CalvinMorallis: LandOfChocolate: CalvinMorallis: Really? Cougartown I can take or leave, but Parks&Recs, from the get-go, never struck me as anything more than an Office clone.

If your exposure to P&R is any part of season 1, I would agree with you. The series changed a lot in season 2 and has been awesome ever since.

Watch the first 6 episodes of Season 2 and I bet you'll enjoy it.

Actually, that was my biggest exposure to it. I've watched an episode here or there the past couple years, but the first season I watched the first half-a-dozen episodes and just thought, meh. So yeah, maybe I should try again

That's pretty much the same reaction everyone had with P&R. I can't recall anyone claiming to like the first season, and if Greg Daniels didn't have any The Office cred behind him it probably wouldn't have made it to season 2. But he did, and NBC is a fairly patient network (they gave Joey two full seasons, for christ's sake), so they got a second season and it was a vast improvement.

I would definitely give a couple of episodes from season 2 a shot.

Neondistraction: (they gave Joey two full seasons, for christ's sake)



holy shiat, I could've sworn this was canceled midway through the first season. I was about to call shenanigans on your post until i decided to do a quick search.

LandOfChocolate: CalvinMorallis: Really? Cougartown I can take or leave, but Parks&Recs, from the get-go, never struck me as anything more than an Office clone.

If your exposure to P&R is any part of season 1, I would agree with you. The series changed a lot in season 2 and has been awesome ever since.

Watch the first 6 episodes of Season 2 and I bet you'll enjoy it.

Well Jerry was adopted!

I was adopted?

/love that episode

mongbiohazard: ajt167: gingerjet: pkellmey: The only character I can find humor in Parks is the manager. The rest of the characters are just irritating like fingernails on a chalkboard. However, I started watching Community and not liking it, but it go better either because it grew on me or the writing improved - I really can't tell which.

The writing has improved. But other parts haven't. Britta is just plain annoying - in the first season she was somewhat intelligent and witty - then they decided to make her an idiot. And the off screen Chevy Chase drama is starting to bleed into the show.

Oh man, really? I thought Britta got much better. She wasn't very funny in the first season, nor was she meant to be. She was the stereotypical super liberal college know-it-all, which was much more annoying than funny. After the first season, they caricaturized her character a bit and much improved it. My opinion, anyway.


Jeff: "You seemed a lot smarter when I met you."

=)

I know it goes against the greater nerd protocol, but I don't like Community and I actually don't mind Big Bang Theory. I think it comes down to this: Community doesn't have very likable characters, while BBT does.

/I love Parks and Rec though, does that make up for it.

Tatsuma:

The story is a re-imagination of famous 'Count of Monte Cristo'

To Hulu!

ajt167: I thought Britta got much better. She wasn't very funny in the first season, nor was she meant to be. She was the stereotypical super liberal college know-it-all, which was much more annoying than funny. After the first season, they caricaturized her character a bit and much improved it.

FeedTheCollapse: I actually think Britta's been the most improved on Community.

I... I... don't know what to say. That's the exact opposite to what I feel about Britta's character. The main problem is that she's no longer the female leading character on the show and thus has a lot less screentime to flesh out her personality. Instead, she's been reduced to quick quips and stupid comments that play on the "stupid liberal hippie" stereotype.

I could sympathize and relate with the old Britta, but can't with the new one.

Tatsuma: As they are celebrating the engagement, Daniel is killed on the beach.

I never realized that "killed" meant "very much alive, and some other guy was shot."

/enjoyed the show up until it had a long midseason break; now I can't get back into it and the last 4 episodes are just sitting there on my DVR unwatched.

Neondistraction:

That's pretty much the same reaction everyone had with P&R. I can't recall anyone claiming to like the first season, and if Greg Daniels didn't have any The Office cred behind him it probably wouldn't have made it to season 2. But he did, and NBC is a fairly patient network (they gave Joey two full seasons, for christ's sake), so they got a second season and it was a vast improvement.

I *liked* Joey...

I can't express the joy I feel knowing Community's coming back for another season. It's turned into my all time favorite show, which means it's probably going to get cancelled after its 13 episode order.

Sorry about that everyone...

/also much love for Parks and Rec. Great show, don't let the Office clone feel fool you.

FeedTheCollapse: Neondistraction: (they gave Joey two full seasons, for christ's sake)



holy shiat, I could've sworn this was canceled midway through the first season. I was about to call shenanigans on your post until i decided to do a quick search.

I know, I was just as surprised the first time I learned that little tidbit.

Seth'n'Spectrum: ajt167: I thought Britta got much better. She wasn't very funny in the first season, nor was she meant to be. She was the stereotypical super liberal college know-it-all, which was much more annoying than funny. After the first season, they caricaturized her character a bit and much improved it.

FeedTheCollapse: I actually think Britta's been the most improved on Community.

I... I... don't know what to say. That's the exact opposite to what I feel about Britta's character. The main problem is that she's no longer the female leading character on the show and thus has a lot less screentime to flesh out her personality. Instead, she's been reduced to quick quips and stupid comments that play on the "stupid liberal hippie" stereotype.

I could sympathize and relate with the old Britta, but can't with the new one.

Your opinion is wrong! Oops, sorry. I forgot this isn't the Politics tab.
Anyway, I think they tried to inject some more humor into her character (to me, they succeeded, to you maybe not) instead of having her as more of the straight (wo)man. I can personally relate to the character because she's basically how I used to be. Back when I was actually like that, I thought of myself as more similar to season 1 Britta.

Seth'n'Spectrum: I... I... don't know what to say. That's the exact opposite to what I feel about Britta's character. The main problem is that she's no longer the female leading character on the show and thus has a lot less screentime to flesh out her personality. Instead, she's been reduced to quick quips and stupid comments that play on the "stupid liberal hippie" stereotype.



I'll agree that they probably could flesh out her character a bit more, but Britta's always been the stereotypical Liberal College Hippie. I think her character is more improved in that I think she's actually funny instead of her being the setup to other jokes, generally at the sake of her Liberal College Hippie-ism.

Regardless of all the talk about Britta, I think we can all agree that Chang hasn't been worth watching since he stopped being a teacher? I think I would have been much happier if they had simply treated him as another teacher that's there for a semester and then maybe shows up sparingly in later episodes. Making him part of the regular cast was a mistake.

I'm thrilled Community got picked up for one more season and hope it gets a full season order. After that, I think it will be time for it to go out on top, though.

NeoCortex42: I think we can all agree that Chang hasn't been worth watching since he stopped being a teacher?

THIS

No Annie or Britta pictures? I am disappoint...

NeoCortex42: I think we can all agree that Chang hasn't been worth watching since he stopped being a teacher

Yup. He's awful now.

Terlis: No Annie or Britta pictures? I am disappoint...

How about just a pic of Annie's Boobs?

Time Traveling Bunnies: Tatsuma: Annoying block of text with picture of pretty lady

Dude, why do you keep doing this? Your posts make me more inclined to not watch and ABC Online which is a shiatty video player.
the show, call ABC, and request they cancel it immediately.

Even if I did want to watch the show, it's only available on Hulu Plus which is a rip-off
In Community related news: who else really enjoyed mini-clip show last night?

Better than last years.

For a few minutes I thought they were going to actually "go there". Now THAT would have been a great way to end the series.

odinsposse: Seth'n'Spectrum: ajt167: I thought Britta got much better. She wasn't very funny in the first season, nor was she meant to be. She was the stereotypical super liberal college know-it-all, which was much more annoying than funny. After the first season, they caricaturized her character a bit and much improved it.

FeedTheCollapse: I actually think Britta's been the most improved on Community.

I... I... don't know what to say. That's the exact opposite to what I feel about Britta's character. The main problem is that she's no longer the female leading character on the show and thus has a lot less screentime to flesh out her personality. Instead, she's been reduced to quick quips and stupid comments that play on the "stupid liberal hippie" stereotype.

I could sympathize and relate with the old Britta, but can't with the new one.

I can sort of understand her being relatable even though I didn't much like her. Most importantly did you think she was funny early on? The biggest problem I had with her was that all of the romance stuff with her and Jeff was not nearly as funny as the rest of the show.

Britta's transformation is emblematic of why I stopped watching the show. Community started off with a guiding narrative and was interested in having an ensemble of characters. Now the characters are joke dispensers and their personalities conform to the theme of the week, and whatever reason Winger was going to community college for has become irrelevant. The first few episodes of this season basically told us what we already knew: these were terrible people nobody at Greendale actually likes to be around. Then it dropped that whole premise and it's been whatever pop culture references the writers feel like making the characters contort into referencing this week.

And yes, yes I know up-thread I just said I like BBT, and yes it's formulaic and the laugh track is annoying, but I also said the reason I like it is because I like the characters. They've largely remained who they were in essence from the first season, but have made gradual progressions as well. They don't have the anime episode, then the western episode, and then the alternative universe episode that gets brought up and then dropped the next week. There are lots of science and pop culture references, but it's part of the banter and it doesn't rule the entire plot of the episode.

Anyway I'm just waiting to get flamed now because I know the Fark consensus on Community vs Big Bang Theory.

odinsposse: I can sort of understand her being relatable even though I didn't much like her. Most importantly did you think she was funny early on? The biggest problem I had with her was that all of the romance stuff with her and Jeff was not nearly as funny as the rest of the show.

FeedTheCollapse: I think her character is more improved in that I think she's actually funny instead of her being the setup to other jokes

ajt167: Anyway, I think they tried to inject some more humor into her character (to me, they succeeded, to you maybe not) instead of having her as more of the straight (wo)man.

See, I think they traded humor for likability. She's definitely more funny now, but she used to be someone I would feel bad for, someone who was cool and likable and "outside" of the Greendale crazy. Now she's just a massive joke who gets funny self-deprecating one-liners.

In season 1, she still got some good funny parts, though.

/the instagram joke in the L&O episode was hilarious though

CalvinMorallis: Really? Cougartown I can take or leave, but Parks&Recs, from the get-go, never struck me as anything more than an Office clone.

I'd like Parks and Rec a lot more if virtually every storyline wasn't so saccharin-sweet in its conclusion. I think it's a stronger show than The Office as we speak.

Seth'n'Spectrum:

/the instagram joke in the L&O episode was hilarious though

I must have missed that one. Help a brother out.

NASAM: I must have missed that one. Help a brother out.

Where Britta is the image tech and is showing Troy and Abed a shot from the lab. Instead of showing them something fancy she can do with the computer to "enhance" the image, she just uses some sort of sepia filter to make it look old-timey.

Wait, that's not really an instagram joke, is it... oh well.

Killer Cars: CalvinMorallis: Really? Cougartown I can take or leave, but Parks&Recs, from the get-go, never struck me as anything more than an Office clone.

I'd like Parks and Rec a lot more if virtually every storyline wasn't so saccharin-sweet in its conclusion. I think it's a stronger show than The Office as we speak.

The Shakeweight^tm commercial is a stronger show than The Office.

verbaltoxin: The first few episodes of this season basically told us what we already knew: these were terrible people nobody at Greendale actually likes to be around. Then it dropped that whole premise and it's been whatever pop culture references the writers feel like making the characters contort into referencing this week.

I do agree that the show definitely has too many gimmick episodes that exist solely so the characters can play the role of [TV show/movie]; it's why I can't really get enthusiastic over the Law and Order episode or the Ken Burns Civil war episode, etc. It's not humor, it's just making a pop culture reference in place of an actual joke. The best gimmick episodes are the ones where it expands the plot and/or characters (i.e. last night's episode or "Virtual Systems Analysis"), otherwise the gimmick episodes feel like masturbation and the show comes off as not nearly as smart as it thinks it is.


I do hope the show starts integrating long-running story archs better. They tend to either not give them the support they need or they tend to be kind of stupid (i.e. pretty much anything involving Chang. Good lord how far in quality that character has fallen...)

Colour_out_of_Space: The Shakeweighttm commercial is a stronger show than The Office.

as pointless as The Office is now, I can't believe I'm the only one who prefers it to where the show was for the 3 previous seasons? Granted, that's faint praise and I don't really like Erin or Andy at all, but I don't really find it as thoroughly obnoxious as when Michael Scott was moping around and generally just acting like a retard. It is about time to cancel the show, though.

Seth'n'Spectrum: NASAM: I must have missed that one. Help a brother out.

Where Britta is the image tech and is showing Troy and Abed a shot from the lab. Instead of showing them something fancy she can do with the computer to "enhance" the image, she just uses some sort of sepia filter to make it look old-timey.

Wait, that's not really an instagram joke, is it... oh well.

Grassy ass.

HOT
Hot Hot Hot

FeedTheCollapse: Colour_out_of_Space: The Shakeweighttm commercial is a stronger show than The Office.

as pointless as The Office is now, I can't believe I'm the only one who prefers it to where the show was for the 3 previous seasons? Granted, that's faint praise and I don't really like Erin or Andy at all, but I don't really find it as thoroughly obnoxious as when Michael Scott was moping around and generally just acting like a retard. It is about time to cancel the show, though.

Yes to all of that. This season has been MUCH better than the last few. James Spader is friggin awesome.

Time Traveling Bunnies: Tatsuma: Annoying block of text with picture of pretty lady

Dude, why do you keep doing this? Your posts make me more inclined to not watch the show, call ABC, and request they cancel it immediately.

Even if I did want to watch the show, it's only available on Hulu Plus which is a rip-off and ABC Online which is a shiatty video player.

In Community related news: who else really enjoyed mini-clip show last night?

Have to agree with you.

The hard sell is farking stupid. You're not on an infomorcial where the fake set ups have fake enthusiasm from a paid audience. You like the show, fine. Give it a few sentences.

Don't write the farking Torah about a shiatty sitcom.

Jerseysteve22: Time Traveling Bunnies: Tatsuma: Annoying block of text with picture of pretty lady

Dude, why do you keep doing this? Your posts make me more inclined to not watch and ABC Online which is a shiatty video player.
the show, call ABC, and request they cancel it immediately.

Even if I did want to watch the show, it's only available on Hulu Plus which is a rip-off
In Community related news: who else really enjoyed mini-clip show last night?

Better than last years..

Agreed. From the paintball clip to Troy's ATV, it was freaking hilarious. Last year's was too on the nose, the parody was too blatant.
I thought last night's episode went from good to great once they showed them in the asylum.

taxandspend: Agreed. From the paintball clip to Troy's ATV, it was freaking hilarious. Last year's was too on the nose, the parody was too blatant.
I thought last night's episode went from good to great once they showed them in the asylum.

"...It's ALL terrain."

imgod2u: Started out strong. But the combination of Van Camp's read-off-the-screen acting along with the relatively weak "revenge" that actually happens, I'm losing interest fast.

The supporting cast is fantastic and I suppose that's why I keep going back. That and the british chick who played a prostitute in Diaries of a Call Girl...

When I hear "revenge" I think Old Boy, not "oh no, I might have to work for a living".


Only on the third episode, but that seems like the worst thing in the world to these assholes.

FeedTheCollapse: verbaltoxin: The first few episodes of this season basically told us what we already knew: these were terrible people nobody at Greendale actually likes to be around. Then it dropped that whole premise and it's been whatever pop culture references the writers feel like making the characters contort into referencing this week.

I do agree that the show definitely has too many gimmick episodes that exist solely so the characters can play the role of [TV show/movie]; it's why I can't really get enthusiastic over the Law and Order episode or the Ken Burns Civil war episode, etc. It's not humor, it's just making a pop culture reference in place of an actual joke. The best gimmick episodes are the ones where it expands the plot and/or characters (i.e. last night's episode or "Virtual Systems Analysis"), otherwise the gimmick episodes feel like masturbation and the show comes off as not nearly as smart as it thinks it is.


I do hope the show starts integrating long-running story archs better. They tend to either not give them the support they need or they tend to be kind of stupid (i.e. pretty much anything involving Chang. Good lord how far in quality that character has fallen...)

Now I just look like I'm piling on Community, but I agree with you completely. What left a bad taste in mouth was Chang. Here's a guy who was fired by the college for a serious ethical violation, yet they admitted him as a student one episode later. Several episodes after that he's head of their security. I know Community likes to play outside realism, but that kind of arc is just insulting. If they wanted to keep Ken Jeoung on the show, then why write yourself into such a ludicrous corner?

So, no mention that, even though Cougar Town is coming back, it's going to be on CABLE. On TBS.

Fine, I'll do it...

verbaltoxin: Now I just look like I'm piling on Community, but I agree with you completely. What left a bad taste in mouth was Chang. Here's a guy who was fired by the college for a serious ethical violation, yet they admitted him as a student one episode later. Several episodes after that he's head of their security. I know Community likes to play outside realism, but that kind of arc is just insulting. If they wanted to keep Ken Jeoung on the show, then why write yourself into such a ludicrous corner?

I don't mind the stretch of realism that it took to keep Chang on the show, I'm more annoyed that his character just isn't funny anymore when it used to be one of the best characters.

robsul82: "Parks and Recreation," renewed for a full 22. "Happy Endings," renewed for a full 22. Now to hope for a miracle renewal of "Bent" that will never, ever happen.

Whitney got renewed. I don't know how or why, but it got renewed.

hundreddollarman: Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: Fine, I'll do it...

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Wait, no love to Yvette Nicole Brown?



And no love for Jim Rash?



Nor Joel McHale?

verbaltoxin: FeedTheCollapse: verbaltoxin: The first few episodes of this season basically told us what we already knew: these were terrible people nobody at Greendale actually likes to be around. Then it dropped that whole premise and it's been whatever pop culture references the writers feel like making the characters contort into referencing this week.

I do agree that the show definitely has too many gimmick episodes that exist solely so the characters can play the role of [TV show/movie]; it's why I can't really get enthusiastic over the Law and Order episode or the Ken Burns Civil war episode, etc. It's not humor, it's just making a pop culture reference in place of an actual joke. The best gimmick episodes are the ones where it expands the plot and/or characters (i.e. last night's episode or "Virtual Systems Analysis"), otherwise the gimmick episodes feel like masturbation and the show comes off as not nearly as smart as it thinks it is.


I do hope the show starts integrating long-running story archs better. They tend to either not give them the support they need or they tend to be kind of stupid (i.e. pretty much anything involving Chang. Good lord how far in quality that character has fallen...)

Now I just look like I'm piling on Community, but I agree with you completely. What left a bad taste in mouth was Chang. Here's a guy who was fired by the college for a serious ethical violation, yet they admitted him as a student one episode later. Several episodes after that he's head of their security. I know Community likes to play outside realism, but that kind of arc is just insulting. If they wanted to keep Ken Jeoung on the show, then why write yourself into such a ludicrous corner?

Yesterday was the first episode of community I've seen. It was indistinguishable from Family Guy, imo.

hundreddollarman: Wait... no love for Gillian?

Alison... IS ALL THAT MATTERS!

Man, John Oliver got fat.

hundreddollarman: Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: Fine, I'll do it...

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Sexy balloon animal goodness

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Wait... no love for Gillian?

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The actress who plays Britta is seriously gorgeous too... but Allison Brie is hotter. Just scorchingly, unfairly hot. She's in my top 3.

Zombie Hitler: Yesterday was the first episode of community I've seen. It was indistinguishable from Family Guy, imo.

I wouldn't go that far, especially with last night's episode. Some of their other episodes do kind of come off as a smarter Family Guy in that pop culture references are substituted for jokes.