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2012-05-12 11:50:06 AM
WhippingBoy: I have a bottle of mercury that I somehow inherited. What should I do with it?

Leave it alone, pass it down to your kids when the time comes.

KimNorth: Can't you still collect it from the old school thermometers?

Old thermostats are a better source. They use mercury switches, a sealed globe with two wires in it plus a ball of mercury that completes the circuit when the switch is tipped at a certain angle.

KimNorth: How much Mercury did the guy get in him with the one stick of the umbrella needle for it to make him sick?? Something is way off, could it have been ricien or the like and the Government is hushing it?

Meet Karen Wetterhahn.
August 14, 1996 - exposed to a few drops of dimethyl mercury through her rubber gloves
January 1997 - symptoms appeared
June 8, 1997 - dead
 
2012-05-12 11:52:37 AM
FarkinHostile: NewWorldDan: I can just about guarantee, if I were to inject half a gram of elemental mercury into your ass, you gonna die.


No.

Elemental mercury poisoning caused by subcutaneous and intravenous injection: An unusual self-injury


Very interesting. Probably can safely say that if you inject elemental mercury into your ass, you at least have a fighting chance. The source of the article should probably be considered, however; this paper originated at an institution that had been recently "derecognized" for not meeting the standards of the Medical Council of India.

Linky
 
2012-05-12 11:52:40 AM
Oops...did I do that?
unrealitymag.com
 
2012-05-12 11:54:41 AM
FarkinHostile: NewWorldDan: I can just about guarantee, if I were to inject half a gram of elemental mercury into your ass, you gonna die.


No.

Elemental mercury poisoning caused by subcutaneous and intravenous injection: An unusual self-injury


Interesting article. Wow, people do some weird sh*t
 
2012-05-12 12:01:56 PM
Tanthalas39: FarkinHostile: NewWorldDan: I can just about guarantee, if I were to inject half a gram of elemental mercury into your ass, you gonna die.


No.

Elemental mercury poisoning caused by subcutaneous and intravenous injection: An unusual self-injury

Very interesting. Probably can safely say that if you inject elemental mercury into your ass, you at least have a fighting chance. The source of the article should probably be considered, however; this paper originated at an institution that had been recently "derecognized" for not meeting the standards of the Medical Council of India.

Linky


Would the Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Medical University of Graz, Auenbruggerplatz 5, 8036 Graz, Austria be a better source?

Auto-aggressive metallic mercury injection around the knee joint: a case report


That guy lived with injected elemental mercury in his body for 15 years before seeking medical attention. And after chelation therapy was apparently fine.


Seriously, there are many documented cases of this. Don't believe me, go research it yourself. Elemental mercury is not good, but you have much more deadly chemicals under your kitchen sink.
 
2012-05-12 12:07:22 PM
Someone call agent Dunham.

i245.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-12 12:07:59 PM
Wonder if he had a fever?

/should have been easy to tell
 
2012-05-12 12:16:15 PM
Attention to derail: Does not approve.

Precisely who I was trying to remember. Thanks for saving me from a lot of googling...
 
2012-05-12 12:16:53 PM
Learning is fun:

The lore of mercury, especially its uses in science and engineering

Pay special attention to the section "Mercury as a Poison".
 
2012-05-12 12:22:43 PM
periodictable.com
 
2012-05-12 12:23:33 PM
Sad subby? Sad is riding full speed on your bicycle, hitting a fruit cart, spinning through mid air then finding yourself suffocating whithin a police horses anus. That's sad.

\rest in peace grand pa pa
 
2012-05-12 12:23:46 PM
FarkinHostile: Learning is fun:

The lore of mercury, especially its uses in science and engineering

Pay special attention to the section "Mercury as a Poison".


Jesus, dude, fine: I'll eat your goddamn mercury!
 
2012-05-12 12:33:52 PM
Beerguy: Here is another cold war era attack that you have probably never heard of.

Superbomb Mystery: The Herrhausen Assassination


I remember when that happened, because it would have taken an insane amount of explosives to do that to a Mercedes of that era. I'd never heard that the bomb was actually planted outside the car, along the roadway!
 
2012-05-12 12:37:46 PM
Mercury is available for$45 an ounce.

You need to come up with your own syringe and umbrella.
 
2012-05-12 12:39:01 PM
NewWorldDan: danielscissorhands: A sticking plaster? Like a cast on his face?? WTF?

Plaster is a British term for bandaid. Band-aid, being an American brand, didn't become a generic term across the pond. And by sticking, I think they just mean adhesive. So the guy had an adhesive bandage on his face.


Thanks, I was wondering about this as well.
 
2012-05-12 12:42:31 PM
WhippingBoy: I have a bottle of mercury that I somehow inherited. What should I do with it?

I want to buy me a mercury.

/cruise it up and down the road
 
2012-05-12 12:57:06 PM
He had said he was attacked by a slim stranger who had a sticking plaster on his face.

dailygrail.com
 
2012-05-12 01:00:55 PM
www.scifiscoop.com

RIP Mercury Man.
 
2012-05-12 01:06:46 PM
That is some seriously F'ed up movie plot stuff. That is also a PATIENT murderer.
 
2012-05-12 01:06:52 PM
Call Ducky
 
2012-05-12 01:13:01 PM
Its the result of an Obama lightbulb.
 
2012-05-12 01:29:47 PM
I wonder why they are not conducting a murder investigation? Grievous bodily harm causing death seems like a lesser charge. Under German law does murder have induce death quickly? I don't think intent is an issue here as jabbing with an umbrella laced with something is clearly intentional. I know for better or worse in many US jurisdictions, that murder can be charged even decades after the fact if the individual caused the underlying injury that eventually killed the individual (not that I necessarily agree with that but it has been done).
 
2012-05-12 01:37:38 PM
Beerguy: Here is another cold war era attack that you have probably never heard of.

Superbomb Mystery: The Herrhausen Assassination

[www.taz.de image 640x319]

I was stationed in Germany when that happened. We were at threat-con bravo for a month after the attack.


Actually, I had heard about that one. And the Markov assassination. There was a series on Discovery back in the late 90's called Spy Tech. Narrated by Roger Moore. They went into the real world technology and techniques used in espionage and assassination, It was really great, but it was only released on VHS and isn't for sale anymore.

A shame because they had some really interesting stuff on the show. Like the OSS/MI6 squad that hunted down Nazi officers during the Allied push to Berlin; executed the officers without military trial for following the Nazi general order of killing wounded Allied paratroopers on sight rather than capturing them.
 
2012-05-12 01:52:13 PM
Upon initial examination the attending physician was heard to exclaim "Hi-yo, Silver! Away!".
 
2012-05-12 04:03:00 PM
I remember playing with little globs of (elemental) mercury when I was a kid. Just letting them run across my hand.

(The people who know me are now all joining in a chorus of "This explains so much.")
 
2012-05-12 04:10:06 PM
A German man has died after being stabbed in the backside by a stranger wielding a poison umbrella which THAT injected him with mercury, fatally poisoning him.

FFS, that shiat is annoying.
 
2012-05-12 04:13:13 PM
jigger: A German man has died after being stabbed in the backside by a stranger wielding a poison umbrella which THAT injected him with mercury, fatally poisoning him.

FFS, that shiat is annoying.


Well, I certainly know shiat about this, but "Grammar Girl" would seem to disagree:

Which Versus That
 
2012-05-12 04:42:49 PM
FarkinHostile: Tanthalas39: FarkinHostile: NewWorldDan: I can just about guarantee, if I were to inject half a gram of elemental mercury into your ass, you gonna die.


No.

Elemental mercury poisoning caused by subcutaneous and intravenous injection: An unusual self-injury

Very interesting. Probably can safely say that if you inject elemental mercury into your ass, you at least have a fighting chance. The source of the article should probably be considered, however; this paper originated at an institution that had been recently "derecognized" for not meeting the standards of the Medical Council of India.

Linky

Would the Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Medical University of Graz, Auenbruggerplatz 5, 8036 Graz, Austria be a better source?

Auto-aggressive metallic mercury injection around the knee joint: a case report


That guy lived with injected elemental mercury in his body for 15 years before seeking medical attention. And after chelation therapy was apparently fine.


Seriously, there are many documented cases of this. Don't believe me, go research it yourself. Elemental mercury is not good, but you have much more deadly chemicals under your kitchen sink.


I tried not to be a douchebag in my response to you; I see you brought the aggro anyway. *golf clap*
 
2012-05-12 04:59:55 PM
Most cars have mercury switches for their underhood lights.
 
2012-05-12 05:14:26 PM
Wut?
 
2012-05-12 06:00:09 PM
RoyFokker'sGhost: Actually, I had heard about that one. And the Markov assassination. There was a series on Discovery back in the late 90's called Spy Tech. Narrated by Roger Moore. They went into the real world technology and techniques used in espionage and assassination, It was really great, but it was only released on VHS and isn't for sale anymore.

*Dances happily.* I love Fark! I knew that I'd seen a show(s) on the Markov assassination and the copper-plate bomb used on the Mercedes, but I couldn't remember where. Time to hit the internets and see if it's available somewhere. That was a really spiffy series. Y'know, back when Discovery did GOOD shows, instead of "reality" series about fishermen and truck drivers. :P

/better than what happened to TLC, though
//pull the plug on TLC's life-support, it's been brain-dead for ages
 
2012-05-12 06:24:20 PM
Impossible. According to Farkers there is nothing wrong with injecting mercury and other poisons into your body or your childs body. It's good for you.
 
2012-05-12 06:37:21 PM
That must have been one unpleasant year.
 
2012-05-12 06:44:45 PM
FarkinHostile: Cue the posters who think elemental mercury is really, really dangerous.

Hint: it's not.


cirby: Probably wasn't plain elemental mercury.

I'd bet it was a very, very small amount of something like dimethylmercury.


While I don't claim to know about the toxicity of mercury, I know that elemental metallic lead is pretty much harmless unless you are like smelting it in an unventilated room, even then you would probably get CO poisoning first, and even at that its probably no worse than smelting any metal (even one not considered toxic like iron or something) without proper ventilation. Its the organic compounds of lead(like leaded paint and leaded gasoline) that will kill you.

Pretty much the warning labels on fishing lures and wheel weights and ammo and batteries are just plain retarded
 
2012-05-12 07:16:29 PM
RoyFokker'sGhost:
And the Markov assassination...


He shouldn't have hidden those models.



A shame because they had some really interesting stuff on the show.


They ought to have a program on interesting ways to kill people that don't leave traces coroners would look for.
 
2012-05-12 07:36:57 PM
i556.photobucket.com

RIP Freddie Mercury.
 
2012-05-12 07:45:28 PM
Mija: Impossible. According to Farkers there is nothing wrong with injecting mercury and other poisons into your body or your childs body. It's good for you.

Every doctor from Paracelsus to House, M.D. thinks you're an idiot. But don't let that stop you.
 
2012-05-12 08:23:27 PM
Mija: Impossible. According to Farkers there is nothing wrong with injecting mercury and other poisons into your body or your childs body. It's good for you.

Facepalm. Concentrations mean something.

Oh, and for fantastic irony, please tell me you believe homeopathy can cure illnesses.
 
2012-05-12 10:26:05 PM
If someone try to stick me with hypo i don't care wut, we gotta problem Houston. German dude just look at him? I mean for real --- just look at a person put a hypo in him? Are you kidding me?
 
2012-05-12 10:57:40 PM
NewWorldDan: danielscissorhands: A sticking plaster? Like a cast on his face?? WTF?


The comments on the article are hillarious too. Trying to refute the idea that a small injection of mercury won't kill you because there's small amounts of mercury in vaccines and fish and you're still alive. I can just about guarantee, if I were to inject half a gram of elemental mercury into your ass, you gonna die. By comparison, even the worst fish only has a level of about 0.0005 mg per pound. You'd have to eat nothing but shark for a year to give yourself acute mercury poisoning.


This is true, however ingesting something through the digestive tract is not nearly as potent as injecting something directly into the blood-stream. When you eat a fish, even the trace mercury that is present is mostly shat out, leaving only trace amounts of the trace amount, which is pretty much nothing. With vaccines, there might be some credible worry, as it's injected, but I'm not an expert enough to speak on the subject.

Personally, as far as seafood, I would be more worried about my "Alaskan Salmon" swimming around amongst a bunch of highly radioactive debris from Fukushima's neighborhood which is starting to make it's way to NA shores. Guaranteed that'll be a lot deadlier than the trace amount of mercury that tends to appear in fish.
 
2012-05-12 11:00:12 PM
Beerguy: RoyBatty: Beerguy: Here is another cold war era attack that you have probably never heard of.

Superbomb Mystery: The Herrhausen Assassination

[www.taz.de image 640x319]

I was stationed in Germany when that happened. We were at threat-con bravo for a month after the attack.

Thank you for my first wiki-distraction of the morning.

So, you and I share the same affliction? Anything that I see on the net that is even remotely interesting must be wikie-d.


WIkipedia has been getting a lot better in recent years (the bias is starting to be weeded out over time). I'm somewhat of a junkie of it as well.
 
2012-05-12 11:15:06 PM
I thought they used Ricin for umbrella assassinations?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov
 
2012-05-12 11:23:15 PM
BurnShrike: So much for it being quick silver.

Well played.
 
2012-05-12 11:35:15 PM
gobstopping: With vaccines, there might be some credible worry, as it's injected, but I'm not an expert enough to speak on the subject.

It's not. The mercury in vaccines where Thimerosal is used as a preservative (these have the highest concentration) is well under the FDA's guidelines which are conservative since these are based on methyl mercury and Thimerosal releases ethyl mercury which is less toxic (cleared faster). Because a bunch of parents freaked and government agencies where afraid of vaccine compliance dropping, most childhood vaccines don't even use Thimerosal as a preservative any more and only contain trace amounts from manufacturing.
 
2012-05-13 01:07:39 AM
gobstopping: This is true, however ingesting something through the digestive tract is not nearly as potent as injecting something directly into the blood-stream. When you eat a fish, even the trace mercury that is present is mostly shat out, leaving only trace amounts of the trace amount, which is pretty much nothing. With vaccines, there might be some credible worry, as it's injected, but I'm not an expert enough to speak on the subject.

This is just not true.

The mercury in fish is in a very easily absorbed form. For a start, how do you think the fish absorbed it? By eating fish! It doesn't pass through, it does get absorbed, in larger quantities (from, say, a can of tuna) than are in a vaccine.
 
2012-05-13 02:10:02 AM
Arnprior Joe

I thought they used Ricin for umbrella assassinations?

You can always spot the people who have cable TV.
 
2012-05-13 12:52:13 PM
verbal_jizm: gobstopping: With vaccines, there might be some credible worry, as it's injected, but I'm not an expert enough to speak on the subject.

It's not. The mercury in vaccines where Thimerosal is used as a preservative (these have the highest concentration) is well under the FDA's guidelines which are conservative since these are based on methyl mercury and Thimerosal releases ethyl mercury which is less toxic (cleared faster). Because a bunch of parents freaked and government agencies where afraid of vaccine compliance dropping, most childhood vaccines don't even use Thimerosal as a preservative any more and only contain trace amounts from manufacturing.


From what I heard, the problem is that vaccines are economical in big bottles you meter doses out of with clean syringes. However, the seal is compromised once the first needle goes in, and thimerisol is a necessary preservative.

Banning thimerisol meant little single-use bottles, which were much more expensive.
 
2012-05-13 01:24:09 PM
Tanthalas39:

I tried not to be a douchebag in my response to you; I see you brought the aggro anyway. *golf clap*


Sweetheart, if you think that my response was "aggro", then you would be shocked, shocked I say, to see me really heated.

Presenting evidence in a discussion is not "aggro". There was no name calling, no attempts at shaming, just presenting rebuttal evidence to your post. Sorry if I bruised anyones ego. I can be blunt. (shrugs)
 
2012-05-13 04:18:55 PM
Oznog: verbal_jizm: gobstopping: With vaccines, there might be some credible worry, as it's injected, but I'm not an expert enough to speak on the subject.

It's not. The mercury in vaccines where Thimerosal is used as a preservative (these have the highest concentration) is well under the FDA's guidelines which are conservative since these are based on methyl mercury and Thimerosal releases ethyl mercury which is less toxic (cleared faster). Because a bunch of parents freaked and government agencies where afraid of vaccine compliance dropping, most childhood vaccines don't even use Thimerosal as a preservative any more and only contain trace amounts from manufacturing.

From what I heard, the problem is that vaccines are economical in big bottles you meter doses out of with clean syringes. However, the seal is compromised once the first needle goes in, and thimerisol is a necessary preservative.

Banning thimerisol meant little single-use bottles, which were much more expensive.


Yeah, the parents that freaked out now cost everyone more money. Oh, and lower compliance anyway, since they decided to find other reasons to freak out about vaccines. Some people should be sterilized.
 
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