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(Seattle Times)   Seattle experiments with twice monthly trash pickup. Some noses have a problem with this   (seattletimes.nwsource.com) divider line 53
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433 [TotalFark]
2012-05-13 03:02:27 AM  
I'll bet the residents didn't waste their time to call the new pick-up plan "total garbage."


/aw, can it!
 
2012-05-13 03:56:18 AM  
Well, here in Germany every other week is the norm.
And it is working just fine...
 
2012-05-13 03:56:38 AM  
Our garbage pick-up is every 8 days, and I often only take it out every second collection day.

Composting cuts down on a lot of waste, at least for me.
 
2012-05-13 03:57:07 AM  
We have it in Portland. Yard waste, food waste, and recycling get picked up weekly. Nothing smelly hangs around longer than 7 days, just like back when we had weekly trash service.
If we can do it I'm sure Seattle can figure it out.
 
2012-05-13 04:01:12 AM  
If you are clever about it, you don´t have much waste...

Link

What is waste management about?

Avoidance, recovery, disposal. This is the principle of the waste hierarchy which is the basis for waste management in Germany. In the past waste was simply landfilled, but it has since been recognised that waste contains valuable raw materials which can be used to conserve natural resources. Waste avoidance means consuming less raw materials and reducing burdens on the environment. Waste recovery means that raw materials and energy are reintroduced into the economic cycle. German waste management is an important industrial sector and provides high-quality technology for the efficient use of waste as a resource and the environmentally sound disposal of the remaining residual waste.
 
2012-05-13 04:12:42 AM  
they get the garbage here twice a week, and i cant fathom why they need to do it.

its a scam i tells ya.
 
2012-05-13 04:12:55 AM  
Honestly I could live with it. Enough things are made of paper, cardboard and plastic to where there just isn't that much trash coming out of the house.
 
2012-05-13 04:14:36 AM  
I wouldn't mind every other week. We compost and recycle (picked up every other week). But what I would need is some sort of green waste pick-up provided from time to time, as well as maybe a spring cleaning bulk service. I know some communities provide these services, but mine does not. Everything has to go in the garbage bin which is picked up weekly. And cutting down one large bush damn near fills the thing. I also built a fire pit in the back which takes care of some of that, but still.
 
2012-05-13 04:15:48 AM  
So this means that they can fire half their work force.
 
2012-05-13 04:20:48 AM  
As long as I get two trashcans for the same fee... sure! Oh what's that? It will somehow cost more?

I just moved to a new place that's a mile from a 'waste distribution center'. So now I skip paying for pickup and take it in the back of a pickup instead. And I don't have to worry about what day it is.
 
2012-05-13 04:22:15 AM  
Rinse the organic stuff off of your tin cans and plastic and throw it in the recycle bin. I've had empty tin cans in my garage for three months or more without any offending odor.
 
2012-05-13 04:27:43 AM  
Given that they're paying the same monthly rate and that this is going to make it more difficult to dispose of unwanted bodies and/or body parts, I don't see how this benefits Seattle waste disposal consumers.
 
2012-05-13 04:34:40 AM  
Eh, Leschi. Don't care.

/.N.S.C.C. in tha' hizzy!
 
2012-05-13 04:54:16 AM  
Recycling and compost weekly. I stopped using my trash can because I never fill it. I just toss small kitchen sized bags in the neighbors can which is still picked up weekly here, for now.
 
2012-05-13 05:06:43 AM  
With what? Garbage trucks 50 ft long? Twice the garbage just means twice the trucks or twice the trips. Assuming reasonable efficiency now that is.
 
2012-05-13 05:30:00 AM  
Twice monthly? Here they do it twice weekly and even then sometimes the bins are overflowing.
 
2012-05-13 05:45:54 AM  
Trash runs twice a week here. :) Living in central Missouri I couldn't imagine the smell and all the maggots on the bags when it gets a little warmer outside. Blech!
 
2012-05-13 06:24:36 AM  
I believe that this summer here in Ottawa we are starting bi-weekly garbage collection. Recycling and our green bins(which is for organic waste and such) will still be picked up weekly. I don't have a problem with it.
 
2012-05-13 06:48:01 AM  

fisker: So this means that they can fire half their work force.


Right. The other half will now be on welfare and unemployment. Down here, once every two weeks would be immensely disgusting. We used to get twice weekly and guys from the city (with jobs who had health insurance etc.) would come pick up the garbage from the side of the house. Now, it's been privatized and guys without health insurance (and a lot fewer of them) get it weekly, I have to wheel the thing to the curb and back myself, and in the summer, it's foul. And my taxes didn't go down. And there's more unemployed people.
 
2012-05-13 06:49:13 AM  
One more thing I'm going to have to readjust to when I get back to the US. I have four trash days a week here. Nothing smelly stays around more than 4 days.
 
2012-05-13 06:58:32 AM  
Once every two weeks here. I keep a small container in my freezer for meat scraps, bones, etc., and they go in the bag right before garbage day. No smell.
 
2012-05-13 07:04:44 AM  

homeless_need_help: more difficult to dispose of unwanted bodies and/or body parts


Those go in the food and yard waste bin. That still gets weekly pickup.
 
2012-05-13 07:05:40 AM  

Tenatra: Living in central Missouri I couldn't imagine the smell and all the maggots on the bags when it gets a little warmer outside.


Seattle already has separate collection for organic material.
 
2012-05-13 07:29:34 AM  
My household reycles and composts. We have weekly garbage pickup, but often I skip a week in taking the can to the curb. I could deal with this.
 
2012-05-13 07:32:47 AM  
They are trying to rencourage MORE recycling, so I would think the demand needs to be that any garbage man who lost his job got a job for the recycling company.

Win win.
 
2012-05-13 07:44:05 AM  
Weekly wednesday pickup. Our family of six usually has two 55 gallon barrels full. Our trash pickup is two guys in a pickup truck. $18 per month. If the trash can burn, it gets burned and the ashes spread around the flowers beds. Recycle items are taken when I have a trailer full.
 
pla
2012-05-13 07:57:10 AM  
Aww, teh poor widdle Seattlites have to wait a whole two weeks for someone to haul away theiw twash?

We have no trash pick-up where I live. Once every two or three weeks, I take a bag to the transfer station myself.

One bag.

And no, not a recycling/composting/whatever fanatic. Yes, I recycle anything with a redemption value, and would rather toss a bad loaf of bread to the birds than the garbage, but it just amazes me how much trash most people generate, that they "need" weekly pickup.

/ In the winter, I have to admit that I do burn most noncoated paper items in the woodstove, though
// Free firestarting material, woo-hoo!
 
2012-05-13 08:18:18 AM  
Here in Austin they pick up trash once a week, recyclables every two weeks. Eventually they want to reverse the pickup rate. Wouldn't bother me....
 
2012-05-13 08:23:05 AM  

pla: it just amazes me how much trash most people generate


Agreed. I have a wife and daughter that produce (in my opinion) a staggering amount of trash and laundry.
 
2012-05-13 09:13:29 AM  
I put out trash maybe once a month which is about how long it takes me to fill one small 13 gallon bag (and even then it's usually not full). A lot of stuff is recycled and the stuff that might smell either gets composted or goes down the garbage disposal.

I pay for trash pickup every week though and it pisses me off. I used to pay by the bag but a few years ago I was forced onto this constant payment system where I'm subsidizing everyone else's poor trash habits. I went from spending about $30 per year on trash to over $250 per year. Bastards.
 
2012-05-13 09:38:29 AM  

akashik: pla: it just amazes me how much trash most people generate

Agreed. I have a wife and daughter that produce (in my opinion) a staggering amount of trash and laundry.


Yup why is it that when it's 3 men in a house the trash has to go out once a week but put 2 or 3 women in the house and it needs to go out at least once a day?

Miami just went to (crooked deal) private trash pickup, once a week and recycling on Sat. Works just fine, but any less than that would be seriously unsanitary, very very hot here you know.
 
2012-05-13 09:47:14 AM  
People with babies might make it interesting for the garbage people. Mmm, 2 weeks of diapers simmering in the heat. And cloth ones suck. We tried them. Puppy pads with the rescue dog can get to be pretty special too.

What happens if you travel and miss a collection day? If you miss a pickup day that would really suck.

My neighborhood has several companies we can pick from. You get them based on which day or frequency is good for you.
 
2012-05-13 09:59:29 AM  

Tachypnea: I believe that this summer here in Ottawa we are starting bi-weekly garbage collection. Recycling and our green bins(which is for organic waste and such) will still be picked up weekly. I don't have a problem with it.


I believe it is supposed to start in November. At least commercial garbage will still be picked up often.

Have you been on Somerset on a hot summer's day? Worst smell ever.

/Somerset is Chinatown up here.
 
2012-05-13 10:18:16 AM  
Free, unlimited recycling will still be every other week. Food- and yard-waste collection will remain weekly.

So Seattle has 4 types of collection: food-waste, yard-waste, recycling, and garbage collection? Here, we only have the latter three.

I'm surprised any family with less than 6-8 members could generate enough 'garbage' after separating out the food and recyclables to justify weekly collection. Might suck for parents of infants who use disposable diapers, though.
 
2012-05-13 10:34:09 AM  
No, food and yard waste go into the same can.
Surprised Abbey Something isn't here.
How about Will in Seattle from Slog - are you on Fark?
 
2012-05-13 10:55:35 AM  
when I lived in Gold Beach Oregon, what we did was get a 55 gallon barrel with a good screen
on top, and twice a week we could burn our trash, then every month take just the toasted cans
to the dump. worked great. couldn't see that happening in the big city tho.
 
2012-05-13 11:17:10 AM  
We have curbside recycling. They pick up paper, plastic, glass, metal and food waste every week. Other garbage goes out every two weeks. There isn't a problem, and all the really smelly stuff goes out with the food scraps.
 
2012-05-13 12:58:22 PM  

powhound:
...cutting down one large bush damn near fills the thing. I also built a fire pit in the back which takes care of some of that, but still.


What about cutting up a human body?
 
2012-05-13 01:42:58 PM  

wildlifer: Weekly wednesday pickup. Our family of six usually has two 55 gallon barrels full. Our trash pickup is two guys in a pickup truck. $18 per month. If the trash can burn, it gets burned and the ashes spread around the flowers beds. Recycle items are taken when I have a trailer full.


That's an obscene amount of trash, especially considering that you're burning a lot of stuff (which is also pretty bad, pollution-wise) and recycling. Consume!
 
2012-05-13 02:40:09 PM  
Also, FYI the only thing they are actually recycling of yours is your aluminum cans. All those plastic bottles? They've got enough now. They burn all the paper and most of the cardboard. Have fun sorting rubes!
 
2012-05-13 03:35:14 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: What happens if you travel and miss a collection day? If you miss a pickup day that would really suck.


That is, by far, the worst part of Portland doing it every other week.
 
2012-05-13 03:39:14 PM  

arcas: So Seattle has 4 types of collection: food-waste, yard-waste, recycling, and garbage collection?


Three types. Food and yard waste are the same -- anything that will rot can go in that can, including food-soiled paper, etc. There's really little reason to have organic things your normal trash in Seattle.
 
2012-05-13 03:59:40 PM  
Well, that depends if their organic waste collection is part of this. If so, then we'd have a problem.

/here in Toronto, recycling and garbage are on alternating weeks while green-bin is weekly and yard waste is bi-weekly with the recycling, IIRC
 
2012-05-13 04:53:03 PM  

penthesilea: We have it in Portland. Yard waste, food waste, and recycling get picked up weekly. Nothing smelly hangs around longer than 7 days, just like back when we had weekly trash service.
If we can do it I'm sure Seattle can figure it out.


there is very little in my waste stream that i couldn't shoe horn into one of those categories.

otoh i have twice a week PU available and usually use it once a week. and i'm single and live alone.
 
2012-05-13 06:57:52 PM  
Trying to compete with Tacoma for the smell?
 
2012-05-13 07:04:11 PM  
I live in Seattle, and it's not unsual for our dumpster to be filled to overflowing.

The trash collectors going to be wading through garbage to get to the garbage.
 
2012-05-13 07:06:02 PM  

JonnyBGoode: Trying to compete with Tacoma for the smell?


Hey, Tacoma smells like heaven!

Oh, wait. That's the bi-monthly Cannabis Farmers Market.
 
2012-05-13 07:11:59 PM  
After that they will institute flushing after every other dump.
 
2012-05-13 07:13:20 PM  

elbows_deep_silent_queef: powhound:
...cutting down one large bush damn near fills the thing. I also built a fire pit in the back which takes care of some of that, but still.

What about cutting up a human body?


Two words: Garbage disposal.
 
2012-05-14 12:05:44 AM  
What's the big deal? I've been known to take my trash out once a month. The local service provides a standard 96 gallon bin so they can use their robot arm truck and it just takes that long to fill those, with just me and my roommate and we recycle. And because I'm lazy I only bring it out if it's somewhat full, so that's 3, sometimes 4 weeks. We keep it in an enclosed garage (with my car with the windows often left open) with the lid closed and smell has never been even the slightest issue. Sure, if you open it and stick your head in there it stinks like a mother, so I avoid doing that.
 
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