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2012-05-11 08:46:22 AM
The worse thing about this whole issue is its relative unimportance. What with the economy/jobs, EU meltdown, Iranian nukes, National Debt, MEDICARE/Social Security reform. price of energy , Patriot Act, warrant less wire taps, indefinite detention, TSA molestations etc, the ability of two guys who like farking each other to call themselves married ranks just above plastic bag use in supermarkets and below wondering if Katy Perry's video was propaganda for the Marine Corps on my concern-o-meter.

This is hardly the make or break issue for me in deciding who to vote for.
 
2012-05-11 08:49:53 AM

hasty ambush: The worse thing about this whole issue is its relative unimportance. What with the economy/jobs, EU meltdown, Iranian nukes, National Debt, MEDICARE/Social Security reform. price of energy , Patriot Act, warrant less wire taps, indefinite detention, TSA molestations etc, the ability of two guys who like farking each other to call themselves married ranks just above plastic bag use in supermarkets and below wondering if Katy Perry's video was propaganda for the Marine Corps on my concern-o-meter.

This is hardly the make or break issue for me in deciding who to vote for.


Yeah, the equal protection of the law is a trivial matter, as long as you aren't the one being denied it.
 
2012-05-11 08:51:40 AM
dailydish.typepad.com

Turn left knob for gay adoption. Turn right knob for "traditional" marriage.
 
2012-05-11 09:01:36 AM
Just remove the cartridge, blow on the contacts, tap it a little bit, and put it back in his head. Good as new.
 
2012-05-11 09:03:24 AM

GAT_00: They just know no national media outlet is going to add everything up and force people to realize the utter bullshiat of what he said.


NPR News might, but they'll get yelled at for being socialistic tax mooches and college-educated fancy pantses.
 
2012-05-11 09:05:30 AM
So he's flip-flopping in the same sentence now?
 
2012-05-11 09:06:22 AM

hasty ambush: The worse thing about this whole issue is its relative unimportance. What with the economy/jobs, EU meltdown, Iranian nukes, National Debt, MEDICARE/Social Security reform. price of energy , Patriot Act, warrant less wire taps, indefinite detention, TSA molestations etc, the ability of two guys who like farking each other to call themselves married ranks just above plastic bag use in supermarkets and below wondering if Katy Perry's video was propaganda for the Marine Corps on my concern-o-meter.

This is hardly the make or break issue for me in deciding who to vote for.


"Who cares if someone could be prevented from seeing their partner in the last minutes of their lives or that their kids could be taken away from them, security guards could be touching my swimsuit areas!"
 
2012-05-11 09:08:18 AM

CheatCommando: See Dick Lugar's primary loss, and the fact that Rand Paul was able to get office higher than Sewer Commissioner.


As a Kentuckian let me tell you, Rand Paul's victory can also be very much attributed to how shiatty of a candidate Jack Conway was. He's a bit of a blue dog, so it's not like he was too ideologically removed from Republicans in this red-ass state; he just fumbled his campaign pretty badly. The "Aqua Buddha" ads were just weapons-grade stupid, and Conway ran them hard and pushed the issue up front.
 
2012-05-11 09:18:57 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: hasty ambush: The worse thing about this whole issue is its relative unimportance. What with the economy/jobs, EU meltdown, Iranian nukes, National Debt, MEDICARE/Social Security reform. price of energy , Patriot Act, warrant less wire taps, indefinite detention, TSA molestations etc, the ability of two guys who like farking each other to call themselves married ranks just above plastic bag use in supermarkets and below wondering if Katy Perry's video was propaganda for the Marine Corps on my concern-o-meter.

This is hardly the make or break issue for me in deciding who to vote for.

Yeah, the equal protection of the law is a trivial matter, as long as you aren't the one being denied it.


Ignoring the basic question of why anyone would want to be married anyway marriage is a licensed activity regulated by the state not a right. A drivers license has restrictions with regards to things like age, training, physical and mental health, insurance, past criminal activity such as DWI etc. A hunting fishing license places restrictions as to age and training and a concealed carry permit has a whole lot of restrictions. A marriage license, depending on state, has restrictions with regards to age, gender, blood relationship, quantity, species and who can perform the ceremony and pronounce a couple married (A judge or member of the clergy vs the guy who works in the plumbing section at Lowe's).

Now if you want to get government out of the marriage business I am all for it as marriage licenses did not really appear in the US till about the 1870s. People got along just fine without them. Of course that means we have to rewrite our tax codes, some social welfare benefits requirements, adoption etc etc.
I could really care less if two men, or twenty people and goat want to call themselves married as long as no tax money is involved..
 
2012-05-11 09:21:22 AM
FTA: But he acknowledged that different people, including conservatives, hold different views on the matter, staying away from inflammatory rhetoric and reiterating that the opposition is his "belief."

Sounds like some compromise accepting socialist not a true conservative.
 
2012-05-11 09:22:00 AM

Zerochance: Rand Paul's victory


I am not speaking of his victory in the General. He never should have won a sane party's primary.
 
2012-05-11 09:26:00 AM

AirForceVet: cameroncrazy1984: AirForceVet: I'm looking forward to the 2012 Presidential debates between President Obama, Romney, and RON PAUL.

In Bizarro World?

No, in the Leprechaun World where Ron Paul exists.

Actually, I can only wish for a third party candidate to suck off Libertarian votes from the Republican candidate Romney.


I'd rather see Obama trash Romney head-to-head
 
2012-05-11 09:27:03 AM
kickthemallout.com

/oblg.
 
2012-05-11 09:29:44 AM

hasty ambush: Philip Francis Queeg: hasty ambush: The worse thing about this whole issue is its relative unimportance. What with the economy/jobs, EU meltdown, Iranian nukes, National Debt, MEDICARE/Social Security reform. price of energy , Patriot Act, warrant less wire taps, indefinite detention, TSA molestations etc, the ability of two guys who like farking each other to call themselves married ranks just above plastic bag use in supermarkets and below wondering if Katy Perry's video was propaganda for the Marine Corps on my concern-o-meter.

This is hardly the make or break issue for me in deciding who to vote for.

Yeah, the equal protection of the law is a trivial matter, as long as you aren't the one being denied it.

Ignoring the basic question of why anyone would want to be married anyway marriage is a licensed activity regulated by the state not a right. A drivers license has restrictions with regards to things like age, training, physical and mental health, insurance, past criminal activity such as DWI etc. A hunting fishing license places restrictions as to age and training and a concealed carry permit has a whole lot of restrictions. A marriage license, depending on state, has restrictions with regards to age, gender, blood relationship, quantity, species and who can perform the ceremony and pronounce a couple married (A judge or member of the clergy vs the guy who works in the plumbing section at Lowe's).

Now if you want to get government out of the marriage business I am all for it as marriage licenses did not really appear in the US till about the 1870s. People got along just fine without them. Of course that means we have to rewrite our tax codes, some social welfare benefits requirements, adoption etc etc.
I could really care less if two men, or twenty people and goat want to call themselves married as long as no tax money is involved..


So you won't have a problem then if your demographic group is banned from getting a driver's license because other people think letting you drive is icky, right?
 
2012-05-11 09:29:54 AM

Lord_Baull: Republicans have had 3 years to come up with someone to beat Obama.
This is what they got.


With about 6 months of Liberals telling them that if they really wanted to beat Obama they would have went with Huntsman.
 
2012-05-11 09:38:12 AM
Why does he even talk anymore?
 
2012-05-11 09:38:50 AM

mrshowrules: Lord_Baull: Republicans have had 3 years to come up with someone to beat Obama.
This is what they got.

With about 6 months of Liberals telling them that if they really wanted to beat Obama they would have went with Huntsman.


A big problem there was most of the early primaries are held in redneck states where Tea-Baggers and Fundies are chasing any moderate candidates out of the race.
 
2012-05-11 09:53:09 AM

mrshowrules: With about 6 months of Liberals telling them that if they really wanted to beat Obama they would have went with Huntsman.


And years of rugged individualists telling them to go with RON PAUL.
 
2012-05-11 09:53:22 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Benevolent Misanthrope: So, in other words, Romney has no frigging idea what he thinks about the issue at hand. Well, knock me over with a feather.

I'm with AirForceVet - I simply Can Not WAIT for the debates. Obama is going to clean his god damned clock.

Mark my words, the conservatives will still claim victory by saying that "Obama was too mean and aggressive against Romney and that that is not the sort of statesmanship that we want to see in a president," "Romney handled Obama's attacks with grace and ease, while Obama was rude and aggressive (we are going to hear this word a lot). Obama has shown that he can't keep his cool or act like an adult." "Romney showed a composure rarely seen this day and age and proved he is ready to lead the nation"
In short, they will entirely disregard the content of the questions and only talk about the candidates persona and behavior. As this is now a subjective review of the debate, they can claim Obama lost, and Romney should be president.

So I have spoken and so shall it be.


I really wish I didn't believe that this statement will be accurate with such certainty.

/are you a prophet?
 
2012-05-11 09:58:35 AM

Philip Francis Queeg:
So you won't have a problem then if your demographic group is banned from getting a driver's license because other people think letting you drive is icky, right ...



Some folks think it is icky for first cousins to marry or to marry more than one person or to marry a 16 year old or to marry your dog. Beyond that how would they know if I was "icky" or not? Would I be wearing a badge that says icky? Would it be on my birth certificate? The simple fact is since marriage could involves the tax code, government benefits etc the tax payers get the to define marriage. If the tax payers vote to include the icky fine but it is hardly like denying somebody the right to vote, privacy etc because they are icky. Like I said government should not even be in the marriage business but since we insist on massive cradle to grave government intervention into all levels of our life we have to expect government standards and controls.

As I posted previously there use to be no such thing as marriage licenses
 
2012-05-11 09:59:13 AM
"Mitt Romney said Thursday that same-sex couples should be allowed to adopt children, but they should not be married because children should be raised by a mother and a father." Wait, what?

Who are you--Woody Allen?
I don't think same-sex couples should be allowed to marry their adopted children either, subby.
 
2012-05-11 10:04:54 AM

hasty ambush: Now if you want to get government out of the marriage business I am all for it as marriage licenses did not really appear in the US till about the 1870s. People got along just fine without them. Of course that means we have to rewrite our tax codes, some social welfare benefits requirements, adoption etc etc.


Did...

Did you just "yadda yadda" the whole thing?

The bolded part - the rights and privileges associated with marriage (something as basic as saying "Yeah, that's my husband" and watching the red tape and closed doors fall away) - is the entire raison d'etre of the marriage equality movement.
 
2012-05-11 10:07:23 AM

hasty ambush: The simple fact is since marriage could involves the tax code, government benefits etc the tax payers get the to define marriage.


Within the restraints of the Constitution, including:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 
2012-05-11 10:15:31 AM

FeedTheCollapse: serial_crusher: Eh, makes sense to me. Having two unmarried gay parents is better than having no parents at all.

it's still a bit of convoluted logic; one that also doesn't recognise that even straight unmarried couples are less likely to get approved for adoption. At best, his position is a half-assed attempt move to the center.


That is the most likely explanation, but I like to play this game where I pretend politicians actually mean the things they say, because trying to decipher their apparent contradictions can be fun.

Should be noted that he didn't say gay couples should get high priority, the same priority as a married couple, or anything along those lines. Just that they should be allowed. They're probably still at the bottom of the list.
I guess in a few states a cohabitating straight couple would be forbidden from adopting, so he'd probably have to disagree with that to be consistent.
 
2012-05-11 10:23:53 AM

hasty ambush: but it is hardly like denying somebody the right to vote


You're right; it's not like denying somebody the right to vote (in the US at least) because while voting is arguably a privilege, marriage is one of the basic civil rights of man.
 
2012-05-11 10:29:47 AM
Howzabout you keep the fark out of peoples' lives, Mitt? Would that be a thing?

/asshole
 
2012-05-11 10:37:26 AM
I can't wait for the Daily Show to do a HUGE montage of the contradictions he's said.
 
2012-05-11 10:46:45 AM

soj4life: Well Bobby Newport just lost, not a good sign for Mittens.


Aw, come on! I didn't see the episode yet!
 
2012-05-11 11:02:16 AM

Gyrfalcon: exick: Wouldn't it be funny if Romney really was a robot and saying this caused sparks to fly out of his ears and his head to spin around uncontrollably?

[images.wikia.com image 500x377]


I would really, really like for that picture to become a Romney meme.
 
2012-05-11 11:25:29 AM

monoski: mrshowrules: Lord_Baull: Republicans have had 3 years to come up with someone to beat Obama.
This is what they got.

With about 6 months of Liberals telling them that if they really wanted to beat Obama they would have went with Huntsman.

A big problem there was most of the early primaries are held in redneck states where Tea-Baggers and Fundies are chasing any moderate candidates out of the race.


It is almost as if the Fox News Teabaggenstein is destroying the GOP.
 
2012-05-11 11:28:36 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: I can't wait for the Daily Show to do a HUGE montage of the contradictions he's said.


Keep in mind that it is a 30 minute show. Perhaps they could focus on a montage where he contradicts himself in the same breath. I can think 3 examples without even researching it.
 
2012-05-11 11:41:46 AM

WizardofToast: Either that's one of the more awkward gaffes ever or he has gone Palin level of derp.


You know, you can't even have some good snark without the conservatives making it their reality!

In a blog post made earlier today, Bristol Palin criticized the President for his announcement that he supports full rights for same-sex couples. In the short piece, Bristol say that, "we know in general kids do better growing up in a mother/father home".

Interestingly, she does not go on to cite any studies or give any evidence whatsoever to support her claims. It's almost as if she doesn't actually know what she's talking about.

The joke here (other than the fact that Bristol is still somehow relevant), of course, is that Bristol is 21 years old and had a child out of wedlock in her teens. The father, Levi Johnston, is no longer in the picture. I could stop the article right here, but instead, I decided it would be more fun to throw a few more quotes out there and let Palin speak for herself.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-11 11:45:04 AM
"This is an issue which you cannot, really, convince someone about," he said. "It is something you either believe one way or the other."

What. The. Fark.

I'm sorry, are you telling me the basic human right to marriage is a belief?! Even for a robot, that's farking retarded! Goddamnitsomuch, what the fark is wrong with people that they can even say things like this?

/You want us to 'believe' gays shouldn't marry? Well, my gods 'believe' you and Ann shouldn't be married, so let's go get those divorce proceedings started!
//Oh, and since I believe only Muslim radicals are good parents, I'll be sure to place your kids in a nice loving foster home with two of 'em.
 
2012-05-11 11:56:24 AM

monoski: mrshowrules: Lord_Baull: Republicans have had 3 years to come up with someone to beat Obama.
This is what they got.

With about 6 months of Liberals telling them that if they really wanted to beat Obama they would have went with Huntsman.

A big problem there was most of the early primaries are held in redneck states where Tea-Baggers and Fundies are chasing any moderate candidates out of the race.



I wish all primaries were held within weeks of each other. That's one reason we were stuck with Kerry back in 04. By the time I got to vote, all the candidates had withdrawn for the most part.
 
2012-05-11 12:26:10 PM
Good old Romney - doesn't want to be caught on the "wrong side" of any issue (and, by "wrong side," I mean "the side with fewer voters"), so he'll just straddle the fence on everything.

Fark you, Romney.
 
2012-05-11 01:05:56 PM

The Why Not Guy: apoptotic: ...what he actually means is...

And you know this how?


I don't. That's why my comment started with "I get the feeling that..."
 
2012-05-11 01:29:41 PM

hubiestubert: Poor Schrodinger's Candidate. Soon, he will be able to contradict himself in a single word, but that's going to take a LOT of practice...

It ain't pretty people, but he's putting the time in.


It's easy.

Interviewer: Mitt Romney, how do you feel about subject x?
Mitt Romney: Ambivalent.
 
2012-05-11 01:31:26 PM
To: Elvina

I know I'm not concerned about him being mormon but the gay adoption thing is even worse than gay marriage.

Every time Romney opens his mouth Joe Biden pops out like a damn cuckoo clock

8 posted on Fri 11 May 2012 12:50:21 PM EDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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I can't get that image out of my head now. Awesome.
 
2012-05-11 01:48:04 PM
I'm telling you, the best gimmick the Obama folks could print up would be windsocks with Romney's campaign logo on them.

Romney, political windsock.
 
2012-05-11 02:35:38 PM

apoptotic: The Why Not Guy: apoptotic: ...what he actually means is...

And you know this how?

I don't. That's why my comment started with "I get the feeling that..."


I get feelings like that also. Like the feeling I had that the reason Rush Limbaugh had no clue how the pill worked was that is was never necessary for him to practice birth control with any of his "wives".
 
2012-05-11 02:36:57 PM

FormlessOne: I'm telling you, the best gimmick the Obama folks could print up would be windsocks with Romney's campaign logo on them.

Romney, political windsock.


In the shape of a KKK hood would be funnier.
 
2012-05-11 04:05:22 PM
He's just not very good at this whole campaigning thing.
 
2012-05-11 05:51:14 PM

Goodfella: He's just not very good at this whole campaigning thing.


You'd think with all that money he'd be farming everything out and all he has to do is show up and wave...
 
2012-05-11 09:39:16 PM
Mitt needs to pick Palin for VP. It will also show Evangelicals don't consider Mormonism
is a cult.
 
2012-05-11 09:45:39 PM

FormlessOne: I'm telling you, the best gimmick the Obama folks could print up would be windsocks with Romney's campaign logo on them.

Romney, political windsock.


EIP. I'm going to do that now, and I don't want to rip you off.
 
2012-05-11 10:28:21 PM

codergirl42: hubiestubert: Poor Schrodinger's Candidate. Soon, he will be able to contradict himself in a single word, but that's going to take a LOT of practice...

It ain't pretty people, but he's putting the time in.

It's easy.

Interviewer: Mitt Romney, how do you feel about subject x?
Mitt Romney: Ambivalent.


Polyvalent + ambiguous = polygamous

IT ALL MAKES SENSE!!!
 
2012-05-12 01:57:32 AM

Lansydyr: Uchiha_Cycliste: Benevolent Misanthrope: So, in other words, Romney has no frigging idea what he thinks about the issue at hand. Well, knock me over with a feather.

I'm with AirForceVet - I simply Can Not WAIT for the debates. Obama is going to clean his god damned clock.

Mark my words, the conservatives will still claim victory by saying that "Obama was too mean and aggressive against Romney and that that is not the sort of statesmanship that we want to see in a president," "Romney handled Obama's attacks with grace and ease, while Obama was rude and aggressive (we are going to hear this word a lot). Obama has shown that he can't keep his cool or act like an adult." "Romney showed a composure rarely seen this day and age and proved he is ready to lead the nation"
In short, they will entirely disregard the content of the questions and only talk about the candidates persona and behavior. As this is now a subjective review of the debate, they can claim Obama lost, and Romney should be president.

So I have spoken and so shall it be.

I really wish I didn't believe that this statement will be accurate with such certainty.

/are you a prophet?


no, my friend... I am a wizard. =D
 
2012-05-12 02:10:04 AM
Romney's ability to contradict himself within the same sentence and carry on without even blinking shows us all very clearly that at the end of the day he really is the ultimate Not-Romney.

i293.photobucket.com

Those other guys didn't have a chance.
 
2012-05-13 12:17:14 AM
SINGLE PARENTS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO MARRY
 
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