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2012-05-11 04:28:37 PM
In my professional opinion as an Internet Scientist, I have two completely unsubstantiated wild-ass guesses as to why Japan's youth are losing their sex drive:

1.) An evolutionary response to over-crowding. Mother Nature has all kinds of built-in population controls. Maybe Japan's population density is triggering some sort of natural response.

2.) Artificial hormones in the drinking water. Studies have shown how all the lady pee contaminated with hormones from the pill is changing hormone levels and sexual traits in fish populations, maybe it could be affecting humans.

I base these theories entirely on my lack of understanding and training in the fields of life science and human biology, in conjunction with a sum total of 0 hours of intensive research. Can I be on TV now?
 
2012-05-11 04:29:28 PM

XMark: There's a very large number of North American guys who would gladly help with this problem.


Mexico counts as part of North America.

Just sayin'.

/Wouldn't mind to go to Japan
//However, my Japanese is non-existant
 
2012-05-11 04:30:23 PM

kvinesknows: all japanese women are horid looking so its no wonder

[cdn.gunaxin.com image 560x317]


If you don't want to help then I'll gladly fix this entire problem by myself.

/Altho, technically, they wouldn't be Japanese if I did.
/Meh, close enough for government work.
 
2012-05-11 04:31:13 PM
If I'm not mistaken, and I am most certainly too lazy to look it up, Japan is the most densely populated country in the world, and on top of that everyone lives on the coast. I wonder if humans have a natural instinct to reproduce less if there are too many people around. Not a huge thing or else we would have noticed it by now, but enough that it has a real effect.
 
2012-05-11 04:31:54 PM
If they need help, I am available for breeding purposes.
 
2012-05-11 04:32:01 PM

kvinesknows: all japanese women are horid looking so its no wonder

[cdn.gunaxin.com image 560x317]


Have the one 4th from the left sent to my quarters.
 
2012-05-11 04:34:30 PM

picturescrazy: If I'm not mistaken, and I am most certainly too lazy to look it up, Japan is the most densely populated country in the world, and on top of that everyone lives on the coast. I wonder if humans have a natural instinct to reproduce less if there are too many people around. Not a huge thing or else we would have noticed it by now, but enough that it has a real effect.


Considering it is a global trend, it probably has nothing to do with it. Remember, 100 years ago child mortality rates meant having 5 or 6 kids just so a couple could survive to become adults themselves.
 
2012-05-11 04:34:47 PM

Current Resident: kvinesknows: all japanese women are horid looking so its no wonder

[cdn.gunaxin.com image 560x317]

Have the one 4th from the left sent to my quarters.


The 5th one for me. Still thinking it's some sort of trap, though.
 
2012-05-11 04:34:50 PM
What do you expect from a society made up entirely of uninspired, sexless, culturally-bound automatons?
 
2012-05-11 04:35:16 PM
With porn that good, why have sex?
 
2012-05-11 04:35:57 PM

mod3072: In my professional opinion as an Internet Scientist, I have two completely unsubstantiated wild-ass guesses as to why Japan's youth are losing their sex drive:

1.) An evolutionary response to over-crowding. Mother Nature has all kinds of built-in population controls. Maybe Japan's population density is triggering some sort of natural response.

2.) Artificial hormones in the drinking water. Studies have shown how all the lady pee contaminated with hormones from the pill is changing hormone levels and sexual traits in fish populations, maybe it could be affecting humans.

I base these theories entirely on my lack of understanding and training in the fields of life science and human biology, in conjunction with a sum total of 0 hours of intensive research. Can I be on TV now?


I see we work in a similar fashion and have thought of the same idea. Therefore I must assume that we are correct.
 
2012-05-11 04:36:31 PM

CygnusDarius: kvinesknows: all japanese women are horid looking so its no wonder

[cdn.gunaxin.com image 560x317]

I suspect it's a trap.

/Ever since Mana
//I am wary


It may be a trap.

Only one thing to do, empty the room. I'm a professional. Shut these doors and don't open them no matter what you hear.

I'll examine them and afterwards write you a report on each one (ok if I hand it in in the morning?)
 
2012-05-11 04:37:12 PM
Ridiculous extrapolations like this are why stupid people hate science.
 
2012-05-11 04:39:48 PM

mod3072: In my professional opinion as an Internet Scientist, I have two completely unsubstantiated wild-ass guesses as to why Japan's youth are losing their sex drive:

1.) An evolutionary response to over-crowding. Mother Nature has all kinds of built-in population controls. Maybe Japan's population density is triggering some sort of natural response.

2.) Artificial hormones in the drinking water. Studies have shown how all the lady pee contaminated with hormones from the pill is changing hormone levels and sexual traits in fish populations, maybe it could be affecting humans.

I base these theories entirely on my lack of understanding and training in the fields of life science and human biology, in conjunction with a sum total of 0 hours of intensive research. Can I be on TV now?


FTA "A survey by the Japan Family Planning Association found that 36 percent of males between 16 and 19 had "no interest" in sex."

16 and not interested in sex? No way is that 'normal'. I was thinking some Government is slipping them the mickey.
 
2012-05-11 04:39:52 PM

picturescrazy: mod3072: In my professional opinion as an Internet Scientist, I have two completely unsubstantiated wild-ass guesses as to why Japan's youth are losing their sex drive:

1.) An evolutionary response to over-crowding. Mother Nature has all kinds of built-in population controls. Maybe Japan's population density is triggering some sort of natural response.

2.) Artificial hormones in the drinking water. Studies have shown how all the lady pee contaminated with hormones from the pill is changing hormone levels and sexual traits in fish populations, maybe it could be affecting humans.

I base these theories entirely on my lack of understanding and training in the fields of life science and human biology, in conjunction with a sum total of 0 hours of intensive research. Can I be on TV now?

I see we work in a similar fashion and have thought of the same idea. Therefore I must assume that we are correct.


I'm peer reviewed!! Now my work will really be taken seriously! Does anyone have the number for the Discovery Channel?
 
2012-05-11 04:40:12 PM
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-05-11 04:41:45 PM

picturescrazy: If I'm not mistaken, and I am most certainly too lazy to look it up, Japan is the most densely populated country in the world



Isreal, Netherlands, SK and a few more countres are more densely populated in absolute terms, but as you indicated in your next sentence, Japan's population is mostly coastal, exacerbating their problem.
 
2012-05-11 04:42:10 PM
These scientists just want to call attention and that's why they are extrapolating. No need to jump on their throats.

The truth is that the births rate is abysmally low and the country is in the path of facing pretty terrible problems, what are they going to do when the retired population outnumbers the working population? who's going to, you know, actually do the work? not to mention all the social problems of a country with people not interested in sex or relationships, will stuff like crime and suicides rise? marriage and family (believe it or not) are proven to low the probability of depression or violent behavior. They really need to take actions, and they need to start now.
 
2012-05-11 04:42:15 PM

DavidVincent: With porn that good, why have sex?


Have I been watching the same stuff as you? I wouldn't exactly say Japanese porn is amongst the best in the world. Once you've finally filtered out all the weird and bizarre niche stuff there isn't much left.
 
2012-05-11 04:42:28 PM
FTA: The National Institute of Population and Social Security Research study also showed one in four unmarried men and women in their 30s had never had sex, and most young women preferred being single.

OK, the good folks at NIPSS Research are on this. It's legit.
 
2012-05-11 04:42:31 PM
All I see is a population decline in a country that is among the most crowded on earth. The rest is just statistical projection (aka mumbo-jumbo).

/that is all
 
2012-05-11 04:43:06 PM
I don't care what the women look like. Sometimes, ya gotta take one for the team. Next stop, Japan. Goal, population boom! One man, one wanker, two giblets. Let's see what he can get done.
 
2012-05-11 04:43:39 PM

Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: downstairs: Because 50-ish years of data can project something that's going to happen in friggin' 3011?

That was pretty close to my first train of thought. Mine went more like "So...in a thousand years, there will be no Japanese people...and they're expecting people now to care about this?"


Exactly. I'm pretty sure quite a few cultures from 1012 are no longer around. Its a thousand freaking years.
 
2012-05-11 04:43:59 PM
It announced last week for the first time ever sales of its adult diapers were larger than those for babies.

I think that is more about infancy fetishists in japan more than anything.
 
2012-05-11 04:44:02 PM
Most developed nations see reduced fertility. This is nothing new, and is very easy to find evidence for.

Even in the US, most of the population growth (until very recently) was from in-migration, not from citizens.

/I bet Japan isn't that big on immigration, though.
 
2012-05-11 04:44:27 PM

CygnusDarius: Well, we already have seen one model.

www.pollpub.com

/lousy programming, though


All people really care about is the interface.
 
2012-05-11 04:44:42 PM

The sound of one hand clapping: DavidVincent: With porn that good, why have sex?

Have I been watching the same stuff as you? I wouldn't exactly say Japanese porn is amongst the best in the world. Once you've finally filtered out all the weird and bizarre niche stuff there isn't much left.


And of that a good portion has all the fun bits blurred out.
 
2012-05-11 04:44:44 PM

mynamebackwards: They should try jizzing IN their women

/reproduction, how does it work?


lol'd so hard I drooled on my desk.
 
2012-05-11 04:45:15 PM

you have pee hands: CygnusDarius: Well, we already have seen one model.

www.pollpub.com

/lousy programming, though

All people really care about is the interface.


So it's like the Wii: Fun to play with, shiatty OS.
 
2012-05-11 04:46:51 PM

DavidVincent: With porn that good, why have sex?


Scott Adams (Dilbert creator) basically mentions this in one of his essays. Paraphrasing: whenever simulated sex gets almost as good as the real thing it will be the end of the human race.

The key thing is that it only has to be almost as good, because it doesn't come along with any of the negatives of real sex (chance of rejection, the effort expended to date/court, risk of disease, risk of predators, etc.)

I actually think he is probably right. And it will affect the technologically advanced, wealthier populations first.
 
2012-05-11 04:46:56 PM

lockers: CygnusDarius: lockers: First step is to ban pillow girlfriends. Before then your simply doomed.

And ban sex robots.

The generation that sees sex bots will be the last. but it will be one hell of a way to go.


The holodeck will be mankind's last invention.
-Scott Adams
 
2012-05-11 04:47:26 PM
FTA: So if you do the mathematics, as they did, then the country will have no children within a millennium.

Do you think people at fox know what a "millennium" is?

Can you think of any trend that has last an entire millennium? I mean yeah they have issues about it but "OMG WE WILL HAVE NO PEOPLE IN 1000 YEARS" sure the hell isn't one of them.
 
2012-05-11 04:49:52 PM
In all seriousness, I think that there's just so much within Japanese society that could be causing this problem that it's impossible to blame it on one thing.

Overcrowding, leading to a lack of personal space for potential couples. A society that worships youth and cuteness, which has the potential to make any women past their mid twenties seem undesirable. Overworking of many employees, especially the men, leading to people too tired to be interested in sex. A rigid society that causes young adults to rebel and act out instead of spending their time finding a partner.

Not to mention all the strange trends that occur in the big cities like the guys who spend so much time working on their appearance that they neither have time for dating nor actually appeal to many of the women due to then seeming too feminine.

None of these issues are the ultimate reason I'm sure but I'd bet they damn well don't help matters. Not sure how they could solve the problem though.
 
2012-05-11 04:51:11 PM

kvinesknows: all japanese women are horid looking so its no wonder

[cdn.gunaxin.com image 560x317]


I would probably let 4 of those women crap on me, if they asked nicely and I was kinda drunk.

/who am I kidding?
//I wouldn't need to be drunk
 
2012-05-11 04:52:11 PM
Idiocracy is a work of fiction.

If you don't believe me, do this. Think about yourself. Now think about your parents. Now, do you really think your parents are as smart as you are? Of course not. Somehow, despite intelligence being partially genetic, stupid people can mate and produce intelligent offspring. You are living proof.

/and if your parents were smarter than you, they would be on the ones on Fark, not you
 
2012-05-11 04:52:55 PM

ArcadianRefugee: The sound of one hand clapping: DavidVincent: With porn that good, why have sex?

Have I been watching the same stuff as you? I wouldn't exactly say Japanese porn is amongst the best in the world. Once you've finally filtered out all the weird and bizarre niche stuff there isn't much left.

And of that a good portion has all the fun bits blurred out.


Exactly! Softcore is really the only stuff I'll even bother with when it comes to Japanese porn. Hardcore is either to fetishized for my liking or just censored. At least with the softcore there's no stupid pixellation distracting me and there a lot less random bizarre crap.
 
2012-05-11 04:54:18 PM

The sound of one hand clapping: In all seriousness, I think that there's just so much within Japanese society that could be causing this problem that it's impossible to blame it on one thing.


THIS. Really there are like 5 factors for this, that is why it is so bad there. Other countries are experiencing smaller declines but not like Japan.

The easy thing for them to do is allow for more immigration but I think Japan probably doesn't want that. Other then that they need to start promoting more the concept of family living and make it easier for parents.
 
2012-05-11 04:55:35 PM

aerojockey: Idiocracy is a work of fiction.

If you don't believe me, do this. Think about yourself. Now think about your parents. Now, do you really think your parents are as smart as you are? Of course not. Somehow, despite intelligence being partially genetic, stupid people can mate and produce intelligent offspring. You are living proof.

/and if your parents were smarter than you, they would be on the ones on Fark, not you


Yeah but I am not having kids. And there are a lot more people having babies not on Fark.
 
2012-05-11 04:55:54 PM

Corvus: FTA: So if you do the mathematics, as they did, then the country will have no children within a millennium.

Do you think people at fox know what a "millennium" is?

Can you think of any trend that has last an entire millennium? I mean yeah they have issues about it but "OMG WE WILL HAVE NO PEOPLE IN 1000 YEARS" sure the hell isn't one of them.


Thinking about this rationally....I don't really care if Japan's population is non-existent in 1000 years. Because I will be dead.
 
2012-05-11 04:59:41 PM

downstairs: Because 50-ish years of data can project something that's going to happen in friggin' 3011?


It's like the old joke, a guy watching a science show hears how the Sun is going to go nova in a 5 thousand years and panics. Someone points out that the show said million, not thousand, and he's suddenly relieved.

/I think Fox News is the idiocracy.
 
2012-05-11 05:00:15 PM
hyperbole much?
 
2012-05-11 05:01:16 PM
Let's use that logic to see what else will happen?

The Earth has warmed about a degree over the last decade so in a thousand years it will be a charred cinder unable to support life!

I lost 3lbs last month so in 60 years my body will disappear!

Not to worry, on my way home I will step on my car's accelerator which will cause me surpass the speed of light in a few years!
 
2012-05-11 05:01:30 PM

jabelar: DavidVincent: With porn that good, why have sex?

Scott Adams (Dilbert creator) basically mentions this in one of his essays. Paraphrasing: whenever simulated sex gets almost as good as the real thing it will be the end of the human race.

The key thing is that it only has to be almost as good, because it doesn't come along with any of the negatives of real sex (chance of rejection, the effort expended to date/court, risk of disease, risk of predators, etc.)

I actually think he is probably right. And it will affect the technologically advanced, wealthier populations first.


If there was only some way of having kids that didn't involve sex.
 
2012-05-11 05:04:09 PM
FTFA: "So if you do the mathematics, as they did, then the country will have no children within a millennium."

THEN STOP DOING THE MATHEMATICS, YOU HEARTLESS BASTARDS!!!
 
2012-05-11 05:04:11 PM
Another argument is that there are more effeminate men now called "Herbivores" there who are either not interested in sex or women don't find masculine enough

Hmm, perhaps I'll go to Japan and start hitting on some girls that can't find a manly man to talk to.

If that wasn't bad enough, young Japanese people are also, it seems, increasingly not interested in sex.

...nevermind.
 
2012-05-11 05:05:33 PM
I'm getting married in a year and I'll be 33 at the time. Therefore I can safely say that I will have 40-50 wives at the time of my death.
 
2012-05-11 05:07:52 PM

Jake Havechek: If that wasn't bad enough, young Japanese people are also, it seems, increasingly not interested in sex.

Well, there it is.


I blame overfishing.

=Smidge=
/Population will stabilize when death rate = birth rate. Simple as that.
//I kinda wish the rest of the world would have this "problem"
 
2012-05-11 05:08:12 PM

topcon: A nation of intelligent people, not having children.

As opposed to the U.S., where stupid people keep growing and growing (both by size and numbers, at that.)


The issue seems to partially be that as a class, young Japanese, who have been brutalized by a multi-decade recession, vanishing job prospects, corrupt business practices, and the burden of supporting their more numerous elders, have simply given up as a generation. Japan's an interesting example of what happens when you mix population throttling with a high-service nation.
 
2012-05-11 05:10:47 PM

This text is now purple: The issue seems to partially be that as a class, young Japanese, who have been brutalized by a multi-decade recession, vanishing job prospects, corrupt business practices, and the burden of supporting their more numerous elders, have simply given up as a generation. Japan's an interesting example of what happens when you mix population throttling with a high-service nation.


Yes that is probably one of the big factors. I bet with more prosperous times birth rates will go up.
 
2012-05-11 05:10:56 PM

picturescrazy: If I'm not mistaken, and I am most certainly too lazy to look it up, Japan is the most densely populated country in the world, and on top of that everyone lives on the coast. I wonder if humans have a natural instinct to reproduce less if there are too many people around. Not a huge thing or else we would have noticed it by now, but enough that it has a real effect.


Oddly, the only places in Japan that aren't seeing population declines are the densely-crowded cities. Most rural areas are bereft of children.
 
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