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(Media Matters)   Rush Limbaugh recommends un-saving the auto industry, raising Bin Laden from the dead, undoing the banking reforms, sending 100,000 troops back to Iraq, and slashing 40% off the Dow. Seriously   (mediamatters.org) divider line 193
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2012-05-12 09:43:59 AM  

Spaz-master: It's his listeners that promote his statements. You're wanting to wrestle with 30 million people, not the voice box.


Have you tried talking with a Rush listener? Reality isn't their strong suit.
 
2012-05-12 09:46:05 AM  

Spaz-master: I love how much people hate the guy. You all assume that you will take Rush down with some "well crafted answer". You still don't get it.


I don't think people 'hate rush limbaugh'. I think people dislike what he's got to say...and I think its safe to say that very few people actually respect Mr. Limbaugh...but there's not a lot of actual hatred for the guy.

I think that, in the end, Rush is just going to end up fading away. he'll lose sponsors, lose his show, and one by one his powerful friends will stop calling in to check on him. Rush will spiral downward, eventually ending up with nothing but fading memories and dreams of power.
 
2012-05-12 09:54:11 AM  

Spaz-master: You're wanting to wrestle with 30 15 million people


FTFY.

"The No. 1 spot [in 2012] continued to belong to Rush Limbaugh, whose audience is an estimated 15 million weekly listeners, a number unchanged from the year before. Sean Hannity maintained his spot as the second most listened-to talk radio host in the U.S., with 14 million weekly listeners."

Source: Pew Research State of News Media 2012 (scroll down to "Talk Radio Hosts" section at bottom of page)
 
2012-05-12 10:11:32 AM  
I've recently switched my "I'm bored with what I have on my iPod" listening from Rush to a station that does traffic and weather on the 8's, interspersed with more commercials than news, and it's been quite relaxing.

Rush boils the blood on both sides.
 
2012-05-12 10:14:51 AM  

Weaver95: Limbaugh sounds desperate.

fat.

ftfy
 
2012-05-12 10:19:55 AM  
But..but..but....Romney said he was the one who saved the auto industry!
 
2012-05-12 10:23:48 AM  
Right...because things were SO much better under Bush. *cough* *No Child Left Behind* *cough* Patriot Act* *cough* *War on Terror* *cough* *record high gas* *cough* *worst recession ever* *cough* *took national debt to the trillion dollar mark* *cough*
 
2012-05-12 10:24:59 AM  

acad1228: Subby, could you provide a link to where he actually said we should raise Bin Laden from the dead? Media Matters seems to have changed to a different clip in the link provided.


i230.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-12 10:27:46 AM  

Edsel: I guess that's the logical consequence of not believing that Obama can do anything right. My impression is that when somebody does point out something that he inarguably did right, they'll just credit it to Bush or say that anybody would have done the same.

Of course, we used to feel the same about Bush, although it's hard to argue that he DID do anything right. I recall we did give him credit for investing in anti-HIV programs in Africa though.


The funny thing is that when I ask my Conservative/Republican friends what Bush accomplish the only thing they come up with is "He kept us safe".

Only liberals or moderates think his work with AIDs in Africa was an accomplishment.
 
2012-05-12 10:29:56 AM  

Aldon: Edsel: I guess that's the logical consequence of not believing that Obama can do anything right. My impression is that when somebody does point out something that he inarguably did right, they'll just credit it to Bush or say that anybody would have done the same.

Of course, we used to feel the same about Bush, although it's hard to argue that he DID do anything right. I recall we did give him credit for investing in anti-HIV programs in Africa though.

The funny thing is that when I ask my Conservative/Republican friends what Bush accomplish the only thing they come up with is "He kept us safe".

Only liberals or moderates think his work with AIDs in Africa was an accomplishment.


He did a great job of keeping us safe.

Except for that one day in September...
 
ecl
2012-05-12 10:33:14 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Aldon: Edsel: I guess that's the logical consequence of not believing that Obama can do anything right. My impression is that when somebody does point out something that he inarguably did right, they'll just credit it to Bush or say that anybody would have done the same.

Of course, we used to feel the same about Bush, although it's hard to argue that he DID do anything right. I recall we did give him credit for investing in anti-HIV programs in Africa though.

The funny thing is that when I ask my Conservative/Republican friends what Bush accomplish the only thing they come up with is "He kept us safe".

Only liberals or moderates think his work with AIDs in Africa was an accomplishment.

He did a great job of keeping us safe.

Except for that one day in September...


www.motifake.com

His accomplishments are well documented.
 
2012-05-12 10:41:54 AM  
EnviroDude (favorite: Since when do wingnuts care about the environment?): Saving the auto industry? You mean by taking them into bankruptcy so they could stiff the stockholders and allow others to purchase it?

As opposed to the Publican plan, which was "let Detroit implode", which would still have stiffed the stockholders.

Raising Bin Laden from the dead? When the only positive of your foreign policy is snuffing this guy, is this a good thing (and for what it is worth, I would rather him be dead).

Because leaving the rest of the world the fark alone is a major foreign policy fail.

Troops in Iraq? You mean, adhering to the Bush withdrawal plan.

The george w. bush withdrawal plan was "troops in Iraq until Hell freezes over" and you know it.

And regarding the stock market.....if you think it is "stable", then invest heavily

Yeah, the stock market is so crowded that nobody goes there anymore.

Now look at what hasn't happened under Obama - Unemployment isn't 8.1%. No Wall Street fat cat has gone to jail for fraud, including Corzine (d) for stealing billiiiiions.

O RLY?

And your children each owe $50K to their share of the debt.

It's a good thing that you're outraged about the deficit. Now how long will you stay outraged the next time a Publican sits in the Oval Office?
 
2012-05-12 10:42:00 AM  

Weaver95: Summercat: Weaver95: Limbaugh sounds desperate.

He is having trouble being unique in a sea of Tea Hard Despiracy Theorists.

possibly...but the fact is that Rush isn't as effective as he used to be....plus, his show is still bleeding sponsors. nobody wants to advertise with him anymore unless they're hard core right wing or simply clueless.

I think he might be in a lot of trouble. weirdly enough, Obama getting re-elected might be what saves Limbaugh's show. it could trigger a resurgence of advertisers coming back to him, since the Powers That Be will need SOMEONE to keep the masses pissed off while the GOP rides out term 2 Obama.


Can the GOP survive the 2nd term? They are already coming apart at the seams, tearing each other to pieces for the right to undo Obama. When they are left in 2nd place, will they be able to reform into the single minded hate and false news machine they once were?
 
2012-05-12 10:42:37 AM  

LasersHurt: Edsel: I guess that's the logical consequence of not believing that Obama can do anything right. My impression is that when somebody does point out something that he inarguably did right, they'll just credit it to Bush or say that anybody would have done the same.

Of course, we used to feel the same about Bush, although it's hard to argue that he DID do anything right. I recall we did give him credit for investing in anti-HIV programs in Africa though.

Oh yeah, he DID do that. Well, there's that. Which is nice.


Didn't he even screw that up by tying the anti-HIV programs to missionaries, so that the only people who would be helped were those who accepted Jesus?
 
2012-05-12 10:43:29 AM  

Ed Finnerty: When one's only point is to argue against another's point, one has no point.


assets0.ordienetworks.com
 
2012-05-12 10:44:29 AM  
came here to see the socialist apologists come out in force
left satisfied.
 
2012-05-12 10:44:44 AM  
I think we found the major flaw in the Republican Attack Plan: they're so used to pointing back to a 'golden age' that they seem to forget they've been responsible for the majority of the last four decades worth of insanity. It's hard to pretend that your party is angry about the government when they've been the government for as long as most people can remember. And now that most of the people in the country are those who were born post-1950s, that 'Golden Age' shiat no longer works.

This has been a Republican problem for a few years, ever since they realized Dubya's eight-year shiatfest was going to be remembered with the same fondness as Nixon. At first, they thought of Reagan and using the '80s for that, which was a good idea. But that quickly fell apart as Reagan wasn't as right-wing as the Republicans are today and certainly wasn't as fondly remembered by the media, who started picking him apart and co-opting him (like Obama has successfully done, more or less). Distraught, the Republicans made their biggest mistake: they went back all the way to 1776 and pushed the Teabagger meme, thinking it would allow them to use the Founding Fathers and stake the ultimate territory of the backwards-looking conservative. Unfortunately, the mentality of the current-day Republicans is a very paranoid one based around a very strict masculinity: having people walk around in tights and wool and talk about tea does not fit that scared image of Joe Six Pack. Ever since the Teabaggers started voting out Senior Republicans and posting YouTube videos of themselves spouting homophobic word salad, the Republicans have been in constant search for some Golden Age to stake out and claim as their own. Rush is trying to see if he can rewrite Dubya's reign as something to look back on as the Republicans are now all out of ideas: Nixon means Watergate, Reagan means the shiatty economy we have today thanks to his actions, Bush I is a sad one-term failure who pals around with Clinton to distance himself from the Worst President in Living Memory, and Dubya is so toxic that trying to rewrite his last eight years will only lead to more exposure of exactly how hard he farked us over, and why Republicans should be voted out en masse.

Rush is on a suicide run, apparently. If Nixon is still getting shiat for Watergate forty years later, Dubya might be a possible Golden Age in the year 2538: there's so much in Dubya's administration that it will provide ammo to the Democrats for years to come. But the interesting thing is how much Rush's credit has fallen in the past few months, and how interesting it is to see how the Republican Party uses him now. He's gone from watercarrier to waterboy, an expendable has-been whose purpose isn't exhausted but is nowhere near flattering. He's floundering in a market that treasures looks over content, and he not one to provide content. He's gone from ersatz leader of the Republican Party to 'the guy who tosses out anything to see if it sticks to see if the Party can use this while it collapses in slow motion.' Limbaugh probably thinks he's being clever pushing more anti-woman rhetoric, but it's just another naked grab for retirement funds from a man whose ego has now finally bested him. He didn't fall as fast as everybody wanted him to, but that doesn't mean the loss of cash from his bosses doesn't mean he's slowly being put out to pasture along with most of the other pundits who were made during the Bush Administration and broken as soon as everybody realized how full of shiat they were.

In a way, it's fitting: a lot of radio hosts are seeing the destruction of radio and digging in or moving on. Howard Stern is going to reality TV in an attempt to finally break into a media that isn't changing back to a locally-based information source. And Rush, the head of a dying medium, is now of no use. We'll get some more 'outrageous' stuff from him to curry interest, but it's apparent that his idea of shockjocking to get ratings doesn't really accomplish the attention he wants, but rather the confusion of why this fat loser could get control of a major political party, and what that says about both the Republican Party's future stability and how the medium of radio will change over the course of the next decade or two. All of Rush's sad stunts aren't shocking and offensive, they're sad and pathetic. And it says a lot about the Republicans, Rush himself, and the state of radio that two big 'controversial' things in the past week from Limbaugh are met with a tepid response. They're offensive, but nobody gives a shiat what the fat man on the radio blabbering about his masters says anymore.
 
2012-05-12 10:46:05 AM  
I'm very conservative in this matter.
Don't change the past.

The Time-paradoxes will have a significant negative impact.


/Entropy
 
2012-05-12 10:46:45 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: came here to see the socialist apologists come out in force
left satisfied.


Got nothing huh?
 
2012-05-12 10:46:47 AM  
So his advice is to go back to when Reagan proved that deficits don't matter?
 
2012-05-12 10:48:12 AM  

Expolaris:

Can the GOP survive the 2nd term? They are already coming apart at the seams, tearing each other to pieces for the right to undo Obama. When they are left in 2nd place, will they be able to reform into the single minded hate and false news machine they once were?


I think the GOP will be around for a while yet. there's no viable alternative to 'em right now, plus our entire government is structured so that ONLY the Republicans and Democrats can effectively control congress. not to mention that the GOP still has a large voter base that will reflexively vote Republican no matter what the GOP actually says or does. so unless a comet or plague wipes out half the US government and a significant number of voters at the same time...we're stuck with the Republicans for a while more.

But we don't need the GOP to collapse completely...we just need them to lose about 20% more of their congressional seats. that would make things very interesting indeed.
 
2012-05-12 10:49:07 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: EnviroDude (favorite: Since when do wingnuts care about the environment?): Saving the auto industry? You mean by taking them into bankruptcy so they could stiff the stockholders and allow others to purchase it?

As opposed to the Publican plan, which was "let Detroit implode", which would still have stiffed the stockholders.


That's the thing I love about this talking point. Do they really think that any outcome would result in a net positive for the shareholders?

If so, they lack a fundamental grasp of how bankruptcies work. Because if there wasn't a bailout, Detroit would've implode and those shareholders would've still be left out in the cold.
 
2012-05-12 10:57:43 AM  

acad1228: Subby, could you provide a link to where he actually said we should raise Bin Laden from the dead? Media Matters seems to have changed to a different clip in the link provided.


You are really really dumb.
 
2012-05-12 11:00:49 AM  

jake_lex: Glenford: Ed Finnerty: When one's only point is to argue against another's point, one has no point.

That's not an argument, that's just contradiction. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.

No it isn't.


Yes it IS!
 
2012-05-12 11:09:27 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: came here to see the socialist apologists come out in force
left satisfied.

 
2012-05-12 11:10:18 AM  

vernonFL: He's just trolling now.


The last act of a man who sees the world pass him by and renders him as but an anachronism of a bygone era.
 
ecl
2012-05-12 11:16:43 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: I think we found the major flaw in the Republican Attack Plan: they're so used to pointing back to a 'golden age' that they seem to forget they've been responsible for the majority of the last four decades worth of insanity. It's hard to pretend that your party is angry about the government when they've been the government for as long as most people can remember. And now that most of the people in the country are those who were born post-1950s, that 'Golden Age' shiat no longer works.

This has been a Republican problem for a few years, ever since they realized Dubya's eight-year shiatfest was going to be remembered with the same fondness as Nixon. At first, they thought of Reagan and using the '80s for that, which was a good idea. But that quickly fell apart as Reagan wasn't as right-wing as the Republicans are today and certainly wasn't as fondly remembered by the media, who started picking him apart and co-opting him (like Obama has successfully done, more or less). Distraught, the Republicans made their biggest mistake: they went back all the way to 1776 and pushed the Teabagger meme, thinking it would allow them to use the Founding Fathers and stake the ultimate territory of the backwards-looking conservative. Unfortunately, the mentality of the current-day Republicans is a very paranoid one based around a very strict masculinity: having people walk around in tights and wool and talk about tea does not fit that scared image of Joe Six Pack. Ever since the Teabaggers started voting out Senior Republicans and posting YouTube videos of themselves spouting homophobic word salad, the Republicans have been in constant search for some Golden Age to stake out and claim as their own. Rush is trying to see if he can rewrite Dubya's reign as something to look back on as the Republicans are now all out of ideas: Nixon means Watergate, Reagan means the shiatty economy we have today thanks to his actions, Bush I is a sad one-term failure who pals around with Clin ...


You should send that in as an op-ed somewhere. Or add it to Rush's wiki page.
 
2012-05-12 11:20:33 AM  

biglot: Attaturk, Rushbo. Just like in football. Head over to the sideline, watch a replay. Do a do over.


www.badassoftheweek.com

Doesn't quite see what you did there.
 
2012-05-12 11:25:50 AM  
rush limbaugh makes osama bin laden look like kate smith.
 
2012-05-12 11:31:45 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: came here to see the socialist apologists come out in force
left satisfied.


As long as you leave, I don't think any of the rest of us care why you did it.
 
2012-05-12 11:33:15 AM  

Man On A Mission: Spaz-master: You're wanting to wrestle with 30 15 million people

FTFY.

"The No. 1 spot [in 2012] continued to belong to Rush Limbaugh, whose audience is an estimated 15 million weekly listeners, a number unchanged from the year before. Sean Hannity maintained his spot as the second most listened-to talk radio host in the U.S., with 14 million weekly listeners."

Source: Pew Research State of News Media 2012 (scroll down to "Talk Radio Hosts" section at bottom of page)


Those are not "individual" listeners. To get the number of real listeners, you have to divide that 15 by the 5 days a week he is on, which gets you closer to the real number about 3 million, and even this number is suspect.
 
2012-05-12 11:34:43 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: I think we found the major flaw in the Republican Attack Plan: they're so used to pointing back to a 'golden age' that they seem to forget they've been responsible for the majority of the last four decades worth of insanity. It's hard to pretend that your party is angry about the government when they've been the government for as long as most people can remember. And now that most of the people in the country are those who were born post-1950s, that 'Golden Age' shiat no longer works.

This has been a Republican problem for a few years, ever since they realized Dubya's eight-year shiatfest was going to be remembered with the same fondness as Nixon. At first, they thought of Reagan and using the '80s for that, which was a good idea. But that quickly fell apart as Reagan wasn't as right-wing as the Republicans are today and certainly wasn't as fondly remembered by the media, who started picking him apart and co-opting him (like Obama has successfully done, more or less). Distraught, the Republicans made their biggest mistake: they went back all the way to 1776 and pushed the Teabagger meme, thinking it would allow them to use the Founding Fathers and stake the ultimate territory of the backwards-looking conservative. Unfortunately, the mentality of the current-day Republicans is a very paranoid one based around a very strict masculinity: having people walk around in tights and wool and talk about tea does not fit that scared image of Joe Six Pack. Ever since the Teabaggers started voting out Senior Republicans and posting YouTube videos of themselves spouting homophobic word salad, the Republicans have been in constant search for some Golden Age to stake out and claim as their own. Rush is trying to see if he can rewrite Dubya's reign as something to look back on as the Republicans are now all out of ideas: Nixon means Watergate, Reagan means the shiatty economy we have today thanks to his actions, Bush I is a sad one-term failure who pals around with Clinton to dista ...


I get by with a little help from my friends !
Since the best plan out there to reduce the hemorrhaging in Washington [ Mordor On The Potomac ] IE : Paul Ryan's plan only reduces the rate of growth !
Since we are on a suicide slide I would say both parties are responsible ! The Dem's had the purse strings for 40 years !
 
2012-05-12 11:40:57 AM  

Edsel: I guess that's the logical consequence of not believing that Obama can do anything right. My impression is that when somebody does point out something that he inarguably did right, they'll just credit it to Bush or say that anybody would have done the same.

Of course, we used to feel the same about Bush, although it's hard to argue that he DID do anything right. I recall we did give him credit for investing in anti-HIV programs in Africa though.


He also signed on the dotted line for that protected aquatic zone near Hawaii - probably the best thing he did in his time in office.
 
2012-05-12 11:42:31 AM  

Spaz-master: I love how much people hate the guy. You all assume that you will take Rush down with some "well crafted answer". You still don't get it.


Yeah, self-affirming ignorance and hate will always find a willing audience. But if we mock the big, fat, idiot enough hopefully that audience will keep to a minimum.
 
2012-05-12 11:49:31 AM  
Leave Rush alone. Pudding is delicious and he simply wants to know whar it is.
 
2012-05-12 11:50:46 AM  

HallsOfMandos: Ed Finnerty: When one's only point is to argue against another's point, one has no point.

[MPFC Argument Clinic Sketch]


Showed up for that. Happy now.

Wow, Rush Limbaugh really wants America to Fail, doesn't he?

I really hope Limbaugh fails.

I hope the righteous anti-Rush consumer boycott succeeds.

He poisoned American political discourse for decades now.

Time to go.
 
2012-05-12 11:52:29 AM  

Aldon: The funny thing is that when I ask my Conservative/Republican friends what Bush accomplish the only thing they come up with is "He kept us safe".


Heh. So the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan weren't accomplishments, and thousands of Americans have died in those wars. So . . . what was that about safety again?
 
2012-05-12 11:56:03 AM  
Professional Drivel.
Most coarse.
 
2012-05-12 11:57:11 AM  

The Name: Aldon: The funny thing is that when I ask my Conservative/Republican friends what Bush accomplish the only thing they come up with is "He kept us safe".

Heh. So the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan weren't accomplishments, and thousands of Americans have died in those wars. So . . . what was that about safety again?


Bush safety: 3000
Obama safety: 0
 
2012-05-12 12:01:05 PM  

The Name: Aldon: The funny thing is that when I ask my Conservative/Republican friends what Bush accomplish the only thing they come up with is "He kept us safe".

Heh. So the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan weren't accomplishments, and thousands of Americans have died in those wars. So . . . what was that about safety again?


Ah, stoploss theory; is there anything it can't justify!
 
2012-05-12 12:02:46 PM  

Mugato: Why do people listen to this person? Why did anyone ever listen to this person? It's not like he has any qualifications, education or experience. He's a Fark troll with a microphone. And a bad one at that.


He used to grant interviews where he'd outright tell the interviewer that he was a shock-jock. On many occasions he explained how you had to be informative or entertaining. He explained how he took his cues from the like of Don Imus and Howard Stern, who proved that entertaining wasn't always equivalent to funny, and that if you say inflammatory things that anger people you will get ratings. He's on record claiming that he doesn't necessarily believe the things he says; he just knows how to make himself and his employer a lot of money.
 
2012-05-12 12:03:59 PM  
What can I say to piss off the libs? Oh I know. "......................................."

/dance monkies, dance!
 
2012-05-12 12:07:00 PM  
Limbaugh is old, and will have no trouble stretching what's left of his career out to a graceful retirement age. His media is dying, let alone his hackneyed show, and neither he nor any of his fellow AM poopchutes will be around much longer.
Let him fade away in peace - we were idiots to ever listen to him, and it's way too late to excoriate him for our foolishness and lack of taste.
 
2012-05-12 12:08:27 PM  

Mr.Tangent: What can I say to piss off the libs? Oh I know. "......................................."

/dance monkies, dance!


But....I love dancing monkeys - that isn't going to work!
 
2012-05-12 12:10:07 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Mugato: Why do people listen to this person? Why did anyone ever listen to this person? It's not like he has any qualifications, education or experience. He's a Fark troll with a microphone. And a bad one at that.

He used to grant interviews where he'd outright tell the interviewer that he was a shock-jock. On many occasions he explained how you had to be informative or entertaining. He explained how he took his cues from the like of Don Imus and Howard Stern, who proved that entertaining wasn't always equivalent to funny, and that if you say inflammatory things that anger people you will get ratings. He's on record claiming that he doesn't necessarily believe the things he says; he just knows how to make himself and his employer a lot of money.


And yet a whole political party kowtows to this man.
 
2012-05-12 12:13:40 PM  
Grandpa is off his meds - again.
 
2012-05-12 12:15:49 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Mugato: Why do people listen to this person? Why did anyone ever listen to this person? It's not like he has any qualifications, education or experience. He's a Fark troll with a microphone. And a bad one at that.

He used to grant interviews where he'd outright tell the interviewer that he was a shock-jock. On many occasions he explained how you had to be informative or entertaining. He explained how he took his cues from the like of Don Imus and Howard Stern, who proved that entertaining wasn't always equivalent to funny, and that if you say inflammatory things that anger people you will get ratings. He's on record claiming that he doesn't necessarily believe the things he says; he just knows how to make himself and his employer a lot of money.


So he is a greedy disgusting prick.

He is a vile pice of filth, regardless of politics. A prime example of what happens when you sell your decency for money.
 
2012-05-12 12:17:43 PM  

John Paul Jones: That's basically the only thing in there that makes any sense at all.


He hasn't gone to jail YET. They're still trying to figure out what the hell happened at MF Global.
 
2012-05-12 12:22:59 PM  

AcneVulgaris: jake_lex: Glenford: Ed Finnerty: When one's only point is to argue against another's point, one has no point.

That's not an argument, that's just contradiction. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.

No it isn't.

Yes it IS!


IS NOT!
 
2012-05-12 12:25:48 PM  

EnviroDude: And regarding the stock market.....if you think it is "stable", then invest heavily.


Behold EnviroDude and his MAGICAL CRYSTAL BALL
 
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