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2012-05-11 03:36:49 PM  

SkinnyHead: Beaver1224: "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival." -Chief Justice Warren, Loving v. Virginia

What is it about "marriage" that makes it "fundamental to our very existence and survival?"


I never forget my wedding day when my wife and I had our genitals installed. Couldn't wait to try them out.
 
2012-05-11 03:37:36 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Also, note that solving problems is not a serial process. We have the remarkable ability to work on more than one thing at a time.


Sheesh, so much this. "Government has better things to focus on" is the lamest argument out there.

What, should we prioritize the thousands of problems facing our society in an internet slide-show, and tackle each one-by-one?

How do you live your life? I'm having some financial hardship. I'd say that's probably problem #1 in my life right now. Should I not cut the grass and take out the trash until that #1 issue is solved?

Also, civil rights is kinda important in America.
 
2012-05-11 03:37:42 PM  

IAmRight: /yes they should be allowed to marry
//no, this does not need to be headline news everywhere


LOL
 
2012-05-11 03:38:10 PM  

whidbey: Like, grow up and join the 1st Century.


FTFY

/ancient cultures loved homosexuality
 
2012-05-11 03:38:13 PM  

whidbey: Esc7: What does Gyrfalcon see that CPennypacker doesn't?

what do his falcon eyes see!??

She sees Dumb People.

/walk around like everyone else
//don't know they're dumb
///slashies
////not just for breakfast anymore


obviously i've just had too much coffee.

and i screwed up my gendered pronouns...AGAIN. Seriously I had a feeling about gyrfalcon, looked at her profile page...saw no tip offs...damn. I need to keep a damn list of you TFers taped to the side of my monitor.
 
2012-05-11 03:38:42 PM  
A good way to spend tax dollars is defending dumb laws.
 
2012-05-11 03:39:18 PM  

Biological Ali: IAmRight: If you know what the word AND means, that's precisely what I said in the first place.

This is just getting uncomfortable to watch now. Seriously, take a break. Trust me, we all know that it's never particularly pleasant to acknowledge a mistake, and this can occasionally drive even the best of us to make uncharacteristically convoluted arguments so as to avoid admitting that we were wrong. But really, it's not worth it. Just let it go; you'll thank yourself for it later.


Why bother arguing with Semantics Boy, anyway?
 
2012-05-11 03:40:59 PM  
Dear North Carolina,

You suck.
 
2012-05-11 03:41:18 PM  

whidbey: but the topic really brings out the human garbage side of our species.


Indeed it does and that shall assist in the dismantling of Romney's campaign, not like it would be too tough in the first place. But, getting back to your point, it brings out the crazies and the GOP will once again remind the public of what they are really all about.

The gift of the social issuesdebate just keeps on giving.
 
2012-05-11 03:41:26 PM  

IAmRight: Yes, they are much more on the level of the randoms that did those things, not one of the leaders of the movement.


I just find it funny that you chastise these women for doing exactly what Martin Luther King Jr. preached. Apparently you'd find him to be an enormous douche because not only did he do these things himself, he led and told others to do it as well.

IAmRight: civil rights is relatively useless sh*t


I disagree!
 
2012-05-11 03:41:57 PM  

Esc7: b3x: The_EliteOne: I told him that statistically speaking, one his 4 sisters (probably the youngest) is going to turn out gay.

He is right not to believe you, your saying that 25% of women are gay. or your trying to say that a women with 3 older sisters has a very high chance of being gay. Your going to have to back that up with some facts, just not some anecdotal nonsense like "most of the girls i know are gay"

It's been shown that statistically, the more older siblings you have, the higher chance you have to be homosexual. But apparently most of the talk is about boys, not girls.

/wonders about my youngest brother
//of seven


Hmmmm... interesting. I've never seen such a study, so I'm just speaking hypothetically here.

I'd think that the percentage of actual homosexuals is the same across all people regardless of their placement in age-order of their siblings.

But the more siblings you have, the younger ones may get less focused attention on "living life the right way" by their parents.

I'd bet you'd find that homosexuals are more inclined to be out (or, more severely, admit it to themselves) the farther they are down on the tree (in terms of age-order of siblings)

I know in my family (4 kids, 10 years between #1 and #4)... child #1 got all the dicipline... child #4... "do whatever the fark you want, we're sick of raising you all".
 
2012-05-11 03:42:15 PM  

Esc7: I need to keep a damn list of you TFers taped to the side of my monitor.


It helps to attend the staff meetings.

IAmRight: whidbey: Like, grow up and join the 1st Century.

FTFY

/ancient cultures loved homosexuality


Yeah well they liked to skin people alive too. Your point?
 
2012-05-11 03:43:49 PM  

Biological Ali: IAmRight: Actually, she was still getting on the bus to go home. She didn't go on the bus for the express purpose of calling national media attention to herself. When asked to move, sure, she fought. But these people, who are already married, went in directly after a law was passed and bothered a clerk just to make their point.

You know, if you had just said something like "Gee, I guess I was wrong about Rosa Parks; now that you mention it, she really was looking to make a point", nobody would be giving you any grief for it. We all make mistakes. But doubling down the way you are is just plain stupid.


IAmRight always doubles down. I have see him around a lot.
 
2012-05-11 03:44:10 PM  

whidbey: Yeah well they liked to skin people alive too. Your point?


That acceptance of homosexuality isn't something new, nor does it require an advanced, open mind.
 
2012-05-11 03:45:01 PM  

ha-ha-guy: To be fair, setting up camp at the clerk's office and refusing to leave is always going to get you a police escort out of the building at the very least. This feels like a planned move to draw attention to the issue.


No! Ya think?
 
2012-05-11 03:45:27 PM  

smeegle: whidbey: but the topic really brings out the human garbage side of our species.

Indeed it does and that shall assist in the dismantling of Romney's campaign, not like it would be too tough in the first place. But, getting back to your point, it brings out the crazies and the GOP will once again remind the public of what they are really all about.

The gift of the social issuesdebate just keeps on giving.


Well just noting the unforgivable disregard of people as human beings we're seeing here.

It's worse than the '80s.
 
2012-05-11 03:46:19 PM  

IAmRight: whidbey: Yeah well they liked to skin people alive too. Your point?

That acceptance of homosexuality isn't something new, nor does it require an advanced, open mind.


It might not be new, but the hell it doesn't.

Otherwise we would have had legal same-sex marriage for decades now.
 
2012-05-11 03:50:06 PM  

whidbey: It's worse than the '80s.


Oh yes, the '80s, when anyone with HIV was required to stay the hell away from any other human being for fear of contamination. That was WAY less disgusting than not getting a piece of paper as a couple.

Even in the most restrictive places in America, gay people can be employed anywhere, live anywhere, have a relationship with whoever they want, live together, etc.

You're going to be really disappointed when you are able to get married and you realize it's nothing special.
 
2012-05-11 03:50:19 PM  

The Only Jeff:
Didn't the federal government already deprive them of liberty under DOMA?


The problem is under our constitution, they government has to enact a bad law and you have to suffer damages from it before you can challenge it as unconstitutional in court.

If the government wants to be a bigger dick they claim its national security.
 
2012-05-11 03:50:42 PM  

Gulper Eel: SkinnyHead: Beaver1224: "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival." -Chief Justice Warren, Loving v. Virginia

What is it about "marriage" that makes it "fundamental to our very existence and survival?"

It's not marriage that is fundamental, but the right to marriage.


The Loving v. Virginia, the Supreme Court said "Marriage is one of the 'basic civil rights of man,' fundamental to our very existence and survival." The Supreme Court cited Skinner v. Oklahoma for that point.

In Skinner v. Oklahoma, the Supreme Court said: "Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race."

The thing about the right of marriage that makes it "fundamental to our very existence and survival," is that marriage is between a man and a woman. Because this fundamental right, which is deemed necessary to "our very existence and survival," is described in terms of "marriage and procreation," it must follow that the fundamental right of marriage (that the Supreme Court declared in Loving) means marriage between man and woman, for that is the only union that can result in natural procreation.
 
2012-05-11 03:51:01 PM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: vudu WTF who the hell boils peanuts?


North Carolinians, apparently. They sell them in crock pots at the POP in every little store they got down there.
And why do you have the name of a Natvie American Demon in your Fark Handle?
 
2012-05-11 03:51:03 PM  

Gyrfalcon: This text is now purple: Antimatter: State Constitutions cannot do things that violate the federal one. If the fed says you have the right to X, then the state cannot say otherwise, and if it does, that statement cannot be enforced as law.

Difficulty, state laws can be more stringent than federal laws.

Provided the state law does not violate the Federal Constitution OR conflict with Federal law in any way. If the state law does conflict with federal law, then the Supremacy Clause applies, and the state law is void.


You cannot be more stringent than federal law without conflicting with it.
 
2012-05-11 03:51:18 PM  

Citrate1007: Republican's like to pretend they've read the constitution....I find that funny.


If I may expound on that idea a bit:

Is there some sort of negative correlation between the degree to which a person goes on and and about how important some particular document (Constitution, Bible, what-have-you) is and how much they love it and how familiar they actually are with its contents?

I seem to recall there having been some study that showed atheists were more versed in the content of the Christian Bible than Christians in the USA were. I wonder if any studies have been done comparing how well conservatives know the Constitution, compared to non-conservatives?
 
2012-05-11 03:51:51 PM  
I must be the outlier... I am an only gay child.
 
2012-05-11 03:52:51 PM  

Probably_From_Texas: Why is it so important to coddle and pacify such a small portion of the population?

Is the LBGT lobby really that powerful?


Maybe because they are citizens?
 
2012-05-11 03:53:02 PM  

IAmRight: You're going to be really disappointed when you are able to get married and you realize it's nothing special.


To you it isn't. We get that.

It's actually a big deal for everyone else. I know that probably makes you mad.
 
2012-05-11 03:53:06 PM  

whidbey: It might not be new, but the hell it doesn't.


Oh, those primitive cultures in New Guinea. So open minded! Sure they constantly war with other tribes for no reason, but they have boys suck their dicks as a rite of passage into manhood! That's some open-minded sh*t right there!

Constantly thinking you're open-minded and demonizing anyone that doesn't agree with you is almost as offensive as denying others' liberties. (Almost, not really quite there since you're just being an asshole instead of being an asshole that has power).
 
2012-05-11 03:53:11 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: What activity is illegal against an individual only if they are behaving gay?


Hairdressing without a license?
 
2012-05-11 03:53:50 PM  

whidbey: t's worse than the '80s.


It is worse and the screech factor is much higher. The sudden state by state swoop down on Women's Reproductive rights and health care is a shinning example of what they are willing to sacrifice in order to appease their base.
The GOP has slithered into the murky abyss of the frothing religious right and the insanity of it will be their undoing.
 
2012-05-11 03:55:06 PM  
Doesn't look like a same sex marriage.
 
2012-05-11 03:56:42 PM  

whidbey: It's actually a big deal for everyone else.


No, it's only a big deal for people that can't get married and for people that think it's super-important that they can.

It's kind of like sex in that way - when you can have it, it's not that big a deal. When you can't, you think it's the most important thing in the world.

The only reason it's not legal now is because god damn, people love wedge issues like this that they can exploit the hell out of in election years. Sells papers, sells links, riles people up about things that don't require difficult analysis...it's just like printing money.
 
2012-05-11 03:56:49 PM  

IAmRight: whidbey: It might not be new, but the hell it doesn't.

Oh, those primitive cultures in New Guinea. So open minded! Sure they constantly war with other tribes for no reason, but they have boys suck their dicks as a rite of passage into manhood! That's some open-minded sh*t right there!

Constantly thinking you're open-minded and demonizing anyone that doesn't agree with you is almost as offensive as denying others' liberties. (Almost, not really quite there since you're just being an asshole instead of being an asshole that has power).


Wow your derp factor is increasing.
 
2012-05-11 03:57:05 PM  

El Freak: A challenge to Republican fundietards and other like-minded imbeciles: give me one argument for being against gay marriage that isn't based on a fairy tale book that was written by bronze age goat herders, your misguided ideas about how things were back in the "good old days", or your belief that gay sex is icky. I just want one logical, rational reason that I should be against gay marriage. I won't hold my breath.


disclosure: I absolutely support gay marriage.

but I know what the opposing argument really is. It is the belief that children of gay parents will suffer more than children in straight families. that the moral turpitude of their gay parents will ruin their lives. This is the primary belief. they use hired gun scientists and psychologists from unaccredited schools to create data that reflects their opinion. this is their ammunition which with they stoke the ire of their constituents. they have also realized that they can use the bible to convert anyone else.

the whole protect marriage crap started when gay people wanted to adopt children. currently, in some states, a gay couple cannot adopt a child. that means, if there is a gay couple, one adopts, the other has no rights whatsoever. if the adoptive parent dies, the kid goes to the system. gays wanted to protect their families by creating some kind of right to their partner's adoptive child.

then, a very wise political group realized that it would be better to couch the argument on marriage as opposed to on unwanted children.

the marriage issue was so inflammatory, that the whole children issue is hardly discussed. victory republicans. now, they have won their adoption issue, because no one is pushing the issue as hard, and the marriage issue will be a harder sell, because on the one hand, there are people who think they should just lighten up, it's just a word. they fail to realize it is the difference between a legal relationship with your child, or a completely precarious relationship with your child.
 
2012-05-11 03:57:13 PM  

SkinnyHead: means marriage between man and woman, for that is the only union that can result in natural procreation.


People screw outside of wedlock and have kids on a regular basis dimwit, what's your point?
 
2012-05-11 03:57:32 PM  

ciberido: I seem to recall there having been some study that showed atheists were more versed in the content of the Christian Bible than Christians in the USA were.


That is SO messed up. What's the point of being an atheist if you have to waste your time reading the Bible?
 
2012-05-11 03:57:40 PM  

Probably_From_Texas: Why is it so important to coddle and pacify such a small portion of the population?

Is the LBGT lobby really that powerful?


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You'd better believe it! We're coming for you! Better run while you can.


Ogre840: No, but the gay mafia is.


Nothing is more powerful than the gay bandidos!
 
2012-05-11 03:58:47 PM  

SkinnyHead: In Skinner v. Oklahoma, the Supreme Court said: "Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race."

The thing about the right of marriage that makes it "fundamental to our very existence and survival," is that marriage is between a man and a woman. Because this fundamental right, which is deemed necessary to "our very existence and survival," is described in terms of "marriage and procreation," it must follow that the fundamental right of marriage (that the Supreme Court declared in Loving) means marriage between man and woman, for that is the only union that can result in natural procreation.


I bolded the important word there. Both marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race. That can be interpreted as marriage alone is also fundamental.

Most likely because in the eyes of the law, marriage is seen as something that holds society together... regardless of if you have kids or not.
 
2012-05-11 03:59:12 PM  

JDAT: Doesn't look like a same sex marriage.


No doubt you've been mistaken for a man before also.
 
2012-05-11 04:00:38 PM  

downstairs: Esc7: b3x: The_EliteOne: I told him that statistically speaking, one his 4 sisters (probably the youngest) is going to turn out gay.

He is right not to believe you, your saying that 25% of women are gay. or your trying to say that a women with 3 older sisters has a very high chance of being gay. Your going to have to back that up with some facts, just not some anecdotal nonsense like "most of the girls i know are gay"

It's been shown that statistically, the more older siblings you have, the higher chance you have to be homosexual. But apparently most of the talk is about boys, not girls.

/wonders about my youngest brother
//of seven

Hmmmm... interesting. I've never seen such a study, so I'm just speaking hypothetically here.

I'd think that the percentage of actual homosexuals is the same across all people regardless of their placement in age-order of their siblings.

But the more siblings you have, the younger ones may get less focused attention on "living life the right way" by their parents.

I'd bet you'd find that homosexuals are more inclined to be out (or, more severely, admit it to themselves) the farther they are down on the tree (in terms of age-order of siblings)

I know in my family (4 kids, 10 years between #1 and #4)... child #1 got all the dicipline... child #4... "do whatever the fark you want, we're sick of raising you all".


Has nothing to do with the way they are raised. It appears to be linked to hormonal changes in the mother, higher testosterone levels appearing with each successive male child.

Link
 
2012-05-11 04:00:39 PM  

kcfoxie: I must be the outlier... I am an only gay child.


Are you an eskimo?
 
2012-05-11 04:01:23 PM  

hdhale: /I favor allowing gay people to get married, but this was just silly, the North Carolina law could have been challenged without the one act play


you can't challenge it without the one act play. there is no such thing as contitutional review without a current and actual controversy. that often means getting arrested. you must have legal standing to bring anything before the court. if there was no one act play, this whole issue would have disappeared in 3 sentences bearing the title motion to dismiss for lack of standing
 
2012-05-11 04:01:42 PM  

IAmRight: whidbey: It's actually a big deal for everyone else.

No, it's only a big deal for people that can't get married and for people that think it's super-important that they can.

It's kind of like sex in that way - when you can have it, it's not that big a deal. When you can't, you think it's the most important thing in the world.

The only reason it's not legal now is because god damn, people love wedge issues like this that they can exploit the hell out of in election years. Sells papers, sells links, riles people up about things that don't require difficult analysis...it's just like printing money.


Another good reason the legalization of same sex marriage should be high-profile would be to throw this victory in the faces of the homophobes and the bigots who never thought they'd see the day that people they considered 2nd class citizens are now LEGALLY equal to them in terms of who they choose to marry.

It's awesome, actually.
 
2012-05-11 04:02:07 PM  

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2012-05-11 04:02:12 PM  

smeegle: SkinnyHead: means marriage between man and woman, for that is the only union that can result in natural procreation.

People screw outside of wedlock and have kids on a regular basis dimwit, what's your point?


God intended for children to be raised by couples like this.

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2012-05-11 04:03:28 PM  

darkedgefan: Eh, it does not matter what the people vote for. Some farking activist judge will just overturn it. They know better then voters.


Remember to add "activist judge = judge who is not politically conservative" to your Conservativespeak-English Dictionary, along with "family values = conservative values" and "small government = create more laws to promote social conservatism."

It's a work in progress.
 
2012-05-11 04:03:29 PM  

tommydee: What's the point of being an atheist if you have to waste your time reading the Bible?


know your enemy?
Better yet, if one is well versed in a tome that is often used to weald power then knowing more than the farktards thumping it, gives you the upper hand.
 
2012-05-11 04:03:54 PM  

tommydee: ciberido: I seem to recall there having been some study that showed atheists were more versed in the content of the Christian Bible than Christians in the USA were.

That is SO messed up. What's the point of being an atheist if you have to waste your time reading the Bible?


I don't consider myself an athiest, but I've read the bible several times in my life. For me is was to try and understand what it meant and more importantly why.

I consider myself a meh when it comes to religion. I just plain don't care enough to label myself anything.
 
2012-05-11 04:04:12 PM  

downstairs: Esc7: b3x: The_EliteOne: I told him that statistically speaking, one his 4 sisters (probably the youngest) is going to turn out gay.

He is right not to believe you, your saying that 25% of women are gay. or your trying to say that a women with 3 older sisters has a very high chance of being gay. Your going to have to back that up with some facts, just not some anecdotal nonsense like "most of the girls i know are gay"

It's been shown that statistically, the more older siblings you have, the higher chance you have to be homosexual. But apparently most of the talk is about boys, not girls.

/wonders about my youngest brother
//of seven

Hmmmm... interesting. I've never seen such a study, so I'm just speaking hypothetically here.

I'd think that the percentage of actual homosexuals is the same across all people regardless of their placement in age-order of their siblings.

But the more siblings you have, the younger ones may get less focused attention on "living life the right way" by their parents.

I'd bet you'd find that homosexuals are more inclined to be out (or, more severely, admit it to themselves) the farther they are down on the tree (in terms of age-order of siblings)

I know in my family (4 kids, 10 years between #1 and #4)... child #1 got all the dicipline... child #4... "do whatever the fark you want, we're sick of raising you all".


There was a story referencing this study recently (last week, maybe) on Fark.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=having-older-brother s -inc
 
2012-05-11 04:04:42 PM  
www.truthwinsout.org
 
2012-05-11 04:05:23 PM  

pute kisses like a man: disclosure: I absolutely support gay marriage.


This is the other thing that annoys me about the people pushing so hard about it. They assume that simply because you're annoyed by their methods, that you must be an idiot/bigot who thinks they shouldn't have the right to marry.

The kid issue is complicated, which is why it doesn't make a good wedge issue. It does seem kind of weird to want to only have same-sex relationships yet still want to have kids. Obviously sexuality is a spectrum of sorts, but that stuff certainly muddies the waters for even more people.

And then it really ultimately becomes a benefit to have a male-male relationship - you get to have more earning power, you have no restrictions, you don't have to ever actually give birth...I mean, it's pretty much better to be gay at that point.
 
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