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(Fox News)   Bill O'Reilly on same-sex marriage: "I agree with President Obama" (with poll that makes just as much sense)   (foxnews.com) divider line 155
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2012-05-11 01:05:23 PM

sprawl15: Yeah, but what does "I don't know" mean?


My grandson just set up my innernat and I like clicking buttons.
 
2012-05-11 01:06:42 PM

thurstonxhowell: sprawl15: Yeah, but what does "I don't know" mean?

My grandson just set up my innernat and I like clicking buttons.


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2012-05-11 01:09:23 PM
Both side are good so vote Republican.
 
2012-05-11 01:09:41 PM

make me some tea: Derp.

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Splunge.
 
2012-05-11 01:10:30 PM
Which sport do you prefer, baseball or football?

[ ]Oatmeal
[ ]Violin
 
2012-05-11 01:11:17 PM
"...largely because of the press, it's now just about impossible to have an honest debate about gay marriage. "

Bill O'Reilly said this. A man who works for the press and specializes in distributing talking points. Who's next segment involves calling celebrities who donate to Obama "pinheads". Is worried that the press is clouding the debate.

Well f*ck me.
 
2012-05-11 01:12:04 PM
I don't care if two men or two women want to marry each other. On one hand I do think it should be left to the states to decide if they want to perform such marriages, I also think that if two men get married in New York, Texas should be forced to recognize that, even if Texas did not allow two men to get married.
 
2012-05-11 01:12:48 PM
Fox News' coverage of this whole thing has not gone as I would expect. What are they planning?
 
2012-05-11 01:13:14 PM

adamgreeney: So the man who told us that gay marriage would lead to wide spread polygamy and turtle marriage is recanting? Or is he pretending he never said any of that stuff before?


Wait, wut? O'Reilly is a blowhard - but he is a blowhard that has supported gay adoption and civil unions for years. He is not taking a new position here.

/he's even blasted ex-gays.
 
2012-05-11 01:14:13 PM
Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.

Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!

/there is derp on both sides
 
2012-05-11 01:16:41 PM
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2012-05-11 01:16:49 PM

Grables'Daughter: make me some tea: FlashHarry: make me some tea: Derp.

[i.imgur.com image 342x265]

seriously?

That's a screencap from the page. Check it out.

Yep. It's a real poll, and it really is still there on the Fox News page.


Best part is that it's titled "the no spin poll"
 
2012-05-11 01:17:08 PM

kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.

Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!

/there is derp on both sides


So people opposed to interracial marriage back when weren't racists?
 
2012-05-11 01:20:01 PM

Pincy: kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.

Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!

/there is derp on both sides

So people opposed to interracial marriage back when weren't racists?


Well of course they are NOW. Back then they were just traditionalists trying valiantly to preserve the laws that made America great. Just like when in 30 years gay marriage is legal everywhere people will look back and wonder what those bigots problem was.
 
2012-05-11 01:20:24 PM

kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'everythings' are debated:

Person A: Stuff that makes sense to me.

Person B: Stuff that doesn't make sense to you!


ftfy
 
2012-05-11 01:21:07 PM
The poll is ridiculous, of course, but the question is legit.

The GOP are banking on America being a country with more bigots than decent people.

The Dems are banking on the opposite.

Yes, it's really that simple.

I'm Canadian, don't get a vote, ostensibly don't have a dawg in the hunt and yet I reeeeallllly hope you all collectively do not fark this up.

Like a lot.
 
2012-05-11 01:23:36 PM

kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.

Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!

/there is derp on both sides


i568.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-11 01:25:16 PM

kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.

Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!

/there is derp on both sides


It's totally unfair to call someone a homophobe just because they express a fear of gays.
 
2012-05-11 01:26:53 PM
Wait, I read the article and O'Reilly said
"Well, that's not true. Once again Mr. Stelter writes a falsehood in order to demonize me and Fox News."


Seriously?!!??! Pot, Kettle.
 
2012-05-11 01:27:21 PM

Carth: Well of course they are NOW. Back then they were just traditionalists trying valiantly to preserve the laws that made America great. Just like when in 30 years gay marriage is legal everywhere people will look back and wonder what those bigots problem was.


And when that day comes, the Republicans will claim that Dick Cheney was the champions of gay rights and claim that the Democrats were the real homophobes because of DADT.
 
2012-05-11 01:28:49 PM
Um Bill, you might want to hire a proofreader. Just sayin'
 
2012-05-11 01:29:03 PM

odinsposse: kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.

Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!

/there is derp on both sides

It's totally unfair to call someone a homophobe just because they express a fear of gays.


Being repulsed by something is not a fear. If I don't like being around people who smoke, I'm not afraid of people who smoke. If seeing someone eat worms disgusts me, I'm not afraid of worms or people who eat them.
 
2012-05-11 01:29:49 PM
"PINHEADS & PATRIOTS."

Holy shiat! Tip of the Hat, Wag of the Finger is real!?
 
2012-05-11 01:30:40 PM

quatchi: The poll is ridiculous, of course, but the question is legit.


It's absolutely a legit question. In my opinion, the only way Obama loses in November is if he does something so egregious to the right that he galvanizes republican voting people who are unenthusiastic about Mittens and might skip voting.

I don't think this is that issue, but if I was Obama, I would try to be as bland and inoffensive as humanly possible.

By the way, has anyone else noticed O'Reilly seems more and more moderate these days?
 
2012-05-11 01:33:17 PM
Still it should be a states rights issue. If the voters in a state want gay marriage, by all means allow it in your state....and the adoption issue would go right along with it.
Down the road, when the majority of states sanction it - it will no longer be an issue.
 
2012-05-11 01:33:47 PM

Magnanimous_J: By the way, has anyone else noticed O'Reilly seems more and more moderate these days?


It's all relative. He's merely been outderped.
 
2012-05-11 01:33:59 PM
Oh Bill, I don't have to accuse you of bigotry for opposing same-sex marriage! I am still accusing you of bigotry for your show that claimed hundreds of gangs of lesbians are running around America committing crimes with pink guns and raping and recruiting children into the gay lifestyle, like thousands of homosexual Joseph Konys. 150 gangs of lesbian outlaws in D.C. alone, according to your show!

Wheeler, a Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Police Department officer-turned-paid Fox News commentator, launched right in: "Well, you know, there is this national underground network, if you will, Bill, of women that's lesbians and also some men groups that's actually recruiting kids as young as 10 years old in a lot of the schools in the communities all across the country," he reported. "And they actually carry a number of weapons. And they commit a number of crimes."

Wheeler asserted that "we've actually counted, just in the Washington, D.C., area alone, that's Washington D.C., Maryland, and Virginia, well over 150 of these crews. ... And they - like I said, they recruit these kids to be members of these gangs."

O'Reilly asked, "Now, when they recruit the kids, are they indoctrinating them into homosexuality?"

"Yes," Wheeler answered. "As a matter of fact, some of the kids have actually reported that they were forced into, you know, performing sex acts and doing sex acts with some of these people."

Flabbergasted by the sheer depravity of it all, O'Reilly nevertheless forged ahead. "I never thought of this," said the host of the "no-spin zone." "It makes sense that, if you had lawless gay people, they would do this kind of thing. You associate homosexuality more with a social movement, not a criminal movement. But you're saying this is all over the country, detective?"


That aired in 2007. Not 1957. 2007! O'Reilly has not ever issued a correction for this entirely fictional and defamatory account, although he did weaksaucely bleat that perhaps the case had been "overstated" after the SPLC destroyed the program, with facts.
 
2012-05-11 01:35:41 PM

kukukupo: odinsposse: kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.

Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!

/there is derp on both sides

It's totally unfair to call someone a homophobe just because they express a fear of gays.

Being repulsed by something is not a fear. If I don't like being around people who smoke, I'm not afraid of people who smoke. If seeing someone eat worms disgusts me, I'm not afraid of worms or people who eat them.


Irrational anxiety is pretty much what a phobia is. If you don't like smokers you wrinkle your nose at the smell. If you freak the fark out if you see someone smoking that's a phobia. So too if you don't like watching guys kiss you look away. If you become physically ill it's because there's something wrong with you.
 
2012-05-11 01:36:32 PM
The democrats have been masterful at throwing the 'social issues' back at the republicans this year.
 
2012-05-11 01:38:55 PM
To people who advocate making this a state's rights issue (including you Mr Obama). Do you think miscegenation should also be a state's right issue? What makes these issues different?
 
2012-05-11 01:40:23 PM
Q: "Will the sun rise or not rise tomorrow?"

1: Yes
2: No
3: Don't know
 
2012-05-11 01:41:20 PM

MisterLoki: kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.

Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!

/there is derp on both sides

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2012-05-11 01:43:15 PM

kukukupo: Being repulsed by something is not a fear. If I don't like being around people who smoke, I'm not afraid of people who smoke. If seeing someone eat worms disgusts me, I'm not afraid of worms or people who eat them.


What if you were grossed out by two guys kissing, but you voted to let them get married?
 
2012-05-11 01:45:02 PM

Dear Jerk: The democrats have been masterful at throwing the 'social issues' back at the republicans this year.


It was simple, really. They just counted the votes and realized that independents had become much more socially liberal. They then decided that if independents didn't care, they should just do whatever makes their base happy.

Bonus: this has the effect of tethering Romney to his own extremist base and steers independents away from him.
 
2012-05-11 01:45:03 PM

TheNewJesus: There are two sides.

You either support civil rights, or you are a bigot.


Funny NAMBLA says the same thing.

\Do support gay rights including marriage.
\\dont support NAMBLA
\\\having a different opinion =/= bigot.
 
2012-05-11 01:46:08 PM

kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.
Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!
/there is derp on both sides


Try replacing the word "gay" with the word "blacks" or "jews". Then tell me you don't deserve to be called a bigot.
 
2012-05-11 01:46:13 PM

kukukupo: odinsposse: kukukupo: Let me sum up how 'gay rights' are debated:

Person A: Seeing two gay people makes my balls shrivel up inside me and it is gross.

Person B: BIGOT! HOMOPHOBE!

/there is derp on both sides

It's totally unfair to call someone a homophobe just because they express a fear of gays.

Being repulsed by something is not a fear. If I don't like being around people who smoke, I'm not afraid of people who smoke. If seeing someone eat worms disgusts me, I'm not afraid of worms or people who eat them.


Well sure, not liking smoke doesn't mean your afraid of smokers. But not liking it also doesn't mean that you think that smokers shouldn't be allowed to smoker's shouldn't be allowed to marry other smokers.
 
2012-05-11 01:46:15 PM

karnal: Still it should be a states rights issue. If the voters in a state want gay marriage slavery, by all means allow it in your state....and the adoption issue would go right along with it.
Down the road, when the majority of states sanction it - it will no longer be an issue.


Civil rights are never a state issue.
 
2012-05-11 01:46:52 PM
Carth


To people who advocate making this a state's rights issue (including you Mr Obama). Do you think miscegenation should also be a state's right issue? What makes these issues different?



That is a very good question. But isn't it apples and oranges - race vs gender...?



One day I would like to marry my cat.....don't look at me like I am all weird or something....she is a female cat.
 
2012-05-11 01:49:23 PM
Therefore, individual states should decide the question. On that, I agree with President Obama.

Oh, please Bill, do explain how this works...

Roger and Tom live and get married in a state that recognizes their marriage legally, say Massachusetts, they are on a trip to visit Roger's parents in North Carolina, and get in a horrible accident in that state. Tom is laid up in a hospital in NC, with a "family only" order on the visitation, due to the severity of his injuries. By Massachusetts law, Roger would be able to visit him in the hospital, but by NC law, he won't. Now if you're going to claim that NC has to recognize a legal marriage from another state, than it's idiotic to even support states banning it because their residents will just travel out of state to get married.

It either has to be across the board, or nothing, this state-by-state bullshiat will NEVER work, and it will just cause more bureaucratic bullshiat, and more big-government.
 
2012-05-11 01:49:48 PM

Mavent: Try replacing the word "gay" with the word "blacks" or "jews". Then tell me you don't deserve to be called a bigot.


Alternatively, try replacing other words...

Seeing two gay people makes my blacks shrivel up inside me and it is jews.
 
2012-05-11 01:50:18 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: karnal: Still it should be a states rights issue. If the voters in a state want gay marriage slavery, by all means allow it in your state....and the adoption issue would go right along with it.
Down the road, when the majority of states sanction it - it will no longer be an issue.

Civil rights are never a state issue.


well, if you're a Paultard, civil rights are state issues. unless it involves abortion of course!
 
2012-05-11 01:50:31 PM

Grables'Daughter: make me some tea: FlashHarry: make me some tea: Derp.

[i.imgur.com image 342x265]

seriously?

That's a screencap from the page. Check it out.

Yep. It's a real poll, and it really is still there on the Fox News page.


What's the issue? The question is will his stance help or hurt him, yes/no? It's a simple question of consequences, either his stance will have an effect on his chances or it won't. But don't let that stop your liberal Fox bashing.
 
2012-05-11 01:50:55 PM

karnal: Carth


To people who advocate making this a state's rights issue (including you Mr Obama). Do you think miscegenation should also be a state's right issue? What makes these issues different?


That is a very good question. But isn't it apples and oranges - race vs gender...?



No, it isn't. Regardless of race or gender, they're still human beings, and deserving of the same rights as any other humans.
 
2012-05-11 01:53:23 PM

karnal: Still it should be a states rights issue. If the voters in a state want gay marriage, by all means allow it in your state....and the adoption issue would go right along with it.
Down the road, when the majority of states sanction it - it will no longer be an issue.


You'd be suprised at the state and local governments who would still have white's only drinking fountains if civil rights weren't imposed at a federal level. As a citation, I give you the Darlington County School District in South Carolina. The two high schools in Darlington were re-desegrated over the summer of my freshman year by way of closing the black school - in 1996.

Why should civil rights be decided on a state level? Do two gay men living in South Carolina love each other less than two gay men living in New York? Does the love the gay men from South Carolina feel fore each other magically increase on the weekend they go to NY to get married, and then just as magically lessen when they fly back home?
 
2012-05-11 01:53:24 PM

QU!RK1019: Mavent: Try replacing the word "gay" with the word "blacks" or "jews". Then tell me you don't deserve to be called a bigot.

Alternatively, try replacing other words...

Seeing two gay people makes my blacks shrivel up inside me and it is jews.


love this.
 
2012-05-11 01:54:20 PM

orclover: RINO.

It has been a long long decade, and I never thought Bill O'Reilly would one day be one of the more slightly reasonable republican pundits. But here we are. I'm sure he'll derp it up in the next article.


I don't know about that... There have been a few times in the past year or two, where I thought he was being somewhat reasonable, and open minded on some issues.
 
2012-05-11 01:55:01 PM
Is Obama a U.S. citizen or not?

[ ] Kenya
[ ] Hawaii
[ ] Whe?
 
2012-05-11 01:55:51 PM

QU!RK1019: Mavent: Try replacing the word "gay" with the word "blacks" or "jews". Then tell me you don't deserve to be called a bigot.

Alternatively, try replacing other words...

Seeing two gay people makes my blacks shrivel up inside me and it is jews.



Seeing two black people makes my jews shrivel up inside me and it is gay.

Yep, that sounds quite bigoted as well.
 
2012-05-11 01:56:36 PM

you are a puppet: Is Obama a U.S. citizen or not?

[ ] Kenya
[ ] Hawaii
[ ] Whe?


Oddly enough, that one makes perfect sense.
 
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