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2012-05-10 12:21:55 PM  
22 votes:
That has nothing to do with being "mom enough." All of the natural protections of breastmilk RUN OUT when the kid starts developing their own immune system at six months.

You're still breastfeeding because your kid still wants to and because you still want a child to breastfeed. Don't hop up on a pedestal and pretend like you're some sort of super mom for doing that.
2012-05-10 05:25:45 PM  
11 votes:
I think HappyPlace summed it up correctly: If Time Magazine's new cover was honest

static.happyplace.com
2012-05-10 12:31:34 PM  
7 votes:
Surely there's no chance this kid will rue the day this photo was published.
2012-05-10 12:26:59 PM  
6 votes:
She is pretty hot. But the crazy runs hot too.
2012-05-10 05:06:20 PM  
5 votes:

RodneyToady: The My Little Pony Killer: Don't hop up on a pedestal and pretend like you're some sort of super mom for doing that.

I don't think she's on a pedestal. The kid seems to be on a chair, though.

/takes things literally


You should give them back then.
2012-05-11 12:57:38 AM  
4 votes:

Relatively Obscure: Surely there's no chance this kid will rue the day this photo was published.


That picture is going to be plastered on everything that kid owns now through his entire school and work career.
2012-05-10 08:56:52 PM  
4 votes:
A few notes (although I don't know WHY I'm bothering, as this is Fark, after all...):

First off, those who nurse toddlers don't nurse them in the same way they would nurse an infant. Most of the time if a toddler is still nursing past the age of about 1 (sometime 18 months), all they're doing is taking a little nip for naptime & bedtime. And if they get hurt or really scared or something like that, they may want a little nip. It's not any different from the way that lots of toddlers will use a pacifier. But they ARE still getting some advantages from breastfeeding. If a child is sick with a stomach bug, sometimes breastmilk is the only food they can keep down. And they DO still get immunities from breastmilk, even after 24 months or longer. AND when compared to a pacifier (because it's not a "bottle" at the age of 2 but a "pacifier"), the breast is much better from an orthodontic standpoint. Plus, the fact that they have to wait for Mom to breastfeed means that they're usually MORE likely to self-wean from the breast than the pacifier.

Second, it seems to me that there IS a limit, although I wouldn't put it as low as most of the Farkers do, and I wouldn't declare it a hard and fast limit. If you look at extended breastfeeding like a "pacifier", then it makes sense that while most babies would probably wean by about the age of 3, you would probably start working on weaning them after they turn 3 but before they turn 4. BUT, there are different babies & different circumstances. A baby that was 3 months premature is going to be developmentally delayed anyway, so extended breastfeeding could be a tremendous blessing. A child with special medical needs might need some extra time before weaning. And then there's the issue that frankly, you don't know what's going on in a child's life.

A month before my youngest turned 2, his Daddy (who he was VERY close to)left for basic training; it was the first time they had been away from each other for more than a night. Then we had his older brother develop some medical problems which took a LOT of our attention, then we took a week-long trip (involving flights, connections, hotels, etc.) to go see his Daddy graduate BCT. Then about a month after that, we took ANOTHER week-long trip (this time leaving him with his grandmother) because his father's grandmother died and we had to go to the funeral. Now, we're expecting a new baby in less than a month, followed by a move about 6 weeks later. He still uses the pacifier for nights and bedtimes. I am not ABOUT to take that away right now, just like I'm not going to try potty-training. Frankly, he's got enough crazy adjustments and changes to face in his life without me taking away his comfort object; I'll start weaning him off the pacifier about 2-3 months AFTER the move, when things in his life are less hectic. Now in this case, it's a pacifier, and he's not even 3 yet, but the point stands. What if Mom INTENDED to wean around the age of 3, and then because of a death in the family, a move, a new baby, etc. - and things happened and she decided that it was better to let him keep nursing until all the chaos in other areas of his life settled down. My point here is that you don't always know the circumstances.

TL;DR Version:

1: People who nurse toddlers don't nurse for nutrition as much as for comfort. Instead of thinking of it as a "bottle", think of it more as a "pacifier."
2: There are some very real benefits to extended breastfeeding. These benefits are REALLY important in third-world nations where food supplies are limited and disease is rampant, but there are still benefits even in the U.S.
3: You don't know the circumstances of every family. There may be very good reasons for extended breastfeeding in a particular situation.
4: There IS a limit, but it's not nearly as low as what most Farkers would say. I would probably say that under NORMAL circumstances, my (admittedly non-scientific) perspective is that in first-world nations, if the baby doesn't self-wean by the age of 3, it's time to start getting him weaned before the 4th birthday. But that's just my OPINION and in no way is based in fact.

/Breastfed 4 children
//About to breastfeed #5
///I've always had problems with milk supply around 4-6 months, so the longest I've breastfed was about 8 months
////Wish I knew what was wrong with my milk supply. :(
2012-05-10 05:07:26 PM  
4 votes:
This seems to be more for the benefit of the mother than of the child.
2012-05-10 04:36:32 PM  
4 votes:

Somacandra: The My Little Pony Killer: All of the natural protections of breastmilk RUN OUT when the kid starts developing their own immune system at six months.

O'RLY? That must be why the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends breastmilk until at least 1 year old and as long as both mom and baby want it.


I don't know about much of that, but the statement that breastfeeding reduces the incidence of allergy is bullshiat. In fact, prolonged breastfeeding increases the risk of asthma and allergies. Studies have repeatedly shown that dietary restrictions during pregnancy, lactation, and infancy do not decrease the risk of food allergies. In countries where peanuts are restricted for the first 3 years of life, the rate of peanut allergy is ten-fold higher than in countries where the are introduced early on after controlling for genetic and socio-economic factors.

I hate breastfeeding nazis

/board certified in Allergy and Immunology
2012-05-10 03:23:50 PM  
4 votes:

Nadie_AZ: The My Little Pony Killer: That has nothing to do with being "mom enough." All of the natural protections of breastmilk RUN OUT when the kid starts developing their own immune system at six months.

What are you talking about?

In our hunter-gatherer ancestors, who had no knowledge of or access to other forms of contraception, frequent and prolonged breastfeeding by day and by night resulted in children being born about 4 years apart, and appropriate introduction of modern forms of contraception. Even to this day, breastfeeding still prevents more births in most developing countries than all modern forms of contraception

Link


Yes, they told my wife and I all about that when we had to take classes about natural family planning before we got married in the Catholic Church, and I can tell you, that method is not fool-proof. I know some folks who have had "Irish twins" thinking that was effective.
2012-05-10 02:35:17 PM  
4 votes:

Rev. Skarekroe: That kid is going to get his ass kicked for this some day.


What's worse is all his friends are going to want to have sex with his mom.

I know I do.
2012-05-10 12:46:07 PM  
4 votes:
images.wikia.com
2012-05-10 12:41:10 PM  
4 votes:

Lorelle: One of my aunts breastfed all 5 of her kids until they were age 4. All of said kids are now adults and married with kids of their own. All are college graduates; one is a teacher, another is a doctor.

I have no idea if any of my female cousins breastfed their kids.


Do they teach correlation vs. causation in college?
2012-05-10 12:28:44 PM  
4 votes:
MILFtastic...but creepy.
2012-05-10 07:16:38 PM  
3 votes:
Ever notice how the overwhelming majority of these wackos have sons, not daughters?

Yep, definitely no issues there.
2012-05-10 05:16:30 PM  
3 votes:
At what point does it cease to be about providing nourishment and become molestation?
2012-05-10 05:14:25 PM  
3 votes:

Lorelle: Speaker2Animals: Do they teach correlation vs. causation in college?

I'm not suggesting that breastfeeding your kids will make them college grads (my mom didn't breastfeed me or my brothers. All three of us attended college; two of us have degrees); I posted that to show that breastfeeding your kids until age 4 won't necessarily warp your kids for life.


Doesn't make it any less farked up. It's not necessarily about the effect on the kid, it's about being a complete loon as a parent. Who the fark gives their 4 year old a bottle? If you wouldn't give them a bottle, don't give them the tit.
2012-05-10 06:51:03 PM  
2 votes:

ace in your face: I already stated that I breast fed until I was 3. I am not deranged nor do I remember it in any way. My mom is a normal loving mother who didn't want to cut me off but at 3 she decided it was enough. I've read about this topic, and even children who breastfeed until they are 5 or 6 don't really remember it later. It is a comfort to the child. Most people who are breastfeeding past 1 arentdoing it for the nutrition or for their own selfishness but because it is a comfort to their child. I think you are way too freaked out about it. I think it's weird. I think the people are a little out of touch. I don't think it's the right way to do things. but I certainly don't think that most people who do it have a psychological problem. (the biatch who did it on. The cover of time I exclude from the previous statement).


I'm willing to admit that my 'limit' may be extreme in some cases and that I may have had a knee-jerk reaction, but there is still something seriously wrong with breastfeeding past an age where the kid is fully talking, potty-trained, and in the case of the woman in TFA, where the kid is probably already attending kindergarten. That is far beyond the pale. There are plenty of things that comfort a child that should not be continued ad-nauseum. Some parents bring their kid into their bed in infancy to 'calm' them... that is a terrible idea. You aren't calming them as much as you are taking the easy way out. Calming your child can involve indulging every whim they have... that's an awful justification for doing so. My daughter loved her 'binky', but that shiat farks up your teeth, so we had to get her off it. Calming her would mean continuing to give it to her... the result, farked up teeth. Parenting is hard. It isn't about always comforting your child.

/I hope that didn't come off as angry... it wasn't meant that way
2012-05-10 05:58:58 PM  
2 votes:
Odd? In developed areas, sure. Creepy? Not if you know that many cultures breastfeed for two to three years.

But I forgot this is Fark:

PEOPLE STOP DOING THINGS I DON'T DO

THE UNFAMILIAR SCARES ME

SHARP KNEES
2012-05-10 05:47:03 PM  
2 votes:

Nadie_AZ: The My Little Pony Killer: That has nothing to do with being "mom enough." All of the natural protections of breastmilk RUN OUT when the kid starts developing their own immune system at six months.

What are you talking about?

In our hunter-gatherer ancestors, who had no knowledge of or access to other forms of contraception, frequent and prolonged breastfeeding by day and by night resulted in children being born about 4 years apart, and appropriate introduction of modern forms of contraception. Even to this day, breastfeeding still prevents more births in most developing countries than all modern forms of contraception

Link


Yeah, farking bullshiat. There's nothing biological preventing conception while breastfeeding, at all. The only mechanism at work there would be her telling him to fark off for a farking minute and him sticking it elsewhere in the meantime.
2012-05-10 05:44:39 PM  
2 votes:

ace in your face: theknuckler_33: meat0918: I just need to say, Dr. Sears is this generations Dr. Spock, and it will turn out just as well as all his advice did.

FWIW, I haven't seen anything to indicate that Dr. Sears advocates breast feeding into toddlerhood.

/didn't do a lot of research though

I'm under the impression that sears is into baby led weaning, which can mean till whenever the fark they want. I don't have a cite for it I just have yipster friends who are into it.


I'm not some kind of Sears advocate, but I'll take that claim with a grain of salt for now. If it turns out to be true, I'm pretty skeptical of that approach. Maybe I'm an exception, but parenting doesn't seem like rocket science to me. Keep them healthy, start early on motor skills and education, spend a lot of time with them, lots of hugs and I-love-you's, be consistent with discipline, and if you are a two parent household... show a united front and don't fight in front of the kids. When the kid has a basic set of teeth, time for regular food.
2012-05-10 05:33:33 PM  
2 votes:
She also has an adopted 5 year old that still breastfeeds as well. By the way, he's black. Hmmmmm, wonder why Time didn't him on the cover?
2012-05-10 05:28:57 PM  
2 votes:
That's farking foul.

Any woman breast feeding a toddler isn't doing it for the child's benefit.

And way to fark your kid over for some fleeting attention whoring.
2012-05-10 05:26:34 PM  
2 votes:

theknuckler_33: You are farked up. Seriously.


Do what you will with your kids. Mine breast feed for about a year and a half. I am on neither side of the issue. Oddly all the kids turned out well. Oddly, some parents go overboard, it is natural. But if their kids grow up okay, who says they are wrong.
2012-05-10 05:23:31 PM  
2 votes:
If they're old enough to ask for it, they're too old.
2012-05-10 05:16:05 PM  
2 votes:
Breast feeding?

Looks like a light snack at best.
2012-05-10 05:14:08 PM  
2 votes:

Babwa Wawa: Do what you want. Don't be an overbearing coont.

I see normally open-minded women just tear into each other over their child-rearing practices. The first few times I saw it, I was taken aback by its viciousness. Now it seems normal to me.

Never seen a good explanation for it, though.


Ever watch a group of older female chimpanzees run a fellow female out of the pack?

Same dynamic. It's sad to witness.

I've seen long term friendships dissolve in minutes between women that differed in child rearing practices.

I swear, if women could stop doing that to each other, they'd rule the freaking world overnight.
2012-05-10 05:09:57 PM  
2 votes:
If you think Attachment Parenting has anything at all to do with breastfeeding your child into toddlerhood, you are farking brain damaged. I'm not typically one for hyperbole, but that woman needs to be biatchslapped. Hard.
2012-05-10 05:08:06 PM  
2 votes:
I trust these Dr. Sears people to give advice on this about as much as I trust their vaccine advice.

Which is to say, not at all.

Why the fark do we have to get in each others faces about this thing?

Is it a woman superiority thing?

As a guy, I really don't care how long you're breastfeeding or not. Yeah, I think it's creepy if your 4 year old kid is still breast feeding, but that's your prerogative.

Just don't call my wife a bad parent because my kids weaned themselves earlier than some "expert" would have liked them too.
2012-05-10 03:06:08 PM  
2 votes:

Relatively Obscure: Surely there's no chance this kid will rue the day this photo was published.


This. Mom isn't even thinking about her kid's future
2012-05-10 03:00:46 PM  
2 votes:

Lorelle: Speaker2Animals: Do they teach correlation vs. causation in college?

I'm not suggesting that breastfeeding your kids will make them college grads (my mom didn't breastfeed me or my brothers. All three of us attended college; two of us have degrees); I posted that to show that breastfeeding your kids until age 4 won't necessarily warp your kids for life.


How do you know that? Are you aware of every aspect in their private lives? Do you know their sexual predilections, or how they are behind closed doors? They might be warped but look outwardly normal.
2012-05-10 02:40:10 PM  
2 votes:

Relatively Obscure: Surely there's no chance this kid will rue the day this photo was published.


Meh, it won't be a problem as long as his Mom has the good sense to protect their names from... oh for Christ's sake.
2012-05-10 02:14:30 PM  
2 votes:

Fear_and_Loathing: I had friends breastfeed until the kids were six or so. My kids got off the boob much sooner. However, she is hot and thin and breastfeeding does take off the pregnancy weight. The article was just meant to garner reaction. I am neither for against breastfeeding your 16 year old, it would seem to be a personal choice. If they aren't one of your students.



Um, I'm pretty open minded, but I'm going to have to draw the line at breastfeeding your kid after they get their driver's license. I mean, can't they just drive themselves to the Dairy Queen?
2012-05-10 12:53:58 PM  
2 votes:

Speaker2Animals: Do they teach correlation vs. causation in college?


I learned not to jump to conclusions without knowing the facts.

The My Little Pony Killer: Wouldn't matter. It was the cousins that went, not her.


See above answer.

/USC class of 1984
2012-05-10 12:45:05 PM  
2 votes:

Fear_and_Loathing: I am neither for against breastfeeding your 16 year old, it would seem to be a personal choice.


I'm pretty against making up bullshiat excuses to do it. If you want to do it, if your kid wants to do it, JUST DO IT.
2012-05-10 12:43:27 PM  
2 votes:
I had friends breastfeed until the kids were six or so. My kids got off the boob much sooner. However, she is hot and thin and breastfeeding does take off the pregnancy weight. The article was just meant to garner reaction. I am neither for against breastfeeding your 16 year old, it would seem to be a personal choice. If they aren't one of your students.
2012-05-10 12:42:26 PM  
2 votes:

Speaker2Animals: Lorelle: One of my aunts breastfed all 5 of her kids until they were age 4. All of said kids are now adults and married with kids of their own. All are college graduates; one is a teacher, another is a doctor.

I have no idea if any of my female cousins breastfed their kids.

Do they teach correlation vs. causation in college?


Wouldn't matter. It was the cousins that went, not her.
2012-05-10 12:32:55 PM  
2 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: Don't hop up on a pedestal and pretend like you're some sort of super mom for doing that.


I don't think she's on a pedestal. The kid seems to be on a chair, though.

/takes things literally
2012-05-11 04:04:03 PM  
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: Babwa Wawa: theknuckler_33: My kid was in day-care since 6 months and I was never called to get her because she took a shiat.

Good lord. Now I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

I never mentioned day care. I was talking about pre-schools. Some places (called pre-schools) are for children over the age of about three and a half. They take kids for 2 or 3 days a week, about 3 hours a day. It's a school rather than a child care facility. Some don't have the facilities required (by regulation) to change diapers. Because of those regulations, they don't take kids who aren't potty trained, but most of the kids are in pull-ups. However, they cannot (are not allowed) to change soiled pants.

Please, please PLEASE stop thinking everything is about you. It's not likely you've personally experienced or witnessed every possible parenting scenario.

Everything about me? What the heck are you talking about? I'm just trying to understand how a kid uses the potty to manipulate their parents. So you are saying that pre-schools that legally can't change diapers don't take kids who aren't potty trained, but yet have kids there that are supposedly potty trained (or else the school wouldn't take them) that wear pull-ups and these kids then intentionally shiat themselves in order to see mom or dad.

Have I got that right?


A child can wear a pull-up to pre-school even though they are potty trained. The intent is to mitigate the cleanup from accidents.

A child can use elimination to get their parents to show up to pre-school. Children can and do use elimination to facilitate other parental behavior as well as outlined up-thread.

Some children also use tantrums to facilitate parental behavior and reactions. Some use whining.

That is called "manipulation."

I suspect that you have a difficult time imagining situations you have not personally experienced or witnessed.

Just because you haven't seen a certain behavior or find it shocking doesn't mean that the behavior doesn't exist, or even that it's not even fairly normal.

Just to sum this up before I put you on ignore -

Yes, some children shiat themselves for attention. It usually isn't an ongoing behavior.
2012-05-11 06:03:17 AM  
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: My kid was in day-care since 6 months and I was never called to get her because she took a shiat.


Good lord. Now I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

I never mentioned day care. I was talking about pre-schools. Some places (called pre-schools) are for children over the age of about three and a half. They take kids for 2 or 3 days a week, about 3 hours a day. It's a school rather than a child care facility. Some don't have the facilities required (by regulation) to change diapers. Because of those regulations, they don't take kids who aren't potty trained, but most of the kids are in pull-ups. However, they cannot (are not allowed) to change soiled pants.

Please, please PLEASE stop thinking everything is about you. It's not likely you've personally experienced or witnessed every possible parenting scenario.
2012-05-10 09:47:06 PM  
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: The adoption thing has nothing to do with it.


The fact that she started breastfeeding a 3 year old most certainly has something to do with it. It's one thing to adopt an infant and start breast feeding, it's farking disgusting to do it with a 3 year old.
2012-05-10 09:32:23 PM  
1 votes:
Here's my issue: that picture really is the mom, and her supposedly 3 year-old son. He actually looks several years older than that, though. It's obviously a posed photo of them, which prompts the question, was he actually feeding and needed to feed? Or did she just whip em out and ask the kid to pretend to be drinking?

Because if he's just playing with it in his mouth, that is creepy beyond all fark.
2012-05-10 09:29:10 PM  
1 votes:
morgantx :
/Breastfed 4 children
//About to breastfeed #5
///I've always had problems with milk supply around 4-6 months, so the longest I've breastfed was about 8 months
////Wish I knew what was wrong with my milk supply. :(


I can't see the problem there, really. These women breastfeeding until they're toddlers have some sort of mental issue.

Oh, and I mean this as politely as possible:
5 kids is too much. I hope you're done adding more people to this overpopulated planet.
2012-05-10 08:54:32 PM  
1 votes:
How come you never see a hot mom breastfeeding her 13 year old daughter?
2012-05-10 08:10:46 PM  
1 votes:
There are mothers who don't breastfeed because they find the thought gross. Like I was. Yes, yes it's been done since humanity dawned and it's the way it's supposed to be, etc. I'm a terrible mother and should be ashamed, etc. It had nothing to do with wanting to drink alcohol or anything either, I just couldn't countenance it. And it doesn't bother me if other women do it. I have no problem with breastfeeding in public either. It just wasn't something I wanted to do, so I didn't. My kid is now almost an adult and a healthy, decent one.

This cover is a lame attention getting move by Time. And she does look like a biatch.
2012-05-10 07:40:38 PM  
1 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org

In a few years, this will be all that's left of your son.
2012-05-10 07:18:16 PM  
1 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: not sure about the obsession over boobs. In many cultures a woman's boob is not look upon as something sexual...akin to like her elbow or her feet. Men have boobs too.. just not as full is all.


We're better off in our culture treating them like the treat they are.
2012-05-10 07:00:46 PM  
1 votes:
Odd for Time magazine to take its cue from Juggs.
2012-05-10 06:48:37 PM  
1 votes:
Sigh. The more attention you give to such stupidity, Time, the more you encourage others to emulate the stupid.

Yes, I read the cover, and yes, I realize that Time isn't advocating her obviously crazy stance - but, by featuring this silly-ass provocation as their cover, instead of, say, a picture of the doctor championing such stupidity, you're not helping.
2012-05-10 06:48:20 PM  
1 votes:
I want to get my mouth on those breasts.

If you know what i mean.
2012-05-10 06:38:38 PM  
1 votes:
I was thinking more along the lines of "Can't she find someone closer to her own age to fill that role?".
2012-05-10 06:35:36 PM  
1 votes:

meat0918: SuperNinjaToad: not sure about the obsession over boobs. In many cultures a woman's boob is not look upon as something sexual...akin to like her elbow or her feet. Men have boobs too.. just not as full is all.

I am a supporter of boob equality. The tyranny of the T-Shirt should come to an end.

Women should be able to go topless in all the same situations as men.

I want to see if the obesity rate drops after that is allowed though. We need to track it somehow. I really want to see the experiment play out.


You do *not* want this. It's nothing like you think it will be.
Think lesbian porn. Then think *real* lesbian porn.

/shudder
2012-05-10 06:33:56 PM  
1 votes:
it's OK, I suppose, as long as she brings enough to share.
2012-05-10 06:33:26 PM  
1 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: not sure about the obsession over boobs. In many cultures a woman's boob is not look upon as something sexual...akin to like her elbow or her feet. Men have boobs too.. just not as full is all.


I am a supporter of boob equality. The tyranny of the T-Shirt should come to an end.

Women should be able to go topless in all the same situations as men.

I want to see if the obesity rate drops after that is allowed though. We need to track it somehow. I really want to see the experiment play out.
2012-05-10 06:21:21 PM  
1 votes:
Attachment theory is ideological bs. My hypothesis is that kids that score most "secure" on the Strange Situation test are the craziest little farkers out there, all destined to be future serial killers.
2012-05-10 06:17:45 PM  
1 votes:
Here's some exact quotes: The AAP recommends "exclusive breastfeeding for about 6 months, followed by continued breastfeeding as complementary foods are introduced, with continuation of breastfeeding for 1 year or longer as mutually desired by mother and infant."

WHO says "Exclusive breastfeeding is recommended up to 6 months of age, with continued breastfeeding along with appropriate complementary foods up to two years of age or beyond."

But of course those of you who claim that babies should be fully weaned at six months or that a two year old who breastfeeds is creepy know sooooo much more than the leading pediatricians in the US and the world.

/Not planning to breastfeed that long.
//Not judging those that do though.
2012-05-10 06:04:56 PM  
1 votes:

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: meat0918: The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: At what point does it cease to be about providing nourishment and become molestation?

I dare you to go down to Saturday Market and ask one of the many mothers breastfeeding their preschoolers that question.

:)

We could turn it into a drinking game. Drink every time they say

Oppressor (two drinks if it's preceded with "male")
Patriarchic
Societal Norms
Mother Gaia

Chug if they go into an anti-vax non sequitur


Don't forget "Phallocentric", that's key.


As for the breastfeeding-as-birth-control, that only works if you're on a Paleolithic diet. Living on a simple hunter-gatherer diet doesn't provide the mother with enough energy to breastfeed a kid and ovulate, so it works. Fast forward to Post-industrial society with abundant calories and comparatively sedentary lifestyle and there's more than enough fuel to feed the kid and uncle Pete, ovulate, and grow beautiful hair and fingernails.
2012-05-10 06:00:35 PM  
1 votes:

Ambitwistor: Babwa Wawa: I see normally open-minded women just tear into each other over their child-rearing practices. The first few times I saw it, I was taken aback by its viciousness. Now it seems normal to me. Never seen a good explanation for it, though.

I think the chain of mental logic goes: "I don't raise my children the way you do" => "My way is better than your way" => "Therefore your way is hurting your child" ... and then it gets ugly. Nobody wants to hear someone tell them they're hurting their own child.


I took a course on cross-cultural child rearing practices last year. People get so upset over the simplest little things, from spanking to breastfeeding to waiting a year to name your child... it's a very touchy subject and people tend to think that if you do it different than they did, you are somehow condemning them. Nursing a kid until they are school age has never been shown to cause any harm. People really need to go find something better to worry over.
2012-05-10 05:59:54 PM  
1 votes:

jigger: 2. How is this not considered incest child porn by the government?


Because it isn't incest, you sick fark.
2012-05-10 05:59:41 PM  
1 votes:
breastfeeding and solid food are not mutually exclusive.
2012-05-10 05:53:02 PM  
1 votes:

ace in your face: meat0918: ace in your face: theknuckler_33: meat0918: I just need to say, Dr. Sears is this generations Dr. Spock, and it will turn out just as well as all his advice did.

FWIW, I haven't seen anything to indicate that Dr. Sears advocates breast feeding into toddlerhood.

/didn't do a lot of research though

I'm under the impression that sears is into baby led weaning, which can mean till whenever the fark they want. I don't have a cite for it I just have yipster friends who are into it.

Yes, that's what he advocates. I was commenting more on this apparent deification of Dr. Sears and his methods being similar to Dr. Spock's deification in the popular media.

Let the child wean them self. It's good advice. I've been witness to mother's that let their child wean themselves, and then the kid changes their mind a few months down the road, and they let the kid suckle their now dry boobs.

Of course, after a few days of on and off stimulation this woman started lactating again, and got to insufferable to be around.

//Yeah, I'm using fark to vent my frustration with super smug parents.

Farking antivaxers too.


I'm a parent, and I feel the urge to be smug about my kids, I really, really do. They are smart, they do really well in school, they have more friends than I did at their age, but I try my damnedest not to brag and get in people's faces about it. How hard is it to be humble? I think that's why I don't over sell my kids and brag brag brag all the time, I want to teach them to have some humility.

And the antivax thing!!! I won't comment too much on a friend's attachment issues with her breastfeeding her soon to be 5 year old. Different strokes for different folks.

But don't you dare call me or my wife a bad parent because our kids are vaccinated and yours are not, and don't you farking dare say your kids are healthier than mine because you're still breastfeeding when your kids are allergic to damn near every food under the sun and sick all the time and somehow still manage to be in the 90th percentile for weight their age...

You can tell I don't tell my "friends" their behavior bothers me. I need new friends.
2012-05-10 05:52:45 PM  
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Cup_O_Jo: Once your kid has teeth...it should not be breastfeeding.. And doing it till they are 5 and 6 is going to give them antisocial disorder and confuse them about breasts as a sexual organ also.


My 11 month old son had a tooth at 4 months, 6 total at 5 months. Now, he has 8.

I would suggest your opinion has flaws.

To be clear, this biatch is crazy.

First two kids were off the boob at 14 and 12 months respectively. If my pediatrist says "no milk till at least one year old" and my wife chooses to do breastmilk instead of formula (with doctors approval for that as well)... I'm just saying our pediatrician is more right then Fark.
2012-05-10 05:47:16 PM  
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I couldn't stop marveling at how firm her breasts are after 4+ years of having a kid latch onto her multiple times a day. Etiher that's a fantastic photoshop augmentation, or that woman has the nicest damn skin of anyone I've ever met.

/mom is crazy hot
//I wonder how many people would cheer for this picture if the woman was 300 pounds with a little 100 pound obesimonster attached to her massively deflated rubber-band boobs.
2012-05-10 05:47:02 PM  
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theknuckler_33: Common sense. If you wouldn't give them a bottle, don't give them the tit. It's pretty simple really.


Common hate of breast feeding. It was how the system was designed, works for everyone, has some short term benefits and is easy at 3am. I have an issue if they can get on a chair, but it isn't my kid. A fairly attractive woman, with a giant kid standing on a chair with her boob out and a kid suckling was meant to be controversial.

There is nothing wrong with breast feeding, in public or not. The lengths people take it to may or may not be an issue.
2012-05-10 05:43:51 PM  
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I'm at the age now where I've experienced enough crazy to just stay the fark away. Crazy pussy is just not worth all the shiat you put up with and this biatch is the gold standard in crazy.. Whoever fathered those kids is either just as crazy or locked in a cell in the basement.
2012-05-10 05:41:12 PM  
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and they let the kid suckle their now dry boobs.

Then this is clearly a case of molestation. If there is no milk, then she is not breastfeeding anymore...she is just letting some kid suck her tits.
2012-05-10 05:41:08 PM  
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My wife pretty much followed the AAP recommendations, breast feeding our two kids exclusively until 6-7 months and then introducing solid foods bit by bit. Both boys were weened completely at about 12-14 months. Our neighbor still breastfeeds her 3-year-old, although this has become an issue with the arrival of their second child - the older one gets extremely jealous that the baby gets priority. Neighbor says she wishes she had weened earlier.

Personally I think it would be fine going to maybe 2 years old or so, but when the child is old enough to ask for it (you know, with words) it is probably time to stop. Going beyond 3+, it generally seems to have more to do with the mother's attachment issues than it does with doing something healthy or positive for the child - she just doesn't want to lose her special connection with the kid.

On the other hand, I've also met some women who just couldn't be bothered to breastfeed (or didn't want to breastfeed because it would mean they couldn't drink). I think I would go with a little too long versus too short or not at all. Note - not suggesting selfishness is the only reason women don't breastfeed babies, cases absolutely exist where it just doesn't work for one reason or another out of their control.
2012-05-10 05:33:12 PM  
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Fear_and_Loathing: theknuckler_33: You are farked up. Seriously.

Do what you will with your kids. Mine breast feed for about a year and a half. I am on neither side of the issue. Oddly all the kids turned out well. Oddly, some parents go overboard, it is natural. But if their kids grow up okay, who says they are wrong.


Common sense. If you wouldn't give them a bottle, don't give them the tit. It's pretty simple really.

Or, in other words...

evilsofa: If they're old enough to ask for it, they're too old.


Some kids grow up OK while being abused. Their growing up "OK" isn't the metric by which you measure a parenting technique as successful or good or acceptable.
2012-05-10 05:27:06 PM  
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Does this stupid twat have no idea how much shiat is going to come down on her kids at school over this? This is going to follow them all the way through high school and they're going to be teased about it relentlessly.
2012-05-10 05:27:03 PM  
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Wonder what the other kids are going to say when he's in High School and mommy shows up because he forgot his lunch.
2012-05-10 05:27:00 PM  
1 votes:
I remember stuff from when I was 5, 4 not so much and 3???
I'm not sure this part of childhood with one's mother should be a permanent laden memory for the child.
This appear to be more about the mothers unwillingness to become detached and give the child room to grow than filling a need in the child.
2012-05-10 05:26:06 PM  
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derpdeederp: I am 32 and would like to get in on some breastfeeding with this mom.


Came here to say this. I would punch that kid in the head and knock him off that boob.

/mom is hot.
2012-05-10 05:25:42 PM  
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9beers: What the hell is attachment parenting? I'm assuming it's like helicopter parenting.


I didn't know either and while I have not done any kind of extensive research, it seems to be a name given to what would otherwise be considered common sense. You know, cultivating a bond with your child.
2012-05-10 05:23:00 PM  
1 votes:
She looks like a biatch.
2012-05-10 05:21:53 PM  
1 votes:
What the hell is attachment parenting? I'm assuming it's like helicopter parenting.
2012-05-10 05:19:54 PM  
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Canton: BunkyBrewman: Relatively Obscure: Surely there's no chance this kid will rue the day this photo was published.

That picture is going to be plastered on everything that kid owns now through his entire school and work career.

That kid's gonna be home-schooled. I can see it now...


He'll have his next 15 minutes of fame when he has sex with his teacher.
2012-05-10 05:19:12 PM  
1 votes:
milkydreams.com

APPROVES!

/the chinese do it.
2012-05-10 05:19:07 PM  
1 votes:

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: At what point does it cease to be about providing nourishment and become molestation?


Band camp.
2012-05-10 05:17:19 PM  
1 votes:
And here is the headline for this same Son/Mom pair in 13 years-
California Mom Mistie Atkinson Charged for Incest with 16-Year-Old Son; Sex Caught on Cell Phone
2012-05-10 05:15:45 PM  
1 votes:
I get the feeling that this woman will be harassing his college professors about his grades and showing up with him to job interviews in about 18 years.
2012-05-10 05:14:55 PM  
1 votes:
I think she just wants someone sucking on her tit.
2012-05-10 05:11:29 PM  
1 votes:
This is kinda how I imagined Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher on their wedding night.
2012-05-10 05:09:26 PM  
1 votes:
I am 32 and would like to get in on some breastfeeding with this mom.
2012-05-10 04:02:06 PM  
1 votes:
Kid had better learn to fight, or else it's gonna be, "Mama's Boy" this, and "Milk Baby" that, and "Your mom's still pretty hot so where does the line start so I can get on the other one" the other thing.
2012-05-10 03:50:38 PM  
1 votes:
Lysa Arryn?
2012-05-10 03:49:15 PM  
1 votes:
I don't see the big deal.

I'm 40 and suckling right now.

(Your mom is laughing while I type this)
2012-05-10 03:13:52 PM  
1 votes:
I got next. Stop hoggin it kid
2012-05-10 03:12:35 PM  
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: That has nothing to do with being "mom enough." All of the natural protections of breastmilk RUN OUT when the kid starts developing their own immune system at six months.


What are you talking about?

In our hunter-gatherer ancestors, who had no knowledge of or access to other forms of contraception, frequent and prolonged breastfeeding by day and by night resulted in children being born about 4 years apart, and appropriate introduction of modern forms of contraception. Even to this day, breastfeeding still prevents more births in most developing countries than all modern forms of contraception

Link
2012-05-10 02:32:51 PM  
1 votes:
had
2012-05-10 02:23:26 PM  
1 votes:
That kid is going to get his ass kicked for this some day.
2012-05-10 02:16:29 PM  
1 votes:
Whenever I see a woman breastfeeding in public I find it HIGHLY inappropriate. Why must they disgust us with this wholly unnatural display? It reminds me of the time a woman came into my small business, covered in tattoos and breastfeeding a baby. I said "I can't hire someone with tattoos in my small business. What would my customers say?"

She said "That's OK, I'm going to keep breastfeeding where ever and whenever I want. Because of your trampling of my rights, I'm taking my kid to a moil to get him circumcised right now."

Can you imagine if I had a tattooed, breastfeeding woman getting her child a circumcision in my small business? What would my customers say?
2012-05-10 02:15:35 PM  
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Sybarite: Fear_and_Loathing: I had friends breastfeed until the kids were six or so. My kids got off the boob much sooner. However, she is hot and thin and breastfeeding does take off the pregnancy weight. The article was just meant to garner reaction. I am neither for against breastfeeding your 16 year old, it would seem to be a personal choice. If they aren't one of your students.


Um, I'm pretty open minded, but I'm going to have to draw the line at breastfeeding your kid after they get their driver's license. I mean, can't they just drive themselves to the Dairy Queen?


You can get breastmilk at Dairy Queen now?
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-05-10 12:58:14 PM  
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cache.ohinternet.com
Obligatory
2012-05-10 12:50:57 PM  
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a.scpr.org
2012-05-10 12:45:42 PM  
1 votes:

Speaker2Animals: Do they teach correlation vs. causation in college?


I'm not suggesting that breastfeeding your kids will make them college grads (my mom didn't breastfeed me or my brothers. All three of us attended college; two of us have degrees); I posted that to show that breastfeeding your kids until age 4 won't necessarily warp your kids for life.
2012-05-10 12:44:25 PM  
1 votes:
heh...tits.
2012-05-10 12:44:14 PM  
1 votes:

Speaker2Animals: Lorelle: One of my aunts breastfed all 5 of her kids until they were age 4. All of said kids are now adults and married with kids of their own. All are college graduates; one is a teacher, another is a doctor.

I have no idea if any of my female cousins breastfed their kids.

Do they teach correlation vs. causation in college?


I think the point is that the children grew up to be seemingly normal, well-adjusted adults despite being breast-fed for an unusually long time, not because of it.
2012-05-10 12:27:16 PM  
1 votes:
This headline implies that someone in the article was trying to breastfeed Pac-Man. I feel cheated.
 
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