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(Think Progress)   Tea Party-backed candidate who defeated Dick Lugar (R-IN) in GOP Senate primary says that bipartisanship is "Democrats coming to the Republican point of view"   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 129
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2012-05-10 04:51:25 PM
What a nice fellow.

Enjoy your 6 months of Koch subsidized derp until Joe Donnelly wipes what's left of you off the bottom of his shoe.
 
2012-05-10 04:52:10 PM
Who didn't know this already? Unless you've been in a coma for 10 years, this isn't news.
 
2012-05-10 04:55:32 PM
This is gonna be fun.
 
2012-05-10 04:55:43 PM
It will be nice having the majority in both houses back.
 
2012-05-10 04:59:54 PM

Diogenes: It will be nice having the majority in both houses back.


Do you think the GOP will back off if Obama gets his second term? That would mean their goal had failed.

I think, if he wins and they keep the house, we'll see impeachment proceedings.

But I am so so so so so sick of this crap from Team GOP. So are more and more people. I hope they all go out and vote in November.
 
2012-05-10 05:02:15 PM

Diogenes: It will be nice having the majority in both houses back.


See, that's what's wrong with the Democrats: it's not good enough to hold the House & Senate; you need to hold the legislatures and governorships of as many states as you can. The GOP has figured this out, but I don't think the Dems have.

/School boards, councils, mayors, etc. too if you can.
 
2012-05-10 05:10:30 PM
You're parsing words, subby, and it's not very becoming of you. But, OK, I'll bite. See, when you've got one side of the political spectrum that's basically composed of far-left socialist-leaning communist fascists who want to cripple capitalism and outlaw oil, redistribute American wealth to Welfare Queens and illegal immigrants, and re-write the American constitution to outlaw guns and enshrine the Gay Agenda as the law of the land, and you've got the other side believing in sensible regulation, real-world energy policy, and a thoughtful overhaul of an outdated tax code, "bipartisanship" itself is an unbalanced equation.

It helps if you imagine a spectrum. In the center of the spectrum is a zero, which represents true, reasonable bipartisanship. Now, you can more right, and you can move left. The right, in our case, is very, very close to the center already because of their reasonable, sensible views. So they're maybe at a 4 on the scale. The left, though, has become so radicalized that they're way out there at like negative 23.

So now, think about political "compromise" as movement on this spectrum. Each concession is equal to one point. See, the right only has 2 or 3 notches to go before they actually cross over into the left. For example, if they give up 2 points and the left gives up 2 points, the right is now at +2 but the left is still at -21. How is that a reasonable compromise? That's like saying that it's "reasonable" for everybody in America to pay exactly the same dollar amount in taxes. Is that fair, asking the man worth 220 million dollars to pay exactly the same sum as the man with $20 to his name? Of course it's not, and you'd be stupid to think otherwise.

In the same way, it's completely unreasonable to expect the right to "give up" as much in any compromise or bipartisan discussion as the left. Every point the right makes, because of their low rank on the spectrum, is worth at least 8 or 9 leftist points. So when someone talks about "democrats coming around to a republican point of view," it's really just about making the playing field more level. More equitable. More, in the end, bipartisan.

I hope you can take some of this to heart, because our nation needs real understanding right now.
 
2012-05-10 05:19:50 PM

Nadie_AZ: Diogenes: It will be nice having the majority in both houses back.

Do you think the GOP will back off if Obama gets his second term? That would mean their goal had failed.

I think, if he wins and they keep the house, we'll see impeachment proceedings.

But I am so so so so so sick of this crap from Team GOP. So are more and more people. I hope they all go out and vote in November.


Surprisingly, proud and admitted racist Grandma had an interesting point on this. "You mean to tell me after 4 years this is the best they could do to get that ni*bong out of office?"

I think they'll do a repeat. Waste their time and energy trying to thwart the President when they should be working on a decent candidate for 2016. I don't think they have the balls to try something like impeachment.

They made a huge tactical error. Dedicated all their resources to making Obama look bad while dedicating none to better initiatives of their own or better candidates to serve as realistic alternatives.
 
2012-05-10 05:26:14 PM
"Bipartianship" to the GOP means not having Democrats in any elected office whatsoever. And they'll do whatever it takes to ensure that happens.
 
2012-05-10 05:27:04 PM

Pocket Ninja: I hope you can take some of this to heart, because our nation needs real understanding right now.


I'll keep a bite count. I'll probably need to take off my shoes.
 
2012-05-10 05:32:21 PM

Diogenes: They made a huge tactical error. Dedicated all their resources to making Obama look bad while dedicating none to better initiatives of their own or better candidates to serve as realistic alternatives.


Boehner's statement this morning that he didn't care about the President's stance on gay marriage, because he was focusing on creating jobs just left me stunned.

I wish we had a media that would put their feet to the fire and challenge them.
 
2012-05-10 05:38:26 PM

Nadie_AZ: Diogenes: They made a huge tactical error. Dedicated all their resources to making Obama look bad while dedicating none to better initiatives of their own or better candidates to serve as realistic alternatives.

Boehner's statement this morning that he didn't care about the President's stance on gay marriage, because he was focusing on creating jobs just left me stunned.

I wish we had a media that would put their feet to the fire and challenge them.


Jobs and submitting clean bills. Both were promised and both never materialized.
 
2012-05-10 05:38:26 PM

Nadie_AZ: I wish we had a media that would put their feet to the fire and challenge them.


it'll never happen.

1) the media is heavily pro-GOP
2) the media is "balanced," meaning they air GOP statements, however false, verbatim and unchallenged
3) if they ever did tell the truth, they'd be excoriated for being "liberal"
 
2012-05-10 05:54:39 PM
Sadly, he's exactly right, though probably not quite in the way he meant it.
 
2012-05-10 05:57:02 PM
fark this asshole sideways with a spiked iron stick.

It's going to be hilarious watching the Democrats pick up this seat because teabaggers are too smart farking stupid for their own good.
 
2012-05-10 05:57:10 PM
This is my surprised face--

: |
 
2012-05-10 05:57:46 PM
But don't forget it's the Dems who are really dividing America.

Yeesh.
 
2012-05-10 05:58:27 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat:

/School boards, councils, mayors, etc. too if you can.


alltheragefaces.com
 
2012-05-10 05:59:25 PM
And then the Republicans stating that their previous position is Sochulism! and refusing to support it any longer.
 
2012-05-10 06:00:43 PM
Amusing tag, subby? Really?
 
2012-05-10 06:01:55 PM
I beg you tea derpers, keep it up. Let the country implode. Dance with glee as the whole farking thing burns. Then we can purge you, having generations blame your miserable hate filled ideology for farking us all over. After their done picking up the pieces you'll wish you caved a little on taxes and gay marriage because these niche social issues will be the least of the blow back. Your are going to be totally disenfranchised.
 
2012-05-10 06:03:01 PM
Nice to get them to admit it openly once in a while.
 
2012-05-10 06:08:17 PM
And this is why democrats should not compromise at ALL with republicans.
 
2012-05-10 06:09:01 PM

AntiNerd: Nice to get them to admit it openly once in a while.


Dim people have trouble using dog whistles.
 
2012-05-10 06:09:16 PM

Pocket Ninja: You're parsing words, subby, and it's not very becoming of you. But, OK, I'll bite. See, when you've got one side of the political spectrum that's basically composed of far-left socialist-leaning communist fascists who want to cripple capitalism and outlaw oil, redistribute American wealth to Welfare Queens and illegal immigrants, and re-write the American constitution to outlaw guns and enshrine the Gay Agenda as the law of the land, and you've got the other side believing in sensible regulation, real-world energy policy, and a thoughtful overhaul of an outdated tax code, "bipartisanship" itself is an unbalanced equation.


Oh damn that's just gold right there!
 
2012-05-10 06:17:59 PM

Pocket Ninja: You're parsing words, subby, and it's not very becoming of you. But, OK, I'll bite. See, when you've got one side of the political spectrum that's basically composed of far-left socialist-leaning communist fascists who want to cripple capitalism and outlaw oil, redistribute American wealth to Welfare Queens and illegal immigrants, and re-write the American constitution to outlaw guns and enshrine the Gay Agenda as the law of the land, and you've got the other side believing in sensible regulation, real-world energy policy, and a thoughtful overhaul of an outdated tax code, "bipartisanship" itself is an unbalanced equation.

It helps if you imagine a spectrum. In the center of the spectrum is a zero, which represents true, reasonable bipartisanship. Now, you can more right, and you can move left. The right, in our case, is very, very close to the center already because of their reasonable, sensible views. So they're maybe at a 4 on the scale. The left, though, has become so radicalized that they're way out there at like negative 23.

So now, think about political "compromise" as movement on this spectrum. Each concession is equal to one point. See, the right only has 2 or 3 notches to go before they actually cross over into the left. For example, if they give up 2 points and the left gives up 2 points, the right is now at +2 but the left is still at -21. How is that a reasonable compromise? That's like saying that it's "reasonable" for everybody in America to pay exactly the same dollar amount in taxes. Is that fair, asking the man worth 220 million dollars to pay exactly the same sum as the man with $20 to his name? Of course it's not, and you'd be stupid to think otherwise.

In the same way, it's completely unreasonable to expect the right to "give up" as much in any compromise or bipartisan discussion as the left. Every point the right makes, because of their low rank on the spectrum, is worth at least 8 or 9 leftist points. So when someone talks about "democrats ...


From now on, whenever I can do a write-in vote, I am going to write in "Pocket Ninja". Because if we ALL did that, the world would be a much more.... uhhhh... it would be.....

OK so maybe I'm not going to do that. But I like the idea.
 
2012-05-10 06:30:43 PM

FlashHarry: Nadie_AZ: I wish we had a media that would put their feet to the fire and challenge them.

it'll never happen.

1) the media is heavily pro-GOP
2) the media is "balanced," meaning they air GOP statements, however false, verbatim and unchallenged
3) if they ever did tell the truth, they'd be excoriated for being "liberal"


4) it is in their financial interest to keep the status quo of politics
 
2012-05-10 06:31:47 PM
Partisan ship is fine. That's why we have political parties. But the problem now is not partisanship on just ideological principles. We now have partisanship for partisanship's sake, on things they would probably otherwise agree upon. Congressional Democrats support Obama for doing things they had or would have opposed Bush for doing and Republicans oppose Obama for doing things that they supported Bush for doing.
 
2012-05-10 06:34:49 PM

DORMAMU: FlashHarry: Nadie_AZ: I wish we had a media that would put their feet to the fire and challenge them.

it'll never happen.

1) the media is heavily pro-GOP
2) the media is "balanced," meaning they air GOP statements, however false, verbatim and unchallenged
3) if they ever did tell the truth, they'd be excoriated for being "liberal"

4) it is in their financial interest to keep the status quo of politics


Almost forgot 5) any reporter who did would get black listed by politicians and ignored preventing him/her from completibg any interviews
 
2012-05-10 06:37:28 PM
Thanks for the free Senate seat, Indiana! And thanks for taking the most senior Republican out of the picture. We appreciate it.

Sincerely, the Democratic Party

/P.S. We can't thank you enough for putting up that nimrod teabagger; it makes winning that seat even easier and we can spend some money that we would have on fighting Lugar in other places. So, again, thanks!
 
2012-05-10 06:38:16 PM

Warlordtrooper: And this is why democrats should not compromise at ALL with republicans.


Yes, that's the spirit! "Not gonna compromise, eh? Well... we'll show you! WE'RE not gonna compromise with YOU! So THERE!"

In other words, think before you post, lest you say something idiotic.
 
2012-05-10 06:41:02 PM

Diogenes: What a nice fellow.

Enjoy your 6 months of Koch subsidized derp until Joe Donnelly wipes what's left of you off the bottom of his shoe.


I dunno. I'm scared that he may just appeal to enough retards to pull it off.

How long till these cretins actually start demanding the rounding up and gassing of the poor? You know that's what they want to do, so very bad.
 
2012-05-10 06:42:44 PM

Diogenes: It will be nice having the majority in both houses back.


And without Joe Lieberman around by then to one-man monkeywrench things up like he loves to do, we may actually see our country move forward again.
 
2012-05-10 06:42:57 PM
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2012-05-10 06:44:04 PM
Two-party systems suck. The entire process needs to be modernized.
 
2012-05-10 06:45:21 PM
You know who else wanted everyone come come around to their way of thinking?

www.bwafer.com
 
2012-05-10 06:46:25 PM
Serious question: is there any chance Dick Luger will run as an independent? I suppose that still helps the Democrat, but considering how much Luger usually wins by, he just might still come out on top in a three-way race.
 
2012-05-10 06:49:11 PM

TV's Vinnie: Diogenes: It will be nice having the majority in both houses back.

And without Joe Lieberman around by then to one-man monkeywrench things up like he loves to do, we may actually see our country move forward again.


Forward? You mean off the cliff right? Only the strong, burly, protective arms of our Republican saviors are keeping us from plummeting into a socialist dictatorship. Communist 9/11 America, flag freedom lockbox. Typical libs.
 
2012-05-10 06:52:41 PM
That'll win you that moderate vote.
 
2012-05-10 06:53:26 PM
The tone of what he's saying is so out of place for a member of a major political party in a Democracy or Republic that I honestly have a hard time believing it. This isn't some jackass from Podunk, Nowhere running for some seat in the state legislature in a county nobody has heard of unless they live in or next to it. He's nominated to be a member of the farking Senate!

I'm not trying to Godwin here, but frankly reading his quotes they wouldn't have been terribly far out of place coming from a legally elected member of the Nazi Party in the mid-1930s. Not doing anything wrong per say and certainly not saying anything illegal, but completely wrong for society. He's running to be the Senator of a state with plenty of Democrats...enough for the state to have gone for Obama 4 years ago. Is he honestly saying all those voters should get in line with his beliefs or fark off?

The problem with this country isn't that people think the way this guy does. It's the fact so many people agree with him they are nominating him for the Senate. Seriously, what in the fark, Indiana??
 
2012-05-10 06:53:58 PM

Pocket Ninja: You're parsing words, subby, and it's not very becoming of you. But, OK, I'll bite. See, when you've got one side of the political spectrum that's basically composed of far-left socialist-leaning communist fascists who want to cripple capitalism and outlaw oil, redistribute American wealth to Welfare Queens and illegal immigrants, and re-write the American constitution to outlaw guns and enshrine the Gay Agenda as the law of the land, and you've got the other side believing in sensible regulation, real-world energy policy, and a thoughtful overhaul of an outdated tax code, "bipartisanship" itself is an unbalanced equation....


You know, I really wanted to take you seriously, but then I noticed you don't know what "parsing words" mean, and then when I got to "far-left socialist-leaning communist fascists", I realized you're just on full diarrhea mouth.

Ideological differences aside, you're using terms that are beyond your vocabulary, and it's not very becoming of you.

Please, bite.
 
2012-05-10 06:56:32 PM

Eunuch Provocateur: Pocket Ninja: You're parsing words, subby, and it's not very becoming of you. But, OK, I'll bite. See, when you've got one side of the political spectrum that's basically composed of far-left socialist-leaning communist fascists who want to cripple capitalism and outlaw oil, redistribute American wealth to Welfare Queens and illegal immigrants, and re-write the American constitution to outlaw guns and enshrine the Gay Agenda as the law of the land, and you've got the other side believing in sensible regulation, real-world energy policy, and a thoughtful overhaul of an outdated tax code, "bipartisanship" itself is an unbalanced equation....

You know, I really wanted to take you seriously, but then I noticed you don't know what "parsing words" mean, and then when I got to "far-left socialist-leaning communist fascists", I realized you're just on full diarrhea mouth.

Ideological differences aside, you're using terms that are beyond your vocabulary, and it's not very becoming of you.

Please, bite.


You just bit. Sorry man.
 
2012-05-10 06:56:39 PM

DeltaPunch: Serious question: is there any chance Dick Luger will run as an independent? I suppose that still helps the Democrat, but considering how much Luger usually wins by, he just might still come out on top in a three-way race.


None. He not only flat out said he wouldn't, but also congratulated this cocksucker on winning the nomination and said he supported him despite also stating he disagrees with almost everything the guy says and stands for.
 
2012-05-10 06:58:24 PM

DeltaPunch: Serious question: is there any chance Dick Luger will run as an independent? I suppose that still helps the Democrat, but considering how much Luger usually wins by, he just might still come out on top in a three-way race.


No, it ain't gonna happen.

And don't dismiss this fellow Murdock. It is very possible he will win, since Rmoney is expected to carry Indiana. And Hoosier Governor Mitch Daniels is still largely popular with the Republicans.
 
2012-05-10 07:00:31 PM

Eunuch Provocateur: Pocket Ninja: You're parsing words, subby, and it's not very becoming of you. But, OK, I'll bite. See, when you've got one side of the political spectrum that's basically composed of far-left socialist-leaning communist fascists who want to cripple capitalism and outlaw oil, redistribute American wealth to Welfare Queens and illegal immigrants, and re-write the American constitution to outlaw guns and enshrine the Gay Agenda as the law of the land, and you've got the other side believing in sensible regulation, real-world energy policy, and a thoughtful overhaul of an outdated tax code, "bipartisanship" itself is an unbalanced equation....

You know, I really wanted to take you seriously, but then I noticed you don't know what "parsing words" mean, and then when I got to "far-left socialist-leaning communist fascists", I realized you're just on full diarrhea mouth.

Ideological differences aside, you're using terms that are beyond your vocabulary, and it's not very becoming of you.

Please, bite.


Why do you hate wisdom? is it because of the elegance with which it is conveyed?
 
2012-05-10 07:01:21 PM
Consider yourself heavy on the Eunuch and light on the Provocateur
 
2012-05-10 07:02:56 PM
The Party of F**k You strikes again.

/and again, and again, and again.....
 
2012-05-10 07:04:55 PM

quatchi: But don't forget it's the Dems who are really dividing America.

Yeesh.


And 99% of the "independents" (not Fark Independents) will still be completely clueless tomorrow. I honestly believe that most of the people that call themselves independents do so because they spend most of their time watching Dancing With the Washouts and remain politically clueless. As such they are the dimwits that get easily manipulated each election cycle by whatever team manipulates them better. George W Bush did not serve, John Kerry VOLUNTEERED for action, yet in the end who was the "coward"? Might I remind everyone that this was not a new tactic by any means, Nixon did the same thing to George McGovern (another man who by all means qualifies to be called a hero for his actions as a pilot in WWII, a man who saved the lives of his crew).

So our wonderful democracy comes down to 1/3 being complete ignorant retards, and another 1/3 who can't name the VP but do know who got voted off idiot island last night, and another 1/3 who vote because the other side are just assholes and they have no other choice.

Said it before, say it again. We need as a society to re-think the idea of democracy. If people want to participate them make them become informed citizens. Make people prove through a standard test that they know the issues. Why should anyone who has bothered to educate themselves on foreign policy have their voted basically negated by inbreds?

Just think how elections would be then when parties could no longer rely on manipulating the ignorant and stupid and had to actually debate policies instead of platitudes and sound bites?
 
2012-05-10 07:10:54 PM
Pocket Ninja, you are a freakin' genius! I'm a big fan of your work, and it's good to see you warming up for the full on election craziness. I look forward to much entertainment in the coming months.
 
2012-05-10 07:11:18 PM
Please, for the love of FSM... Dem candidates, do *NOT* coakley this election!

...Please...
 
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