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(CNN)   Sorry, New York, but it looks like you're not going to have the nation's largest phallic symbol, after all. Hey, it's not the size that really matters, anyway   (cnn.com) divider line 70
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2012-05-11 08:25:25 AM
"It's still the tallest building to me dammit!"
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-11 08:27:27 AM
Subby sees penises everywhere.
 
2012-05-11 08:41:33 AM
Watch they'll keep claiming its 1,776 feet high anyway.

Like how 6 inches is "a foot."
 
2012-05-11 08:45:18 AM
Look, it's very cold up that high, you have to expect a certain amount of shrinkage!
 
2012-05-11 09:05:48 AM
FTFA: Barowitz explained that to replace broken or missing panels, a free climber would have to scale the spire, attach a cable to the top, somehow lower it within the 9/11 memorial, and then attach a 2,000 pound, 40-feet-long piece of fiberglass to the cable and hoist it to the top of the building.

Is there any reason that they wouldn't use helicopters and such? Why not make the whole spire removable, so that it can periodically be lifted down for maintenance? Seems to me that if you can get it up there, you can get it down.
 
2012-05-11 09:06:41 AM
Well, it IS kinda cheating when 408 of the 1,776 feet are basically a stick with a ball on the end.
 
2012-05-11 10:01:08 AM
Trying to get the tallest building designation is a fool's errand. There are way too many BS rules about what does and doesn't count and it's all controversial. The building is 1,776 ft to the top--that's all that matters. They're all dwarfed by a radio tower in North Dakota anyway so who the fark cares.
 
2012-05-11 10:28:05 AM
The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, an independent organization that certifies the official height of skyscrapers and acknowledges record setting buildings,

Building nerds.
 
2012-05-11 10:34:02 AM
Fail at pizza. Fail at Hot dogs. Fail at Sky scrapers. Can that shiat-hole state do anything right?
 
2012-05-11 10:36:02 AM
Skyscrapers kind of have to be phallus shaped.
If it was vulvic it would be a football stadium.
 
2012-05-11 10:36:27 AM

unyon: FTFA: Barowitz explained that to replace broken or missing panels, a free climber would have to scale the spire, attach a cable to the top, somehow lower it within the 9/11 memorial, and then attach a 2,000 pound, 40-feet-long piece of fiberglass to the cable and hoist it to the top of the building.

Is there any reason that they wouldn't use helicopters and such? Why not make the whole spire removable, so that it can periodically be lifted down for maintenance? Seems to me that if you can get it up there, you can get it down.


They likely would use a helicopter to give it up there. You'd still need free climbers to go up there and set the safety lines and then guys to climb up and guide the piece in. The piece itself would be dangling off the belly of a helicopter. The entire thing would be a pain in the ass and the winds up there make it even more of a pain. Basically not cost or time effective.
 
2012-05-11 10:37:44 AM
Subby I'm pretty sure the state of Florida is the nation's largest phallic symbol.
t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-05-11 10:37:45 AM

Lumpmoose: Trying to get the tallest building designation is a fool's errand. There are way too many BS rules about what does and doesn't count and it's all controversial. The building is 1,776 ft to the top--that's all that matters. They're all dwarfed by a radio tower in North Dakota anyway so who the fark cares.



This is much taller
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-05-11 10:38:14 AM
It's New York, of course they had to circumcise it.
 
2012-05-11 10:40:26 AM
Isn't the 1776 kind of silly? I'm sure when the building is done that it's more likely to be 1773 or 1779 anyway.

Phallic symbol thread?

www.detroitfunk.com
 
2012-05-11 10:43:28 AM

Mr. Eugenides: It's New York, of course they had to circumcise it.


Oy vey.
 
2012-05-11 10:45:03 AM

unyon: FTFA: Barowitz explained that to replace broken or missing panels, a free climber would have to scale the spire, attach a cable to the top, somehow lower it within the 9/11 memorial, and then attach a 2,000 pound, 40-feet-long piece of fiberglass to the cable and hoist it to the top of the building.

Is there any reason that they wouldn't use helicopters and such? Why not make the whole spire removable, so that it can periodically be lifted down for maintenance? Seems to me that if you can get it up there, you can get it down.


If the entire needle is 400 feet, then it's at least 20,000 pounds for one set of panels... and that's not counting the fact that the panels don't circle the needle, but are on just one side. Multiply that by, what... three? Four? Five? Plus, don't forget the internal steel to hold the thing together.
The CH-54 has a maximum payload of 20,000 pounds, and the CH-47 has a maximum load of 28,000 pounds.

In short, you're not moving that in one piece except once, downward, like its predecessor.
 
2012-05-11 10:45:42 AM
upload.wikimedia.org Liberty Memorial, Kansas City. Not the biggest, but definitely phallic in nature.
 
2012-05-11 10:46:05 AM
It's already got a 408' needle, so why not put an asterisk after "America's Tallest Building", and re-name it the "Barry Bonds Tower"?
 
2012-05-11 10:50:12 AM

abhorrent1: Fail at pizza. Fail at Hot dogs. Fail at Sky scrapers. Can that shiat-hole state do anything right?



Women can be topless (not sure if that's just in NYC, or the state)



Nudist
 
2012-05-11 10:50:48 AM
Canada should try and outdo the U.S. by erecting a building that's 1,867 feet
 
2012-05-11 10:53:29 AM
I got to tell you, if your ding dong looks like this:

www.lensimpressions.net

get your ass to a Doctor.
 
2012-05-11 10:53:34 AM
TIL there is The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, an independent organization that certifies the official height of skyscrapers
 
2012-05-11 10:56:06 AM

ImRonBurgundy: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x181] Liberty Memorial, Kansas City. Not the biggest, but definitely phallic in nature.


I can't see that, and not see it destroyed in 'The Day After'.
 
2012-05-11 10:57:09 AM

abhorrent1: Fail at pizza. Fail at Hot dogs. Fail at Sky scrapers. Can that shiat-hole state do anything right?


Pastrami.
 
2012-05-11 10:57:17 AM
I find the knee-jerk "tall skinny thing = phallus glorification" meme really annoying. Give it a rest; buildings and rockets are shaped that way for a reason and that freudean stuff was laid to rest decades ago.

On the other hand, if we could make rockets in the shape of boobs you can bet NASA would get a lot more funding.
 
2012-05-11 10:59:13 AM

offacue: TIL there is The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, an independent organization that certifies the official height of skyscrapers


TIL what TIL meant.


Thank God Google -- eh, same thing.
 
2012-05-11 10:59:19 AM
Why did they figure that out now? Those Arabs using US/Euro based engineering would have found a way.
 
2012-05-11 11:00:15 AM
A free climber on the outside? They can't fit a couple of ladders inside, some hatches on the top, and several cable anchors on the top? Up the ladder, open a hatch, fasten the cables, and do what you need to do.

For that matter, it shouldn't be hard to engineer a tuck-away crane that can handle a few tons. That might also be handy if new antenna tech requires radome modifications (I'm sure there will be plenty of antennae inside that radome).

Include a way to winch the crane inside the radome, in case the crane breaks, and it would be possible to repair or replace the crane (there should be enough room at the base of the radome to even do welding, so removal or assembly of a new crane is possible).
 
2012-05-11 11:00:42 AM
That's like putting a top hat on the tip of my dick and calling it 11 inches instead of the 9 it is.
 
2012-05-11 11:02:14 AM

bim1154: That's like putting a top hat on the tip of my dick and calling it 11 inches instead of the 9 it is.


Turn the ruler over - you're looking at the metric side.
 
2012-05-11 11:02:29 AM

halfof33: I got to tell you, if your ding dong looks like this:

[www.lensimpressions.net image 626x1100]

get your ass to a Doctor.


Darth Vadar's ding dong?
 
2012-05-11 11:04:06 AM

The water was cold: bim1154: That's like putting a top hat on the tip of my dick and calling it 11 inches instead of the 9 it is.

Turn the ruler over - you're looking at the metric side.


And the water is deep too.
 
2012-05-11 11:05:09 AM

bim1154: The water was cold: bim1154: That's like putting a top hat on the tip of my dick and calling it 11 inches instead of the 9 it is.

Turn the ruler over - you're looking at the metric side.

And the water is deep too.


:)
 
2012-05-11 11:08:15 AM

halfof33: I got to tell you, if your ding dong looks like this:

[www.lensimpressions.net image 626x1100]

get your ass to a Doctor.


8-bit wang!
 
2012-05-11 11:08:52 AM

Mr. Eugenides: It's New York, of course they had to circumcise it.



They don't circumcise in London.
www.venues-of-distinction.com
 
2012-05-11 11:10:43 AM
I find it amusing that the CNN article doesn't mention the current tallest building in the US, the Willis (aka Sears) Tower in Chicago. Which has been the tallest since the 1970's and at one time was the tallest in the world. The second tallest building in the US is also in Chicago, the Trump Tower.

For whatever reason, Chicago is a good town for really tall buildings. I gotta agree with a previous submitter, though: at 2717 feet, Burj Khalifa in Dubai is tall enough that no one else really needs to brag about their tall buildings anywhere else.
 
2012-05-11 11:14:46 AM

Smoky Dragon Dish: Mr. Eugenides: It's New York, of course they had to circumcise it.


They don't circumcise in London.
[www.venues-of-distinction.com image 563x659]


A few weeks ago, I got three DVDs from the library (don't remember the titles). All three had multiple scenes in that building. I started to freak out a little. Had I traveled into "The Twilight Zone"? I had never seen it before I got those movies.
 
2012-05-11 11:15:23 AM

unyon: FTFA: Barowitz explained that to replace broken or missing panels, a free climber would have to scale the spire, attach a cable to the top, somehow lower it within the 9/11 memorial, and then attach a 2,000 pound, 40-feet-long piece of fiberglass to the cable and hoist it to the top of the building.

Is there any reason that they wouldn't use helicopters and such? Why not make the whole spire removable, so that it can periodically be lifted down for maintenance? Seems to me that if you can get it up there, you can get it down.


Yes. Construction union members in NYC aren't only corrupt. They're stupid, too.
 
2012-05-11 11:18:57 AM
And btw, NY DOES have the nation's largest phallic symbol. In fact there are several, all of massive proportions. See: current NY governor (although he's much better than his unholy father), comptroller, NYS Thruway authority (in its entirety), for starters.
 
2012-05-11 11:20:42 AM

FSTFKL: For whatever reason, Chicago is a good town for really tall buildings


...which is kinda funny, seeing as how it's the "Windy City" and all.
 
2012-05-11 11:22:55 AM

abhorrent1: Fail at pizza. Fail at Hot dogs. Fail at Sky scrapers. Can that shiat-hole state do anything right?


Yes! NY is exceptionally brilliant at taxing exerything, wasting those monies on welfare recipients who think all of life should be a paid vacation, among other horrible ways to spend its budgets. NY is #1 at that.
 
2012-05-11 11:25:31 AM
img27.imageshack.us

Would like to have a word with you, New York
 
2012-05-11 11:36:56 AM
"The only reason it's coming out of the design is because it's hard to maintain," Jordan Barowitz, spokesperson for the developer Durst Organization Inc., said of the radome. He referred to its maintenance as "stuff out of Mission Impossible."

You'd think they would have realized this by now. I mean, it's not like the planning phase for this building was rushed overnight.
 
2012-05-11 11:59:31 AM
Dammit Obama!

It's all Obama's fault somehow right?
 
2012-05-11 12:11:08 PM
TFA was obviously written by a bored intern with a hangover. The spire was to be "enclosed" in a dome? Then you'd only see a really big dome with a hidden tower in it, a giant Kinderegg surprise in the sky.

And nowhere does it mention fiberglass cladding. Only "fiberglass." Then "the cladding," which may or may not be fiberglass. Later "a 2000 lb piece of fiberglass" comes out of nowhere, like it's part of the rigging or something.
 
2012-05-11 12:14:29 PM
What a cock up!
 
2012-05-11 12:20:50 PM
i'm in new york, and i don't know, have you looked...

in. my. pants.

?

/i may not be grasping symbolism or the term "largest" as well as my phallus
 
2012-05-11 12:21:52 PM

neversubmit: What a cock up!


hey! that's my line!
 
2012-05-11 12:31:27 PM

Theaetetus: unyon: FTFA: Barowitz explained that to replace broken or missing panels, a free climber would have to scale the spire, attach a cable to the top, somehow lower it within the 9/11 memorial, and then attach a 2,000 pound, 40-feet-long piece of fiberglass to the cable and hoist it to the top of the building.

Is there any reason that they wouldn't use helicopters and such? Why not make the whole spire removable, so that it can periodically be lifted down for maintenance? Seems to me that if you can get it up there, you can get it down.

If the entire needle is 400 feet, then it's at least 20,000 pounds for one set of panels... and that's not counting the fact that the panels don't circle the needle, but are on just one side. Multiply that by, what... three? Four? Five? Plus, don't forget the internal steel to hold the thing together.
The CH-54 has a maximum payload of 20,000 pounds, and the CH-47 has a maximum load of 28,000 pounds.

In short, you're not moving that in one piece except once, downward, like its predecessor.


Fair enough. So assume a single panel- Why would that panel need to 'somehow be hoisted to the top of the building'? You've just laid out that a chinook could handle the load easily. I don't pretend to understand the construction of this spire, so it doesn't make complete sense to me what the challenges are- but it seems to me, if we can figure out how to launch a rocket, dock with a satellite travelling 17000 mph, and fit it with corrective lenses it was never designed to have, then we should probably be able to solve this engineering puzzle.
 
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