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2012-05-10 05:22:17 PM
Obligatory:

www.rustywalrus.com
 
2012-05-10 05:35:05 PM
I will admit to texting while stopped a red lights, if someone just texted me.

Not while the car is actively moving. Worst that happens is that I get honked at.
 
2012-05-10 05:42:25 PM

Rincewind53: I will admit to texting while stopped a red lights, if someone just texted me.

Not while the car is actively moving. Worst that happens is that I get honked at.


yeah, eff those people.
 
2012-05-10 06:09:09 PM

bdub77: Obligatory:


I see I'm not needed here.

As you were.
 
2012-05-10 06:35:46 PM
If someone is texting me, it's not important.
 
2012-05-10 06:35:51 PM
Texting while driving... no.

Posting to a Fark thread while driving... mmm, I'm okay with this.
 
2012-05-10 06:48:41 PM

Rincewind53: I will admit to texting while stopped a red lights, if someone just texted me.

Not while the car is actively moving. Worst that happens is that I get honked at.


It's a bad habit. You really shouldn't be distracted while at a stop light. You never know when you are going to have to pull aside for emergency reasons. Or duck in case there is an accident in progress.
 
2012-05-10 06:48:41 PM
fc09.deviantart.net
 
2012-05-10 07:12:23 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Rincewind53: I will admit to texting while stopped a red lights, if someone just texted me.

Not while the car is actively moving. Worst that happens is that I get honked at.

It's a bad habit. You really shouldn't be distracted while at a stop light. You never know when you are going to have to pull aside for emergency reasons. Or duck in case there is an accident in progress.


Yeah, I know it's a bad habit. But on safety grounds, it's really not particularly unsafe to be distracted while stopped at a red light. If an ambulance needs me to pull over, I'm not deaf, I'll notice. And we're talking looking down for maybe 5 seconds at a time.
 
2012-05-10 07:32:37 PM

Rincewind53: Yeah, I know it's a bad habit. But on safety grounds, it's really not particularly unsafe to be distracted while stopped at a red light. If an ambulance needs me to pull over, I'm not deaf, I'll notice. And we're talking looking down for maybe 5 seconds at a time.


I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving. People use horns and sirens for a reason, you shouldn't intentionally block that shiat out.
 
2012-05-10 07:39:09 PM

scottydoesntknow: Rincewind53: Yeah, I know it's a bad habit. But on safety grounds, it's really not particularly unsafe to be distracted while stopped at a red light. If an ambulance needs me to pull over, I'm not deaf, I'll notice. And we're talking looking down for maybe 5 seconds at a time.

I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving. People use horns and sirens for a reason, you shouldn't intentionally block that shiat out.


Totally agree with you on that, if you can't hear what's going on outside the car then you're not driving safely.
 
2012-05-10 08:05:43 PM
Well, on the upside they're not old ladies who manage to not only be dangerous, but slow too.
 
2012-05-10 08:05:47 PM
When I no longer see cops texting and driving, I'll stop doing it as well.
 
2012-05-10 08:07:02 PM
I wanted to throw something at the kid who was texting while driving up my road. He almost veered into the lake, but started paying attention as his car started into my neighbor's lawn.

scottydoesntknow: I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving. People use horns and sirens for a reason, you shouldn't intentionally block that shiat out.


I think that's illegal in some states... however, I've only seen one or two people in my life wearing headphones while driving. Is that something common where you're from?
 
2012-05-10 08:07:16 PM
Incidents of "texting while driving" would likely decrease significantly were my proposal of imposing capital punishment for such an offense implemented.
 
2012-05-10 08:08:01 PM

ChaffedTitty: When I no longer see cops texting and driving, I'll stop doing it as well.


When you no longer see cops beating and tasering people to death, will you stop doing that too? ;)
 
2012-05-10 08:08:02 PM
You should suspend their license as well as forbid them a cell phone for a year. That'll hurt em worse than anything.

/get a land line, biatch
 
2012-05-10 08:10:15 PM
DUI laws will continue to be too harsh until penalties for using mobile devices become equal.
 
2012-05-10 08:10:53 PM
I have a hard enough time thumbing through my contact list to talk on my hands free. Could not imagine texting, not that old, early thirties.
 
2012-05-10 08:11:26 PM
You could institute the death penalty to people caught texting while driving and people will still do it.
 
2012-05-10 08:11:37 PM

mynameist: DUI laws will continue to be too harsh until penalties for using mobile devices become equal.


If you're really drunk and driving, just start texting and you'll never get pulled over.
 
2012-05-10 08:12:15 PM
Hey, kids! You know how you like to type sh*t like "Haw! teh L00zorz!" and "Ha ha teh FAIL!!1"? If you're piloting two tons of steel while typing on something the size of a pack of Camels, guess what?
 
2012-05-10 08:13:12 PM
Oddly, with so much emphasis on self in the past 35 years or so, self control has never taken hold..
 
2012-05-10 08:13:31 PM
This is an outrage!

Sent from my iPhone
 
2012-05-10 08:14:18 PM

scottydoesntknow: Rincewind53: Yeah, I know it's a bad habit. But on safety grounds, it's really not particularly unsafe to be distracted while stopped at a red light. If an ambulance needs me to pull over, I'm not deaf, I'll notice. And we're talking looking down for maybe 5 seconds at a time.

I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving. People use horns and sirens for a reason, you shouldn't intentionally block that shiat out.


I use headphones, but I completely agree with you, so I only ever have one earbud in at a time. People who use both are begging to get into a wreck.

On-topic, the headline only notes that 8-in-10 ADMIT to it. I wonder what the real numbers are?
 
2012-05-10 08:15:03 PM

Dimensio: Incidents of "texting while driving" would likely decrease significantly were my proposal of imposing capital punishment for such an offense implemented.


The key is not severity, but consistency. Punishment must be immediate and guaranteed. Every phone must have a GPS tracker, and if any three distinct buttons are pressed in less than a minute when speed exceeds 10 MPH, the phone should brick itself.
 
2012-05-10 08:15:52 PM

mynameist: DUI laws will continue to be too harsh until penalties for using mobile devices become equal.


It's completely different. *I* know how to text and drive.
 
2012-05-10 08:16:34 PM
8in10

Luckily, 10in10 parents who let their kids drive are the 2in10
 
2012-05-10 08:17:37 PM

Tiiba: Dimensio: Incidents of "texting while driving" would likely decrease significantly were my proposal of imposing capital punishment for such an offense implemented.

The key is not severity, but consistency. Punishment must be immediate and guaranteed. Every phone must have a GPS tracker, and if any three distinct buttons are pressed in less than a minute when speed exceeds 10 MPH, the phone should brick itself.


Such a feature would prevent use of cellular devices by passengers in any vehicle, including in public transit. I do not object to passengers of public transportation sending text messages.
 
2012-05-10 08:17:40 PM

Tiiba: Dimensio: Incidents of "texting while driving" would likely decrease significantly were my proposal of imposing capital punishment for such an offense implemented.

The key is not severity, but consistency. Punishment must be immediate and guaranteed. Every phone must have a GPS tracker, and if any three distinct buttons are pressed in less than a minute when speed exceeds 10 MPH, the phone should brick itself.


I see what you're saying, but assdialing on a bumpy road would screw over WAY the hell too many people for it to be practical.
 
2012-05-10 08:18:44 PM

Rincewind53: Not while the car is actively moving. Worst that happens is that I get honked at.


I think I was behind you today. 2 stop lights...light changes, no movement.
Put the phone/texting device/pacifier down.
 
2012-05-10 08:20:43 PM
it's been proven that not signaling is actually more dangerous than texting while driving - twice as dangerous.

see http://blog.timesunion.com/gettingthere/is-failure-to-signal-bigger-da nger-than-distracted-driving/3219/ and http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1075978_is-forgetting-to-signal-a s-dangerous-as-texting-driving

so yeah, not a big deal.
 
2012-05-10 08:22:15 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: If someone is texting me, it's not important.


This
 
2012-05-10 08:22:34 PM
I have trouble driving while I drive.
 
2012-05-10 08:22:52 PM

chaddsfarkprefect: Oddly, with so much emphasis on self in the past 35 years or so, self control has never taken hold..


Sadly, I know exactly what you mean.
 
2012-05-10 08:23:18 PM

farkingatwork: it's been proven that not signaling is actually more dangerous than texting while driving - twice as dangerous.

see http://blog.timesunion.com/gettingthere/is-failure-to-signal-bigger-da nger-than-distracted-driving/3219/ and http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1075978_is-forgetting-to-signal-a s-dangerous-as-texting-driving

so yeah, not a big deal.


I also advocate corporal punishment for individuals who fail to adequately signal planned lane changes and turns.
 
2012-05-10 08:25:47 PM
And 10 out of 10 elderly drivers admit to driving.
 
2012-05-10 08:26:20 PM
... And yet the death rate hasn't asploded.

Maybe, just maybe.... IT'S NOT THAT DANGEROUS. Like everything else that they keep harping about.

But we gotta keep cops on the road, generating revenue.... So keep on with the OMG THEY GONNA KILL US ALL derp.

Suckers.
 
2012-05-10 08:27:18 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: If someone is texting me, it's not important.

This


You both sound old.
 
2012-05-10 08:28:22 PM
I text occasionally when I drive (because my wife doesn't understand how to farking call me when I'm driving). Usually takes me a while because I'll move my finger to where I think the letter is, glance down to make sure, then look back at the road. Rinse repeat for a couple minutes until I've got the message typed out. I'm not stupid enough to take my eyes off the road while I type out a sentence.

/sometimes I wish I knew text-speak
//then I smack myself for daring not to use proper English when I'm texting
 
2012-05-10 08:29:56 PM
Bullshiat. 10 out of 10 do it.
 
2012-05-10 08:33:01 PM
I put my phone in my crotch and type staring at my screen when I do it.


/everyone under 25 texts and drives
//the farktards do that
///most under 25 can text without looking at their phone
 
2012-05-10 08:34:48 PM

demonwolf04: You both sound old.


And you sound like ambulance bait. We all have our cross to bear.
 
2012-05-10 08:35:51 PM

demonwolf04: drjekel_mrhyde: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: If someone is texting me, it's not important.

This

You both sound old.


Me and my brother have a shiat ton of rollover minutes (17k) and most people we know have At&t so the minutes calling them won't count against my RO or anytime minutes
/Keeping this plan just in case my brother decide to splurge again
 
2012-05-10 08:36:12 PM

basemetal: You should suspend their license as well as forbid them a cell phone for a year. That'll hurt em worse than anything.

/get a land line, biatch


Let them drive, but suspend their cell phone access for a year--that should do it. Better still: install the cell phone in their car, but don't let them use it if the engine is running. Torture is a delicate art.
 
2012-05-10 08:37:06 PM
I never text, phone, or drink while driving.

/Helps that I'm an antisocial asshole with a smug self-righteous attitude, so no one will text, call, or drink with me
 
2012-05-10 08:37:18 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: If someone is texting me, it's not important.

This


This brings up an interesting point. Texting (or SMS, as well call it here) is the rage in Indonesia, where I live, and where every one of the approximately 220m inhabitants possesses an average 1.05 cell phones.

I've studied the issue and talked to people about when and why they text; the conclusion is not that texting is for trivial or silly matters but in many cases may simply be a more polite way of initiating a communication than phoning directly. When you phone directly you risk encountering anger, inconvenience, a noisy environment or someone in a critical situation. I often text first, asking whether it would be convenient to call them up - and if not now, then when.

When it's a client, or a superior, or somebody prone to nastiness, I find it infinitely preferable to text first. Also to be texted - it gives me the option of ignoring the message, which is considerably more diplomatic than hanging up or choosing to ignore the call.

Is it cultural perhaps?
 
2012-05-10 08:37:20 PM
You can read texts without looking at your phone? How do you do it?
 
2012-05-10 08:37:36 PM

Cheesus: I text occasionally when I drive (because my wife doesn't understand how to farking call me when I'm driving). Usually takes me a while because I'll move my finger to where I think the letter is, glance down to make sure, then look back at the road. Rinse repeat for a couple minutes until I've got the message typed out. I'm not stupid enough to take my eyes off the road while I type out a sentence.


And your attention...your brain power...is where, exactly?
Whatever. You go ahead and convince yourself that you're doing it right.

/you could, of course, stop for 20 seconds and do the important text thing
 
2012-05-10 08:37:42 PM

JaaVaa: ///most under 25 can text without looking at their phone


Well I'm impressed. This will no doubt lead to a Nobel, some day. And hey, a posthumous Nobel is still pretty impressive. Try not to hit anybody useful.
 
2012-05-10 08:37:58 PM

Rincewind53: I will admit to texting while stopped a red lights, if someone just texted me.

Not while the car is actively moving. Worst that happens is that I get honked at.


www.tvworthwatching.com

Approves
 
2012-05-10 08:38:04 PM
One of my students died while texting a few semesters ago. She was on the highway and she died instantly. You should have seen the mess she made. It made the news.

I've started yelling at kids texting. I slow down when coming to a green light at a 4-way intersection. My wife was nearly t-boned by a texting driver. I passed an accident about two months ago--it was an absurd rear-end collision on a quiet street. Business person in her forties was rear-ended by a kid who looked 15. Was she texting?

You have a pretty good chance of killing someone with a car. It is big and heavy and metal.
 
2012-05-10 08:40:34 PM
The simple soution.

Monitize this the same way DWI's have become cash cows.

Allow TWIers to buy their way out of a permanent conviction if they didn't hurt anyone by making them purchase court-mandated classes explaining why it is dangerous.

This will stop it.
 
2012-05-10 08:40:53 PM
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2012-05-10 08:41:22 PM

scottydoesntknow: I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving.


This is a thing? (beyond bluetooth headsets?)

Because I'm also quite positive it's highly illegal.

Strangely enough, having an assault class stereo at full volume is perfectly legal.
 
2012-05-10 08:42:56 PM

JohnnyC: ChaffedTitty: When I no longer see cops texting and driving, I'll stop doing it as well.

When you no longer see cops beating and tasering people to death, will you stop doing that too? ;)


I have no moral objection to beating and tasering people to death if they cause an accident while texting or talking on their phones.
 
2012-05-10 08:44:39 PM
fluffy2097 ,Strangely enough, having an assault class stereo at full volume is perfectly legal.

No it isn't. Cops will ticket you for noise laws.
 
2012-05-10 08:45:31 PM
It's news to me that eight out of ten "young drivers" text in the first place, let alone while they are driving. What happened to calling someone if you want to talk to them? Not that I'd do that while I'm driving, either.

/Never understood texting
//Still in my mid 20s
 
2012-05-10 08:45:44 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Cheesus: I text occasionally when I drive (because my wife doesn't understand how to farking call me when I'm driving). Usually takes me a while because I'll move my finger to where I think the letter is, glance down to make sure, then look back at the road. Rinse repeat for a couple minutes until I've got the message typed out. I'm not stupid enough to take my eyes off the road while I type out a sentence.

And your attention...your brain power...is where, exactly?
Whatever. You go ahead and convince yourself that you're doing it right.

/you could, of course, stop for 20 seconds and do the important text thing


Because everyone focuses all their brain power on driving. When I drive home and I'm thinking about what to do once I get there, what I'm cooking for supper, what needs to get done before I go to bed, what happened at work, etc. Meanwhile I'm reading signs, reading advertisements, looking at scenery, listening to the radio, changing the station when a commercial comes on, trying to figure out what the person in front of me's license plate means, etc. Should I pull over for those things as well?
 
2012-05-10 08:46:00 PM
 
2012-05-10 08:46:30 PM
Anyone who dials a phone number while driving is texting.
 
2012-05-10 08:49:03 PM
You know what? You can PRETEND that your whole f*cking life is a blithe social whirl that necessitates your being in constant touch with your amazingly interesting, just-like-the-people-on-TeeVee friends via ASCII or phone every breathless second of every ultra hip day, but you're still just sort of vain, ridiculous and typing on a hockey puck with your thumbs at 35 M.P.H. trying not to pow into somebody else on a second by second basis. And if you honestly can't see how laughable and lame and pretentious that is, at least try to hit an inanimate object when you finally sh*t the bed. Some people actually have lives and people who care about them enough to wait for them to get home.
 
2012-05-10 08:49:23 PM
Just this morning I watched a girl sail through a fully red light while she texted. The Mack truck missed her by about 5 feet.

My husband gets mad that I instantly become the World's Most Annoying Backseat Driver if he picks up his phone while driving. He doesn't understand that whatever he's trying to find out can either be looked up on my phone, or it can wait the goddamn 5 minutes until we get to our destination. Drives me bat-shiat crazy every time.
 
2012-05-10 08:50:07 PM
Hey subby... Want to play some 1 on one?

/pick. Numerals or words.
//Never both.
 
2012-05-10 08:50:17 PM

Tiiba: Dimensio: Incidents of "texting while driving" would likely decrease significantly were my proposal of imposing capital punishment for such an offense implemented.

The key is not severity, but consistency. Punishment must be immediate and guaranteed. Every phone must have a GPS tracker, and if any three distinct buttons are pressed in less than a minute when speed exceeds 10 MPH, the phone should brick itself.


Like "Help, I've been kidnapped and she's put me in the trunk"?
 
2012-05-10 08:51:00 PM

SpeedyBB: drjekel_mrhyde: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: If someone is texting me, it's not important.

This

This brings up an interesting point. Texting (or SMS, as well call it here) is the rage in Indonesia, where I live, and where every one of the approximately 220m inhabitants possesses an average 1.05 cell phones.

I've studied the issue and talked to people about when and why they text; the conclusion is not that texting is for trivial or silly matters but in many cases may simply be a more polite way of initiating a communication than phoning directly. When you phone directly you risk encountering anger, inconvenience, a noisy environment or someone in a critical situation. I often text first, asking whether it would be convenient to call them up - and if not now, then when.

When it's a client, or a superior, or somebody prone to nastiness, I find it infinitely preferable to text first. Also to be texted - it gives me the option of ignoring the message, which is considerably more diplomatic than hanging up or choosing to ignore the call.

Is it cultural perhaps?


Probably. And generational. I can only speak for myself and people I know here in Ohio, it is seen as an informal way of communicating things that are not real important and do not need an answer right away. If you need to get ahold of them right then, you just call. If I have something more to say than a couple sentences, then I'll text and say I have something to talk to you about. Let me know when you're not doing anything so i can call. Im not going to type out a book on my phone... Then again, I'm 30. 18 year olds and 60 year olds probably have different opinions.
 
2012-05-10 08:51:27 PM

SkerriNinja: Just this morning I watched a girl sail through a fully red light while she texted. The Mack truck missed her by about 5 feet.

My husband gets mad that I instantly become the World's Most Annoying Backseat Driver if he picks up his phone while driving. He doesn't understand that whatever he's trying to find out can either be looked up on my phone, or it can wait the goddamn 5 minutes until we get to our destination. Drives me bat-shiat crazy every time.


That's why I turn off the ringer and vibrator before I start driving. One less distraction.
 
2012-05-10 08:54:22 PM

elchupacabra: ... And yet the death rate hasn't asploded.

Maybe, just maybe.... IT'S NOT THAT DANGEROUS. Like everything else that they keep harping about.

But we gotta keep cops on the road, generating revenue.... So keep on with the OMG THEY GONNA KILL US ALL derp.

Suckers.


You make it sound like only death is a consequence of a vehicular crash. What about property damage, and personal injury? Those aren't big enough of a deal to think that texting is a bad idea? Texting has been shown to be as distracting as driving while intoxicated; I've seen a young driver going 40mph on I-40 between Burlington and Durham, NC; he was devoting at least half if not more of his attention to his mobile device. Sure he was in little danger of hitting anything, but he was seriously endangering everyone else with his thoughtless act.
 
2012-05-10 08:54:38 PM

rebelyell2006: That's why I turn off the ringer and vibrator before I start driving. One less distraction.


Might I suggest taking the vibrator out before leaving the house?
 
2012-05-10 08:55:02 PM
I`m getting a kick out of this because I`m driving while typing this comment.
 
2012-05-10 08:56:19 PM

scottydoesntknow: Rincewind53: Yeah, I know it's a bad habit. But on safety grounds, it's really not particularly unsafe to be distracted while stopped at a red light. If an ambulance needs me to pull over, I'm not deaf, I'll notice. And we're talking looking down for maybe 5 seconds at a time.

I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving. People use horns and sirens for a reason, you shouldn't intentionally block that shiat out.


Guess what. Deaf people are allowed to drive. I SAID DEAF PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO DRIVE! Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

And, statistically speaking, I hear they're better drivers than non-deafs. Sorry again. The puns are just too easy.

Seriously, tho, I think wearing noise-cancelling headphones at low volume would be much better for your ears than cranking up the radio loud enough to hear it over road noise. It wouldn't be too hard to develop noise cancelling headphones that respond to emergency lights and sirens, muting the music and playing an alert sound. But nobody's doing to touch that with a 10 meter cattle prod due to liability issues and the near certainty that they'd be outlawed before they got to market.
 
2012-05-10 08:56:58 PM
I admit to having done it years ago, as I knew what letters were on what key, so I could touch type. Now, with touch screen smart phones, it's impossible to do that.
 
2012-05-10 08:57:10 PM

oukewldave: Probably. And generational. I can only speak for myself and people I know here in Ohio, it is seen as an informal way of communicating things that are not real important and do not need an answer right away. If you need to get ahold of them right then, you just call. If I have something more to say than a couple sentences, then I'll text and say I have something to talk to you about. Let me know when you're not doing anything so i can call. Im not going to type out a book on my phone... Then again, I'm 30. 18 year olds and 60 year olds probably have different opinions.


That's interesting. Generally, where I am in upstate NY, people seem to view texting as being more appropriate for things that do need an answer right away. People can often text in situations where answering the phone is not acceptable or without significantly interrupting whatever else they're doing at their desk. Plus, it's in print, so there's a record.
 
2012-05-10 08:59:13 PM

Cheesus: Should I pull over for those things as well?


No. But with ALL of those other things, thinking about and doing those things falls second to driving. Consciously or subconsciously, your brain suspends those activities in favor of actually driving. Texting/talking on the phone seems to be different. Your thought process, your concentration, is 'outside' the vehicle.

Show us any study, just one, that shows any of your listed tasks have as much impact on driving as texting/phoning. Just one...
 
2012-05-10 09:00:09 PM

eKonk: I never text, phone, or drink while driving.

/Helps that I'm an antisocial asshole with a smug self-righteous attitude, so no one will text, call, or drink with me


Holy shiat! I had no idea my ex-husband was a Farker!

Have your lawyer call the court - the judge wants a word or two hundred. ;)
 
2012-05-10 09:02:10 PM
8 out of 10, so that's like half, isn't it?
 
2012-05-10 09:02:51 PM
Pfft! Amateurs....

I've sent whole emails and posted photos to Facebook while driving.
 
2012-05-10 09:03:48 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Pfft! Amateurs....

I've sent whole emails and posted photos to Facebook while driving.


So?
 
2012-05-10 09:04:50 PM

rebelyell2006: SkerriNinja: Just this morning I watched a girl sail through a fully red light while she texted. The Mack truck missed her by about 5 feet.

My husband gets mad that I instantly become the World's Most Annoying Backseat Driver if he picks up his phone while driving. He doesn't understand that whatever he's trying to find out can either be looked up on my phone, or it can wait the goddamn 5 minutes until we get to our destination. Drives me bat-shiat crazy every time.

That's why I turn off the ringer and vibrator before I start driving. One less distraction.


He likes to use The Google when something piques his interest. He gets huffy when I cringe. Sometimes I throw an extra exaggerated flinch in, just because I know it drives him bonkers. I just don't understand why knowledge during driving is so important. Or at least why he can't turn the phone over to me and let me look it up. I guess my google-fu isn't up to snuff.
 
2012-05-10 09:07:17 PM

Bendal: elchupacabra: ... And yet the death rate hasn't asploded.

Maybe, just maybe.... IT'S NOT THAT DANGEROUS. Like everything else that they keep harping about.

But we gotta keep cops on the road, generating revenue.... So keep on with the OMG THEY GONNA KILL US ALL derp.

Suckers.

You make it sound like only death is a consequence of a vehicular crash. What about property damage, and personal injury? Those aren't big enough of a deal to think that texting is a bad idea? Texting has been shown to be as distracting as driving while intoxicated; I've seen a young driver going 40mph on I-40 between Burlington and Durham, NC; he was devoting at least half if not more of his attention to his mobile device. Sure he was in little danger of hitting anything, but he was seriously endangering everyone else with his thoughtless act.


I don't know about where YOU are....but the accident rate for sure has gone up here in So Cal since texting got big. The fact that nobody is DYING in those accidents is only a testament to the efficacy of seatbelts and air bags, the skill of EMS responders, and the fact that most accidents take place in rush hour traffic, which is slow enough not to kill you right away.

But I don't like my insurance rates going up and up and up because dorks like you just HAVE to answer your phone every time your girlfriend needs to say "Honey? Do you still love me as much as you did five minutes ago?" even if you "only" get in a fender bender instead of suffering the horrible agonizing death you deserve.
 
2012-05-10 09:07:27 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Well, on the upside they're not old ladies who manage to not only be dangerous, but slow too.


...Yet.

Just wait another couple of decades, and there WILL be old ladies texting & driving... (If they manage to survive that long, of course)
 
2012-05-10 09:12:33 PM
Text while you're f*cking your boyfriend and he might look at you like a dead fish and go play with his PS3.

Text while you're cooking and you might BURN THE FREE RANGE TOFU!

Text while you're driving an you and some people who were minding their own business might end up with a zipper in the your chest. And yet...

See, I'm all for you risking your own life for some some douchey sense of amusement at "getting away with something" I'm fine with that. YOUR life. Yours. Period.
 
2012-05-10 09:19:56 PM

Last Man on Earth: Tiiba: Dimensio: Incidents of "texting while driving" would likely decrease significantly were my proposal of imposing capital punishment for such an offense implemented.

The key is not severity, but consistency. Punishment must be immediate and guaranteed. Every phone must have a GPS tracker, and if any three distinct buttons are pressed in less than a minute when speed exceeds 10 MPH, the phone should brick itself.

I see what you're saying, but assdialing on a bumpy road would screw over WAY the hell too many people for it to be practical.



I know, I know. But I figured, if it's so horrible that capital punishment fits the crime, so does collateral damage.
 
2012-05-10 09:22:14 PM

scottydoesntknow:
I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving. People use horns and sirens for a reason, you shouldn't intentionally block that shiat out.


When I was younger the radio in my car died on me, and I didn't have the money to replace it for a while. On short trips it didn't matter so much, but on long drives I needed something to listen to. So I would listen to my mp3 player with my headphones on long drives. At one point my mom said to me 'you shouldn't do that, it's dangerous. You can't hear anything around you'. And I'll tell you exactly what I told her: If the stereo in my car were working I wouldn't be able to hear what's going on outside my car any better than I do with my headphones. As long as you pay attention to what's going on around you, you don't even need to hear. Deaf people are perfectly capable drivers.
 
2012-05-10 09:23:44 PM
I'm usually way too drunk to care if other drivers are texting or not.
 
2012-05-10 09:23:48 PM

JohnnyC: ChaffedTitty: When I no longer see cops texting and driving, I'll stop doing it as well.

When you no longer see cops beating and tasering people to death, will you stop doing that too? ;)


No, but I'll start thinking about taking my crosshairs off their car as they drive by.
 
2012-05-10 09:24:00 PM
I am actually pleasantly surprised at the low number of worthless knobs in this thread defending texting while driving.

Maybe there is hope...
 
2012-05-10 09:24:03 PM
elchupacabra... And yet the death rate hasn't asploded.
Maybe, just maybe.... IT'S NOT THAT DANGEROUS. Like everything else that they keep harping about.
But we gotta keep cops on the road, generating revenue.... So keep on with the OMG THEY GONNA KILL US ALL derp.
Suckers.


Death is not my fear, but I would like to see actually drive and not drift pointlessly like old ladies five miles under the speed limit.
 
2012-05-10 09:37:39 PM
If you're in a car accident (severity is irrelevant) and you sent a text message within 2 minutes of the accident, you should be hit with a $5,000 fine, even if it's the first offense.
 
2012-05-10 09:38:09 PM

fluffy2097: scottydoesntknow: I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving.

This is a thing? (beyond bluetooth headsets?)

Because I'm also quite positive it's highly illegal.

Strangely enough, having an assault class stereo at full volume is perfectly legal.


Yes

Kinda

Totally wrong.

I see people with headphones in all the time. I often assume they are wired headsets for the phone, but who knows for sure. As to the legality of it... I'm sure it depends on where you live. I'm pretty sure it's illegal in OR, but I don't know about anywhere else.

As to "assault class stereos"... allow me to share what I was told by innumerable cops over the years. "If I can hear it, with my windows up, you are getting a ticket". Noise pollution, believe it or not.

/big ass subwoofer
//itty bitty nob for sub volume. Saved me a lot of tickets.
 
2012-05-10 09:40:00 PM
I feel much more endangered by the assholes who use the 'right turn only' lane as a passing lane and those who think the shoulder on the interstate can be used to drive 70+ MPH when the rest of traffic is at a near standstill. Texting while driving is being stupidly inattentive, you can avoid those people. They're being dumb, but for some reason I'm more forgiving of negligence than malice. The actively hostile drivers who are purposely putting others' lives in danger without regard for their own personal safety? Those are the ones I get pissed about.
 
2012-05-10 09:40:37 PM

FizixJunkee: If you're in a car accident (severity is irrelevant) and you sent a text message within 2 minutes of the accident, you should be hit with a $5,000 fine, even if it's the first offense.


THIS^^^

And a license suspension for 3 months.
 
2012-05-10 09:41:26 PM
I'd just like to add that a teenage girl ran over 6 of my driveway hedges while apparently not drunk or high. We don't know if she was texting as all she would say was 'I looked up and they were in front of me and I hit them'. This is in a small neighborhood on a 120 yards long road with an average speed of 20mph.
 
2012-05-10 09:41:28 PM
I don't care if someone checks an incoming text at a red light, provided they watch for the green and put the damn phone down when it turns. Sending a text while operating a car, stopped or otherwise, never.

It can wait.
 
2012-05-10 09:41:40 PM

Neondistraction: scottydoesntknow:
I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving. People use horns and sirens for a reason, you shouldn't intentionally block that shiat out.

When I was younger the radio in my car died on me, and I didn't have the money to replace it for a while. On short trips it didn't matter so much, but on long drives I needed something to listen to. So I would listen to my mp3 player with my headphones on long drives. At one point my mom said to me 'you shouldn't do that, it's dangerous. You can't hear anything around you'. And I'll tell you exactly what I told her: If the stereo in my car were working I wouldn't be able to hear what's going on outside my car any better than I do with my headphones. As long as you pay attention to what's going on around you, you don't even need to hear. Deaf people are perfectly capable drivers.


Better than what one of my friends used to do. He'd just got his "new" car and we were cruising when he started singing some god-awful pop song. Then he realized I was staring at him. "Oh. Uh. The stereo doesn't work so I sing." "That doesn't explain why you're singing that song." It was Debbie Gibson or something along those lines.
 
2012-05-10 09:42:49 PM

Enemabag Jones: The simple soution.

Monitize this the same way DWI's have become cash cows.



This.

\yes, I'm old
\\you can kiss my hairy, knee-knockin' balls
 
2012-05-10 09:43:38 PM
Wow, it's amazing how riled up farkers get when you do young people things, you all sound fat and old.

Sent: From my iPhone 4S!
Where: I-94 in Billings, Montana
 
2012-05-10 09:43:57 PM
Kahabut As to "assault class stereos"... allow me to share what I was told by innumerable cops over the years. "If I can hear it, with my windows up, you are getting a ticket". Noise pollution, believe it or not.
/big ass subwoofer
//itty bitty nob for sub volume. Saved me a lot of tickets.


What if they can 'feel it' and not hear it?
Or how do cops treat noise pollution in the sub 20 hertz range?
 
2012-05-10 09:46:44 PM
99.999999% of text messages are just useless noise. No need to follow them while driving. I mean it's great that your best friend just found, like, the greatest shoes, like, evar, but maybe that news can wait until the next time you meet her.
 
2012-05-10 09:47:47 PM
These punk kids are so stupid they're useless to society anyway.
Let natural selection run it's course and thin the herd of retards.
 
2012-05-10 09:48:06 PM
I used to design and tweak high end car audio for a company I named and which is, still, 30 years later, thriving. Lemme tell ya something about what a stereo is for. It's not to drive past people's homes at a 20 roll with your body panels rattling at the obligatory 70/30 ratio of sub bass to full range playback and it's not impress chicks or f*ck up your sense of balance by turning your cochlea into 40 Hz pudding. It's to.. and this is ANY audio system, ACCURATELY reproduce *exactly* that the mastering engineer signed off on in it's assigned listening area without distortion, frequency anomalies exaggerated response curves. If your stereo doesn't do that, your stereo sucks.
 
2012-05-10 09:48:14 PM
Text?? How do people even answer the phone while driving?

/drives stick
 
2012-05-10 09:48:14 PM

Tiiba: Dimensio: Incidents of "texting while driving" would likely decrease significantly were my proposal of imposing capital punishment for such an offense implemented.

The key is not severity, but consistency. Punishment must be immediate and guaranteed. Every phone must have a GPS tracker, and if any three distinct buttons are pressed in less than a minute when speed exceeds 10 MPH, the phone should brick itself.

Kahabut: FizixJunkee: If you're in a car accident (severity is irrelevant) and you sent a text message within 2 minutes of the accident, you should be hit with a $5,000 fine, even if it's the first offense.

THIS^^^

And a license suspension for 3 months.


What is it about fascists that they can't think their cunning plans all the way through?
 
2012-05-10 09:52:28 PM

lewismarktwo: Tiiba: Dimensio: Incidents of "texting while driving" would likely decrease significantly were my proposal of imposing capital punishment for such an offense implemented.

The key is not severity, but consistency. Punishment must be immediate and guaranteed. Every phone must have a GPS tracker, and if any three distinct buttons are pressed in less than a minute when speed exceeds 10 MPH, the phone should brick itself.

Kahabut: FizixJunkee: If you're in a car accident (severity is irrelevant) and you sent a text message within 2 minutes of the accident, you should be hit with a $5,000 fine, even if it's the first offense.

THIS^^^

And a license suspension for 3 months.

What is it about fascists that they can't think their cunning plans all the way through?


There's a difference between oppressive and pulling somebody's head out of their ass before they start playing dodgems with a car full of kids on their way to day care.
 
2012-05-10 09:59:15 PM

JaaVaa: Wow, it's amazing how riled up farkers get when you do young people things, you all sound fat and old.


failblog.files.wordpress.com

Sent: From my iPhone 4S!
Where: I-94 in Billings, Montana


uberhumor.com
 
2012-05-10 10:12:53 PM

bunner: ArcadianRefugee: Pfft! Amateurs....

I've sent whole emails and posted photos to Facebook while driving.

So?


"Amateurs."

Or was that not clear the first time?
 
2012-05-10 10:13:49 PM
JaaVaa: Wow, it's amazing how riled up farkers get when you do young people things, you all sound fat and old. Sent: From my iPhone 4S!
Where: I-94 in Billings, Montana


I'm impressed. Weren't t you impressed? Certainly seems quite amazing and youthful. And it's an iPhone! You know what else gets sold as "young people things"? : )
 
2012-05-10 10:17:13 PM

ArcadianRefugee: bunner: ArcadianRefugee: Pfft! Amateurs....

I've sent whole emails and posted photos to Facebook while driving.

So?

"Amateurs."

Or was that not clear the first time?


Ohhhhhhh, perfectly. : ) I repeat.. So? Is your life such a meaningless chasm of drudgery that you think it's impressive to tell people whom you have never met that you type on a hockey puck while driving? I mean.. "So?" As in "Well, lah dee dah, sunshine". So. Fu*king. What?
 
2012-05-10 10:18:09 PM
Or was that not clear the first time?
 
2012-05-10 10:18:41 PM
Chattanooga, TN has the absolute worst drivers when it comes to signaling.
 
2012-05-10 10:20:06 PM

bunner: I used to design and tweak high end car audio for a company I named and which is, still, 30 years later, thriving. Lemme tell ya something about what a stereo is for. It's not to drive past people's homes at a 20 roll with your body panels rattling at the obligatory 70/30 ratio of sub bass to full range playback and it's not impress chicks or f*ck up your sense of balance by turning your cochlea into 40 Hz pudding. It's to.. and this is ANY audio system, ACCURATELY reproduce *exactly* that the mastering engineer signed off on in it's assigned listening area without distortion, frequency anomalies exaggerated response curves. If your stereo doesn't do that, your stereo sucks.


bears.jpg
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Back in high school, we were all impressed by the guys with 8 subs and two tweeters. Boom boom boom! When I built my sound system (in mom's car, of course), I had plenty of boom and all that pesky stuff above 80 Hz. 800 watts RMS of tuned and balanced music. One day, I was at a friend's house helping him install some new equipment when one of the Boom Boys stopped by. We cranked up my system and he was impressed. "Dude, that's amazing! It's like being at a concert!" Praise from Caesar.

Sadly, my audio systems aren't what they used to be. I was listening to some old tracks on my best pair of headphones last year and realized I couldn't even hear the bass. It's like it wasn't there. Plugged into my computer's audio system (which I thought was pretty good) and it was just a blatty, muddy mess. I literally had no way to properly listen to my bass-heavy music from back in the day. I've remedied the headphone problem somewhat but they're still a compromise. At least I can hear my bass again. I guess this is when I'm supposed to buy a Corvette and get a girlfriend half my age.
 
2012-05-10 10:21:16 PM

scottydoesntknow: I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving.


Wait... do people actually do that?
 
2012-05-10 10:25:50 PM

jtown: I guess this is when I'm supposed to buy a Corvette and get a girlfriend half my age.


Or a smoking DAT/DAC and some 96/24 masters, a pin fitted sub, some room treatments, a serious Blu Ray and pair of these.
 
xcv
2012-05-10 10:31:08 PM
Google's self-driving car technology can't get here fast enough.
 
2012-05-10 10:32:33 PM
I'm 23 and don't have my driver's license or a cell phone!

Fark your stats!
 
2012-05-10 10:38:59 PM

Ed Finnerty: mynameist: DUI laws will continue to be too harsh until penalties for using mobile devices become equal.

If you're really drunk and driving, just start texting and you'll never get pulled over.


It's not funny because it's true.

/okay maybe it's a little funny
 
2012-05-10 10:52:34 PM

bunner: ArcadianRefugee: bunner: ArcadianRefugee: Pfft! Amateurs....

I've sent whole emails and posted photos to Facebook while driving.

So?

"Amateurs."

Or was that not clear the first time?

Ohhhhhhh, perfectly. : ) I repeat.. So? Is your life such a meaningless chasm of drudgery that you think it's impressive to tell people whom you have never met that you type on a hockey puck while driving? I mean.. "So?" As in "Well, lah dee dah, sunshine". So. Fu*king. What?


You do know what website you are one, right? This isn't exactly the weekly online gathering of Mensa candidates.

Also, there is the ever-so-slight possibility that my original post was a joke.

Just thought I'd point that out.

[youcantreallybethatstupidcanyou.jpg]
 
2012-05-10 11:03:56 PM
I'm genuinely curious:

What exactly do you have to say to people that's so goddamn important that it can't possibly wait till you get wherever you're going? Whether you're talking or texting, unless you're Warren Buffett, what can you possibly need to say while driving down the highway that MUST be said right at that moment?

Seriously. What?
 
2012-05-10 11:11:02 PM
i never text while driving---never!!!!

it's too hard to hold my cocktail and drink while i drive as it is.
 
2012-05-10 11:12:35 PM

Gyrfalcon: I'm genuinely curious:

What exactly do you have to say to people that's so goddamn important that it can't possibly wait till you get wherever you're going? Whether you're talking or texting, unless you're Warren Buffett, what can you possibly need to say while driving down the highway that MUST be said right at that moment?

Seriously. What?


I'm on my way. be there in 5.
 
2012-05-10 11:18:52 PM

FizixJunkee: If you're in a car accident (severity is irrelevant) and you sent a text message within 2 minutes of the accident, you should be hit with a $5,000 fine, even if it's the first offense.


If you are driving a commercial motor vehicle you are subject to that fine without an accident. DOT now asks for your cellphone to check call and text messages when we get pulled over. Second offense is losing your CDL for a year. Same if you are caught with calls and no active bluetooth.

The ONLY reason this only applies to commercial vehicles is that we are subject to federal regs. Personal vehicles are regulated by states. But the DOT is going to force these rules on all drivers eventually by denying highway funds to noncompliant states just like they did with the drinking age years ago.
 
2012-05-10 11:23:52 PM
Got rear-ended by a texting teen in stop and go traffic last fall. No physical damage to me but but the car was farked up. 7k in repairs on a 7 yo car and six weeks in the shop. No text/sms is that important.
 
2012-05-10 11:30:48 PM

fluffy2097: Gyrfalcon: I'm genuinely curious:

What exactly do you have to say to people that's so goddamn important that it can't possibly wait till you get wherever you're going? Whether you're talking or texting, unless you're Warren Buffett, what can you possibly need to say while driving down the highway that MUST be said right at that moment?

Seriously. What?

I'm on my way. be there in 5.


Sex? Be there in 2.
 
2012-05-10 11:36:52 PM
I love fake problems ...

The total in the Highway Patrol study accounts for about 3 percent of all crashes during those three years. Various other studies link between 15 percent and 30 percent of all crashes to some sort of distraction, whether it's a conversation on a cell phone, whining children or ketchup dripping off a hamburger eaten on the go.

A survey by the NHTSA indicated the most common driving distraction is talking with passengers in the vehicle, followed by fiddling with the radio, eating and drinking, and using a cell phone. Dealing with kids in the back seat came up often, too. Ditto with personal grooming, such as applying lipstick and trimming whiskers.


By all means, ban cell phones and texting, but if you create a law that's designed to suppress only THREE PERCENT OF ALL DISTRACTED DRIVING ACCIDENTS, then you better be ready to ban your little brats, other people in the car, radios, food, drinking, GPS units, and other non-cell phone related activites that account for 97% OF ALL DISTRACTED DRIVING ACCIDENTS.

BTW, in 2009, 5,474 people died nationally in distraction-related crashes. This represents 16% of all fatal crashes. Of these crashes, 18% involved cell phone use. An additional 448,000 people were injured in such crashes. (Source: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration)

Statistics: please take your heads out of your ass and see, with pretty awesome clarity, the absolute idiocracy of trying to address distracted driving by taking cell phones out first ...
 
2012-05-10 11:40:39 PM

Gyrfalcon: I'm genuinely curious:

What exactly do you have to say to people that's so goddamn important that it can't possibly wait till you get wherever you're going? Whether you're talking or texting, unless you're Warren Buffett, what can you possibly need to say while driving down the highway that MUST be said right at that moment?

Seriously. What?


OMW BRT 10min hav $ rdy.
 
2012-05-10 11:44:03 PM
Any and all cell phone usage should equal permanent removal of driving privileges. This also goes to the douche bag who has the big gulp cup. or eating.
 
2012-05-10 11:48:29 PM

Gyrfalcon: But I don't like my insurance rates going up and up and up because dorks like you just HAVE to answer your phone every time your girlfriend needs to say "Honey? Do you still love me as much as you did five minutes ago?" even if you "only" get in a fender bender instead of suffering the horrible agonizing death you deserve.


It would be a much simpler world if they were the only reason insurance rates were going up. Those fender-benders people are getting into at 5-15 MPH can do frame damage which is an industry word for "fecking expensive".
 
2012-05-10 11:50:18 PM

invisbob: Any and all cell phone usage should equal permanent removal of driving privileges. This also goes to the douche bag who has the big gulp cup. or eating.


Or the prick with kids. Or someone else in the car. Or a radio. Or a GPS unit. Or vanity mirrors. Or cup holders. Sorry, you want this road, you have it in full or you have none of it. If you make something that statistically only accounts for 3% of all distracted driving accidents, you have to go full retard on the other 97% ... otherwise, you're just a pandering bastard that buys into the media circus that's swarmed this subject.

I'm sorry you're incapable of mufti-tasking like the rest of us, but don't let your failure in life be a burden on the other 97% of people you insufferable jackass.
 
2012-05-10 11:55:09 PM
On my 25 mile rural interstate commute, I see probably 10 people texting or fiddling with their phone every day.
8 out of 10 of those people are women.

The ironic thing is, I will probably die in a crash gawking at a hot woman texter
 
2012-05-11 12:06:05 AM
Nice highway speed head-on collision in my neighbourhood last week due to texting and driving. A dude fishing near the scene said he barely heard any braking... it happened that fast. Cops only found the leg of the deceased (non-texter) in her car; the rest of her had been launched into the woods.

/csb
 
2012-05-11 12:09:48 AM

seadoo2006: 'm sorry you're incapable of mufti-tasking like the rest of us, but don't let your failure in life be a burden on the other 97% of people you insufferable jackass.


No we can't multitask, but thanks for playing.

/silly people thinking they can think 2 thoughts at once, HA!
 
2012-05-11 12:13:30 AM

seadoo2006: I love fake problems ...

The total in the Highway Patrol study accounts for about 3 percent of all crashes during those three years. Various other studies link between 15 percent and 30 percent of all crashes to some sort of distraction, whether it's a conversation on a cell phone, whining children or ketchup dripping off a hamburger eaten on the go.

A survey by the NHTSA indicated the most common driving distraction is talking with passengers in the vehicle, followed by fiddling with the radio, eating and drinking, and using a cell phone. Dealing with kids in the back seat came up often, too. Ditto with personal grooming, such as applying lipstick and trimming whiskers.

By all means, ban cell phones and texting, but if you create a law that's designed to suppress only THREE PERCENT OF ALL DISTRACTED DRIVING ACCIDENTS, then you better be ready to ban your little brats, other people in the car, radios, food, drinking, GPS units, and other non-cell phone related activites that account for 97% OF ALL DISTRACTED DRIVING ACCIDENTS.

BTW, in 2009, 5,474 people died nationally in distraction-related crashes. This represents 16% of all fatal crashes. Of these crashes, 18% involved cell phone use. An additional 448,000 people were injured in such crashes. (Source: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration)

Statistics: please take your heads out of your ass and see, with pretty awesome clarity, the absolute idiocracy of trying to address distracted driving by taking cell phones out first ...


I would wager a guess as to why texting accounts for only 3% when compared to other causes here: Because it is probably much more common to have a passenger/kids in the car, change the radio, or be sipping grande nonfat double soy latte no whip than it is to be texting. One could reasonably assume that texting is responsible for a proportionally smaller number of accidents because not as many people do it.

What would be more compelling, though arguably more difficult to survey, would be the percentage of accidents among drivers who engage in each of the various activities. i.e. Of 2000 drivers who said they frequently drink coffee while driving, x% were involved in accidents which can be attributed to that activity.
 
2012-05-11 12:16:13 AM

seadoo2006: invisbob: Any and all cell phone usage should equal permanent removal of driving privileges. This also goes to the douche bag who has the big gulp cup. or eating.

Or the prick with kids. Or someone else in the car. Or a radio. Or a GPS unit. Or vanity mirrors. Or cup holders. Sorry, you want this road, you have it in full or you have none of it. If you make something that statistically only accounts for 3% of all distracted driving accidents, you have to go full retard on the other 97% ... otherwise, you're just a pandering bastard that buys into the media circus that's swarmed this subject.


I'm sorry you're incapable of mufti-tasking like the rest of us, but don't let your failure in life be a burden on the other 97% of people you insufferable jackass.



Welcome to Fark, much like the rest of the world, people don't understand reason, get outwhile you still can
 
2012-05-11 12:23:48 AM

invisbob: Any and all cell phone usage should equal permanent removal of driving privileges. This also goes to the douche bag who has the big gulp cup. or eating.


Lol. Driving must be really hard for some people.
 
2012-05-11 12:43:56 AM

seadoo2006: I love fake problems ...

The total in the Highway Patrol study accounts for about 3 percent of all crashes during those three years. Various other studies link between 15 percent and 30 percent of all crashes to some sort of distraction, whether it's a conversation on a cell phone, whining children or ketchup dripping off a hamburger eaten on the go.


If your data varies from 3% to 30%, it means the problem is insufficiently studied. Your article does not support the claim that phones are only responsible for 3% of accidents, because the 3% is raised with the assertion that it is an underreported figure (i.e. that as many as 12%-27% other accidents had distracted driving as a factor, but that this was not recognized from the Highway Patrol investigations at the time).

In any case, even if 3% of all accidents was the correct figure, that still does not mean "3% of all causes preventable by changing driver behavior". Besides, one of the most common driver-behavior factors, alcohol, is already being vigorously pursued, so it's not like laws going after cell phone users mean we're neglecting the rest of the picture.

A survey by the NHTSA indicated the most common driving distraction is talking with passengers in the vehicle, followed by fiddling with the radio, eating and drinking, and using a cell phone.

Is that a survey of most common causes of distracted driving accidents, or just the most frequent forms of distraction? Because if so, it fails to take into account the magnitude of the distraction. Other studies have shown that talking on a cell phone is more distracting than talking to passengers. (To be sure, those studies also show that talking on Bluetooth is just as distracting as holding the brick to your ear, so laws that allow hands-free headsets are retarded from a public-safety perspective. Look for the hands-free exceptions to disappear over the next decade.)

Also, texting is probably considerably less common than talking on the phone, but since it actually requires you to look away from the road, it can't help but be far more distracting.

Here's the thing. Most jurisdictions already have generic laws against "distracted driving", but they're difficult to enforce, because the judgment call involved is all too easy to be fought in court. Perhaps laws against calling or texting while driving should simply be written as "calling or texting while driving is prima facie evidence for distracted driving". (Maybe they are, I haven't actually reviewed the legal text of various cell-phone laws.)
 
2012-05-11 12:44:06 AM

seadoo2006: Statistics: please take your heads out of your ass and see, with pretty awesome clarity, the absolute idiocracy of trying to address distracted driving by taking cell phones out first ...


Not to mention concentrating on those that use cell phones or text while driving is bigoted, as it singles out the mentally handicapped.
 
2012-05-11 12:50:35 AM

Neondistraction: As long as you pay attention to what's going on around you, you don't even need to hear. Deaf people are perfectly capable drivers.


Deaf people are indeed capable drivers. Because they very much pay attention what's going on. They are simply more focused. Deafness doesn't mean distraction. If you can't hear what's around you, you better observe what's happening. Hearing your music or conversational partner via headphone or earplug doesn't mean you're deaf. You're somewhere in the distracted/absorbed range.

A few weeks ago I was in an Autobahn traffic jam. The guy behind me happily started to phone with a headset, presumably just to tell someone that he's in a traffic jam. He didn't even notice when an ambulance was behind him. He just blocked the lane.

Traffic is mutuality. I expect those who participate to accept rules. One of the most important should be to pass on selfish entertainment or communication, while maneuvering a ton of steel in public space.
 
2012-05-11 01:04:30 AM

Mithiwithi: Here's the thing. Most jurisdictions already have generic laws against "distracted driving", but they're difficult to enforce, because the judgment call involved is all too easy to be fought in court. Perhaps laws against calling or texting while driving should simply be written as "calling or texting while driving is prima facie evidence for distracted driving". (Maybe they are, I haven't actually reviewed the legal text of various cell-phone laws.)


Like Disorderly Conduct charges, it's a catch-all charge. It's actually more problematic to prove someone was texting at the moment of an incident that to make a charge of being distracted or inattentive stick.
 
2012-05-11 01:26:10 AM

Cheesus: /sometimes I wish I knew text-speak


If you've got an android, on the bottom left there is a microphone icon. If you press it, and with some training of your phone you can send texts without ever having to type.

Now you may ask, why not just call if you're going to talk. It's more about consideration of the person the message is going to. They can check texts on breaks or when they aren't driving, versus having to pick up the phone.
 
2012-05-11 01:43:09 AM

What_do_you_want_now: /silly people thinking they can think 2 thoughts at once, HA!


I can, but the left and right halves of my brain have been surgically severed to treat my incurable insanity.

needless to say it hasn't stopped the voices in my head.
 
2012-05-11 01:43:59 AM
Okay, I know this is Fark and all, and reading the article is not something you do, but the article doesn't support the "eight in 10" figure from their headline:

"almost half of them talked on a cellphone while driving during the past month, nearly 30 percent texted"

Maybe this is where the 80 percent came from?

"with 80 percent saying it was "very dangerous""
 
2012-05-11 01:44:58 AM

lewismarktwo: Lol. Driving must be really hard for some people.


It's a lot easier when you're not trying to stay in the lines. Or go the speed limit.
 
2012-05-11 02:12:39 AM
In the last ten years i have had 5 rear end crashes all from people texting or on cell. I drive about 15K a year. My wife in the same time has had 12 rear end crashes. She drives 8k per year and drives by a HS on her way to from work. Guess what all the teens were doing when the crashes happened? texting.


/One or two peoples experiences do not represent your results. You experience should differ.
 
2012-05-11 02:50:56 AM

cougar1701: In the last ten years i have had 5 rear end crashes all from people texting or on cell. I drive about 15K a year. My wife in the same time has had 12 rear end crashes. She drives 8k per year and drives by a HS on her way to from work. Guess what all the teens were doing when the crashes happened? texting.


/One or two peoples experiences do not represent your results. You experience should differ.


Calling bullshiat....
 
2012-05-11 02:53:02 AM
But not when I'm driving, you might rear end this dude's wife
 
2012-05-11 02:58:26 AM

cougar1701: In the last ten years i have had 5 rear end crashes all from people texting or on cell. I drive about 15K a year. My wife in the same time has had 12 rear end crashes. She drives 8k per year and drives by a HS on her way to from work. Guess what all the teens were doing when the crashes happened? texting.


/One or two peoples experiences do not represent your results. You experience should differ.


17 times? I don't believe this.

Texting while driving is as stupid as drunk driving, yet I don't believe you at all.
 
2012-05-11 03:04:00 AM

SoxSweepAgain: cougar1701: In the last ten years i have had 5 rear end crashes all from people texting or on cell. I drive about 15K a year. My wife in the same time has had 12 rear end crashes. She drives 8k per year and drives by a HS on her way to from work. Guess what all the teens were doing when the crashes happened? texting.


/One or two peoples experiences do not represent your results. You experience should differ.

17 times? I don't believe this.

Texting while driving is as stupid as drunk driving, yet I don't believe you at all.


Yeah, if that's accurate they must follow too close and break hard.
 
2012-05-11 03:18:48 AM
5 crashes in 10 years is once every 2 years

His wife has accidents about once every 11 months it seems.

This is way outside the statistical norm, but not impossible.

Cougar, do you and the missus work at a High School perchance?

Alternately, you both brake to hard and don't pay attention to how close people are following you.

/or a combination....
 
2012-05-11 04:29:16 AM
I can touch type on my phone's keyboard. I only have to glance down to read messages sent to me. Kind of hard for people to learn on a touch screen.
 
2012-05-11 04:53:20 AM

Tiiba: Dimensio: Incidents of "texting while driving" would likely decrease significantly were my proposal of imposing capital punishment for such an offense implemented.

The key is not severity, but consistency. Punishment must be immediate and guaranteed. Every phone must have a GPS tracker, and if any three distinct buttons are pressed in less than a minute when speed exceeds 10 MPH, the phone should brick itselfdetonate like a goddamn hand grenade next to the idiot's skull.


Fixed that for you. THAT's how you get jackasses to pay attention to something.
 
2012-05-11 05:30:09 AM

bunner: You know what? You can PRETEND that your whole f*cking life is a blithe social whirl that necessitates your being in constant touch with your amazingly interesting, just-like-the-people-on-TeeVee friends via ASCII or phone every breathless second of every ultra hip day, but you're still just sort of vain, ridiculous and typing on a hockey puck with your thumbs at 35 M.P.H. trying not to pow into somebody else on a second by second basis. And if you honestly can't see how laughable and lame and pretentious that is, at least try to hit an inanimate object when you finally sh*t the bed. Some people actually have lives and people who care about them enough to wait for them to get home.



bunner, I think that's the best post you've ever written.
 
2012-05-11 05:46:40 AM
they do that in Vietnam all the time on motorbikes, he do have a helmet and let the wife and 4-5 kids at home .. so not a normal photo

encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-05-11 06:10:02 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: You could institute the death penalty to people caught texting while driving and people will still do it.


What would stop it would be if insurance companies increased rates, or dropped coverage for those caught.
 
2012-05-11 06:50:44 AM

Cheesus: I text occasionally when I drive (because my wife doesn't understand how to farking call me when I'm driving). Usually takes me a while because I'll move my finger to where I think the letter is, glance down to make sure, then look back at the road. Rinse repeat for a couple minutes until I've got the message typed out. I'm not stupid enough to take my eyes off the road while I type out a sentence.

/sometimes I wish I knew text-speak
//then I smack myself for daring not to use proper English when I'm texting


Your wife may be trying to kill you.
 
2012-05-11 07:10:59 AM

ArcadianRefugee: You do know what website you are one, right? This isn't exactly the weekly online gathering of Mensa candidates.


The ghetto is how, not where you live.

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2012-05-11 09:25:51 AM
TEXTING WHILE DRIVING IS NOT THAT UNSAFE.



Seriously, people need to get a grip. I just read an article last week about how they want to ban all cell phone use in vehicles, including hands free.

It is SO incredibly ridiculous. Seriously. From a statistical standpoint. They cited 3,000 deaths related to cell phone/text use while driving.

Ok, so say 1/3 of the population drives. 100,000,000 drivers. 3,000 deaths? INCREDIBLY MINISCULE AMOUNT. Something like .00001%


Now, if you take into account the occurances of driving... as in most people probably drive at least once a day... so 100,000,000 times 365 days a year... you have a yearly chance of DUST to get into a fatal accident.

I actually researched lightning strikes. Approximately 400 people per year are struck by lightning. YOu're slightly more than 7 times as likely to be killed in a texting while driving accident as you are to be struck by lightning.

PEOPLE YOU NEED TO WAKE UP AND STOP LEGISLATING "SAFETY" AND REMOVING FREEDOM. YOU ARE BEING DECEIVED!!!!!
 
2012-05-11 09:56:32 AM

fluffy2097: scottydoesntknow: I can't stand seeing people using headphones while driving.

This is a thing? (beyond bluetooth headsets?)

Because I'm also quite positive it's highly illegal.


If that's "highly illegal", then I assume that deaf people are not allowed driver's licenses where you are?
 
2012-05-11 10:24:22 AM

Mr.BobDobalita: TEXTING WHILE DRIVING IS NOT THAT UNSAFE.


MY ASS.
 
2012-05-11 11:48:12 AM
USING THE BIG, BOLD, AND CAPSLOCK OPTIONS MAKE MY OPINION MORE VALID THEN YOURS!


You've forgotten to include accidents where texting was the cause but nobody died.
How many people per year are injured by people texting?
How many people are HIT by texters per year, but nobody is injured at all.
How many near misses are caused by people texting?
How much money do insurance companies pay out to repair the cars of people who were hit by texters?
 
2012-05-11 01:19:18 PM

fluffy2097: USING THE BIG, BOLD, AND CAPSLOCK OPTIONS MAKE MY OPINION MORE VALID THEN YOURS!


You've forgotten to include accidents where texting was the cause but nobody died.
How many people per year are injured by people texting?
How many people are HIT by texters per year, but nobody is injured at all.
How many near misses are caused by people texting?
How much money do insurance companies pay out to repair the cars of people who were hit by texters?


Less than 3% of all accidents in Ohio were caused by distracted driving of ANY type. Texting/Cell phone use is a minority component of that 3% with the majority being blamed on non-cell phone related accidents comprising of other people in the car, kids in the car, radios, GPS units, and eating/drinking.

That's from a Ohio State Highway Patrol study ... you'd think the cops would inflate their figures, but nope, this is purely a media shiatstorm/moral outrage story. Go pound sand.
 
2012-05-11 01:32:31 PM

seadoo2006: Less than 3% of all accidents in Ohio were caused by distracted driving of ANY type. Texting/Cell phone use is a minority component of that 3% with the majority being blamed on non-cell phone related accidents comprising of other people in the car, kids in the car, radios, GPS units, and eating/drinking.

That's from a Ohio State Highway Patrol study ... you'd think the cops would inflate their figures, but nope, this is purely a media shiatstorm/moral outrage story. Go pound sand.



You have answered none of my questions and lack any citations.
 
2012-05-11 01:48:03 PM

Mr.BobDobalita: They cited 3,000 deaths related to cell phone/text use while driving.


3,000 completely unnecessary deaths.

Put the pacifier down.
 
2012-05-11 04:37:22 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Mithiwithi: Here's the thing. Most jurisdictions already have generic laws against "distracted driving", but they're difficult to enforce, because the judgment call involved is all too easy to be fought in court. Perhaps laws against calling or texting while driving should simply be written as "calling or texting while driving is prima facie evidence for distracted driving". (Maybe they are, I haven't actually reviewed the legal text of various cell-phone laws.)

Like Disorderly Conduct charges, it's a catch-all charge. It's actually more problematic to prove someone was texting at the moment of an incident that to make a charge of being distracted or inattentive stick.


farking subpoenas of wireless carrier records, how do they work?

seadoo2006: Texting/Cell phone use is a minority component of that 3% with the majority being blamed on non-cell phone related accidents comprising of other people in the car, kids in the car, radios, GPS units, and eating/drinking.


You still haven't addressed the fact that cell-phone related accidents are the plurality of distracted driving accidents. Some other forms of distraction are more common, but they cause fewer accidents because they aren't as impairing as talking or texting on a cell phone.
 
2012-05-11 06:24:44 PM

Mithiwithi: farking subpoenas of wireless carrier records, how do they work?


You how long those can take for a municipal citation? And say someone was writing a text and it never sent or the person deleted it. No record and no proof; law enforcement will happily stick with inattentive driving.
 
2012-05-14 02:14:42 AM

basemetal: You should suspend their license as well as forbid them a cell phone for a year. That'll hurt em worse than anything.

/get a land line, biatch


This, though it may be difficult to enforce if they try getting a disposable phone. Maybe you need to be over 18 and prove it to buy them?
 
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