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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Joss Whedon's "Firefly" crew, flying high ten years later. (SPOILER ALERT: it's not coming back.)   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 151
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2012-05-11 05:45:48 PM
Kaylee was ok.. but morraine as inara is one of the most beautiful women i have ever seen.. EVER.... i would love to get my thumb in that pooper....
 
2012-05-11 05:49:26 PM

Fish in a Barrel: jakomo002: Arkanaut: Alan Tudyk should be getting more work.

I saw this awesomely funny movie where he was one of the stars.

"Tucker and Dale vs Evil"

Hilarious slasher-flick send-up, where he plays a hillbilly.

Gold.

It was easily one of the funniest movies I've seen in years.

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I laughed my ass off. My wife, who hates slashers, wants to see it.
 
2012-05-11 05:53:01 PM

ha-ha-guy:
I could totally go for a movie from the Alliance's perspective though. Or a couple movies on the civil war.


Mercenary ship attempting to capture Reavers for study by the Alliance.
 
2012-05-11 05:54:56 PM
Ok all this and not one farkin summer glau pic what a rip off!
 
2012-05-11 05:55:51 PM
Jim from Saint Paul: What are some of examples of shows that get it right to you?

Huh. I'd have to think about it. I'm so used to people calling me a moron for not either loving or hating everything Whedon does that I've never had to answer that before. I do admit to being pretty picky, apparently.
 
2012-05-11 06:01:03 PM
DeWayne Mann: Bad stuff happens IRL, and we don't have to deal with demons/brainwiped assassins/vast interplanetary government conspiracies/etc. It makes every bit of sense that worse things should happen to his characters.

To some extent, yes, but that doesn't justify any particular bad thing. Lots of bad things do happen to his characters in ways I'm not objecting to. They get beat up a lot, they endure all manner of indignities. Xander gets tired of being evil's buttmonkey. It's partly a question of tone (bad things happen in Adventures in Babysitting, but no one has an eye gouged out, to pick a random example) and a question of intent.

Personally, I think it's pretty clear when Whedon is jerking the characters and audience around, as opposed to just putting the agonist in protagonist. I guessed three characters who might get screwed in Serenity, and two of them did. I guessed the big dark twist in Dr Horrible during the first third. On Buffy and Angel, it got awfully easy to guess when a romantic relationship was going to hit a wall and go spinning off a cliff.

I don't think I'm a brilliant prophet. I think he's predictable when he's intentionally bending the narrative to inject 'dramatic' tragedy.

I haven't seen Chuck or Fringe, so I can't compare. Ditto with The Wire, but my understanding is that the tone of that show is pretty different. A lot of Whedon's bread and butter lies in the subversion of genre tropes, simultaneously improving them and showing their weaknesses. Plus he's great with dialogue and casting.

When his characters have to save the world despite homework and sexual tension and the triviality of everydayness, that's great. But when they keep taking a lawnmower to the genitals in ways that have nothing to do with the plot, I don't think that's character development or atmosphere anymore. It's just tragedy porn.

Life does suck. But it would be awesome to have superpowers. If having superpowers / being awesome is no consolation, you're probably just wasting my time.
 
2012-05-11 06:01:29 PM

DeWayne Mann: Neeek: That depends on how you define "protagonist".

/But yeah, it's pretty low.

Yeah, I know, I struggled on word choice. But here's who I came up with:

Chuck:
Stephen Bartowski
Bryce Larkin



Also the black CIA guy that was Sarah's boss in the beginning of the show.
 
2012-05-11 06:01:50 PM
jakomo002: Uh, it's probably one of the most common device used by writers.

Your characters have to SUFFER for people to actually give two shiats about them. I mean, look at anything.


I appreciate what you're talking about, but I'm afraid you don't know what I'm talking about. No offense. Characters explicitly don't need to SUFFER, in all caps. Dramatic agony has to take the form of obstacles but does not have to be literal agony. This distinction is important. Agony has its place, but even a fluffy-kitten children's story generally has dramatic agony. Rarely the torture and burning alive.

I'm speaking specifically of suffering that I believe was contrived, inappropriate to tone, and gratuitous. I like plenty of gory horror films, etc. It's a question of fit.
 
2012-05-11 06:06:27 PM

DeWayne Mann: Jim from Saint Paul: Beer. Bad.

Beer Bad gets marginally better if you assume it's a prequel for "That Vision Thing", the Angel episode that ALSO has Kal Penn.


That's time allowing you to apologize away what one of the bottom 3 episodes of the series.
 
2012-05-11 06:08:20 PM

RandomAxe: Jim from Saint Paul: What are some of examples of shows that get it right to you?

Huh. I'd have to think about it. I'm so used to people calling me a moron for not either loving or hating everything Whedon does that I've never had to answer that before. I do admit to being pretty picky, apparently.


You definetly sound picky, lol.

Just want an idea of where ya come from, that's all.
 
2012-05-11 06:11:37 PM

RandomAxe: It's partly a question of tone


I think this is where our disconnect lies. Because, IMO, this sort of stuff goes along with the tone of everything Whedon does.

RandomAxe: I guessed three characters who might get screwed in Serenity, and two of them did.


Tell the truth: knowing that Firefly/Serenity had been cancelled, and knowing that Whedon likes to screw his characters over...after Wash died, how many MORE people did you expect to do the same? Because for me, I was pretty sure River would live and MAYBE one or two others. He knows his reputation.

RandomAxe: I haven't seen Chuck or Fringe, so I can't compare. Ditto with The Wire,


I know you just sorta responded to this, but...what DO you watch? I can sort of forgive the first two, which are both fun little sci-fi shows. But not seeing The Wire? On Fark? Highly recommend you fix that.

Neeek: Also the black CIA guy that was Sarah's boss in the beginning of the show.


Yeah, I forgot him. I knew there was something up with that, but I chalked it up to Beckman being an entirely different person in the pilot and moved on with my list.

Emmitt died too, but I have trouble defining him as a protagonist.
 
2012-05-11 06:13:16 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: That's time allowing you to apologize away what one of the bottom 3 episodes of the series.


What apology? That episode sucks.

I'm just saying, if you were forced to watch it again, do so while assuming that Kal Penn drinks so much enchanted beer that it causes him to somehow lose the top half of his skull and then gain weird psychic powers.
 
2012-05-11 06:13:50 PM

DeWayne Mann: jakomo002: Actually, that might be the only guy who actually gets away scott-free in that whole series :) Must have had it written into his contract, sneaky badger.

Wait, serious question, has anything bad every happened to Mark Sheppard in any show ever? The WORST I can come up with is the X-Files, where he had 6th degree burns...yet was healing at a rapid pace and was able to ask for a cigarette just a few days later.

I haven't seen everything he's done, of course, so maybe someone else can come up with something. But let's see:

Chuck - Wasn't in the room when it got blown up, disappears afterwords.

Firefly - Sad little king of a sad little hill

Dollhouse - Big time FBI guy who was secretly Japanese


Seeing that you mention BSG right below this I can't believe you omitted:

ROMO LAMPKIN - Brilliant lawyer hallucinating his dead cat

Doctor Who - He got off OK in that one


DeWayne Mann: Angel season 4's finale was all about setting up the rest of the show. Not a good sign for how well the preceding season went, right?


Yeah, but what a season it was. Connor may have been annoying as hell most of the time, but the show wouldn't have had nearly the impact without him. I'm especially thinking about the scene where Wesley smashes the thing and they all get their memories back.
 
2012-05-11 06:16:59 PM

fusillade762: Seeing that you mention BSG right below this I can't believe you omitted:

ROMO LAMPKIN - Brilliant lawyer hallucinating his dead cat

Doctor Who - He got off OK in that one


No, uh, we talked about Lampkin earlier.

And I don't watch Doctor Who, but good to know.

Oooh, wasn't he in an episode of one of the newer Star Treks? Voyager or Enterprise? Anyone know what happened to him in that?

fusillade762: I'm especially thinking about the scene where Wesley smashes the thing and they all get their memories back.


Which was season 5. Now, yes, it requires season 4 for it to make sense. I'm not saying to get rid of season 4. It's just, to me, not nearly as enjoyable as the others, either the first time through or on rewatch.
 
2012-05-11 06:19:15 PM

DeWayne Mann: fusillade762: Season 4 was the Jasmine stuff, right? I think I'm in the minority in liking that one. And that season begins Wesley's slide into badassery, iirc.

"I'll take away your bucket."

Guh, Jasime. Yes.

But trying to define the beginning of Wesley's slide into badassery is rather difficult to do.

And again, I'm not saying that all of season 4 was bad. Spin the Bottle is an outstanding episode, and there were a few other really good ones. But the over arching plot...no.

(Also, like Buffy Season 4, Angel season 4's finale was all about setting up the rest of the show. Not a good sign for how well the preceding season went, right?)




The beginning of Wesley's slide into badassery was when Fred rejected him for Gunn. It didn't really become obvious until he tried taking Connor away, but that's really when it started IMO.

Spin the bottle was an outstanding episode? It's better than the pile of crap that was most of season 4, but no. Especially since that's when Cordelia became possessed and the season really started to suck.

The whole Connor/Jasmine storyline was by far the worst thing in Buffy or Angel.
 
2012-05-11 06:19:51 PM

DeWayne Mann: Oooh, wasn't he in an episode of one of the newer Star Treks? Voyager or Enterprise? Anyone know what happened to him in that?


Ok, looked him up on Memory Alpha. He was on Voyager. Played a guy who tried to commit genocide on the Borg using his own son as a Biological Weapon. When it didn't work, he tried it again, so Voyager took the kid away and then were like "Well...bye" and did nothing at all to Mark Sheppard.

So other than losing his kid (essentially on purpose), nope, nothing bad.
 
2012-05-11 06:20:06 PM
Jim from Saint Paul : Just want an idea of where ya come from, that's all.

Yeah, it's fair.

Most of the TV that I watched in recent years was comedy. That might be largely because TV plotting is tough. Usually it's shared world stuff, and shared world stuff only has tight plotting if there's adamant editorial control, and TV schedules rarely allow for that, so you don't have a shot at it unless one person pretty much does all the writing, or the story outline is set in stone from the beginning. But with comedy, you naturally tend to have a lot more leeway. And I tend to prefer fairly absurdist comedy.

Films, though. I like the characters in Alien and Aliens, but it doesn't bother me that most of them die horribly. Story-appropriate. But killing them off at the beginning of Alien 3 is bullshiat.

If Tucker and Dale had been castrated and blinded in Tucker & Dale Vs Evil, that would have been wrong, but it's fine for them to get beat up. It's fine for Ash to lose his hand and get the crap kicked out of him constantly, but it would be wrong for him to be flayed alive and rolled in salt.

Whedon tends to open wounds purely for the sake of it, and then he injects salt to milk it. Angel is overall (overall) better than Buffy because it's got more Beowulf in it -- the characters suffer but are rarely so abused, and they rarely despair. Mostly they refuse to cry and give up. In Buffy, nobody really wins, not for long. It's too Thomas Hardy, not enough Laurel & Hardy.
 
2012-05-11 06:22:15 PM

DeWayne Mann: Wait, serious question, has anything bad every happened to Mark Sheppard in any show ever? The WORST I can come up with is the X-Files, where he had 6th degree burns...yet was healing at a rapid pace and was able to ask for a cigarette just a few days later.


Good call. I can't recall him ever getting offed on a TV series. But he might bite the big one as Crowley on Supernatural, and that would probably be a first.

If Crowley makes it through past the series finale, though, I'm gonna start asking questions :)
 
2012-05-11 06:22:56 PM

DeWayne Mann: Jim from Saint Paul: That's time allowing you to apologize away what one of the bottom 3 episodes of the series.

What apology? That episode sucks.

I'm just saying, if you were forced to watch it again, do so while assuming that Kal Penn drinks so much enchanted beer that it causes him to somehow lose the top half of his skull and then gain weird psychic powers.


...

No.
 
2012-05-11 06:26:34 PM
Whedon should open this property up to video game development. Collaborate with a studio and make a sci-fi western RPG; Mass Effect with browncoats, if you like. Bioware is good at creating fictional worlds and mostly-plausible backstories.

Though it would probably end with the ship being alive and having to choose between the brown or yellow ending.
 
2012-05-11 06:27:26 PM
DeWayne Mann: I think this is where our disconnect lies. Because, IMO, this sort of stuff goes along with the tone of everything Whedon does.

See, I think that's meaner than anything I've said about him.


Tell the truth: knowing that Firefly/Serenity had been cancelled, and knowing that Whedon likes to screw his characters over...after Wash died, how many MORE people did you expect to do the same? Because for me, I was pretty sure River would live and MAYBE one or two others. He knows his reputation.

And that doesn't seem douchey to you? Because it's pretty douchey of him.


I know you just sorta responded to this, but...what DO you watch? I can sort of forgive the first two, which are both fun little sci-fi shows. But not seeing The Wire?

I was way WAY done with Baltimore cop shows that use shaky camera well before The Wire started. I allow it might be a great show, but it's a lot of handicap to overcome. Most shaky cam is like pooping on a plate and expecting me to eat it and ask for more.

I usually hear bad things about Chuck. I've heard rave reviews of Fringe, but when people tell me why I should like it . . . it sounds awful. Some shows just don't do well in translation.

But I don't have cable, etc, and only watch stuff online, mostly through Netflix these days, and mostly movies.
 
2012-05-11 06:27:28 PM

DeWayne Mann: fusillade762: Seeing that you mention BSG right below this I can't believe you omitted:

ROMO LAMPKIN - Brilliant lawyer hallucinating his dead cat

Doctor Who - He got off OK in that one

No, uh, we talked about Lampkin earlier.


Oops, sorry, didn't know you'd mentioned Lampkin already.


And I don't watch Doctor Who, but good to know.

Fun fact: his father plays an older version of him in that one.
 
2012-05-11 06:27:35 PM

Creoena: The beginning of Wesley's slide into badassery was when Fred rejected him for Gunn. It didn't really become obvious until he tried taking Connor away, but that's really when it started IMO.


You could really argue it was even earlier than that. Somewhere around "Getting shot by a Zombie cop" and "leading a revolution in Pylea."

Like I said, it's hard to pin down.

Creoena: Spin the bottle was an outstanding episode?


It's an outstanding episode specifically because of things like Wesley's character arc. In fact, Whedon wrote it to show how far Wesley (and Cordelia) had really come since they were introduced on Buffy.

Besides, it has the "I had my throat cut and all my friends abandoned me" line. And how awesome is that?

Creoena: The whole Connor/Jasmine storyline was by far the worst thing in Buffy or Angel.


This I agree with.
 
2012-05-11 06:29:06 PM

DeWayne Mann: Emmitt died too, but I have trouble defining him as a protagonist.


Yes. That was my thoughts on the subject too. Rob Riggle's character died, and he was a lot closer to a protaganist than Emmitt.
 
2012-05-11 06:40:59 PM

jakomo002: But he might bite the big one as Crowley on Supernatural, and that would probably be a first.

If Crowley makes it through past the series finale, though, I'm gonna start asking questions :)


Supernatural was the one show that

A. I KNEW he was on
and
B. I had no idea what was going on with him over there.

But, seriously, he's apparently the anti-Sean Bean.

Jim from Saint Paul: ...

No.


I'm saying like, if you got forced into watching it Clockwork Orange style, that's the way to go.

serial arseonist: Whedon should open this property up to video game development.


From what I recall, there have been a couple of companies proposing MMOs based in the Verse, and Fox said no.

fusillade762: Fun fact: his father plays an older version of him in that one.


...does he at least die? That could be partial credit.

RandomAxe: See, I think that's meaner than anything I've said about him.


His pitch for Buffy was basically "High School is Hell." Basically everything on Buffy & Angel follows from that one line. I haven't boned up on my Dante for awhile, but I'm fairly sure Hell involves a lot of torture and stuff.

Firefly...you're talking about a group of people essentially fighting a somewhat totalitarian government, after they already lost a war to said government. No good will come of that.

Dollhouse is a somewhat different story, but it's worth noting that Whedon saw the show as being somewhat meta: the "dolls" are like Hollywood actors, being thrust into various roles.

RandomAxe: And that doesn't seem douchey to you? Because it's pretty douchey of him.


I kinda like douchey.

RandomAxe: I was way WAY done with Baltimore cop shows that use shaky camera well before The Wire started.


That's unfortunate. It's seriously a masterpiece.

RandomAxe: usually hear bad things about Chuck.


Chuck's not for everyone. It's way too easy to take it too serious. But if you're pretty good at suspension of disbelief, it's a fun show.

Think of it like a summer blockbuster popcorn movie, but in TV show style.

RandomAxe: I've heard rave reviews of Fringe, but when people tell me why I should like it . . . it sounds awful. Some shows just don't do well in translation.


This is true. It's a hard show to explain. And, again, it takes some major suspension of disbelief. I resisted watching it for the longest time, because nothing I heard sounded all that interesting to me. And then I watched the first season...and I was hooked.
 
2012-05-11 06:43:04 PM

DeWayne Mann: Neeek: That depends on how you define "protagonist".

/But yeah, it's pretty low.

Yeah, I know, I struggled on word choice. But here's who I came up with:

Chuck:
Stephen Bartowski
Bryce Larkin

Fringe:
Charlie (half a point)
Lincoln (half a point)
Bell...except he's alive again.

So 3 or 4 or 5 or I dunno.

K.B.O. Winston: The finale also helped make it feel like a real let-down of a season.

Man, the finale is the best part of 4.


Sorry, I don't mean the dream sequences. I mean the show-down episode. I thought the army made a great big bad for much of the season (with Adam as a nice diversion from the fact it was always gonig to be about the army).

/yes, beer bad
//almost every season has one I skip
 
2012-05-11 06:43:58 PM

Neeek: Rob Riggle's character died, and he was a lot closer to a protaganist than Emmitt.


Oh man I forgot about Rob Riggle all together.

And then we have the problem of Daniel Shaw, who turned from protagonist to antagonist, "died" like 2 or 3 times, yet still managed to survive the entire series.
 
2012-05-11 06:45:14 PM

K.B.O. Winston: Sorry, I don't mean the dream sequences. I mean the show-down episode. I thought the army made a great big bad for much of the season (with Adam as a nice diversion from the fact it was always gonig to be about the army).


Ok, then. As long as you're not saying Restless was bad. Because thems fightin' words.
 
2012-05-11 06:54:42 PM
DeWayne Mann: His pitch for Buffy was basically "High School is Hell." Basically everything on Buffy & Angel follows from that one line. I haven't boned up on my Dante for awhile, but I'm fairly sure Hell involves a lot of torture and stuff.

BUT, see, the whole point is that they put up with normal high school bullshiat AND having to fight demons, etc, without Mom finding out, etc. There's the exaggeration. Don't turn it into a Very Special After School Story, or at least don't do it over and over and over and over.

A story where heroes go through hell but find clever ways to succeed and refuse to give up and manage to win. That's a good story almost every time. A story where heroes go through hell, whine about it, fight with their friends, and die miserably. That's almost never a good story.


I kinda like douchey.

LOL. Well, fair enough.

I'm cool with suspension of disbelief, but for me it has to be earned. I want it to be earned. I'm rooting for it. But I may play a little hard to get. Whedon has way more than enough talent to get my panties down, but he has a strong tendency to take a dump on my couch ten minutes after I bring him home, just to be 'cute' and show me how carefree he is. And this does not impress me.
 
2012-05-11 07:05:46 PM

RandomAxe: A story where heroes go through hell but find clever ways to succeed and refuse to give up and manage to win. That's a good story almost every time. A story where heroes go through hell, whine about it, fight with their friends, and die miserably. That's almost never a good story.


This is sort of ridiculous to say in relation to a show about vampires, demons, superheroes, etc...

...but which is more realistic?

Again, if I want stories where the heroes can do no wrong, and good prevails in the end, and all of my favorite actors will live (at least until contract negotiations), I've got plenty of options, of which I've mentioned a few. But sometimes, well, that feels a little hollow. And when that happened, I've got Whedon's shows and Minear's shows and Game of Thrones, etc.

I think you're looking for something in between, and that's cool...but it basically means we're disagreeing over a matter of degrees.
 
2012-05-11 07:22:51 PM
Oh come on, why not get the old band back together:

i202.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-11 08:05:21 PM
Lee's_Austin:
He could on the other hand, create something new, but in the same universe.

I really like this idea. Now you have me thinking of all the little subplots that could be expanded into an actual show.


How about "where are all these supposed Chinese people"? Whole lotta stories there I reckon.
 
2012-05-11 08:20:12 PM

No Such Agency: Lee's_Austin:
He could on the other hand, create something new, but in the same universe.

I really like this idea. Now you have me thinking of all the little subplots that could be expanded into an actual show.

How about "where are all these supposed Chinese people"? Whole lotta stories there I reckon.


Official word is that the Chinese settlers, for the most part, kept themselves to a handful of planets, most importantly Sihnon (which is Inara's home planet). The only other named planet that seems to be Chinese is Jiangyin, though there weren't a lot of Chinese people there when we saw it in Safe. It is worth noting that 4 of the main characters have somewhat Chinese names: the Tams, Inara Serra and Kaywinnet Lee Frye, so the implication is probably that the two groups have mixed for the most part.
 
2012-05-11 08:23:43 PM

Lsherm: fark YOU SUBBY! IT COULD! IT COULD!

Whedon is going to have farkoff money now, maybe he'll use some of it to make a TV movie or something.

All of this reminds me I haven't yanked it to Summer Glau in a while.


Me either. Since at least this morning.
 
2012-05-11 08:46:40 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Haha, I love how they totally skipped over Adam Baldwin's role in Chuck.


Also, Summer Glau in Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. She also had a great cameo in Dollhouse.
 
2012-05-11 08:49:46 PM

cgraves67: Hold on. They are making another Percy Jackson movie? Why? The first one was terrible and raped Rick Riordan's book to pieces. Haha, yeah, I just admitted to reading a young adult series.


I'm on the second to last book in Michael Scott's The Secrets of The Immortal Nicholas Flamel series, it's pretty good.
 
2012-05-11 09:33:09 PM

DeWayne Mann: Creoena: The beginning of Wesley's slide into badassery was when Fred rejected him for Gunn. It didn't really become obvious until he tried taking Connor away, but that's really when it started IMO.

You could really argue it was even earlier than that. Somewhere around "Getting shot by a Zombie cop" and "leading a revolution in Pylea."


It wasn't either of those things. The zombie cop served just to increase the bond between Wesley and Gunn. It wasn't an overall badass thing. Pretty much anything involving Gunn's band of punks is strictly Gunn's storyline. I'll give you the revolution in Pylea, specifically leading those wannabe's to their death as a distraction. I don't think the Buffy version of Wesley would have been able to do that.

Creoena: Spin the bottle was an outstanding episode?

It's an outstanding episode specifically because of things like Wesley's character arc. In fact, Whedon wrote it to show how far Wesley (and Cordelia) had really come since they were introduced on Buffy.

Besides, it has the "I had my throat cut and all my friends abandoned me" line. And how awesome is that?


Those give it an above-average, but not outstanding, rating. It does provide a good 'this is where all of the characters started' feel, but if you're any fan of the shows you already know that and don't need a reminder. The most you learn is that Fred smoked weed as a teen. It does very little to advance anyone's storyline other than what happened to Cordy, and that doesn't make for an 'outstanding' episode.
 
2012-05-11 09:44:34 PM

Creoena: It wasn't either of those things. The zombie cop served just to increase the bond between Wesley and Gunn. It wasn't an overall badass thing. Pretty much anything involving Gunn's band of punks is strictly Gunn's storyline. I'll give you the revolution in Pylea, specifically leading those wannabe's to their death as a distraction. I don't think the Buffy version of Wesley would have been able to do that.


Well, I didn't specifically mean "getting shot == badass." But it certainly leads to a change in him. Look at, for instance, the next episode, where he stands up to yell at Angel, tearing his stitches. Is that a Buffy Season 3 type Wesley move?

The problem, of course, is the definition of "beginning." But his time running the company after Angel fires them certainly plays a big role.

Creoena: Those give it an above-average, but not outstanding, rating. It does provide a good 'this is where all of the characters started' feel, but if you're any fan of the shows you already know that and don't need a reminder. The most you learn is that Fred smoked weed as a teen. It does very little to advance anyone's storyline other than what happened to Cordy, and that doesn't make for an 'outstanding' episode.


In a season that I've already admitted I dislike the overarching storyline, "not advancing the storyline" isn't much of a problem. But it's probably the second funniest Angel episode, and it's a Whedon written/directed episode, which pretty much makes it great by default.
 
2012-05-11 11:47:29 PM
I got a Firefly tattoo about two hours ago. Hence the irritated pores.

i.imgur.com
Yep... Malcolm Reynolds crucified on a Serenity cross.

Firefly is dead! Long live Firefly!

/it's not coming back and that's okay
 
2012-05-12 12:12:33 AM
Jewel Staite...Yes Please!!
 
2012-05-12 12:42:08 AM

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: I got a Firefly tattoo about two hours ago. Hence the irritated pores.

[i.imgur.com image 424x860]
Yep... Malcolm Reynolds crucified on a Serenity cross.

Firefly is dead! Long live Firefly!

/it's not coming back and that's okay


Ok, you win.
 
d3
2012-05-12 12:55:05 AM

yeegrek: Oh come on, why not get the old band back together:

[i202.photobucket.com image 600x450]


I'll be in my bunk.

/Can't believe it took over 140 comments before that was said.
 
2012-05-12 02:02:37 AM

cgraves67: Hold on. They are making another Percy Jackson movie? Why? The first one was terrible and raped Rick Riordan's book to pieces. Haha, yeah, I just admitted to reading a young adult series.


8 words: Alexandra Daddario
 
2012-05-12 05:03:11 AM

Pants_Optional: Watched 4 episodes of Dollhouse, never went back.


We were horribly spoiled by the awesomeness of Firefly. But its fate meant that Dollhouse, while sci-fi neuropunk at its core, had to be wrapped up in flashiness and overt sex appeal just to hold Fox (and many Fox viewers) attention. It also had some truly bad episodes (i.e. the third one) and the second season ended in quite a rush (again thanks to Fox).

That said, the people who said to stick with it were right. The show has some interesting concepts, explores the implications of those concepts on deeper and deeper levels, and the Epitaphs really topped off the ending. If you except that the show had to be compromised to please Fox, focus on the sci-fi core, and you stick with it to the end, you'll enjoy the show.

Plus Fran Kranz and Alan Tudyk are outright awesome in this.
 
2012-05-12 09:15:19 AM

d3: yeegrek: Oh come on, why not get the old band back together:

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I'll be in my bunk.

/Can't believe it took over 140 comments before that was said.


That's ok I will be seeing him today. I'll let him know
 
2012-05-13 01:29:50 AM
fta: Sean Maher, her love interest Simon Tam in Firefly, just starred with Fillion in Whedon's next film, the modern-day adaptation of Much Ado About Nothing.

Cool beanz.

I will watch this.
 
2012-05-13 01:15:30 PM

quatchi: fta: Sean Maher, her love interest Simon Tam in Firefly, just starred with Fillion in Whedon's next film, the modern-day adaptation of Much Ado About Nothing.

Cool beanz.

I will watch this.


Check out the whole cast listing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Ado_About_Nothing_%282012_film%29

And "modern day adaptation" is a bit misleading. It is set in the modern day (specifically, in & around Whedon's house), but all the lines are the original Shakespeare.
 
2012-05-13 03:00:05 PM

DeWayne Mann: quatchi: fta: Sean Maher, her love interest Simon Tam in Firefly, just starred with Fillion in Whedon's next film, the modern-day adaptation of Much Ado About Nothing.

Cool beanz.

I will watch this.

Check out the whole cast listing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Ado_About_Nothing_%282012_film%29

And "modern day adaptation" is a bit misleading. It is set in the modern day (specifically, in & around Whedon's house), but all the lines are the original Shakespeare.


Related
 
2012-05-13 03:17:07 PM

Snapper Carr: DeWayne Mann: quatchi: fta: Sean Maher, her love interest Simon Tam in Firefly, just starred with Fillion in Whedon's next film, the modern-day adaptation of Much Ado About Nothing.

Cool beanz.

I will watch this.

Check out the whole cast listing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Ado_About_Nothing_%282012_film%29

And "modern day adaptation" is a bit misleading. It is set in the modern day (specifically, in & around Whedon's house), but all the lines are the original Shakespeare.

Related


I kinda want to see some of the other plays mentioned in that. Like the post-apocalyptic Hamlet.
 
2012-05-14 12:35:40 AM

DeWayne Mann: Check out the whole cast listing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Ado_About_Nothing_%282012_film%29

And "modern day adaptation" is a bit misleading. It is set in the modern day (specifically, in & around Whedon's house), but all the lines are the original Shakespeare.


Ooh, Fillion is playing Dogberry not Benedict. That's cool. Amy Acker's Beatrice should be good.

Snapper Carr: Related


Lawls. Took me a sec. I think an all female Julius Caesar would be interesting if done right.
 
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