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(WSBTV)   Obscure law makes it tough for military dogs to be adopted after service, resulting in many of them being euthanized. Asinine: They are currently classified as equipment, rather than personnel   (wsbtv.com) divider line 109
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2012-05-12 05:28:57 AM  
Subby is an idiot. These are dogs, not people. Maybe I'm biased though, because I think it is absolutely asinine that a person can be charged with assaulting an officer just for fighting back against a police dog that is trying to tear their arm off. Go ahead and sic your K9 on me, I'll make sure that beast gets both their eyes popped by my thumb before we're done dancing. Dogs aren't soldiers, they aren't cops, they are nothing but a physical asset just like any other piece of equipment, they just happen to be biological equipment.
 
2012-05-12 05:29:11 AM  

profplump: omeganuepsilon: A sniffing dog is just an extension of the cops nose.

Is an IR camera just an extension of a cop's eyes? Is a laser mic just an extension of a cop's ears? What sort of shielding do I have to install before I can have a reasonable expectation of privacy?


None if you want to see while driving down the road, and there's no expectation of privacy in public anyhow.

If you're talking about your home, you'd be better off with tinfoil hats. To use things like that typically mean you're under surveillance and are monitored for a reason.

Nice try though.

freetomato: These dogs could be "damaged goods" or cause harm or blah de farkin' blah.


Now you've gone beyond the edge of reason. Straight up adoption of working dogs can be dangerous without some sort of reasonable re-training for the dog and some reasonable training for the family.

I've seen enough kids get mauled by big dogs, that are not actually trained to take down 250 lb men, to have a sensible sense of caution. I've seen enough dogs get put to sleep for being happy and jumping a bit, total mauling by accident.

Sure, the dogs deserve a chance, and some do get that chance, but not at the cost of human safety. Seriously, you sound like the kind of person that would let the silverback hold your baby because, awwww, that's sooooo cute.

/obviously, out of proportion a little, but the principle is there
 
2012-05-12 05:35:56 AM  

lisarenee3505: Subby is an idiot. These are dogs, not people. Maybe I'm biased though, because I think it is absolutely asinine that a person can be charged with assaulting an officer just for fighting back against a police dog that is trying to tear their arm off. Go ahead and sic your K9 on me, I'll make sure that beast gets both their eyes popped by my thumb before we're done dancing. Dogs aren't soldiers, they aren't cops, they are nothing but a physical asset just like any other piece of equipment, they just happen to be biological equipment.


Oh my, it's the internet tough girl. If you'd listen to the cops in the first place they wouldn't sick the dog on you, and you wouldn't have the need to employ your 'leet dog fighting skills, killer.

Soldiers and cops are assets as well, and it's not legal to attack them, that scenerio has it's own specific charge above assault and battery, ergo it stands to reason there is a similar mechanism in place to protect all other assets in the same manner. I described the military version, so what if the civilian version has a different name for it?
 
2012-05-12 07:04:50 AM  

NewportBarGuy: cman: If they are classified as equipment, do what soldiers do best: steal from the Army

It's called "relocating". Get it right.

Couldn't the Army Chief of Staff just draft a letter reclassifying them to make it easier to adopt at end of service? Seems like it would take something very small to correct this.


No, it's either "acquiring through non-standard means" or "field-expedient requistion." But as for the change for this being small, nothing in the Army is small and simple.
 
2012-05-12 07:15:21 AM  

I'm an Egyptian!: But as for the change for this being small, nothing in the Army is small and simple.


Holds true for all branches...but many civilians will never believe you.
 
2012-05-12 07:27:42 AM  

buckler: Harv72b: /Classifying military dogs as "personnel" creates too many potential moral ambiguities, not to mention moving them to an entirely different budget category.

Not to threadjack, but that's one thing I always found weird about police dogs...they can perform a search just by being in the area, something forbidden to humans, yet if a suspect lashes out at a police dog, they are charged with "battery on a police officer". I'll be convinced the day a police dog testifies as to its case experience in court.


That classification of the crime bothers me.

A dog is not a "police officer." If you shoot one, you aren't a "cop killer." You vandalized police equipment. Plenty of Americans can't quite bring themselves to believe all the h. sapiens in their country are people and they're already extending the courtesy to some canis lupus. It's offensive and ridiculous.
 
2012-05-12 08:05:14 AM  
I've had the fortune of having 2 former city of little rock police dogs (GSD). One was washed out of training midway through for puking while riding in the car. The other one was a serial chewer and got washed out for chewing the ac unit up in his handlers back yard, twice. Once you establish who is dominant, then your behavior issues are over. the first dog died at 14 years old, the current dog is 3, and is bogarting the couch.
 
2012-05-12 08:17:28 AM  
Since corporations are now "people" surely a service veteran canine could get some respect.
 
2012-05-12 08:30:41 AM  

NewportBarGuy: cman: If they are classified as equipment, do what soldiers do best: steal from the Army

It's called "relocating". Get it right.

Couldn't the Army Chief of Staff just draft a letter reclassifying them to make it easier to adopt at end of service? Seems like it would take something very small to correct this.


We called it "Government property serving the same function in a different location."
And we got those items during "Midnight acquisitions"

A guy I know once suddenly had a Humvee engine. Still in a shipping crate.
"Were'd you get that?"
'Fell off a cargo plane'
"Seems so"
 
2012-05-12 08:32:14 AM  
I'll just leave this here.
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2012-05-12 08:35:46 AM  
I can solve this problem right now.

Assign the dogs to Fark duty.
Since nothing is obscure on Fark, the law no longer applies.
Hand out doggies.
Profit.

/By profit I mean from lawsuits from all the bite victims...
 
2012-05-12 08:58:38 AM  

Jim_Callahan:
//Dogs are not people. If you actually think them equivalent you are literally a psychopath.


yes, it makes much more sense to value no living thing except as a possession, like a psychopath does. I'm sure glad you have your values straight.
 
2012-05-12 09:03:04 AM  
If you read the article, it mentions that the cost to send these dogs home and provide necessary vet care can reach thousands of dollars. And it implies, maybe erroneously, that if the dogs were considered personnel this cost would be paid by the government for each and every dog. I'm fine with people adopting pets, but not at taxpayer expense.
 
2012-05-12 09:03:58 AM  

buckler: Enigmamf: "The consequences of those mistakes are profound. As my colleague Jacob Sullum has explained, the U.S. Supreme Court says a dog sniff is not invasive enough to qualify as a "search" under the Fourth Amendment, so police do not need a warrant or probable cause to have a dog smell your luggage or your car. At the same time, however, the courts treat an alert by a drug-sniffing dog as probable cause for an actual, no-question-about-it search, the kind that involves going through your pockets, opening your luggage, looking in your trunk, and perusing your personal belongings. The problem is that a dog barking or sitting may be responding not to a smell but to his handler's hunch about a suspect's guilt. The reason we have a Fourth Amendment is precisely to prevent searches based on hunches."

From "The Mind of a Police Dog"

Which illustrates my earlier point.


Most agencies, if they actually care about complying with 4th amendment and real results (example: IRS, who wants dogs specifically for bomb and chemical agent detection) have blind tests that must be performed weekly by the dog and handler. The dog and handler don't preemptively know which items out of the fifty they're sniffing have the scent. And if the dog fails the test twice in a row (with mandatory waiting period between tests) it must be removed from active duty.

But for things like drug sniffing on cars... Because the dogs passive alert, and there isn't really any independent monitoring to ensure the dog is actually alerting, the handler can make the dog appear to be alerting on an object when it actually isn't, if the handler wants to get "probable cause". It's the biggest load of crap and everyone in the industry knows cops do it all the time.
 
2012-05-12 09:14:18 AM  
csb:

Friends of my folks had gotten a shephard that couldn't pass the K9 test because it was too friendly, though he did do well with the contriband part. It'd rather play then do anything else. Well, one day their daughters boyfriend went over to visit. The dog walked over, sniffed his pocket and sat down. They just looked at him and held out their hands for the pot in his pocket.

/csb
 
2012-05-12 09:27:09 AM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: cman: If they are classified as equipment, do what soldiers do best: steal from the Army


As a guy with a gas mask and a couple of other things I walked away with gratis... I'll do my best to fix this. Oh yeah, I also lobby Congress on this shiat.

brerrabbit: More along the lines that the government does not want people finding out that the dogs are mainly assbiters when they decide to maim a little kid for being a bit too brown.

Oh, now it's America's fault that dogs are naturally racist? fark off, dude. My shephard mix taught me all I need to know about black deliverymen.



Seriously, what is it with dogs and racism? My Doberman-Rottweiler mix Brody completely loses his shiat at the first sign of a black person in the vicinity. He was never trained to do that, it just seems to come naturally. I say to him, "But Brody, you're black." I don't think he believes me.
 
2012-05-12 09:36:23 AM  

omeganuepsilon: Now you've gone beyond the edge of reason. Straight up adoption of working dogs can be dangerous without some sort of reasonable re-training for the dog and some reasonable training for the family


I was up late, on meds, and certainly not articulating clearly. I stand by my assertion that the handlers/partners of these dogs, or suitable owners, should be allowed to adopt them before they are euthanized, if they are not suitable for civilian owners. Again, my neighbor has a retired police dog who is quite socialized and happy. I'm glad to see she was not treated like excess equipment.
 
2012-05-12 09:50:46 AM  
That's the militardy. You can get an Article 108 for getting a sunburn.
 
2012-05-12 09:51:23 AM  

gaslight: Sadly, it's the same with police dogs. They don't want anyone reverse engineering how the pooches were trained. However, the animals can be given to people who are positively vetted, so if you know an ex-serviceman, give them a nudge and ask them about the adopt a bomb/contraband doggie options available through their veteran's association.


I'll have to explore this when I'm in a position to get a doggie, though my security clearance is probably WAY out of date. I assume those things expire.

buckler: Hell, personnel are pretty much classed as equipment.


Reminds me of the joke about why it's against regulation for soldiers to get sunburns: destruction of government property.
 
2012-05-12 09:56:33 AM  

vudukungfu: That's the militardy. You can get an Article 108 for getting a sunburn.


Does the military issue sunscreen?
 
2012-05-12 10:06:00 AM  

Nogale: Does the military issue sunscreen?


They didn't when I was in.

They would write you up just to fark with you.
 
2012-05-12 10:14:19 AM  
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.
 
2012-05-12 10:51:10 AM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: Sounds likea case for the Starfleet Judge Advocate General:

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Swift and fair? Geez, your asking for a lot.
 
2012-05-12 11:40:54 AM  

MagSeven: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: cman: If they are classified as equipment, do what soldiers do best: steal from the Army


As a guy with a gas mask and a couple of other things I walked away with gratis... I'll do my best to fix this. Oh yeah, I also lobby Congress on this shiat.

brerrabbit: More along the lines that the government does not want people finding out that the dogs are mainly assbiters when they decide to maim a little kid for being a bit too brown.

Oh, now it's America's fault that dogs are naturally racist? fark off, dude. My shephard mix taught me all I need to know about black deliverymen.

Heh. It's funny. My neighbor is a retired officer and he had a former police shepherd. For some reason the dog really liked me. The neighbor then said "I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but you're the first black guy he met that he never barks at." I said "Thanks, I guess?"


Dogs are pretty good judges of character. He knows you are a good human.
 
2012-05-12 11:55:44 AM  
Classifying them as personnel in an attempt to make separation from service easier would likely have the result of further dichotomization of treatment of police dogs and those of non-police. Barring that approach I'd like to see these pups have a nice, long, retirement.
 
2012-05-12 11:56:46 AM  

omeganuepsilon: lisarenee3505: Subby is an idiot. These are dogs, not people. Maybe I'm biased though, because I think it is absolutely asinine that a person can be charged with assaulting an officer just for fighting back against a police dog that is trying to tear their arm off. Go ahead and sic your K9 on me, I'll make sure that beast gets both their eyes popped by my thumb before we're done dancing. Dogs aren't soldiers, they aren't cops, they are nothing but a physical asset just like any other piece of equipment, they just happen to be biological equipment.

Oh my, it's the internet tough girl. If you'd listen to the cops in the first place they wouldn't sick the dog on you, and you wouldn't have the need to employ your 'leet dog fighting skills, killer.

Soldiers and cops are assets as well, and it's not legal to attack them, that scenerio has it's own specific charge above assault and battery, ergo it stands to reason there is a similar mechanism in place to protect all other assets in the same manner. I described the military version, so what if the civilian version has a different name for it?


I think you meant "elite"?
 
2012-05-12 11:57:09 AM  

Daedalus27: Jim_Callahan: Um... they _are_ equipment and not personnel. Albeit it would seem to make more sense to retire them by giving them out as pets, but the classification itself is correct.

//Dogs are not people. If you actually think them equivalent you are literally a psychopath.

Honestly, I value some dogs more than some individuals.

...

It's not a value judgement. Dogs do not enlist, they do not have a "rank", etc. -- they simply do not have the same characteristics (or "classification") as a soldier.
 
2012-05-12 12:10:52 PM  

SpinStopper: Allamagoosa.

Bonus points if you get the reference without clicking or looking it up. Clue: Peaslake ;)


Extra bonus points for finding the story itself?
 
2012-05-12 12:17:32 PM  

lisarenee3505: Subby is an idiot. These are dogs, not people. Maybe I'm biased though, because I think it is absolutely asinine that a person can be charged with assaulting an officer just for fighting back against a police dog that is trying to tear their arm off. Go ahead and sic your K9 on me, I'll make sure that beast gets both their eyes popped by my thumb before we're done dancing. Dogs aren't soldiers, they aren't cops, they are nothing but a physical asset just like any other piece of equipment, they just happen to be biological equipment.


weknowmemes.com

/subby
 
2012-05-12 12:44:07 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Enigmamf: omeganuepsilon: Enigmamf: doglover: Dogs have a superior sense of smell. But if a HUMAN officer should pull alongside Andy Capp on his way home and smell the gin fumes pouring in through the window of his cruiser, he can take appropriate action.

Dogs may or may not have a superior sense of smell, but they've been shown to have a false-positive rate of over 50%.

http://reason.com/archives/2011/02/21/the-mind-of-a-police-dog

False positive rate is irrelevant. How often do they miss the stash of coke? That's the important part.

Um, it is completely relevant - when you're talking about setting off a chain of legal morass for the wrongfully accused on the basis of a "testimony" that is in fact no more accurate than a coin toss.

Search =/= accusation. You sound like you've been sniffed, and even though your weed is gone now, you still got "harassed" while being searched. IE Fark Cop Hater Brigade

Worse(legally at any rate) that happens is your car gets towed to the shop(or a mechanic comes to the site), and an apology is issued when nothing is found.

Not all that much different than them searching your car without the dog, an inconvenience but no grand miscarriage of justice.

Get off your cross, summers coming and we'd like to cut it up for bonfire fodder.


So what you're saying is that police are the enemy of anyone who values privacy and the 4th amendment? That seems like a view with obvious unfavorable implications.
 
2012-05-12 12:44:15 PM  
A number of WW2 dogs were returned to their owners with no ill effects, so I don't see the problem as long as the new owner signs a release..
 
2012-05-12 01:04:49 PM  
And in the eyes of the law, dogs are deemed to be property.

What else is new?

And don't slam me. The last three dogs I have had were pound dogs. FIxed, shot up with drugs, and needing a home. I paid their price, and bought them home.

But in law, they are still just property.
 
2012-05-12 01:06:12 PM  

profplump: omeganuepsilon: A sniffing dog is just an extension of the cops nose.

Is an IR camera just an extension of a cop's eyes? Is a laser mic just an extension of a cop's ears? What sort of shielding do I have to install before I can have a reasonable expectation of privacy?


Was gonna say this, but use xray as the example.

So, serious question, how and where is the line drawn?
 
2012-05-12 01:06:38 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: I'll just leave this here.
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Leave it anywhere you want.... do you think the dogs care?
 
2012-05-12 01:34:47 PM  

dopeydwarf: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: cman: If they are classified as equipment, do what soldiers do best: steal from the Army


As a guy with a gas mask and a couple of other things I walked away with gratis... I'll do my best to fix this. Oh yeah, I also lobby Congress on this shiat.

brerrabbit: More along the lines that the government does not want people finding out that the dogs are mainly assbiters when they decide to maim a little kid for being a bit too brown.

Oh, now it's America's fault that dogs are naturally racist? fark off, dude. My shephard mix taught me all I need to know about black deliverymen.


Seriously, what is it with dogs and racism? My Doberman-Rottweiler mix Brody completely loses his shiat at the first sign of a black person in the vicinity. He was never trained to do that, it just seems to come naturally. I say to him, "But Brody, you're black." I don't think he believes me.


probably a couple of factors. you are your dog's pack, that guy looks different than you. or, he is probably picking up on something small you do. dogs are very, very good at reading human faces.
 
2012-05-12 02:15:51 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: I'll just leave this here.
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thanks, i didn't know they named military dogs "Nig"
 
2012-05-12 02:19:27 PM  

freetomato: omeganuepsilon: Now you've gone beyond the edge of reason. Straight up adoption of working dogs can be dangerous without some sort of reasonable re-training for the dog and some reasonable training for the family

I was up late, on meds, and certainly not articulating clearly. I stand by my assertion that the handlers/partners of these dogs, or suitable owners, should be allowed to adopt them before they are euthanized, if they are not suitable for civilian owners. Again, my neighbor has a retired police dog who is quite socialized and happy. I'm glad to see she was not treated like excess equipment.


That's fine, I've done the same. Thanks for clarifying. : )

chookbillion: I think you meant "elite"?


No, I didn't.
thatsthejoke.jpg

Resident Muslim: So, serious question, how and where is the line drawn?


That's the question, isn't it?
A bit of inconvenience is the price we pay to have law enforcement police everyone. If they never look, they'll never find, and society is worse off, and tax dollars are wasted.

The only actual line, is when the opinion of the majority of the people becomes a problem for the government, as a result of the government being too invasive. A balancing act doesn't really have a "line".

There is no "perfect" for individuals, you'll always get biatchers and complainers about supposedly "invasive" things and feeling persecuted. If individuals had their irrational way, police would be able to read minds and know who was guilty without even looking, and they'd still biatch because that's "invasive".

Society makes that line, and society is fickle. Certain people who cry are ignored, people who want every individual searched are ignored, and then a rough average is attempted, and then lowered just to stop some incessant whining.
 
2012-05-12 02:22:29 PM  

SuperT: dopeydwarf: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: cman: If they are classified as equipment, do what soldiers do best: steal from the Army


As a guy with a gas mask and a couple of other things I walked away with gratis... I'll do my best to fix this. Oh yeah, I also lobby Congress on this shiat.

brerrabbit: More along the lines that the government does not want people finding out that the dogs are mainly assbiters when they decide to maim a little kid for being a bit too brown.

Oh, now it's America's fault that dogs are naturally racist? fark off, dude. My shephard mix taught me all I need to know about black deliverymen.


Seriously, what is it with dogs and racism? My Doberman-Rottweiler mix Brody completely loses his shiat at the first sign of a black person in the vicinity. He was never trained to do that, it just seems to come naturally. I say to him, "But Brody, you're black." I don't think he believes me.

probably a couple of factors. you are your dog's pack, that guy looks different than you. or, he is probably picking up on something small you do. dogs are very, very good at reading human faces.


He does it without any cue from me, without me realizing anyone is around and without me near him so I would discount the latter. I would agree with the former if he acted the same way with all strangers, but he doesn't so I don't think that's quite right either. I got him when he was roughly 8 weeks old so I don't know if the previous owners (who looked like they were Filipino) have anything to do with it. I suppose it will remain a mystery.
 
2012-05-12 02:45:54 PM  
Pack mentality, is a derivative work of a tendency of any given mammal to dislike or shun that which is inherently different.

Human babies do it, as do adults(despite the demand for political correctness, we cannot outright control our subconcsious, only refrain from action and hope to acclimate the subconscious to the surroundings). Not just with race, but things like retardation or crippled people, and even the wounded and sickly. It's a subconscious reaction, very similar to the "ick" factor. It's a defense mechanism.

Unfamiliar sights, sounds, smells, set many creatures on edge. It's no great mystery.
 
2012-05-12 03:25:15 PM  
"'I haven't learnt anything in the past 15 years that hasn't just depressed me more."
-Doug Stanhope
 
2012-05-12 04:52:37 PM  

dopeydwarf: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: cman: If they are classified as equipment, do what soldiers do best: steal from the Army


As a guy with a gas mask and a couple of other things I walked away with gratis... I'll do my best to fix this. Oh yeah, I also lobby Congress on this shiat.

brerrabbit: More along the lines that the government does not want people finding out that the dogs are mainly assbiters when they decide to maim a little kid for being a bit too brown.

Oh, now it's America's fault that dogs are naturally racist? fark off, dude. My shephard mix taught me all I need to know about black deliverymen.


Seriously, what is it with dogs and racism? My Doberman-Rottweiler mix Brody completely loses his shiat at the first sign of a black person in the vicinity. He was never trained to do that, it just seems to come naturally. I say to him, "But Brody, you're black." I don't think he believes me.


They sense the extra aggression, that's all there is to it. Not pointing a finger at the reasons for the aggression, but dogs pick up on it and act accordingly.
 
2012-05-12 05:52:54 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: But as for the change for this being small, nothing in the Army is small and simple.


Yeah, that was always the thing that frustrated me. I can't even begin to remember how many times I was at S-1 because they screwed something up. It was always a nightmare to get even the simplest thing fixed.

Meh... Was just hopeful that since it seems quite a few ex-service personnel want one of these dogs, they could just fast-track it for those they deem qualified. Whatever the hell that would mean. Probably 2 people would qualify.
 
2012-05-12 07:43:00 PM  

adammpower: Day_Old_Dutchie: I'll just leave this here.
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thanks, i didn't know they named military dogs "Nig"


I guess you didn't bother to read the date on the plaque, but good on you for being so mindlessly hyper-vigilant.
 
2012-05-12 08:37:52 PM  
Dogs should get military pensions.
 
2012-05-12 08:47:26 PM  

Enigmamf: Actually what's interesting to me about dog's huge false positive rate (and the fact that they largely are reacting to cues in their owners) is that it probably means the police officers suspicions were true about 44% of the time. Which, given the cap on their IQs, is pretty stunning.


I have no problem assuming that cops instincts are right 95% of the time. They deal with people, they can read people, they have a history of how someone acted when they talked to them followed up by the rest of the investigation to confirm or deny their earlier guess.

But we have rights so it doesn't matter how dead on accurate the cop is. He needs to have specific probably cause to search or arrest you, and it takes evidence, not hunches, to convict.

Drug sniffing dogs are an insult to the 4th amendment.
 
2012-05-12 09:08:33 PM  

NukeEuropeNow: Drug sniffing dogs are an insult to the 4th amendment.


Comment like that, you're an insult to humanity.
 
2012-05-12 10:09:14 PM  

omeganuepsilon: freetomato: omeganuepsilon: Now you've gone beyond the edge of reason. Straight up adoption of working dogs can be dangerous without some sort of reasonable re-training for the dog and some reasonable training for the family

I was up late, on meds, and certainly not articulating clearly. I stand by my assertion that the handlers/partners of these dogs, or suitable owners, should be allowed to adopt them before they are euthanized, if they are not suitable for civilian owners. Again, my neighbor has a retired police dog who is quite socialized and happy. I'm glad to see she was not treated like excess equipment.

That's fine, I've done the same. Thanks for clarifying. : )

chookbillion: I think you meant "elite"?

No, I didn't.
thatsthejoke.jpg


Hah, I got you!
Pretty easy after reading your profile. I'm just bummed I was busy all day and couldn't check back until now.

 
2012-05-12 10:23:14 PM  

chookbillion: Hah, I got you!
Pretty easy after reading your profile. I'm just bummed I was busy all day and couldn't check back until now.


Wow, you're amazingly clever. I certainly over-reacted and such, you got me to go on and on and on.....*yawn*. You win the JFP award. Keep up this type of performance and you might have a shot at employee of the month at your local burger joint within the next decade or so. Remember, Aim high!

Award to chookbillion
for
Absolute Domination in Practical Lameness
and
Effective use of False Superiority

cache.gawker.com


Now, don't you have somewhere to be in 26 minutes?
 
2012-05-12 10:27:00 PM  

omeganuepsilon: chookbillion: Hah, I got you!
Pretty easy after reading your profile. I'm just bummed I was busy all day and couldn't check back until now.

Wow, you're amazingly clever. I certainly over-reacted and such, you got me to go on and on and on.....*yawn*. You win the JFP award. Keep up this type of performance and you might have a shot at employee of the month at your local burger joint within the next decade or so. Remember, Aim high!

Award to chookbillion
for
Absolute Domination in Practical Lameness
and
Effective use of False Superiority

[cache.gawker.com image 408x599]

Now, don't you have somewhere to be in 26 minutes?


Thanks, that's neat!
 
2012-05-13 02:33:46 AM  

buckler: Harv72b: /if a suspect lashes out at a police dog, they are charged with "battery on a police officer."


i don't think the dog is the police officer in this case, it's the actual human police officer (i.e, the dog's handler). in some jurisdictions, battery is defined as attacking a person or some thing within their immediate control. it could be a dog, an umbrella, a backpack, etc.
 
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