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What a fabulous hypocrite.

Keep posting those over and over until November.

This is gonna be great.

Mass Gov Mitt was pro choice, pro gay civil rights and pro health care reform moderate Republican.

Now, going into this election he has to pretend he's really the anti-choice, anti-gay, and anti-health care reform guy radicals on the right want him to be.

His record = A rock.

His agenda = A hard place.

And Mitt right smack dab in the middle.

Sucks to be you, Mittens.

You are gonna end up like McCain kowtowing to the rightwing religious radicals in your party and repudiating every thing you ever did good in your life only to lose to Obama in the fall.

/As you sow...

A "weapon" that has the power of revealing what a bigoted homophobe you are. Yeah, that's going to be smooth sailing.

Pray 4 Mojo: Whether you choose to accept it or not... technically... "Gay Marriage" is a special or additional 'right'. The definition of marriage being "between one man and one woman" does not discriminate against anybody. This is a fact bullshiat.

FTFY.

/You might as well say that segregation wasn't discrimination, since whites couldn't go to black schools and blacks couldn't go to white schools, so everybody has the same rights.

namatad: Pray 4 Mojo: Whether you choose to accept it or not... technically... "Gay Marriage" is a special or additional 'right'. The definition of marriage being "between one man and one woman" does not discriminate against anybody. This is a fact.

so
There are a LARGE number of religious groups/churches/religions which will marry gay people.
Those marriages are treated differently that non-gay marriages.

How is this not unconstitutional?

Same way the ban on bigamy is not not Constitutional.

Biological Ali: Pray 4 Mojo: Whether you choose to accept it or not... technically... "Gay Marriage" is a special or additional 'right'. The definition of marriage being "between one man and one woman" does not discriminate against anybody. This is a fact.

Equal protection under the law does not work that way.

Yes it does.

Black guy, "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
White guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
Gay guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes

Black guy, "Can I marry a white guy?" - No
White guy. "Can I marry a white guy?" - No
Gay guy. "Can I marry a white guy?" - No

You can also replace " a white guy" with "My sister", "three white girls", "my horse" and so on.

Answers are always consistent. Nobody is receiving special treatment or being denied anything that some other group gets.

hubiestubert: Weaver95: If Romney fails to win against Obama his own party will eat him alive.

No they won't. He'll go back to bilking companies to run capital schemes against. It's essentially the same game he's been running on non-profits and public entities for years.

He will become a pariah. He isn't well liked by the "cool kids" of the Republican Party. He only did as well as he did in the primaries due to his organization (running for president for 6 years), his money and the marvelous comic stylings of those running against him.

If he looses, the angry (vocal) conservatives will drop the whole thing on him for not being pure enough or something.

Pray 4 Mojo: Answers are always consistent. Nobody is receiving special treatment or being denied anything that some other group gets.

Um, derp?

Pray 4 Mojo: Yes it does.

Black guy, "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
White guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
Gay guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes

Black guy, "Can I marry a white guy?" - No
White guy. "Can I marry a white guy?" - No
Gay guy. "Can I marry a white guy?" - No

You can also replace " a white guy" with "My sister", "three white girls", "my horse" and so on.

Answers are always consistent. Nobody is receiving special treatment or being denied anything that some other group gets.

Not out of that set. But if you add:


Black girl, "Can I marry a white girl?" - No
White girl. "Can I marry a white girl?" - No
Gay girl. "Can I marry a white girl?" - No

Black girl, "Can I marry a white guy?" - Yes
White girl. "Can I marry a white guy?" - Yes
Gay girl. "Can I marry a white guy?" - Yes

All of a sudden, it's no longer consistent.

Weaver95: hubiestubert: Weaver95: If Romney fails to win against Obama his own party will eat him alive.

No they won't. He'll go back to bilking companies to run capital schemes against. It's essentially the same game he's been running on non-profits and public entities for years.

I disagree - the GOP are authoritarians, remember? when they fail in their mission(s), *someone* is at fault. someone has to be blamed and then someone will have to be punished. Romney loses to Obama and he's going to be the number 1 fall guy for the GOPs failures.

Then he'll switch states to democrat and say he was trolling the whole time?
/ then run for another office

Three Crooked Squirrels: They may be a bit worried that some evangelicals will stay home rather than vote for a Mormon.

Meh..the favorite newspaper of conservative evangelicals seems to be the Washington Times, run by an old Korean cult leader who actually claims to be the Messiah.

It's party before religion every time with these morons, although if you ask them they will always say that they put Jesus first.

Alright, moron:

Pray 4 Mojo:
Black guy, "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
White guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
Gay guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes

White girl: "Can I marry a white girl?" - No

Discrimination, follows straight from your own idiotic example.

LedZeppelinRule: Alright, moron:

Oh... now we're name calling? I see how it is.

/Sorry
//Busted
///Stuck at work and very, very bored.
////No right answer for the bigamy response yet though

Pray 4 Mojo: You can also replace " a white guy" with "My sister", "three white girls", "my horse" and so on.

Ah, so you're just pulling our legs. Carry on then.

Biological Ali: Pray 4 Mojo: You can also replace " a white guy" with "My sister", "three white girls", "my horse" and so on.

Ah, so you're just pulling our legs. Carry on then.

That's the argument my uber Catholic mother gives me when this comes up. Fortunately, it's not often. She's usually too busy watching Hannity or The Factor on DVR when I see her.

Thought it'd be funny to try it out here.

/I'll let her know how it went.

//And that some mean person called me a moron.

///Sorry if I wasted your time.

Pray 4 Mojo: ////No right answer for the bigamy response yet though

The correct answer is that there should be no prohibition against poly marriage, so long as all the participants are willing, of age and consent.

/remember that bigamy is actually the act of having two or more wives where each wife is unaware of the others, which is why it's a crime: it's a form of fraud.
//the word you were looking for is polygamy.

Dwight_Yeast: Pray 4 Mojo: ////No right answer for the bigamy response yet though

The correct answer is that there should be no prohibition against poly marriage, so long as all the participants are willing, of age and consent.

/remember that bigamy is actually the act of having two or more wives where each wife is unaware of the others, which is why it's a crime: it's a form of fraud.
//the word you were looking for is polygamy.

I stand corrected.

Admitting when I'm wrong... that's Big-a-me.

Jaws_Victim: Yes, run a campaign of bigotry and hatred. Do it. Americans love nothing better than hate. Are gay rights something worth civil warring the south over again?

I'll have to fight with those damnyankees.

alywa: Yeah, Nobambi really stepped in it now. You libs were going to vote for him anyways, so what does he get bowing down to Big Pink?

1. Nearly 80% of Zero's donations this season have come from either hollywood (efeminate left coast libs) or directly from gay and lesbian PACs and donors. Its pretty clear that he owed them.

2. It is no major secret that the Messiah is on the down low. Moochele is such an obvois fat beard... to bad for the kids, but they seem to be growing up as lib brats (according to Bamers own words, he changed his stance because he told them to)

3. What is the point of democracy if we can't vote for laws? NC (and every other state) sent a very clear message that the want MAN - WOMAN marriage, not man-boy, girl-horse, etc. Every state that has had a vote has ruled the perverts down... why is that so hard for libs to get?

4. Christian voters who were fooled by his HopeyChangey BS in the past now see who this man really is... one who will sell there own families down river, devaluing what it is to be a proper family in the eyes of the Lord.

this country is 93% Christian. We don't want our churches forced into marrying abominations. We don't want our kids being taught this is the right thing to do. Most of us yearn for a time when men were men, women were women, and the gays were in the closet or in Europe where they belong.

Watch out for the Landslide this november! Romney may not be a true conservative, but he's going to wipe the floor with your laughable excuse for a candidate.

9/10

World class trolling right there.

/slow clap

Yeah, Obama made a smart move. What is R-money going to do now? Say he's against gay marriage? OK, how much? He has to ride the derp train or lose the derp vote. Heh.

Pray 4 Mojo: Admitting when I'm wrong... that's Big-a-me.

It'sa big-a-me, too!

/love Groucho!

Ehh: Yeah, Obama made a smart move. What is R-money going to do now? Say he's against gay marriage? OK, how much? He has to ride the derp train or lose the derp vote. Heh.

It was a smart move. Obama wants to push Romney right. That is a winning strategy for Obama.

Dwight_Yeast: Pray 4 Mojo: ////No right answer for the bigamy response yet though

The correct answer is that there should be no prohibition against poly marriage, so long as all the participants are willing, of age and consent.

/remember that bigamy is actually the act of having two or more wives where each wife is unaware of the others, which is why it's a crime: it's a form of fraud.
//the word you were looking for is polygamy.

The problem of polygamy is that it's a legal nightmare. Take something as simple as divorce. If you have 3 people married, and one wants to divorce the other two, how do you split assets? You also have problems of religious groups where one man is married to several women, has multiple children with each woman, but he is the sole money maker. When he dies, that suddenly leaves several widows and lots of children without support, so you get a lot of wards of the state (this did happen).

And before you say "The government should stay out of marriage", yeah well that's never going to happen, that genie is well out of the bottle

It's good to see ol' Frothy getting back into the mix...

alywa: Yeah, Nobambi really stepped in it now. You libs were going to vote for him anyways, so what does he get bowing down to Big Pink?

1. Nearly 80% of Zero's donations this season have come from either hollywood (efeminate left coast libs) or directly from gay and lesbian PACs and donors. Its pretty clear that he owed them.

2. It is no major secret that the Messiah is on the down low. Moochele is such an obvois fat beard... to bad for the kids, but they seem to be growing up as lib brats (according to Bamers own words, he changed his stance because he told them to)

3. What is the point of democracy if we can't vote for laws? NC (and every other state) sent a very clear message that the want MAN - WOMAN marriage, not man-boy, girl-horse, etc. Every state that has had a vote has ruled the perverts down... why is that so hard for libs to get?

4. Christian voters who were fooled by his HopeyChangey BS in the past now see who this man really is... one who will sell there own families down river, devaluing what it is to be a proper family in the eyes of the Lord.

this country is 93% Christian. We don't want our churches forced into marrying abominations. We don't want our kids being taught this is the right thing to do. Most of us yearn for a time when men were men, women were women, and the gays were in the closet or in Europe where they belong.

Watch out for the Landslide this november! Romney may not be a true conservative, but he's going to wipe the floor with your laughable excuse for a candidate.

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The glitter eagle was the icing on that cake of awesome. 10/10

Churchy LaFemme: It's good to see ol' Frothy getting back into the mix...

Slick Rick back in the mix.



I'm Rick Santorum, Biatch!

/Fundie hate is a helluva drug.
//Hot like fresh santorum.

Lackofname: And before you say "The government should stay out of marriage", yeah well that's never going to happen, that genie is well out of the bottle

I'd never say that. I'm actually a fan of the system most civilized countries use, where civil and religious marriage are separate. The government has to be involved to confer rights.

Lackofname: The problem of polygamy is that it's a legal nightmare. Take something as simple as divorce. If you have 3 people married, and one wants to divorce the other two, how do you split assets? You also have problems of religious groups where one man is married to several women, has multiple children with each woman, but he is the sole money maker. When he dies, that suddenly leaves several widows and lots of children without support, so you get a lot of wards of the state (this did happen).

I know that's the common argument against poly- or plural marriage (remember that if we're really considering it, we need to include marriages involving more than one man, not just more than one woman). The issues of divorce and division of assets could be handled as we're increasingly handling them now: with a contract (pre-nup) before the actual marriage.

As to supporting the widows and orphans of a single husband, notionally, he should be expected to provide for that possible outcome. The Mormons used to handle it by letting the community take care of them (it's the origin of the Mormon social welfare system for their adherents).

As it stands, because we don't recognize plural marriage, the wives of Fundamentalist Mormons in Arizona sign up for welfare as unwed mothers. In their enclaves, almost every person receives some form of public assistance from the state. And (on top of that), they force teenage girls into marrying elderly men with no legal recourse, then drive the young men out of the community (as there are no women for them to marry).

A lot of people don't feel comfortable with the gay lifestyle, but they feel even less comfortable with denying civil rights.

namatad: turns out more than 53% of americans are in FAVOR of gay marriage. but go ahead and pretend that you know anything about america.

Then how come all of the amendments which would legally recognize same sex marriage always end up getting voted down?

/serious question

GAT_00: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I'm sure as the campaign progresses, Romney has/hasn't, does/doesn't, can/can't, will/won't support that viewpoint

/and probably all at the same time

He really hasn't said much yet. It was a good political position to take. Indies support it, though not by much, so Rmoney doesn't want to speak out against it. This will keep Indie votes, while infuriating his base that is already pretty meh on him.

I wonder if its possible to taunt the right into a third party bid.

The right is too wedded to the Republican-Democratic Electoral Machine to even consider going third party.

Thus, they've painted themselves into a corner: The Republican base won't vote for Romney because of Romney, and the independents won't vote for Romney because of the Republican base.

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What a fabulous hypocrite.

Mugato: GODDAMMIT, ENOUGH WITH THE farkING GAY MARRIAGE ALREADY

We have an economy in the shiatter, our Constitutional rights were shat upon by our last President and haven't been returned. Gitmo is still open, we're still in Afghanistan, we're on the verge of wars on three other fronts and these farking assholes are still crying about homos getting married. NO ONE BUT THE LUNATIC FRINGE CARES. Christ.

They can't though. Like I said in the Sheppard Smith thread, the GOP is going to be all over this in order to secure their hardcore base. Take a good long look at the center-right vote Republican Party, you've seen the last of it for a good while.

TsukasaK: Then how come all of the amendments which would legally recognize same sex marriage always end up getting voted down?

The Right works hard at motivating their base and most Americans who can vote don't bother. They spent tens of millions to get Pop 8 passed in Cali with something like 40% voter turnout, which is normal here in the states. In the recent French presidential election, they saw 80% turnout!

TsukasaK: namatad: turns out more than 53% of americans are in FAVOR of gay marriage. but go ahead and pretend that you know anything about america.

Then how come all of the amendments which would legally recognize same sex marriage always end up getting voted down?

/serious question

It seems like what it comes down to is the anti-marriage equality side is more motivated and better at mobilizing than than those who support it. Some people feel very strongly for or against it, but most just don't really care one way or another. So sure there are more people in favor of it, but they are going to do anything to make it happen. Look at what happen in NC this week, they voted on the bill on the day of the Republican primary, a primary which has already been decided. So turnout was low and it passed very easily.

alywa: 3. What is the point of democracy if we can't vote for laws?

There are so many inane things in your post that call attention to themselves, but this comment really stands out.

You are by no means the first to ask this question. Bigots have asked it throughout the history of our nation. For example, Southern opponents of Civil Rights asked it concerning black citizens before they took notice of gay Americans.

As my students used to say, "Haters gotta hate!"

Frothy the Snowman...

Anybody see Maher on Friday? Grover "One Trick Pony" Norquist was on the panel. The show opened with a solid ten minutes about the whole gay marriage thing.

The following is a transcript of what Norquist had to say on the subject:

(End of transcript)

So yeah, Rick, keep farking that chicken. Possibly the most polarizing figure in the entire rightwing landscape shuts the hell up and becomes invisible when the subject turns to gay marriage, but you keep on prodding Rmoney. I'm sure the party will reward you when Rmoney gets shellacked.

Pray 4 Mojo: namatad: Pray 4 Mojo: Whether you choose to accept it or not... technically... "Gay Marriage" is a special or additional 'right'. The definition of marriage being "between one man and one woman" does not discriminate against anybody. This is a fact.

so
There are a LARGE number of religious groups/churches/religions which will marry gay people.
Those marriages are treated differently that non-gay marriages.

How is this not unconstitutional?

Same way the ban on bigamy is not not Constitutional.

Biological Ali: Pray 4 Mojo: Whether you choose to accept it or not... technically... "Gay Marriage" is a special or additional 'right'. The definition of marriage being "between one man and one woman" does not discriminate against anybody. This is a fact.

Equal protection under the law does not work that way.

GRAWK! Standard narrow-minded hateful screed that pretends like the same kind of prejudice, in racial form, didn't exist 45 years ago, and that gay marriage is a violation of other people's rights. GRAWK!

The funny part is, parrots like you shrieking these same empty talking points are the best possible weapon to help people finally wake up, drop their prejudice, and tell themselves, "jackasses who compare gay marriage to bestiality are like the jackasses who used to compare mixed race marriages to bestiality. In fact, I suspect that many of them are the same jackasses."

Thus you serve to hasten the demise of your own fear and hate.

And now, have a cracker.

Pray 4 Mojo: Whether you choose to accept it or not... technically... "Gay Marriage" is a special or additional 'right'. The definition of marriage being "between one man and one woman" does not discriminate against anybody. This is a fact.

You must be using some weird definition of 'fact' that Politifact uses..

Rand Paul had some classy remarks to make:
Link

Gotta love those "Libertarians"!

Pray 4 Mojo: Black guy, "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
White guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
Gay guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes

Black guy, "Can I marry a white guy?" - No
White guy. "Can I marry a white guy?" - No
Gay guy. "Can I marry a white guy?" - No

Straight: "Can I marry the consenting adult of my choice? - Yes
Gay: "Can I marry the consenting adult of my choice? - No

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Pray 4 Mojo: Black guy, "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
White guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes
Gay guy. "Can I marry a white girl?" - Yes

Black guy, "Can I marry a white guy?" - No
White guy. "Can I marry a white guy?" - No
Gay guy. "Can I marry a white guy?" - No

Straight: "Can I marry the consenting adult of my choice? - Yes
Gay: "Can I marry the consenting adult of my choice? - No

Actually, lets make that clearer.

Straight: "Can I enter into a legal contract with the consenting adult of my choice which provides tax benefits as well as automatic power of attorney?" - Yes

Gay: "Can I enter into a legal contract with the consenting adult of my choice which provides tax benefits as well as automatic power of attorney?" - No