Saboteur
Etymology

sabot + -eur French literally "shoe thrower" (where mill workers would throw their wooden shoes into the machinery to make it halt or break down.)

shiat. There's a lot of baying for blood in this thread.

KeelingLovesCornholes: You're right. But othe prison conditions are as liberal as their criminal laws, he will spend the next 20 years writing his memoirs and manifestos, recruiting and radicalizimg both those within the prison system and those outside of it. by professing his views as religion. And this he will cultivate what most ego maniacs want...and audience, followers who think like he does and worship him.

No. I'm pretty sure he's just going to rot in jail.

He'll probably be treated fairly well, too. As he should be, as he is a human being. He's related to anyone reading this post. Every single one of us descended, ultimately, from a small number of inquisitive Africans,

That's why most nations don't have capital punishment or torture on their statute books - would you enjoy administering torture to Breivik or any other human? If you would, please explain the difference in your mentality from that of Breivik's.

Breivik has committed a horrible crime, and traumatised a generation. Should he be killed or tortured for his crime? No, because we're better than him. Torture is inhumane, and how could we pretend to be better than Breivik if we kill or torture him?

The best argument against the death penalty, for Americans, however, is that it's administered by the government. Death is irreversible; have US states ever killed people whom have later been found to be innocent of the crimes for which they were accused? Of course they have.

Do you trust your government 100%, and believe they should be able to kill you?

Is Breivik innocent? Absolutely not. But he should be treated the same as anyone else by Norway's law.

/If you've led a bad life, living, knowing what you've done is a far worse torture than death.
//I guess all those favouring death are religious types who believe in some sort of afterlife?

The_Sponge: FTFA:

Breivik remained calm and "smiled a little" as he watched security guards apprehend the man and take him out of the court room, Akerman told The Associated Press.


Dear Norway,

Could you please make the death penalty legal in your country temporarily?

Sincerely,

The_Sponge

No.

This guy doesn't get to be a martyr to his fevered imagination. He gets to spend the next 60+ years of his life being treated humanely in an Ikea dorm room while every single person in his culture uses his name as a combination of Hitler and Bozo the Clown. He gets to watch while everyone he has ever known treats his insane cause with the disdain which it so richly deserves.

He doesn't get a blaze of glory. He doesn't get the righteous fight he wanted. He gets the "We're not angry, we're just really disappointed" treatment for the rest of his life.

Whoa. What is with Iraqis and throwing shoes?

sigdiamond2000: I will never understand the shoe throwing thing. Even in a cultural context it makes no sense.

Even if by some miracle you hit your intended target, you're out a shoe. You're not getting that shoe back. You've basically ruined a pair of shoes and you're going to be hopping home like an idiot.

How does this punish the person you threw the shoe at?

Taking off your shoe, holding it in your hand and hitting someone with it, that I understand, even endorse. Throwing a shoe...it just doesn't make any sense. You may as well throw your pants at them.

I've always felt the same thing. I mean, even if you hit him, now he has your shoe. And he could always just throw it back. Or smirk, keep it, and walk away.

I will never understand the shoe throwing thing. Even in a cultural context it makes no sense.

Even if by some miracle you hit your intended target, you're out a shoe. You're not getting that shoe back. You've basically ruined a pair of shoes and you're going to be hopping home like an idiot.

How does this punish the person you threw the shoe at?

Taking off your shoe, holding it in your hand and hitting someone with it, that I understand, even endorse. Throwing a shoe...it just doesn't make any sense. You may as well throw your pants at them.

FTFA:

Breivik remained calm and "smiled a little" as he watched security guards apprehend the man and take him out of the court room, Akerman told The Associated Press.


Dear Norway,

Could you please make the death penalty legal in your country temporarily?

Sincerely,

The_Sponge

the far-right fanatic is being tried for the bomb-and-shooting attacks that left 77 people dead on July 22.
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Breivik testified in graphic detail on how he set off a car bomb that killed eight people in Oslo's government district and then hunted down teenagers at the governing Labor Party's annual youth camp on Utoya island. More than half of the 69 people killed on Utoya were teenagers.
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If found guilty and criminally sane, he would face 21 years in prison

As much criticism as I have for the US Justice/penal system, that is just farking crazy.