lucas: If I can't win, everybody loses.


So...you're siding against the guy who tried to build a studio that would employ hundreds of people but his neighbors wouldn't let him so he's turning the property into low income housing. You're siding against this guy? Were the prequels that bad?
 
2012-05-13 06:22:36 PM

Mugato: Dwight_Yeast: It was a sci-fi show in the 1960s. There was still hope that we could change the world for the better and move forward as a species. It was also in the midst of the Cold War the idea of the end to war and conflict (at least among humans) was appealing.

It was 1987.


I thought you were referring to TOS. Based on the work of various geeks online, TNG took place about 375 years in the future, not 200.
 
2012-05-13 06:27:26 PM
Sound's like he should top it off with some teahatter support. Should hire him a young, idealistic architect whose vision of building is fueled by an unwavering conviction to a set of ideals that he will not sacrifice under any circumstance. And rape him. There needs to be rape as well.
 
2012-05-13 06:33:06 PM

The_Gallant_Gallstone: SockMonkeyHolocaust: Rich guy uses poor people as a weapon against the well-off people who didn't want Star Wars guy to congest their area? Yeah, totally a hero. I can get behind old star wars guy and can't wait to fund his kickstarter or buy the rap album that Tom Hank's kid is on.

That's usually the only way poor people catch a break.

Sometimes, if a pawn is lucky, it can make it to the other side of the board and become something more bad-ass.

/bootstraps


George Lucas must be the king but who's the "get shiat done" piece?
 
2012-05-13 06:58:29 PM

Dwight_Yeast: I thought you were referring to TOS. Based on the work of various geeks online, TNG took place about 375 years in the future, not 200.


Well the whole no money thing took place during the Trek movies which were closer to 200 years.
 
2012-05-13 07:01:56 PM
I never thought I'd say this George Lucas, but yeah....that was cool.
 
2012-05-13 07:06:39 PM

Mugato: Were the prequels that bad?


They were pretty bad.
 
2012-05-13 07:31:29 PM

Mugato: tankjr: Mugato: cman: Downvoted because George Lucas licked the sweaty balls of Gene Roddenberry

fark Gene Roddenberry. He was a hack. Prying Star Trek out of his cold dead hands was the best thing to happen to the franchise.

Mugato is Rick Berman IRL.

/Fark you, Rick Berman.

Yeah and Roddenberry's vision of the future where we got rid of religion, money and all personal conflicts in 200 years made total sense. And the first season of TNG didn't completely suck ass. The Star Trek franchise wasn't in desperate need for someone to rescue it. If you say so.


Roddenberry's vision was carried over right up until the Maquis. Admittedly the first season did suck thanks to all the phase 2 adaptation. The Star Trek franchise *still is* in need of someone to rescue it from Rick Berman's enduring legacy.
 
2012-05-13 07:53:04 PM
Personally I was hoping that he would do a land swap with the Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria that are planning on building a casino 5 miles from my house in Sonoma County. He could build his movie studio there (a 40 min drive from Skywalker Ranch) and the Indians could build their casino 30 mins closer to the San Francisco. Seems like a win-win to me.
 
2012-05-13 08:12:01 PM
Say what you will about him as a filmmaker, working for LucasFilm appears to be an AMAZING gig. From comped meals at an AMAZING cafeteria, to in-studio daycare, to on-site gym memberships, the benies just don't stop.

/God HELP you if you're in LucasARTS, however.
//Italian dictators in the 1940s had more job security...

Infernalist: Lemme see if I got this straight:

1) George "NOOOOOOO" Lucas tries to get a massive studio built in a residential area.

2) Fails miserably.

3) Now decides to build LOW RENT HOUSING as a 'fark you' to the neighbors.

Is that what we're cheering over? Rich farkers screwing with other rich farkers and using 'contact' with POOR PEOPLE as a way of showing your displeasure?

Fark you all.


So if he gave $50,000,000 to cancer research because he personally got cancer, that would be a terrible thing for you? Cause he's not doing it as a purely altruistic act, so therefore any virtue in the act itself is negated...
 
2012-05-13 08:12:20 PM

PillsHere: Wow, what a dick move. The people in that community were right for trying to stop a movie studio from being built there. That's ridiculous to have in a residential area. However, this is just a shiatty thing to do. Ruining a community, bringing down property values, and basically turning a beautiful community into a ghetto is not something we should be cheering on. But I know, it's fark, and we hate rich people and love spiteful actions.



I salute you.
A most excellent troll.
 
2012-05-13 08:17:11 PM
Here's how it went down:

Lucas bought a lot of land, surrounded by nobody.
Dipshiats who merely happened to have money moved in as residents primarily because Lucas lived in the area.
These dipshiats then decided that Lucas couldn't be allowed to do what he wanted with HIS OWN LAND, even though he was there before they were around him.
Lucas dick-moved on the dipshiats.

Lucas has now compensated the universe for creating Jar-Jar Binks.
 
2012-05-13 08:36:15 PM

Mugato: cman: Downvoted because George Lucas licked the sweaty balls of Gene Roddenberry

fark Gene Roddenberry. He was a hack. Prying Star Trek out of his cold dead hands was the best thing to happen to the franchise.


Then please explain this to me.

Every fark thread talking about Star Trek
TOS: Epic master piece of science fiction
Movies:....*crickets*
TNG: You did it gain Rodenberry! (he dies)
DS9: Meh
Voyager: OMG piece of steaming crap
Enterprise: *drinks suicide punch*
JJ Abhramams: I liked Star Trek before it became so cool. Hipster trash.
 
2012-05-13 08:56:00 PM

AppleOptionEsc: Mugato: cman: Downvoted because George Lucas licked the sweaty balls of Gene Roddenberry

fark Gene Roddenberry. He was a hack. Prying Star Trek out of his cold dead hands was the best thing to happen to the franchise.

Then please explain this to me.

Every fark thread talking about Star Trek
TOS: Epic master piece of science fiction
Movies:....*crickets*
TNG: You did it gain Rodenberry! (he dies)
DS9: Meh
Voyager: OMG piece of steaming crap
Enterprise: *drinks suicide punch*
JJ Abhramams: I liked Star Trek before it became so cool. Hipster trash.


Is any of that referring to me?
 
2012-05-13 08:59:28 PM

AppleOptionEsc: Mugato: cman: Downvoted because George Lucas licked the sweaty balls of Gene Roddenberry

fark Gene Roddenberry. He was a hack. Prying Star Trek out of his cold dead hands was the best thing to happen to the franchise.

Then please explain this to me.

Every fark thread talking about Star Trek
TOS: Epic master piece of science fiction
Movies:....*crickets*
TNG: You did it gain Rodenberry! (he dies)
DS9: Meh
Voyager: OMG piece of steaming crap
Enterprise: *drinks suicide punch*
JJ Abhramams: I liked Star Trek before it became so cool. Hipster trash.


He just doesn't like Trek without Rod Stewart singing the theme song.
 
2012-05-13 09:04:08 PM

tankjr: Mugato: tankjr: Mugato: cman: Downvoted because George Lucas licked the sweaty balls of Gene Roddenberry

fark Gene Roddenberry. He was a hack. Prying Star Trek out of his cold dead hands was the best thing to happen to the franchise.

Mugato is Rick Berman IRL.

/Fark you, Rick Berman.

Yeah and Roddenberry's vision of the future where we got rid of religion, money and all personal conflicts in 200 years made total sense. And the first season of TNG didn't completely suck ass. The Star Trek franchise wasn't in desperate need for someone to rescue it. If you say so.

Roddenberry's vision was carried over right up until the Maquis. Admittedly the first season did suck thanks to all the phase 2 adaptation. The Star Trek franchise *still is* in need of someone to rescue it from Rick Berman's enduring legacy.


If you're saving it from Berman, be sure you keep Brannon Braga as far away from it as possible, too.
 
2012-05-13 10:05:33 PM

Mugato: Well the whole no money thing took place during the Trek movies which were closer to 200 years.



This would be a lot easier if you'd be specific; I can never tell when you're trolling or not.

Look at it this way: two hundred years ago, England was just getting around to making the ownership of slaves illegal. It would take another fifty years and a civil war before we did the same thing. A hundred years ago, no one people have believed you if you'd told them that in less than a century we;d be off the Gold Standard and on our way to phasing out cash entirely, relying instead on pieces of plastic with the data encoded on them with a magnet.

A lot can change in two hundred years, or even a hundred. Or even fifty.
 
2012-05-13 10:14:52 PM

tankjr: Mugato: cman: Downvoted because George Lucas licked the sweaty balls of Gene Roddenberry

fark Gene Roddenberry. He was a hack. Prying Star Trek out of his cold dead hands was the best thing to happen to the franchise.

Mugato is Rick Berman IRL.

/Fark you, Rick Berman.


Hey wait...that ain't Rick Berman...what is it with RICKs, anyway?
 
2012-05-13 10:31:45 PM
The Lucas Valley HOA, when the walls fell.
 
2012-05-13 10:44:28 PM

Mugato: AppleOptionEsc: Mugato: cman: Downvoted because George Lucas licked the sweaty balls of Gene Roddenberry

fark Gene Roddenberry. He was a hack. Prying Star Trek out of his cold dead hands was the best thing to happen to the franchise.

Then please explain this to me.

Every fark thread talking about Star Trek
TOS: Epic master piece of science fiction
Movies:....*crickets*
TNG: You did it gain Rodenberry! (he dies)
DS9: Meh
Voyager: OMG piece of steaming crap
Enterprise: *drinks suicide punch*
JJ Abhramams: I liked Star Trek before it became so cool. Hipster trash.

Is any of that referring to me?


I dunno. Walking into trek threads is like walking into a house of cards full of red ants. I try not to prod. If you feel that way then kudos for you. People just seem to get angrier the more Trek stops being a cowboy spaghetti western.
 
2012-05-13 11:01:00 PM
The very essence of this move is "Haha, black people'd!"
And sure, even Mace Windu breaks windows in nice neighborhoods, but I don't think there's a person in the world who enjoys being the punchline.
 
2012-05-13 11:43:32 PM
George Lucas sucks.
 
2012-05-14 12:30:07 AM
FTFA: According to the San Francisco Chronicle, for four decades Lucas has owned a large swath of land in Marin County in the North San Francisco Bay and has spent the past few years trying to transform the ranch on it into a massive, nearly 300,000 square foot, state-of-the-art movie studio complete with day care center, restaurant, gym and a 200-car garage. His neighbors, however, have rejected it every step of the way. Despite the promise of bringing $300 million worth of economic activity to the area, the already-well off neighbors are worried about years' worth of construction activity and the additional foot traffic it will bring into their neighborhood once completed.


"Additional foot traffic" is code for "brown people."
 
2012-05-14 12:35:49 AM
FTFA: So what is George Lucas going to do with his property now that he's tired of his rich neighbors putting up a not-in-my-backyard stink? He wants to transform the property into low-income housing, naturally, ending their official statement with this zinger, "If everyone feels that housing is less impactful on the land, then we are hoping that people who need it the most will benefit."

He's working with the Marin Community Foundation to instead construct affordable housing for either low-income families or seniors living on small, fixed incomes. In order to smooth along the development, he's already given them all of the pricey technical studies and land surveys Lucasfilm spent years conducting. And we think that's just great. Because if there's one thing rich people will hate more than having movie magic made in their backyard, it's poor people moving in.

Mr. Lucas, we may hate you for turning your back on the original trilogy, but our hat is off to you on this one. Well played.



Well played, indeed. I'm impressed. Genuinely impressed.
 
2012-05-14 12:41:32 AM

Fark Me To Tears: Well played, indeed. I'm impressed. Genuinely impressed.


Mr. Lucas, if you want some place to build a film studio, you could come down to SW Florida. If you made a proposal to do here what you were trying to do there, I think the local powers-that-be would just about cream themselves.

Just a thought...

PS: No state income taxes here.
 
2012-05-14 06:41:46 AM
can't he just buy their houses with his 50 billion dollars?
 
2012-05-14 06:49:34 AM
shrim a hai ya lai ya ha ia

SHRIM!!!!!

www.atomicmoo.com
 
2012-05-14 06:57:34 AM
sweet. "Don`t want lots of rich people near you? OK!"
 
2012-05-14 06:57:58 AM

darklingscribe: There are no greater asholes than those who try to stop any sort of development in their area.


Didn't Lucas fight the construction of other houses in the area?
 
2012-05-14 07:00:40 AM
How many times is this going to get greenlit? And I call bullshiat until it actually happens.
 
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