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(Think Progress)   From the "did he really just say that?" files, Catholic League head Bill Donohue says that he wants the law to "discriminate against all alternative lifestyles", just like Jesus would (w/video)   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 163
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2012-05-11 01:45:19 PM

CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: LrdPhoenix: Vodka Zombie: Being Catholic is an alternative lifestyle in America, buddy.

Well, actually, they are the single largest religion in the US. Something like 25% of people in the US are Catholic with ~70,000,000 followers. Of course, they're in the minority if you take all the Protestant denominations as a whole, which is about 50% of the US population.

also the single largest Christian denomination worldwide. Roughly 1,000,000,000 of the world's 2,000,000,000 Christians are Catholics

The protestant on catholic hate is weird in this country. When I was dating my (now) wife who's evangelical, she told me a lot of evangelicals don't think Catholics are "real" Christians.

Catholics

I was like WTF? They invented Christianity. You are my rock and upon my rock blah blah blah Matthew 16:18

fark them dirty prods. Why can't their heretical asses be more tolerant like we are?

/married a dirty prod
//dunked the boy in the RC church
///free excellent HS ftw!

What HS?

Regis. Of course he's not even a year old but I'd like for him to apply to he topshelf magnet public schools but if that doesn't work out, I'd be content with Regis as a backup plan

Oh weird. Did you go there? I knew I liked you :)

nah I went to Chaminade HS on Long Island, alma mater to the founder of Newsmax and the Leatherman from the Village People

Well train your son well. Its a great school. Look how smart it made me :)

hehe you went to Regis? Few of my friends from college went there

Ya. What year? I was '02


ah, you're a wee babe. I was '93. Guys I know from Regis were '93 and '94
 
2012-05-11 01:47:09 PM
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Claims to represent Catholics but is in fact a one man freak show.
 
2012-05-11 01:51:36 PM

kingoomieiii: Car_Ramrod: I want the law to discriminate against straight people who live together - I used to call it "shacking up," but now it's called cohabitation.

What the fark?

He's an old, angry, dumb bastard. Nothing to see here.

Oh, no, wait, he has the ear of a huge group of voters in this country. Something to see here.


I'm not sure who really. I'm Catholic and I never heard of this guy until Fox Started using him as a go-to source whenever they wanted someone to be outraged by something. As These things go, the Ocnferen ce of Catholic bishops is a lot more influential than he is to most Catholic voters and I'd even rate them "not very"
 
2012-05-11 01:51:41 PM
I say this as a Catholic:

Bill Donohue, please shut the FARK up and stop embarassing the rest of us Catholics with your Middle Ages bullshiat!

You make me ashamed to be a Catholic.
 
2012-05-11 01:53:33 PM
I'm sure he's been very outspoken on the current abuse trial.

Link

No?
Fark that guy. I'm hoping there's a lake of fire waiting for most of the damn Catholic clergy.
Frikkin' pederasts.
 
2012-05-11 01:54:13 PM

Maud Dib: I'm sure he's been very outspoken on the current abuse trial.

Link

No?
Fark that guy. I'm hoping there's a lake of fire waiting for most of the damn Catholic clergy.
Frikkin' pederasts.


he is very outspoken... defending the pedophiles
 
2012-05-11 02:02:14 PM
media.tumblr.com

We need to start posting this everywhere.
 
2012-05-11 02:03:53 PM
This is the guy Delta Airlines takes marching orders from.
 
2012-05-11 02:10:39 PM

Red Shirt Blues: I wish someone would pay me 300k a year to sit there and spout bullshiat.


I once watched a Larry King show with Donahue and Sinead O'Connor. It was an epic of screaming. Mostly by Donahue - she was surprisingly restrained, considering.
 
2012-05-11 02:12:00 PM

Huggermugger: Red Shirt Blues: I wish someone would pay me 300k a year to sit there and spout bullshiat.

I once watched a Larry King show with Donahue and Sinead O'Connor. It was an epic of screaming. Mostly by Donahue - she was surprisingly restrained, considering.


heh poor Sinead. What NOT to do if you suddenly find yourself the wildly successful darling of Irish Catholic America
 
2012-05-11 02:12:06 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: James!: Not that I give a shiat about religious people, but the Catholic League isn't the Catholic Church. The Catholic League is Bill Donohue, nothing more.

Well, Bill Donohue, a mailing list, a fax machine, and nothing more.


That and multiple media outlets that actually think this guy deserves airtime.
 
2012-05-11 02:13:01 PM

Tad_Waxpole: We need to start posting this everywhere.


But especially in areas in swing states with large evangelical populations.
 
2012-05-11 02:15:53 PM
I know this will come across as creepy to many people, but I was kind of annoyed by Griffin's reaction to Donohue's question about brother/sister marriage. He said "I don't support that, and I don't think any American's would support that." Why?

Personally, I think incest is disgusting, but my personal feelings are not reason enough for the government to interfere in the bedroom/contracts of consenting adults.

Genetic problems with offspring are a risk, but carriers of genes prone to produce rare genetic disorders aren't prohibited from having sex or getting married. For instance, 1 in 4 children of parents that are both Tay-Sachs carriers will get the disease and almost certainly be dead by the age of 4. These parents are allowed to marry and reproduce. Besides, even infertile siblings are forbidden to marry.

I'm in no way, shape, or form equating homosexuality (which is completely fine and normal) with incest (which is disgusting). I just like logical consistency.
 
2012-05-11 02:19:04 PM

alowishus: I know this will come across as creepy to many people, but I was kind of annoyed by Griffin's reaction to Donohue's question about brother/sister marriage. He said "I don't support that, and I don't think any American's would support that." Why?

Personally, I think incest is disgusting, but my personal feelings are not reason enough for the government to interfere in the bedroom/contracts of consenting adults.

Genetic problems with offspring are a risk, but carriers of genes prone to produce rare genetic disorders aren't prohibited from having sex or getting married. For instance, 1 in 4 children of parents that are both Tay-Sachs carriers will get the disease and almost certainly be dead by the age of 4. These parents are allowed to marry and reproduce. Besides, even infertile siblings are forbidden to marry.

I'm in no way, shape, or form equating homosexuality (which is completely fine and normal) with incest (which is disgusting). I just like logical consistency.


I think the issue is the increased risk of abnormalities in the offspring of closely related people but since that cannot be assumed as part of a marriage, sister-wives should be allowed.
 
2012-05-11 02:22:51 PM
I think Bill is confusing his "Gold Standard" with his penchant for Golden Showers from his favorite Rent Boy.

But hey, if he wants the law to discriminate, I think we need to discriminate against religious groups also. Let's not let Catholics get married because Catholics have been responsible for many hundreds of thousands of deaths over the centuries, all in the name of their religion. Sounds like bad parenting to me, I'm sure this nice man will agree.
 
2012-05-11 02:25:25 PM
Let's get something clear. You do not "discriminate against". Dis-crimination is to find someone free of criminality; the opposite of In-crimination.

The real issue is that people are more and more offended by any scrutiny, because idiots find fault even where there is none.
 
2012-05-11 02:32:54 PM

Tad_Waxpole: [media.tumblr.com image 500x647]

We need to start posting this everywhere.


Get Obama to make a statement condemning anyone staying home to pray instead of exercising their civic duty, and it is full proof. I'd save this strategy for 2016 though because this one is in the bag.
 
2012-05-11 02:37:39 PM
It looks like his dissertation studies at NYU were on the ACLU, specifically their internal organization. He may want to talk to someone who studied the sociology of marriage, child-rearing, etc.
 
2012-05-11 02:42:22 PM
one man, one woman marriage for life IS NOT the only model for humans throughout time. And one man, one woman plus biological children living in a separate house from the rest of the family is far from standard.

My Grandma was a good Catholic and stayed married to her abusive, alcoholic husband. Even after they separated and didn't talk to each other for years, they were still technically married. Thank you Catholic Church for ensuring Grandma's life didn't really start until her 50's when she completely uprooted herself and got the hell away from him.
 
2012-05-11 02:45:22 PM

Car_Ramrod: I want the law to discriminate against straight people who live together - I used to call it "shacking up," but now it's called cohabitation.

What the fark?


May as well go Full Bigot.
 
2012-05-11 02:45:39 PM

quatchi: Anyone ever considered that another reason for the RCC being so against homosexuality is because a lot of their priests are folks who chose to become closeted gay priests who were heroes to their respective Catholic families rather than outcasts scorned for being who they were?

Seriously, normalizing gay folks into society at large cuts into their available staff.

Atheist/Recovering Catholic who thinks about this stuff.


Yes, I think about that too. If you've met Catholic priests, a lot of them trigger the Gaydar but play the game that they're just celibate happy guys. I think a lot of them are getting laid on the downlow. It's just ridiculous.

Come on Catholic Church - open up the priesthood to the people who really should be priests, straight or gay, man or woman.

/child of fallen Catholics.
 
2012-05-11 02:46:08 PM

alowishus: I know this will come across as creepy to many people, but I was kind of annoyed by Griffin's reaction to Donohue's question about brother/sister marriage. He said "I don't support that, and I don't think any American's would support that." Why?

Personally, I think incest is disgusting, but my personal feelings are not reason enough for the government to interfere in the bedroom/contracts of consenting adults.

Genetic problems with offspring are a risk, but carriers of genes prone to produce rare genetic disorders aren't prohibited from having sex or getting married. For instance, 1 in 4 children of parents that are both Tay-Sachs carriers will get the disease and almost certainly be dead by the age of 4. These parents are allowed to marry and reproduce. Besides, even infertile siblings are forbidden to marry.

I'm in no way, shape, or form equating homosexuality (which is completely fine and normal) with incest (which is disgusting). I just like logical consistency.


Some people have posited that there is a developmental thing towards the incest taboo. That when you grow up with someone in your nuclear family, the natural incest taboo kicks in and makes thoughts of sex with them disgusting to you.

Apparently there have been reports (unverified, take with a grain of salt) of fraternal twins meeting up as adults after being separated at birth. Without the developmental incest taboo, some experience strong, disturbing, feelings of attraction to each other (they are often alike in many ways).

Not that it has anything to do with the discussion at hand.

I think intra-sibling incest isn't a problem you have to worry about, there are no throngs of them demanding marriage equality. Probably because we all already agree it is disgusting, innately or culturally. Other forms of incest are simply pedophile child rape, and should be dealt with appropriately. If there is the one in a billion couple who are brother and sister and demand to be married...really who gives a fark. Everyone will know they're crazy freaks and we can just get on with our lives.
 
2012-05-11 02:48:56 PM
The sky is blue, water is wet, and christians are bigots. Same as it ever was.
 
2012-05-11 02:51:42 PM
Isn't what Donohue said consistent with the Pope's view on the issue of same-sex marriage?
 
2012-05-11 02:57:13 PM

skullkrusher: alowishus: I know this will come across as creepy to many people, but I was kind of annoyed by Griffin's reaction to Donohue's question about brother/sister marriage. He said "I don't support that, and I don't think any American's would support that." Why?

Personally, I think incest is disgusting, but my personal feelings are not reason enough for the government to interfere in the bedroom/contracts of consenting adults.

Genetic problems with offspring are a risk, but carriers of genes prone to produce rare genetic disorders aren't prohibited from having sex or getting married. For instance, 1 in 4 children of parents that are both Tay-Sachs carriers will get the disease and almost certainly be dead by the age of 4. These parents are allowed to marry and reproduce. Besides, even infertile siblings are forbidden to marry.

I'm in no way, shape, or form equating homosexuality (which is completely fine and normal) with incest (which is disgusting). I just like logical consistency.

I think the issue is the increased risk of abnormalities in the offspring of closely related people but since that cannot be assumed as part of a marriage, sister-wives should be allowed.


Agrees:

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2012-05-11 02:58:22 PM

AverageJoe77: Lord_Baull: AdolfOliverPanties: I hope he chokes on a priest's dick.


That's like saying I hope Michael Jordan scores a basket.

/did I just date myself?

I'm sure the Catholic League would frown on dating yourself



"Dating" myself as I type this...
 
2012-05-11 03:02:52 PM

Johnny Swank: The sky is blue, water is wet, and christians are bigots. Same as it ever was.


apparently so is Johnny Swank
 
2012-05-11 03:04:21 PM
As a former Catholic Seminarian who witnessed too much hypocrisy and survived a ton of institutional abuse let me just say this.

Fark you Bill Donohue, the "Catholic League" and all religious zealots trying to legislate morality.
 
2012-05-11 03:07:02 PM

SkinnyHead: Isn't what Donohue said consistent with the Pope's view on the issue of same-sex marriage?



Since we're on the topic, let's you and I discuss the Pope's view on torture and evolution.
 
2012-05-11 03:11:52 PM
I want to promote and to put in a privileged position that institution of marriage between a man and a woman, which has been shown over and over to be the gold standard.

Oh hear we go with the ole __________is not a right it's a privilege BS.
He's applying that worn out mantra to suit his Missionary perspective.
Bah, those are the ones the end up having monstrous deeds in their closet.

He probably thinks it's his duty to physically confirm the chastity of brides to be.
 
2012-05-11 03:17:09 PM

SkinnyHead: Isn't what Donohue said consistent with the Pope's view on the issue of same-sex marriage?


No actually, the Pope's view is that only Catholic marriages are real marriages anyways and divorce is not possible. Government marriage licenses are pretty much meaningless in terms of God's law. You might as well ask the Church what their position is on Fark posting rules.
 
2012-05-11 03:19:27 PM

sweetmelissa31: Oh, it's very simple. It's absolutely very simple. I have a doctorate in sociology from NYU

It's very simple to get a doctorate from NYU, apparently.


Not only that, but his claims on what "the literature says" are provably false. The American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association disagree with him.
 
2012-05-11 03:22:43 PM

PanicMan: AverageJoe77: Lord_Baull: AdolfOliverPanties: I hope he chokes on a priest's dick.


That's like saying I hope Michael Jordan scores a basket.

/did I just date myself?

I'm sure the Catholic League would frown on dating yourself

What happens when you try and date yourself, and you turn yourself down?!?


You become Bill Donohue. I hear he wears pants in his bath to as to not look down on the unemployed...
 
2012-05-11 03:22:45 PM

acefox1: As a former Catholic Seminarian who witnessed too much hypocrisy and survived a ton of institutional abuse let me just say this.

Fark you Bill Donohue, the "Catholic League" and all religious zealots trying to legislate morality.


I hate to defend the Catholic Church but:

A) Bill Donohue represents the Catholic Church in say way represent Fark just because I have TFER account

B) the Catholic Church follows Gods laws regardless of any civil convention observed by any Government

C) the Catholic Church does not recognized most same-sex marriages either
 
2012-05-11 03:23:30 PM

The Why Not Guy: Well, Bill Donohue, a mailing list, a fax machine, and nothing more.

No. The Catholic League has 200,000+ paid members at $20 a year, and assets of over $20 million. They also share office space with the archdiocese of New York City. Bill is well connected within the Catholic Church. Don't underestimate him.


i'll gladly under-estimate that frothing, repressed mama's boy
i've NEVER heard anything rational or sensible come out of his holy-host-hole, not once
Kathy Griffin skewered him a few years ago...Link - shiate video, funny content (Donohump @ 7:00)
 
2012-05-11 03:31:11 PM

mrshowrules: SkinnyHead: Isn't what Donohue said consistent with the Pope's view on the issue of same-sex marriage?

No actually, the Pope's view is that only Catholic marriages are real marriages anyways and divorce is not possible. Government marriage licenses are pretty much meaningless in terms of God's law. You might as well ask the Church what their position is on Fark posting rules.


The Pope believes it is immoral for a Catholic lawmaker to vote for a law that gives legal recognition to same-sex unions.
 
2012-05-11 03:39:37 PM

Karac: Dr Dreidel: CPennypacker: The protestant on catholic hate is weird in this country. When I was dating my (now) wife who's evangelical, she told me a lot of evangelicals don't think Catholics are "real" Christians.

And to this Jew, Jesus = Christianity.

Eastern/Greek/Russian Orthodox, Mormon, Catholic, Protestant, Coptic...if, at the end of the day, Jesus (aka "Christ") figures in as a major player in your religious observances (or the faith in general, you're a "Christian".

Mormons - they believe that Jesus was a son of God, not the son of God; they also believe that you get to be your own God in Heaven.
Catholics - idolatrous heathens who pray to the Virgin Mary.
Copts - from Egypt and are therefore clearly Muslims trying to infiltrate the true faith.
Jehovah's Witnesses - they deny the divinity of Christ.
Baptists - they allow dancing, which is clearly a plot by the devil to entice our youth into sin.


So you're arguing over exactly how awesome Mr J is and why. BFD, you're still Christians. I get that there are divisions and denominations. As skullkrusher put it: to your larger point, yeah, if you believe that Jesus was Son of God and Savior to humanity, you're a Christian.
 
2012-05-11 03:40:38 PM

SkinnyHead: mrshowrules: SkinnyHead: Isn't what Donohue said consistent with the Pope's view on the issue of same-sex marriage?

No actually, the Pope's view is that only Catholic marriages are real marriages anyways and divorce is not possible. Government marriage licenses are pretty much meaningless in terms of God's law. You might as well ask the Church what their position is on Fark posting rules.

The Pope believes it is immoral for a Catholic lawmaker to vote for a law that gives legal recognition to same-sex unions.


Citation please?
 
2012-05-11 03:41:19 PM

SkinnyHead: mrshowrules: SkinnyHead: Isn't what Donohue said consistent with the Pope's view on the issue of same-sex marriage?

No actually, the Pope's view is that only Catholic marriages are real marriages anyways and divorce is not possible. Government marriage licenses are pretty much meaningless in terms of God's law. You might as well ask the Church what their position is on Fark posting rules.

The Pope believes it is immoral for a Catholic lawmaker to vote for a law that gives legal recognition to same-sex unions.


thanks skinny-dick
the pope also thinks it is wise to wear these in public
www.traditioninaction.org
to protect kid-rapists like this old tool
blogs.ocweekly.com
and to simultaneously judge & condemn consenting adults who just want to be treated with the respect that they deserve

/the catholic dynasty is coming apart like most of your arguments
 
2012-05-11 03:50:04 PM

mrshowrules: SkinnyHead: mrshowrules: SkinnyHead: Isn't what Donohue said consistent with the Pope's view on the issue of same-sex marriage?

No actually, the Pope's view is that only Catholic marriages are real marriages anyways and divorce is not possible. Government marriage licenses are pretty much meaningless in terms of God's law. You might as well ask the Church what their position is on Fark posting rules.

The Pope believes it is immoral for a Catholic lawmaker to vote for a law that gives legal recognition to same-sex unions.

Citation please?


"When legislation in favour of the recognition of homosexual unions is proposed for the first time in a legislative assembly, the Catholic law-maker has a moral duty to express his opposition clearly and publicly and to vote against it. To vote in favour of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral." ~ Joseph Card. Ratzinger
 
2012-05-11 04:03:51 PM
Man on boy rape is still cool though?
 
2012-05-11 04:10:40 PM

SkinnyHead: mrshowrules: SkinnyHead: mrshowrules: SkinnyHead: Isn't what Donohue said consistent with the Pope's view on the issue of same-sex marriage?

No actually, the Pope's view is that only Catholic marriages are real marriages anyways and divorce is not possible. Government marriage licenses are pretty much meaningless in terms of God's law. You might as well ask the Church what their position is on Fark posting rules.

The Pope believes it is immoral for a Catholic lawmaker to vote for a law that gives legal recognition to same-sex unions.

Citation please?

"When legislation in favour of the recognition of homosexual unions is proposed for the first time in a legislative assembly, the Catholic law-maker has a moral duty to express his opposition clearly and publicly and to vote against it. To vote in favour of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral." ~ Joseph Card. Ratzinger


Technically, they could vote against a law banning it. It wasn't a law in support of gay marriage. It was a law banning it. Looks like some wiggle room there even if you are Catholic.
 
2012-05-11 04:12:24 PM

quatchi: Anyone ever considered that another reason for the RCC being so against homosexuality is because a lot of their priests are folks who chose to become closeted gay priests who were heroes to their respective Catholic families rather than outcasts scorned for being who they were?

Seriously, normalizing gay folks into society at large cuts into their available staff.

Atheist/Recovering Catholic who thinks about this stuff.


Weren't the Catholics one of the first churches to at least say being a homosexual isn't a sin, only if you have sex out of wedlock? Baby steps they will probably be okay with gay marriage in what 400 years.

/Galileo Galilei waited 350 but he was boning any dudes that we know of.
 
2012-05-11 04:16:56 PM

Karac: Dr Dreidel: CPennypacker: The protestant on catholic hate is weird in this country. When I was dating my (now) wife who's evangelical, she told me a lot of evangelicals don't think Catholics are "real" Christians.

And to this Jew, Jesus = Christianity.

Eastern/Greek/Russian Orthodox, Mormon, Catholic, Protestant, Coptic...if, at the end of the day, Jesus (aka "Christ") figures in as a major player in your religious observances (or the faith in general, you're a "Christian".

Mormons - they believe that Jesus was a son of God, not the son of God; they also believe that you get to be your own God in Heaven.
Catholics - idolatrous heathens who pray to the Virgin Mary.
Copts - from Egypt and are therefore clearly Muslims trying to infiltrate the true faith.
Jehovah's Witnesses - they deny the divinity of Christ.
Baptists - they allow dancing, which is clearly a plot by the devil to entice our youth into sin.


Don't forget the biggie for Mormons the Devil and Jesus are brothers. From the other Christian Sects point of view that is.
 
2012-05-11 04:23:06 PM

SkinnyHead: "When legislation in favour of the recognition of homosexual unions is proposed for the first time in a legislative assembly, the Catholic law-maker has a moral duty to express his opposition clearly and publicly and to vote against it. To vote in favour of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral." ~ Joseph Card. Ratzinger


To be fair, they also thought it was harmful to the common good when the media started to report on all the cases of buttfarking kids by priests.

So even as a Catholic I don't think they have any room to talk anymore.
 
2012-05-11 04:23:14 PM

skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: CPennypacker: skullkrusher: LrdPhoenix: Vodka Zombie: Being Catholic is an alternative lifestyle in America, buddy.

Well, actually, they are the single largest religion in the US. Something like 25% of people in the US are Catholic with ~70,000,000 followers. Of course, they're in the minority if you take all the Protestant denominations as a whole, which is about 50% of the US population.

also the single largest Christian denomination worldwide. Roughly 1,000,000,000 of the world's 2,000,000,000 Christians are Catholics

The protestant on catholic hate is weird in this country. When I was dating my (now) wife who's evangelical, she told me a lot of evangelicals don't think Catholics are "real" Christians.

Catholics

I was like WTF? They invented Christianity. You are my rock and upon my rock blah blah blah Matthew 16:18

fark them dirty prods. Why can't their heretical asses be more tolerant like we are?

/married a dirty prod
//dunked the boy in the RC church
///free excellent HS ftw!

What HS?

Regis. Of course he's not even a year old but I'd like for him to apply to he topshelf magnet public schools but if that doesn't work out, I'd be content with Regis as a backup plan

Oh weird. Did you go there? I knew I liked you :)

nah I went to Chaminade HS on Long Island, alma mater to the founder of Newsmax and the Leatherman from the Village People


I went to Chaminade University in Honolulu. I guess they are a Catholic School (Marinist), but they never made a big thing about it. One religion class was required, but I learned more about Buddhism and Islam than I learned about Catholicism. I had to look up Marinist on wikipedia, because they never covered it.
 
2012-05-11 04:26:21 PM

alowishus: I know this will come across as creepy to many people, but I was kind of annoyed by Griffin's reaction to Donohue's question about brother/sister marriage. He said "I don't support that, and I don't think any American's would support that." Why?

Personally, I think incest is disgusting, but my personal feelings are not reason enough for the government to interfere in the bedroom/contracts of consenting adults.

Genetic problems with offspring are a risk, but carriers of genes prone to produce rare genetic disorders aren't prohibited from having sex or getting married. For instance, 1 in 4 children of parents that are both Tay-Sachs carriers will get the disease and almost certainly be dead by the age of 4. These parents are allowed to marry and reproduce. Besides, even infertile siblings are forbidden to marry.

I'm in no way, shape, or form equating homosexuality (which is completely fine and normal) with incest (which is disgusting). I just like logical consistency.


Sarah & Abraham were brother and sister or half sibilings. Abraham the father of the Jews, whe the Abrahamic in Abrahamic religions comes from. Married the Lord I guess had no problem with this.
Lot had sex with and kids by two of his daughters. Lot was the only rightoues man in Sodom.
Incest it is okay if you are Righetous enough maybe Homosexuality is only okay for the righteous as well, like priests.
 
2012-05-11 04:26:48 PM

kevinfra: I went to Chaminade University in Honolulu. I guess they are a Catholic School (Marinist), but they never made a big thing about it. One religion class was required, but I learned more about Buddhism and Islam than I learned about Catholicism. I had to look up Marinist on wikipedia, because they never covered it.


haha at our college fair at school Chaminade University got everyone's interest. Honolulu is a bit nicer than Mineola during the school year
 
2012-05-11 04:36:20 PM
I actually enjoyed going there. I was a part time student (military) and they really went out of their way to accomodate us. It's a small campus in a pretty nice area. Generally small class sizes too - I had a class with only four students.
 
2012-05-11 04:37:57 PM

JerseyTim: Great job by Delta giving in to this guy.


I actually mailed my SkyMiles card back to them yesterday. They suck on overseas filghts anyway, so it's not really a loss on my part. Asked them to donate remaining miles to Planned Parenthood.
 
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