Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(LJWorld)   On its last day in session, Kansas legislature ignores trivial matters like the budget and redistricting to deal with apocalyptic threats posed by Sharia law and UN Agenda 21   (www2.ljworld.com ) divider line
    More: Asinine, Kansas Legislature, United Nations Agenda, Kansas, sustainable development, redistricting, state legislature, Overland Park, American way of life  
•       •       •

2173 clicks; posted to Politics » on 12 May 2012 at 7:04 AM (4 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



142 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-05-12 09:13:46 AM  

zappaisfrank: The United States Great Plains region is home to some of the most backwards thinking individuals ever. I lived out there for a year back in the 80's in a very small town and was dumbfounded by the level of sheer unadulterated stupidity that I saw there. It was like a flatter, treeless version of "The South" without the "rebel" chip on their shoulder. The residents were basically nice people, they were just dullards who had lived in a kind of isolation for generations and hadn't advanced. The town reminded me of the one in "The Last Picture Show" only the locals had cable TV. The dust storms blew all the intelligence away years ago. The massive open expanses of nothingness have caused a sort of collective brain atrophy from lack of stimulation.


i4.ytimg.com
 
2012-05-12 09:19:33 AM  
I'm deeply concerned about the threat of Roman law. They go around crucifying Christians.

But I hear there are some bad parts, too.

Say no to Agenda XXI!!!!!!11!
 
2012-05-12 09:25:44 AM  

Conthan: bulldg4life: But state Sen. Tim Owens, R-Overland Park, said the bill was unnecessary because courts already are ruled by United State laws and the U.S. Constitution. He said the bill was based on intolerance and fear and would make people think only those with a Christian, religious-right perspective were welcome in Kansas.

This poor guy is going to be in a lot of trouble for being sane.

He might be fine, considering he is from Overland Park, which is relatively progressive compared to places like Fundieland aka Wichita.


Key word there is relatively.

Still a nice place though.
 
2012-05-12 09:28:56 AM  

jayhawk88: Oh Christ, I just looked up Agenda 21. NINETEEN FARKING NINETY TWO????? You're flipping out over a UN resolution passed in 1992? You can't even focus your crazy on something done in the past decade, you have to go back to something that predates the whole of Bush2 and damn near gets to Bush1? TWENTY FARKING YEARS!

Goddamn it I am just so done with this bullshiat.


The real funny thing is they're afraid that an organization that needs to hold peace summits on where to order out for lunch is going to subvert US law and institute a New World Order.

It's like being worried that the EU is going to take over the world.
 
2012-05-12 09:31:30 AM  
Sorta related to UN derspiracies...

Why are those types of people so paranoid about a formation of a North American Union of Canada, the US, and Mexico?

By my mind, it'd be dominated politically and economically by Americans...
 
2012-05-12 09:40:43 AM  

born_yesterday: Yeah. Sharia law. Because it would suck to be forced to live in a fundamentalist theocracy ruled by the laws of the God of Abraham. No good American would claim to want that.


What's funny is that Israel has Sharia courts for Muslims to deal with matters of divorce, contracts, etc. Mention that to a wingnut and their head explodes.
 
2012-05-12 09:40:55 AM  

jayhawk88: So, probably no cost of living raise again (third year in a row? I stopped keeping track) for me this year, but you came out opposing not one, but two, magical threats. Thanks, assclowns.


On the plus side, we'll probably get to pay higher taxes so that job creators like the Koch brothers can get a huge tax cut. Wait...that doesn't benefit us at all!
 
2012-05-12 09:42:10 AM  

gingerjet: born_yesterday: Yeah. Sharia law. Because it would suck to be forced to live in a fundamentalist theocracy ruled by the laws of the God of Abraham. No good American would claim to want that.

What's funny is that Israel has Sharia courts for Muslims to deal with matters of divorce, contracts, etc. Mention that to a wingnut and their head explodes.


Besides, how many Muslims live in Kansas? 5?

And I bet they all live in Overland Park too...

/semi-serious
 
2012-05-12 09:43:01 AM  

Summercat: Sorta related to UN derspiracies...

Why are those types of people so paranoid about a formation of a North American Union of Canada, the US, and Mexico?

By my mind, it'd be dominated politically and economically by Americans...


Here - I'll summarize the issue for you:

1. There is a group of people who are basically religiously motivated xenophobes. These are the people who want to make it illegal to be gay, black, presbytarian, educated, foreign - essentially, they want everyone to be just like them. Intentionally ign'nt and stuck in the 13th century.

2. They have accomplished this goal to some extent, by clumping together so that they can control their local government and local society.

3. They don't know much, but they have figured out that most everyone on the planet disagrees with their pro-ign'nt platform.

4. They have further identified that whenever they let outsiders (people living more than 35 miles away) have any say whatsoever in anything at all, the outsiders invariably try to make these people change their ign'nt ways. And they hate that.

5. Moreover, this effect just gets worse the further away the outsiders are.

6. Thus, the strategic plan for our ign'nt friends is to make all government as local as possible, so that they can keep voting themselves into ign'nance.

7. So they resist state power in favor of local government. They resist Federal power in favor of state government. And when you start including the furreners - well, you might as well have just invited Satan in to assrape your daughter.

8. So, really, they are just trying to protect their daughters' asses from rape.

9. Because daughter-assrape is a father's duty.

Did that clear it up for you?
 
2012-05-12 09:52:41 AM  
So funny to hear liberals whine about laws being passed "preventing Sharia law"

Hey...psst...Liberals. Sharia Law does not go after people with conservative values...it goes after those with Liberal values. Sharia Law does not allow things like homosexuality, free speech, free thought, rights for women, or legislation so people can vote on those things. Or allow people to vote, period

God, I cannot believe how FartInhaling stupid Liberals can be.

Oh, and, for you Globalist NutJobs....the anti-Agenda 21 thing was a RESOLUTION, not a BILL. So you Unpunished Nazis supporters can rest a little easier, OK. Brush up on the Civics and US Govt, though
 
2012-05-12 09:52:44 AM  
 
2012-05-12 09:54:59 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Hey...psst...Liberals. Sharia Law does not go after people with conservative values...it goes after those with Liberal values.


Probably trolling, but what the hey:

Hey...psst...moron. Supremacy clause.
 
2012-05-12 09:55:57 AM  

Mentat: One of the Kansas Republicans wanted to sell off the University of Kansas Hospital because he didn't want the government involved in the hospital business.


*facepalm*
 
2012-05-12 09:56:05 AM  

Rambino: Half of Agenda 21 here. (aka the Rio Declaration).

Read it and be horrified at the huge manatee.

The second part of Agenda 21 is about the same, only with more forest.


It was never enacted. I came across this little but of trivia in my research of a related, though different, project. I was reading up on Rio and it was pretty plainly stated that Agenda 21 was never actually enacted.
So, these people, in addition to being nuts, can't read of do research.
 
2012-05-12 09:58:18 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Besides, how many Muslims live in Kansas? 5?

And I bet they all live in Overland Park too...

/semi-serious


Knowing Iowa and Oklahoma - quite a few I would imagine. Usually people doing IT or call center jobs who basically want to be left alone.
 
2012-05-12 09:58:54 AM  

trotsky: It was never enacted.


That's what they want you to think.
 
2012-05-12 09:59:54 AM  

gingerjet: Mrtraveler01: Besides, how many Muslims live in Kansas? 5?

And I bet they all live in Overland Park too...

/semi-serious

Knowing Iowa and Oklahoma - quite a few I would imagine. Usually people doing IT or call center jobs who basically want to be left alone.


If I was an immigrant who came to the US and had to settle in one of those two states, I'd wonder which God I pissed off to subject me to that.
 
2012-05-12 10:01:48 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: So funny to hear liberals whine about laws being passed "preventing Sharia law"

Hey...psst...Liberals. Sharia Law does not go after people with conservative values...it goes after those with Liberal values. Sharia Law does not allow things like homosexuality, free speech, free thought, rights for women, or legislation so people can vote on those things. Or allow people to vote, period

God, I cannot believe how FartInhaling stupid Liberals can be.

Oh, and, for you Globalist NutJobs....the anti-Agenda 21 thing was a RESOLUTION, not a BILL. So you Unpunished Nazis supporters can rest a little easier, OK. Brush up on the Civics and US Govt, though


Oh, just shut up. It's a waste of time and money. You're an idiot for even trying to defend it being on the agenda of a State Legislature. Better go hoard guns and food when the UN comes.
 
2012-05-12 10:01:51 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Mentat: One of the Kansas Republicans wanted to sell off the University of Kansas Hospital because he didn't want the government involved in the hospital business.

*facepalm*


Can I move back to Missouri? Or would that be too much like dumping an abusive husband to move in with an abusive lover?
 
2012-05-12 10:02:00 AM  

Mentat: One of the Kansas Republicans wanted to sell off the University of Kansas Hospital because he didn't want the government involved in the hospital business.


That's actually a lot less crazy. He just proposed a study to think about it, and it isn't like there aren't private hospitals around - and not all state schools have their own hospitals either.

So not necessarily all that radical, methinks.
 
2012-05-12 10:04:18 AM  

Mrtraveler01: gingerjet: Mrtraveler01: Besides, how many Muslims live in Kansas? 5?

And I bet they all live in Overland Park too...

/semi-serious

Knowing Iowa and Oklahoma - quite a few I would imagine. Usually people doing IT or call center jobs who basically want to be left alone.

If I was an immigrant who came to the US and had to settle in one of those two states, I'd wonder which God I pissed off to subject me to that.


Big difference between Iowa and Oklahoma... Iowa is an interesting mix of derp and open minds, while Oklahoman are just people who couldn't afford to move to Texas.
 
2012-05-12 10:06:43 AM  

Mrtraveler01: If I was an immigrant who came to the US and had to settle in one of those two states, I'd wonder which God I pissed off to subject me to that.


Why exactly? I helped an Iowan company staff up a department - I would say at least 3/4s of the people we interviewed were Muslim (we didn't ask - this is just the case with certain class of immigrants) - most of which would of dropped everything and moved to the area within a day because its a 100 times better than staying in New Jersey or other areas of the country. Now I wouldn't personally be caught dead being in Iowa for any length of time - but for many others - its a much better (and cheaper) life.
 
2012-05-12 10:10:45 AM  

Rambino: Mentat: One of the Kansas Republicans wanted to sell off the University of Kansas Hospital because he didn't want the government involved in the hospital business.

That's actually a lot less crazy. He just proposed a study to think about it, and it isn't like there aren't private hospitals around - and not all state schools have their own hospitals either.

So not necessarily all that radical, methinks.


It's not at all radical until you consider that the state is trying to get that hospital National Cancer Institute certification and that a sale would certainly jeopardize that certification.
 
2012-05-12 10:12:20 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Mentat: One of the Kansas Republicans wanted to sell off the University of Kansas Hospital because he didn't want the government involved in the hospital business.

*facepalm*


""Should we be operating that type of business," Suellentrop said. "We have a robust medical community in Wichita that works just fine privately-owned. Could that not be the same occurrence here. Does the state need to be in the hospital business."

Oh God, that's just incredibly hilarious on so many levels. I don't even have to look, this Suellentrop is a Tea Partier isn't he?
 
2012-05-12 10:13:35 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Hey...psst...Liberals. Sharia Law does not go after people with conservative values...it goes after those with Liberal values. Sharia Law does not allow things like homosexuality, free speech, free thought, rights for women, or legislation so people can vote on those things. Or allow people to vote, period


Hey...psst...idiot. The First Amendment already prevents Sharia law, or any other theocratic notions, from taking hold. All of this hand-wringing and wailing is just a huge, derpy distraction to make morons like you and the Kansas legislature feel better.

UCFRoadWarrior: Oh, and, for you Globalist NutJobs....the anti-Agenda 21 thing was a RESOLUTION, not a BILL. So you Unpunished Nazis supporters can rest a little easier, OK. Brush up on the Civics and US Govt, though


Yeah... that doesn't change the fact that it makes the legislature look like idiots for opposing basic sustainability measures because some conspiracy kooks (like you, Mr. Birther) think "UN Agenda 21" sounds scary. Oooga booga!
 
2012-05-12 10:16:21 AM  

Rambino: Mrtraveler01: gingerjet: Mrtraveler01: Besides, how many Muslims live in Kansas? 5?

And I bet they all live in Overland Park too...

/semi-serious

Knowing Iowa and Oklahoma - quite a few I would imagine. Usually people doing IT or call center jobs who basically want to be left alone.

If I was an immigrant who came to the US and had to settle in one of those two states, I'd wonder which God I pissed off to subject me to that.

Big difference between Iowa and Oklahoma... Iowa is an interesting mix of derp and open minds, while Oklahoman are just people who couldn't afford to move to Texas.


Valid point.

I apologize to Iowa. The nice parts more than make up for the derptastic parts.
 
2012-05-12 10:17:06 AM  

Serious Black: Rambino: Mentat: One of the Kansas Republicans wanted to sell off the University of Kansas Hospital because he didn't want the government involved in the hospital business.

That's actually a lot less crazy. He just proposed a study to think about it, and it isn't like there aren't private hospitals around - and not all state schools have their own hospitals either.

So not necessarily all that radical, methinks.

It's not at all radical until you consider that the state is trying to get that hospital National Cancer Institute certification and that a sale would certainly jeopardize that certification.


Well, that makes for a pretty quick study then, I guess.
 
2012-05-12 10:17:16 AM  

gingerjet: Mrtraveler01: If I was an immigrant who came to the US and had to settle in one of those two states, I'd wonder which God I pissed off to subject me to that.

Why exactly? I helped an Iowan company staff up a department - I would say at least 3/4s of the people we interviewed were Muslim (we didn't ask - this is just the case with certain class of immigrants) - most of which would of dropped everything and moved to the area within a day because its a 100 times better than staying in New Jersey or other areas of the country. Now I wouldn't personally be caught dead being in Iowa for any length of time - but for many others - its a much better (and cheaper) life.


I thought it said Kansas and not Iowa.

My bad.
 
2012-05-12 10:18:35 AM  

Serious Black: Mrtraveler01: Mentat: One of the Kansas Republicans wanted to sell off the University of Kansas Hospital because he didn't want the government involved in the hospital business.

*facepalm*

Can I move back to Missouri? Or would that be too much like dumping an abusive husband to move in with an abusive lover?


People make mistakes. And there's always room for second chances.

(We're slightly better than KS mainly because of KC and STL. Without those two, we're practically Kansas).
 
2012-05-12 10:20:56 AM  
Google made a mistake when it decided to waste all of it's new fiber optic infrastructure to modernize a backwards thinking state like Kansas.

At least they're including the Missouri side now.
 
2012-05-12 10:21:06 AM  

Mrtraveler01: (We're slightly better than KS mainly because of KC and STL. Without those two, we're practically Kansas


I lived near Versailles, MO, for a while. Definitely heavy derp-factor.

Fun place to live, so long as "intelligent conversation" isn't on your wishlist.
 
2012-05-12 10:22:37 AM  

Rambino: Mentat: One of the Kansas Republicans wanted to sell off the University of Kansas Hospital because he didn't want the government involved in the hospital business.

That's actually a lot less crazy. He just proposed a study to think about it, and it isn't like there aren't private hospitals around - and not all state schools have their own hospitals either.

So not necessarily all that radical, methinks.


KU Med is already an independent entity. I don't know if they're completely off the State teet but if they do get any money, it's insignificant and probably just stuff tied to research grants and such. They still obviously have a close relationship with the Med School still - they still share the kumc.edu email domain because all the docs want that address - but pretty much everything else is completely separate.
 
2012-05-12 10:23:32 AM  

Rambino: Mrtraveler01: (We're slightly better than KS mainly because of KC and STL. Without those two, we're practically Kansas

I lived near Versailles, MO, for a while. Definitely heavy derp-factor.

Fun place to live, so long as "intelligent conversation" isn't on your wishlist.


It gets worse the further south you go.
 
2012-05-12 10:40:55 AM  
Since they seem to be so concerned with theological law taking a foothold in the US, should they also pass laws restricting Canon Law?
 
2012-05-12 10:54:28 AM  
FTFA:

"They stone women to death in countries that have Sharia law," said state Sen. Susan Wagle, R-Wichita. "If you vote to not adopt (the bill), it's a vote against women," she said.

The needle on my StupidMeter just went to 11, bent, then broke off and fell into the bottom of the gauge.
 
2012-05-12 10:59:20 AM  
FTFA: "They stone women to death in countries that have Sharia law," said state Sen. Susan Wagle, R-Wichita. "If you vote to not adopt (the bill), it's a vote against women," she said.

So the idea is to ban stoning.

FTFB: 22:13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,
22:14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:
22:15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:
22:16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;
22:17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
22:18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him;
22:19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
22:20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
22:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
22:22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.
22:23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
22:24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
22:26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
22:27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.
22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
22:29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
(Deuteronomy 22:13-29)

Why does Senator Wagle hate the Bible?
 
2012-05-12 11:01:49 AM  

AKTurkey: Wow, I knew it was Kansas, but somehow, my brain corrected it to Arizona.


That's okay. It applies equally to both at this point. And several other states too.
 
2012-05-12 11:04:00 AM  
Which begs the question: If Dorothy was carried away to OZ today, would she still want to return to Kansas?
 
2012-05-12 11:09:05 AM  
National-level politics are depressing enough, with Congress having its share of wackos and idiots, but it's in the statehouses that you find the real nutjobs and morons. These are the people that write your laws and are known as your leaders. It is sick.
 
2012-05-12 11:14:18 AM  

Summercat: Sorta related to UN derspiracies...

Why are those types of people so paranoid about a formation of a North American Union of Canada, the US, and Mexico?

By my mind, it'd be dominated politically and economically by Americans...


It is pretty obvious . 112 million brown people and and 34 million libruls.
 
2012-05-12 11:40:55 AM  

zappaisfrank: The United States Great Plains region is home to some of the most backwards thinking individuals ever. I lived out there for a year back in the 80's in a very small town and was dumbfounded by the level of sheer unadulterated stupidity that I saw there. It was like a flatter, treeless version of "The South" without the "rebel" chip on their shoulder. The residents were basically nice people, they were just dullards who had lived in a kind of isolation for generations and hadn't advanced. The town reminded me of the one in "The Last Picture Show" only the locals had cable TV. The dust storms blew all the intelligence away years ago. The massive open expanses of nothingness have caused a sort of collective brain atrophy from lack of stimulation.

Kansas is an embarrassment to the world.


Your description is not too far off from the more formally historical explanation presented in this book:

blog.bearstrong.net

Basically, Hofstadter argues that the incredibly rapid settlement of the west in the 19th century outran all the institutions of culture and civilization. So, by the time educators, doctors and -god forbid- federal officials arrived to teach these people the virtues of literacy and hygiene, they were encountering a society which had lived in ignorance and squalor for generations and had grown to quite like it that way. Such people were predictably resistant to change of any kind, especially if it came off as foreign condescension.

So here we sit today. These settlers' descendants have learned to read, finally, but only at a third grade level. It'll probably be a few generations more before we can get them to middle-school level critical thinking.
 
2012-05-12 11:44:42 AM  

Proteios1: some judges have defended these laws


no
 
2012-05-12 11:56:21 AM  
Kansas again? Oh, FFS!

You know what really slays me here?

It's the fact that these wingnuts fight so hard against Sharia Law seemingly without understanding that a huge chunk of their agenda is basically just Christian Sharia Law.

Anti-BC and abortion legislation is Christian Sharia Law.

Anti-gay marriage legislation is Christian Sharia Law.

Anti-Muslim legislation is Christian Sharia Law.

Not only oblivious to common sense and decency but, apparently, irony as well.

Go figure.
 
2012-05-12 12:09:39 PM  
Is there some type of virus that causes mental illness that is affecting the right in mass? I can never ever remember a period in my life when a serious political party, not some fringe party, has gone so far crazy. Having a black man elected president has sent these people over the edge.
 
2012-05-12 12:20:03 PM  
This kind of Weimar legislation would suggest that mere voting will not prevent further nonsense in government. What would help, though, is sort of a mystery. history suggests that when elected governments start doing this kind of thing, well...we aren't in Kansas anymore.
 
2012-05-12 12:26:28 PM  
Hey Kansas? Put the crack pipe down. Thanks, the rest of U.S. (except maybe Arizona, Florida, Mississippi, North Carolina... but they don't count)
 
2012-05-12 12:28:01 PM  
Doc Daneeka: Let me put it this way: I can't begin to understand how they can imagine that sharia law is in any way a threat to Kansans or has any prospect of replacing US law in our courts.

they're the American Don Quixote
 
2012-05-12 12:34:07 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Hey Kansas? Put the crack pipe down. Thanks, the rest of U.S. (except maybe Arizona, Florida, Mississippi, North Carolina... but they don't count)


You forgot Texas, partner.
 
2012-05-12 12:35:54 PM  
You people are too quick to judge. Just be happy for those in the great state of Kansas who can now sleep at night knowign that they won't be stoned to death by the government.
 
2012-05-12 12:47:19 PM  

ongbok: Is there some type of virus that causes mental illness that is affecting the right in mass? I can never ever remember a period in my life when a serious political party, not some fringe party, has gone so far crazy. Having a black man elected president has sent these people over the edge.


Yes. It's called "thepresidentisnearism."
 
Displayed 50 of 142 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter






In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report