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(ESPN)   Indiana Pacers coach Frank Vogel becomes America's favorite basketball coach by saying nine little words about the Miami Heat - "They are the biggest flopping team in the NBA"   (espn.go.com) divider line 82
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2012-05-11 01:24:43 PM  
Of course, crying about the other team's play before the series starts, in order to potentially influence calls throughout the series, is pretty much the coach's version of flopping.
 
2012-05-11 01:48:07 PM  
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2012-05-11 02:18:41 PM  
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2012-05-11 02:19:26 PM  
I watched maybe 5 total minutes of the Heat/Knicks series. I will give the refs some credit. I saw them call James for travelling twice in those 5 minutes- which is twice as many times as I've seen it called on him ever.
 
2012-05-11 03:23:43 PM  
Go Pacers.
 
2012-05-11 03:25:07 PM  

dugitman: I watched maybe 5 total minutes of the Heat/Knicks series. I will give the refs some credit. I saw them call James for travelling twice in those 5 minutes- which is twice as many times as I've seen it called on him ever.


I watched most of the last game. In the first or second quarter, when the Knicks were actually up, Lebron went for a layup and got hit in the hand by Tyson Chandler. He covered his face immediately as he got fouled. The replays just made it look more ridiculous.

The Knicks would have lost anyway, but damn Lebron's a wuss.
 
2012-05-11 03:25:33 PM  
Indiana has an NBA team?
 
2012-05-11 03:27:45 PM  
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2012-05-11 03:29:14 PM  

CastorTroy: Indiana has an NBA team?


Indiana is the farking home of basketball. Your trash talk needs work.
 
2012-05-11 03:29:55 PM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: Indiana is the farking home of basketball. Your trash talk needs work.


Does Jimmy Chitwood play for the Pacers?
 
2012-05-11 03:30:12 PM  

Arkanaut: I watched most of the last game. In the first or second quarter, when the Knicks were actually up, Lebron went for a layup and got hit in the hand by Tyson Chandler


Wasn't that the one where the ball hit him in the face? I don't know if you've been hit in the face with a basketball before, but it doesn't feel good.
 
2012-05-11 03:34:17 PM  

IAmRight: Wasn't that the one where the ball hit him in the face? I don't know if you've been hit in the face with a basketball before, but it doesn't feel good.


OH please, you know the Heat are notorious floppers, stop white knighting them for EVERYTHING.
 
2012-05-11 03:39:00 PM  

TheJoe03: IAmRight: Wasn't that the one where the ball hit him in the face? I don't know if you've been hit in the face with a basketball before, but it doesn't feel good.

OH please, you know the Heat are notorious floppers, stop white knighting them for EVERYTHING.


Flopping has become en vogue in pro sports. Every team in the league does it. More rampant than ever before in football, basketball, and hockey. I seem to be the only one who has a problem with it. It's ridiculous. ANd I'm a soccer fan.
 
2012-05-11 03:39:34 PM  
Every coach in the western conference: "Frank, you have seen the Clippers, right?"
 
2012-05-11 03:40:10 PM  
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2012-05-11 03:40:36 PM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: CastorTroy: Indiana has an NBA team?

Indiana is the farking home of basketball. Your trash talk needs work.


Uh, how do you figure? Springfield, Mass is where basketball was invented and home to the hall of fame. also they don't even have an NBA team....

When did basketball move from Massachusetts to Indiana?
 
2012-05-11 03:40:51 PM  

TheJoe03: OH please, you know the Heat are notorious floppers, stop white knighting them for EVERYTHING.


They certainly flop. I'm just pointing out that, if it's the play I'm remembering, I was upset at the flop at first, then I actually watched the basketball, and it hit him in the face.

Every other team flops, however, and as I said to start this thing off, complaining about flopping before a series begins is the coach's version of a flop. So STFU, Vogel. You just want your less talented, more violent players to get away with stuff they wouldn't normally get away with.
 
2012-05-11 03:41:57 PM  
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Heaters gonna Heat.
 
2012-05-11 03:42:06 PM  
I see others have made the other point I was going to make, which is that the Clippers are also in the NBA, therefore he's crazy.

Wade gets a lifetime achievement award from 2006 alone, though.
 
2012-05-11 03:43:33 PM  

damnproud1388: Chupacabra Sandwich: CastorTroy: Indiana has an NBA team?

Indiana is the farking home of basketball. Your trash talk needs work.

Uh, how do you figure? Springfield, Mass is where basketball was invented and home to the hall of fame. also they don't even have an NBA team....

When did basketball move from Massachusetts to Indiana?


And invented by a Canuck, no less.
 
2012-05-11 03:44:40 PM  

IAmRight: I see others have made the other point I was going to make, which is that the Clippers are also in the NBA, therefore he's crazy.

Wade gets a lifetime achievement award from 2006 alone, though.


He earned The Vlade Divak Award that year.
 
2012-05-11 03:45:16 PM  

damnproud1388: When did basketball move from Massachusetts to Indiana?


Shortly after it was born.
 
2012-05-11 03:49:42 PM  
At least they don't carry guns.
 
2012-05-11 03:52:40 PM  

WhoIsWillo: damnproud1388: When did basketball move from Massachusetts to Indiana?

Shortly after it was born.


And then it went back to Massachusetts to retire at the hall of fame...

Sorry Indiana, you still have no real claim to fame... other than the ridiculous things you're willing to deep-fry and eat at your state fairs.
 
2012-05-11 03:55:21 PM  
Which doesn't take away from the fact that Indiana is going to get steamrolled by the Heat.
 
2012-05-11 03:56:05 PM  

damnproud1388: Sorry Indiana, you still have no real claim to fame


I'll give them Larry Legend. And Damon Bailey. Maybe even Reggie Miller, but he's more SoCal than Hoosier.
 
2012-05-11 03:58:12 PM  

CastorTroy: damnproud1388: Sorry Indiana, you still have no real claim to fame

I'll give them Larry Legend. And Damon Bailey. Maybe even Reggie Miller, but he's more SoCal than Hoosier.


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2012-05-11 03:58:57 PM  

IAmRight: Of course, crying about the other team's play before the series starts, in order to potentially influence calls throughout the series, is pretty much the coach's version of flopping.


It's a smart play. Each generation has a team that will get most of the calls (due to having major stars) and right now that is the Heat. Most likely the Heat were going to get 15-20 (on low end 10) extra FTs per game, which puts the other team in a situation where they have to basically beat them by 10/more to win.

It's not the Heat's fault because they are smart, take advantage of the situation, and drive to the basket to get the call, but I can't blame the Pacer's coach for at least planting this early to lower the FT difference.
 
2012-05-11 03:59:41 PM  
Could be a good series. Too bad the NBA is fixed.

Miami in 6

/watch the Free Throw discrepancy...
 
2012-05-11 04:02:31 PM  

CastorTroy: damnproud1388: Sorry Indiana, you still have no real claim to fame

I'll give them Larry Legend. And Damon Bailey. Maybe even Reggie Miller, but he's more SoCal than Hoosier.


Oscar Robertson and John Wooden
 
2012-05-11 04:06:43 PM  

IAmRight: You just want your less talented, more violent players to get away with stuff they wouldn't normally get away with.


Yes and no. The Pacer starting 5 have half the talent as the Heat. However, the Pacers are running a 10 man rotation even in the playoffs, with lots of hard-nosed rebounders and defensive guys at 6-10. They are a much more physical team than the heat, and are going to get more fouls. Vogel is trying to at least mitigate the phantom fouls. This accomplishes 2 things. Less free-throws and change of possession(for charges), but it also means fewer clock stoppages to allow the big 3 mini-breathers throughout the game. With the ridiculously spread-out playoff schedule, a deep team can no longer wear down a talented but thin team through the course of a 7-game series. A deep team can keep throwing 10 physical players at the thin team through the course of a game and wear them down by the end though. To do this Vogel needs to keep the clock running as close to full time as he can. And of course be as physical as he can push the refs to allow.

/unapologetic lifelong Pacer fan
 
2012-05-11 04:10:54 PM  

TheManofPA: It's a smart play. Each generation has a team that will get most of the calls (due to having major stars) and right now that is the Heat. Most likely the Heat were going to get 15-20 (on low end 10) extra FTs per game, which puts the other team in a situation where they have to basically beat them by 10/more to win.


The Thunder are even worse, but people like Durant and Harden so much that it doesn't seem to get noticed much.
 
2012-05-11 04:16:01 PM  

IAmRight: I see others have made the other point I was going to make, which is that the Clippers are also in the NBA, therefore he's crazy.

Wade gets a lifetime achievement award from 2006 alone, though.


Lifetime Achievement Award in Flopping? Hells to the yeah, he does.

Game 5 of the 2006 Finals was the biggest travesty in sports history. Bennett Salvatore should be spending the rest of his life in a federal penitentiary for those criminal calls in Wade's favor. Wade flopped so well in that game, in fact, that he shot more free throws that the entire Mavericks team.

/go Mavs
//yes, we won the title last year
///and yes, I'm still bitter as hell about 2006
 
2012-05-11 04:17:47 PM  

MilesTeg: Could be a good series. Too bad the NBA is fixed.

Miami in 6

/watch the Free Throw discrepancy...


Sadly this and its corollary the Three Early Fouls Against the Team's Franchise Player.
 
2012-05-11 04:19:19 PM  

TheManofPA: It's a smart play. Each generation has a team that will get most of the calls (due to having major stars) and right now that is the Heat. Most likely the Heat were going to get 15-20 (on low end 10) extra FTs per game, which puts the other team in a situation where they have to basically beat them by 10/more to win.

It's not the Heat's fault because they are smart, take advantage of the situation, and drive to the basket to get the call, but I can't blame the Pacer's coach for at least planting this early to lower the FT difference.


I'm not blaming him, it's his job to work the refs. I'm just pointing out that what he's doing is the exact equivalent of a flop (reacting to an event before it happens in order to affect the ref's opinion).
 
2012-05-11 04:21:38 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: MilesTeg: Could be a good series. Too bad the NBA is fixed.

Miami in 6

/watch the Free Throw discrepancy...

Sadly this and its corollary the Three Early Fouls Against the Team's Franchise Player.


"Boo hoo, the league is against us!"

That way if you lose, you cry "see, the league wanted us to lose." Your hate for the Heat deepens.
If you win, you cry "haha and we beat them despite the league wanting them to win!" Your hate for the Heat deepens.

Meanwhile, Miami is simply the better team, as evidenced by the teams' records and the head-to-head. But that will be ignored because you're crying about fouls.
 
2012-05-11 04:27:49 PM  

dugitman: /unapologetic lifelong Pacer fan


Good analysis. Enjoy the series!

/Heat fan since 1987
 
2012-05-11 04:44:18 PM  

IAmRight: TheShavingofOccam123: MilesTeg: Could be a good series. Too bad the NBA is fixed.

Miami in 6

/watch the Free Throw discrepancy...

Sadly this and its corollary the Three Early Fouls Against the Team's Franchise Player.

"Boo hoo, the league is against us!"

That way if you lose, you cry "see, the league wanted us to lose." Your hate for the Heat deepens.
If you win, you cry "haha and we beat them despite the league wanting them to win!" Your hate for the Heat deepens.

Meanwhile, Miami is simply the better team, as evidenced by the teams' records and the head-to-head. But that will be ignored because you're crying about fouls.


It's amazing. I can tell your posts in a Miami Heat thread without even looking at your username. Consistancy is the key.

Even though I have a distaste for the Heat, it's impossible to deny they are likely going to the finals. They flop like my right beach sandal.

/left one flips.
 
2012-05-11 04:46:26 PM  

IAmRight: TheShavingofOccam123: MilesTeg: Could be a good series. Too bad the NBA is fixed.

Miami in 6

/watch the Free Throw discrepancy...

Sadly this and its corollary the Three Early Fouls Against the Team's Franchise Player.

"Boo hoo, the league is against us!"

That way if you lose, you cry "see, the league wanted us to lose." Your hate for the Heat deepens.
If you win, you cry "haha and we beat them despite the league wanting them to win!" Your hate for the Heat deepens.

Meanwhile, Miami is simply the better team, as evidenced by the teams' records and the head-to-head. But that will be ignored because you're crying about fouls.


Buh-bye.
 
2012-05-11 04:46:29 PM  
*meant to add 'though' after 'right beach sandal'. I wasn't implying that's why they're going, just that they do.
 
2012-05-11 04:47:52 PM  

CastorTroy: dugitman: /unapologetic lifelong Pacer fan

Good analysis. Enjoy the series!

/Heat fan since 1987


You too. I have decent tix for game 3 so you may get to see me taunt(or cry) on TV.
 
2012-05-11 04:49:10 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Buh-bye.


Bye!

/good argument, btw
//the better team always needs the refs' help, great concept
 
2012-05-11 04:54:08 PM  

dugitman: I watched maybe 5 total minutes of the Heat/Knicks series. I will give the refs some credit. I saw them call James for travelling twice in those 5 minutes- which is twice as many times as I've seen it called on him ever.


This was my dad's biatch on Jordan. "They never call him for traveling! He's a ball hog. WHY DON"T THEY CALL TRAVELING?"
 
2012-05-11 04:54:58 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: IAmRight: TheShavingofOccam123: MilesTeg: Could be a good series. Too bad the NBA is fixed.

Miami in 6

/watch the Free Throw discrepancy...

Sadly this and its corollary the Three Early Fouls Against the Team's Franchise Player.

"Boo hoo, the league is against us!"

That way if you lose, you cry "see, the league wanted us to lose." Your hate for the Heat deepens.
If you win, you cry "haha and we beat them despite the league wanting them to win!" Your hate for the Heat deepens.

Meanwhile, Miami is simply the better team, as evidenced by the teams' records and the head-to-head. But that will be ignored because you're crying about fouls.

Buh-bye.


What did he say that was so offensive?
 
2012-05-11 04:56:38 PM  

Rising From Ashes: dugitman: I watched maybe 5 total minutes of the Heat/Knicks series. I will give the refs some credit. I saw them call James for travelling twice in those 5 minutes- which is twice as many times as I've seen it called on him ever.

This was my dad's biatch on Jordan. "They never call him for traveling! He's a ball hog. WHY DON"T THEY CALL TRAVELING?"


As long as you throw a big dunk on the end of it, you can take up to thirteen steps. It's in the rulebook.
 
2012-05-11 04:59:58 PM  
the Clippers would like a word.

Griffen + Paul = BIGGEST FLOPPERS EVER. it's more than Romney to the John Kerryith power.
 
2012-05-11 05:07:52 PM  

damnproud1388: When did basketball move from Massachusetts to Indiana?


"Basketball really had its origin in Indiana, which remains the center of the sport today."

James Naismith, 1939
 
2012-05-11 05:08:10 PM  

Gunny Highway: What did he say that was so offensive?


Some people can't handle being called on bullsh*t like whining about officiating BEFORE a series starts.

FFS, if you're just going to call it rigged when your team loses, why watch? There's one series where I'm still upset, and my team was the higher seed, then had players suspended for standing up and not doing anything and had a crooked ref involved in another loss.

I could start complaining in advance about a potential OKC-Heat matchup, but I'll save it for later. Suffice to say, Stern isn't going to voluntarily screw over his best buddy for life Clay Bennett for a bunch of players who subverted the importance of owners and GMs.
 
2012-05-11 05:09:20 PM  

Dr_J: "Basketball really had its origin in Indiana, which remains the center of the sport today."

James Naismith, 1939


Who the hell is that? Clearly some jackass that doesn't know anything about basketball.

/if you don't know I'm kidding, please just put me on ignore, you'll save me a lot of arguing with stupid people
 
2012-05-11 05:14:30 PM  

Rising From Ashes: This was my dad's biatch on Jordan. "They never call him for traveling! He's a ball hog. WHY DON"T THEY CALL TRAVELING?"


I'm hit and miss with Jordan. I'm 45 so I saw him from his NC freshman year through a LOT of battles with the Pacers, and of course the 90s championships. As far as the "Jordan Rules"- yeah he got a lot of BS foul calls, but I do give him credit for always being the aggressor on those. You didnt see him flop, or hell, even try to take a charge. He got the calls for recklessly bulldozing into the paint right at the big guys. His traveling really didnt happen until the 90s once the jordan rules were in full force and he knew he could take advantage of the refs/league. He had some nifty footwork shiat in his 20s that was lightning fast and looked like traveling, but wasnt. Don't get me wrong- Jordan was/is a huge asshole, but he was a hell of a player even without getting preferential treatment. I think I hate him more for being the genesis of all that's wrong with the NBA now, than the way he played and was accomodated during his career.
 
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