If it wasn't for Reagan shutting down the asylums she wouldn't be out there ranting and raving her bigoted crap. This is all republican fault.

vossiewulf: The issue is that it has become extraordinarily difficult to distinguish between someone who is mentally ill and someone who is an honest racist gay-hating tea party GOP Real American™.

Or telling schizophrenics apart from Glen Beck fans. That perfectly sane, rational people can't tell them apart anymore is frightening.

vossiewulf: The issue is that it has become extraordinarily difficult to distinguish between someone who is mentally ill and someone who is an honest racist gay-hating tea party GOP Real American™.

THIS

" About that "crazy anti-gay lady?" She really is mentally ill, and, interestingly enough, really is a human being. Here comes the liberal guilt, I hope desperately need as a deflection for what my party has been saying all along.

FTFY, subby

Gyrfalcon: Merely because she's schizophrenic doesn't mean she doesn't know what she's doing--what would make you think she's not able to speak about things as she understands them? Or do you hold to the notion that crazy people are somehow subhuman? Do elucidate, as a mentally ill person myself, I'm completely fascinated by your opinion.

Are chill pills part of your treatment?

I guess the "normal" Freepers who spout the same crazy crap in blogs and such are just undiagnosed schizophrenics.

Future News Flash:

Neo-Conservatism Recognized as Mental Disorder.

Liberal guilt? Good one.

What next, GOP credibility?

Gyrfalcon: Chariset: If she's mentally ill, why is she speaking in public?

And what exactly would you like done to prevent her from speaking?

She's not dangerous.
She's not unable to care for her basic needs.
She's still entitled to all her Constitutional rights because she's done nothing to lose any of them.

Merely because she's schizophrenic doesn't mean she doesn't know what she's doing--what would make you think she's not able to speak about things as she understands them? Or do you hold to the notion that crazy people are somehow subhuman? Do elucidate, as a mentally ill person myself, I'm completely fascinated by your opinion.

Is it really that unreasonable to have some mental competency requirements for speakers at venues like this?

Biological Ali: Is it really that unreasonable to have some mental competency requirements for speakers at venues like this?

I would think her caretakers would be more weary of giving her free reign considering her situation.

Gyrfalcon: It's really unconstitutional.

How so?

It's nice to see the mentally ill are still valid targets for attacks based on "lol they're crazy". I don't particularly enjoy the fact that people seem to equate being mentally ill to being in the tea party. It's insulting.

Pichu0102: I don't particularly enjoy the fact that people seem to equate being mentally ill to being in the tea party. It's insulting.

Given relevant information, they seem to spew the same political views.

I see this as another spectrum of Poe's Law. Poe's Law is you can't distinguish trollish conservative speech from real conservative speech. In this case, you can't distinguish crazy conservative speech from real conservative speech. They're pretty much the same though. In Poe's Law, the speaker is acting crazy to parody how crazy conservatives are. In this instance, the speaker actually is crazy.

Pichu0102: I don't particularly enjoy the fact that people seem to equate being mentally ill to being in the tea party. It's insulting.

I agree, its an insult to mentally ill people.

bulldg4life: Pichu0102: I don't particularly enjoy the fact that people seem to equate being mentally ill to being in the tea party. It's insulting.

Given relevant information, they seem to spew the same political views.

So the mentally ill are now just all hateful people with no redeeming factors? Is this what you really want to go with?

Pichu0102: So the mentally ill are now just all hateful people with no redeeming factors? Is this what you really want to go with?

um...wat?

Where on earth did you get that? are you nuts?

BunkyBrewman: "liberal guilt"?

Or, in other words... a conscience.

Conscience? This is a concept that psychopaths can't understand.

fark her

Schizophrenia is some serious sh*t. the worst of all mental illnesses.

Crazy or not, that shiat deserves some ridicule. Because someone, somewhere, thinks and says those same exact things and is considered sane.

Farker Soze: Whut? She's the definition of crazy conservative. If she was slightly less more batshiat crazy schizophrenic she'd be listening to a guest on Rush, watching employed by Fox News, and be slightly more articulate running for public office. That's their prime demographic.

FTFY.
=Smidge=

Biological Ali: Is it really that unreasonable to have some mental competency requirements for speakers at venues like this?

Yes. Our government doesn't just rule for the sane, and logistically there's no way to sort out the nutters.

Linux_Yes: Schizophrenia is some serious sh*t. the worst of all mental illnesses.

Yeah no. Locked in syndrome.

I think I see what's happening here...

Some crazy woman is saying out loud what certain people are trying to say through legislation.

It's sad that the lady is crazy, and this may be seen as a useful deflection.

What is your excuse? Are you crazy? Should you be removed from office and committed perhaps?

Linux_Yes: Schizophrenia is some serious sh*t. the worst of all mental illnesses.

i knew a girl who had it. their brains don't process information like a normal brain. they think and say things that don't make sense to anyone else. they have trouble separating what is real from what is not real. almost like was it a dream or did it really happen kind of thing. its freaky and there is no cure for it. most patients get the illness in their teens and early twenties. so watch out all you young Farkers.

oh, and weed greatly increases the chances of getting Schizophrenia in young, developing brains. the studies over the last 20 or 30 years show a clear link between weed and schiz.


so think about that one next time you want to blow a joint, kiddies.

Gyrfalcon: Stopping someone--anyone--from expressing their point of view in a political forum for any reason whatsoever based on irrelevant extrinsic factors like, as you suggest mental stability (who judges? based on what? determined how?)

Anyone? Even, say, extremely young children?

Just like libs to pick on someone with a mental disorder just so they can attack conservatives. You should all be ashamed.

Chariset: If she's mentally ill, why is she speaking in public?

Wow - what a remark. I suppose you mean why is anyone giving her a platform rather than why isn't she locked up in some dungeon somewhere.

Nonetheless how does one define mental illness? I don't think it's her anti-gay stance that defines it. I'm sure some will disagree, but that's her opinion and it may simply be a product of her mental illness.

But at what point do you tell people they cannot speak in public?

The definition of mental illness seems to be expanding and if you wish to limit their right to free speech we should all be scared.

Gyrfalcon: Chariset: If she's mentally ill, why is she speaking in public?

And what exactly would you like done to prevent her from speaking?

She's not dangerous.
She's not unable to care for her basic needs.
She's still entitled to all her Constitutional rights because she's done nothing to lose any of them.

Merely because she's schizophrenic doesn't mean she doesn't know what she's doing--what would make you think she's not able to speak about things as she understands them? Or do you hold to the notion that crazy people are somehow subhuman? Do elucidate, as a mentally ill person myself, I'm completely fascinated by your opinion.

Go be crazy somewhere else

Bathia_Mapes: When Ronald Reagan was governor of California (1967-1975) he began closing down mental hospitals. Later as president (1981-1989) he would cut aid for federally-funded community mental health programs.

I was a kid in California when Reagan started throwing sick people into the streets. In my neighborhood, they dropped off this man that I'd hazard a guess who was severely schizophrenic, at the address of his last known relative and left him there. The man had been in an asylum for most of his life, and the relative had moved away at least twenty years prior to Reagan shutting everything down.

For about a year, this poor guy lived in the alley behind where I lived inside a cardboard box. There was a church on my street, but they refused to help him. There was a tiny mom & pop store where he used to go dumpster diving for food. Then one day they found him dead in his cardboard box. Somebody had poisoned him with a casserole loaded with rat poison. The primary suspect was this rich conservative biatch nicknamed "The Evil Queen" whose home faced the opening of that alley. She used to fly into a foaming-at-the-mouth fury everytime she saw him, and she often talked about killing him. But she was never arrested.

Here in Nevada, I know a staunch Republican who bloody hates Reagan because his mother had been kicked out into the streets without his family getting any notification of where or when. They only found out about her death after the police pulled her out of the surf near Long Beach.

subtil_serpent: Just like libs to pick on someone with a mental disorder just so they can attack conservatives. You should all be ashamed.

Hello? She is saying the same things they do!

Counter_Intelligent: It's still okay if we found facepalm guy funny, isn't it? Please let it still be okay if we found facepalm guy funny.

I thought that was why this was considered funny instead of sad. I mean, it really is sad that she's so clearly delusional, especially given how scary her delusions seem. But the facepalm guy just turned it from sad into hilarious.

/Really, I don't think anyone was ever laughing at her at all.

I really think some of you are getting bent out of shape by people simply questioning why she is talking. It isn't questioning the validity of allowing her to speak and it isn't insinuating all crazy people should be locked up.

However, if her caretakers know that she has this disease, why would you let her get in to this position where she COULD say "crazy" things in an open forum?

Little kids are prone to making ridiculous comments and most people watch them and take the time to watch them to prevent them from doing something embarrassing or stupid.

kmmontandon: WTF Indeed: That is very sad, however now we have a new law, The Svoboda Law.



Doesn't Svoboda mean "Freedom" in Ukrainian?

In Czech, yes.

Gyrfalcon: Biological Ali: Gyrfalcon: Stopping someone--anyone--from expressing their point of view in a political forum for any reason whatsoever based on irrelevant extrinsic factors like, as you suggest mental stability (who judges? based on what? determined how?)

Anyone? Even, say, extremely young children?

You don't usually move the goalposts in a debate like that, Ali. I am dissappoint.

I suggest you calm down. It seems like you're pretty wound up over this. I haven't moved any goalposts; indeed I haven't yet advanced a complete argument at all. All I've done so far is ask you a series of questions aimed at getting you to elaborate the parameters of your own argument(s).

Hey, subby:

Linux_Yes: oh, and weed greatly increases the chances of getting Schizophrenia in young, developing brains. the studies over the last 20 or 30 years show a clear link between weed and schiz.

Yeah, and using linux when you're young greatly increases your chance of being a colossal dork.

Gyrfalcon: But keeping her out because she's crazy would not be reasonable.

What does a democracy gain in tolerating evil, ignorant, or crazy people?