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(The New York Times)   It used to be just two talks you had to give your kids, the "birds and the bees" and the more delicate discussion of how to navigate a healthy sexual life as a young adult. Now there's a third - Internet porn   (nytimes.com) divider line 94
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2012-05-10 08:45:39 AM
and the more delicate discussion of how to navigate a healthy sexual life as a young adult.

Really? Who got that one. Is that just "Don't fark"?

I got the B&B talk. But from stories I've heard, some barely even got that.
 
2012-05-10 08:45:52 AM
If you kill that hooker, you can get your money back.
 
2012-05-10 08:46:59 AM
Actually, there's no real reason that the third discussion can't also encompass the first two. You could even build the discussion around some nice after-dinner family time spent watching porn as an illustration of a) where babies come from and b) what a healthy sexual life can look like. You want to avoid creating unreasonable hang-ups that might stifle your child's natural curiosity, of course; when watching the bukkake scene, for example, do not express value judgments -- for example, Oh my god, that's disgusting, see, that woman has no sense of self-worth and is totally debasing herself to those men. Don't ever do that, honey. Because, as most child psychologists will tell you, what this a actually does is create a very real possibility of instilling the beginnings of self-loathing and a "sex is evil" attitude in your child's young, still-forming brain -- and just imagine if she's already participated in the act that you're watching together! My gosh, can you even imagine the guilt with which you'd be saddling her? Why, she'll walk away from your talk believing that you think she's nothing but a classless whore, and what kind of a father does that make you? It makes you one who raised a self-loathing, classless whore. Good job there, bucko.

So don't be that father. Instead of that, be supportive and non-judgmental: Well, that woman certainly does appear to enjoy that, doesn't she honey. Hope there's a shower nearby! and let your child form her own conclusions. Except for stuff invovlving furries, of course, you can mock the shiat of that.
 
2012-05-10 08:47:42 AM
THe only conversation I have with my kids about internet porn involves resetting the router

/not a euphemism
 
2012-05-10 08:47:46 AM
That one is easy.

The stuff that happens in a lot of those videos is usually a lot messier and/or painful in real life.

If you have already had the other two talks that should pretty much cover the rest of it.
 
2012-05-10 08:49:17 AM
Egoy3k: That one is easy.

The stuff that happens in a lot of those videos is usually a lot messier and/or painful in real life.

If you have already had the other two talks that should pretty much cover the rest of it.


Suzie, remember those first two talks we had?
this is the last one.
It's called Rule 34.
 
2012-05-10 08:49:24 AM
Fark Me Runnin: If you kill that hooker, you can get your money back.

Dad?
 
2012-05-10 08:50:05 AM
Well, don't forget about the nonblack version, too.
 
2012-05-10 08:51:39 AM
"Might as well wait, son - she's just gonna lie there like a dead fish anyway."
 
2012-05-10 08:52:05 AM
Already had it. It went something like this: "Daughter, people take pictures of *everything*. Everything. They take pictures of themselves naked, they take pictures of themselves having sex. They just do. So if you're on the internet and you come across something like that, just back up and go away from it. Don't be surprised of words that appear to have *nothing* to do with sex or nudity pull up images of them occasionally. It happens, just move past it. If you have questions, talk to me or Mom."

This was the result of her doing a report on various pies from around the world. Even with Safe Search turned on, the word "pasty pie", which is a real kind of pie, and no there is not an 'r' missing, turned up pictures of strippers with pasties on their boobs. So, yeah.

As with all things, make as big a deal of it as you want them to think it is.
 
2012-05-10 08:52:59 AM
My son is 13 and recently screwed up to the point that I took all his electronics away. I was surprised to find as little porn as I did on his computer. Spyware, yes, lots of it, but not much porn beyond one hentai site in his favorites.

When he does get back his computer, I'll be teaching him how to keep himself and his computer safe.

/yes, I have explained that real girls don't like tentacle sex.
 
2012-05-10 08:55:06 AM
My daughter is 13 and has zero interest in watching any type of porn. Epic meal time and some other YouTube channels are a different story though.

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2012-05-10 08:59:57 AM
chaoswolf:

/yes, I have explained that real girls don't like tentacle sex.



You just shut up. You just shut up now!
 
2012-05-10 09:00:20 AM
I never got any talks, but my mom did leave me a note calling me a cad the first time I slept over my first girlfriend's house. Conservatives are cute.
 
2012-05-10 09:03:18 AM
I never got any of those talks. Sometime into my twenties my mother just said "we thought you'd probably figure it out". I had, and am glad to forgo the embarrassment of having to listen to either of them explain that to me.

And back then nobody knew about internet porn, well nobody of a parental generation. It wasn't anywhere near as mainstream. Whereas now, as scarmig: says. even with safe-search on you get it. Hell, earlier today I looked up my friend's name on Google Images and image three was some woman in saucy underwear flashing her naked ass, not what I wanted at work.

Also my friend's name is Dave.
 
2012-05-10 09:04:57 AM
Oh yes, recently ran into this with my son. Apparently got exposed to his first porn pop up (updated the popup blocker, yes, after this) and got curious.

He's 13. He didn't want to see a bunch of 21 year olds. So it was perfectly logical to him to search for "13 year old porn".

There was major, major discussion. It has not happened again.

/the things I never knew I would ever have to actually spell out for my children to NOT do
 
2012-05-10 09:08:06 AM
My 13 y.o. son invited 4 friends over during spring recess, drove my wife crazy. Afterwards she complains "and they were looking at porn!"

Uhhh.... What?

So she pulls up the history. It wasn't porn per se, it was this weird Japanese anime of kids sneaking into some ymca type place, getting frisky then this squid like thing emerges. It wasnt graphic, but when a tentacles moves towards her crotch and then you get pics of her face contorting and gasping, you kinda know what's happening.
 
2012-05-10 09:08:35 AM
This all just reads like another excellent reason not to have kids.
 
2012-05-10 09:09:05 AM
You see dear when a man , a woman, a goat ant the Harlem Globetrotters really lover each other ....
 
2012-05-10 09:09:30 AM
It is typically set off by a child's accidental wanderings online or the deliberate searches of a curious teenager on a smartphone, laptop, tablet or one of the other devices

If you don't know how to select "safe search" or parental settings then, well, I guess you get what you deserve and your kids mind melts. Cope

Nice going twit

BTW what's a kid doing with a smartphone anyway? Keeping up with the local 1%er wannabe?
 
2012-05-10 09:09:57 AM
Jeez, me and my kids made a game of it, as in: 'odd paraphillia of the week.' in home school. Of course my home school was a little different. For drox education, one segment was to interview junkies I knew.
 
2012-05-10 09:10:54 AM
I've got a 14 y/o son so I'm getting a kick....

The big lesson here was teaching him to cover his tracks , and bookmarking a few of his links for future "research"
 
2012-05-10 09:12:08 AM
Never got a talk. Just had any semblance of self esteem stomped out of me by a drunk and a dick-head who should never have had kids. For a guy, that can lead to a healthy sex life (no sex). It seems to have the opposite effect on girls though.
 
2012-05-10 09:14:17 AM
Come to think of it, maybe one reason why I don't want kids of my own is that I'm afraid I might actually take Pocket Ninja's posts as advice, just to see what would happen. Of course, what would happens is that I -- and society -- would suffer the consequences of such a twisted creation. Then I think, "Better nipple -- NIP, nip, yes, nip, I mean nip -- this in the bud."

The kids I kidnap are fair game, though.
 
2012-05-10 09:14:24 AM
"Now"?
 
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2012-05-10 09:20:11 AM
I think most kids could explain Internet porn to their parents.
 
2012-05-10 09:20:51 AM
HA! This happened to my nephew last year (10 yr old)....he and a friend did a GIS for 'sexy women in underwear'. Supposedly the pictures that popped up were very graphic in more ways then one and it really bothered him.

After I heard about it I GIS'd 'sexy women in underwear' and didn't see anything that bad....then again I've seen '2 girls-1 cup'.
 
2012-05-10 09:22:58 AM
ferretman: After I heard about it I GIS'd 'sexy women in underwear' and didn't see anything that bad....then again I've seen '2 girls-1 cup'.

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2012-05-10 09:23:50 AM
Fap early, fap often?
 
2012-05-10 09:23:56 AM
ferretman: HA! ...then again I've seen '2 girls-1 cup'.

Just when enough time has passed that I think that image is blocked from my mind, you have to mention it. Thanks.
 
2012-05-10 09:25:33 AM
elder-geek.com
 
2012-05-10 09:26:45 AM
Never got a talk from my parents. I read "All you ever wanted to know about sex but were afraid to ask" when I was about 13. So I'm one of the few people that realizes that you actually can get STDs from a toilet seat, and you can also get pregnant from a toilet seat. But there must be gymnasts involved.

When I told my 10 year old son we needed to have a talk about sex, he said "Sure dad, what do you want to know?"

BTW, where do I get access to this XXX-rated version of youtube that was mentioned in the article?
 
2012-05-10 09:26:50 AM
Well the first talk from Dad when I was 14 went something like:
"Have your pubes turned black yet? They will, just wait..."
"Don't worry if your d*ck is small it keeps growing until your early twenties..."
"Girls are slimy down there..."
At which point i left the room confused and a little worried. I avoided any further talks from then on.
 
2012-05-10 09:27:51 AM
Lackofname: and the more delicate discussion of how to navigate a healthy sexual life as a young adult.

Really? Who got that one. Is that just "Don't fark"?

I got the B&B talk. But from stories I've heard, some barely even got that.


I'm very glad that I'm not the only one who thought that was a little strange.

I got the B&B talk (not from my dad though, he was a lousy bastard of a father but that's another story). I never got any other talks about the specific details. I don't think any of my friends did when growing up either.

But I do agree that it probably is a good idea that parents have some discussion with their kids about internet porn. They are going to find it and it's nothing like discovering sex in the real world so it needs some explaining.
 
2012-05-10 09:29:19 AM
I still don't understand the "birds and the bees"

I mean, the literal birds and the bees. Specifically the bees. wtf, they have a role in the reproduction of flowers? That's just freakin' weird. And flowers have male and female parts? what the hell is that?

We never learned that in school, and we had sex ed and learned all about human sexual reproduction and a little bit (not much) about actual sex, nothing more than everyone already knew, mixed in with a lot of gross photos of STD eruptions. But never in biology/science/etc did we learn about bees being involved in the reproduction cycle of flowers.

And nothing about birds. Why is it the "birds and the bees" when the birds lay eggs, while the bees are off spending all their time as surrogate farks for flowers? The two are nothing alike, and neither is even close to what humans do.
 
2012-05-10 09:29:41 AM
ONLY 2 or 3 talks?

Get a clue parents. If you aren't able to have open, honest, ongoing discussions with your children about anything and everything of interest to them, you're doing it wrong.

(Of course you should probably tailor things depending on the maturity level of your child)
 
2012-05-10 09:30:15 AM
LiberalConservative: Well the first talk from Dad when I was 14 went something like:
"Have your pubes turned black yet? They will, just wait..."
"Don't worry if your d*ck is small it keeps growing until your early twenties..."
"Girls are slimy down there..."
At which point i left the room confused and a little worried. I avoided any further talks from then on.


You gotta hand it to the guy though, he was pretty much right on all those.
 
2012-05-10 09:32:51 AM
The way things are now, I am gonna start telling dirty stories to the womb at this point.
 
2012-05-10 09:36:38 AM
500motivators.com
 
2012-05-10 09:40:31 AM
graphics8.nytimes.com

hah! Looks like mom caught you looking at porn kid
 
2012-05-10 09:40:33 AM
lostinjersey: My 13 y.o. son invited 4 friends over during spring recess, drove my wife crazy. Afterwards she complains "and they were looking at porn!"

Uhhh.... What?

So she pulls up the history. It wasn't porn per se, it was this weird Japanese anime of kids sneaking into some ymca type place, getting frisky then this squid like thing emerges. It wasnt graphic, but when a tentacles moves towards her crotch and then you get pics of her face contorting and gasping, you kinda know what's happening.


How curious, I recently saw a music video on youtube that had some close similarities. The music video was clearly anime based where a bunch of kids sneak into what appears to be a ymca pool and start making out. I didn't watch the entire thing but one of the guys turns out to be the monster who's arm is actually some sort of tentacle that he inserts into a woman and then can control her like a puppet. The tentacle apparently kills people though. I didn't watch the entire thing.
 
2012-05-10 09:41:24 AM
My wife is a health educator at a local college, and she gives lectures to classes when the professor/instructor cannot make it. Topics like those covered in TFA; healthy dating relationships, avoiding sexual assault, contraception and STI prevention, as well as stress management and the like.

Anyhow, it is quite apparent that such talks are not being done effectively before college for many kids. We ran into this one (ridiculously gorgeous, honestly) young woman at a restaurant last night that had wife's lecture on preventing sexual assault last year. She expressed her gratitude for the terrific presentation, that no one had really talked about that type of stuff to not only her but, based on the attitudes expressed in the class (about sexual assault in this case) neither for the rest of the class.
 
2012-05-10 09:41:40 AM
But many parents take a different approach. Patti Thomson, for example, said she believed that her duty as a mother was to shield her five children, ages 7 to 15, from explicit content, even if it meant hours spent poring over user manuals and access controls for the computers at her home in Reading, Mass.

7 - yes
15 - I'm really not sure

I think people have to think sensibly about porn and to realise there are two ways that kids will see porn:-
1. Younger kids getting rogue search engine results based on an innocent search
2. Older kids looking for it

If a kid is looking for porn, they're a disgusting teenager, but frankly, you might as well let them get on with it. They're going to get it one way or another, whether it's a download or someone giving them a USB stick. Teenage boys don't give up on this. No, I don't believe in arbitrary age limits that are pulled out of some politician's ass on what age someone can see something which are generally at least a few years above the appropriate age (I was watching 18 films when I was 15 with my 14 year old girlfriend, neither of us were scarred by it).
 
2012-05-10 09:45:37 AM
I had a birds and bees talk with my son and I covered the subject of computer porn because some of his friends at school talked about it.

I basically told him that yes, it exists but that most of the people there were just showing off for the camera. I think the most important lesson there about porn is that it is not representative of peoples actual sex lives.

I also told him I'd put a boot in his ass if I found him looking at it.

It does reminds me of a local radio DJ morning show guy who said "Yeah, my wife caught my son looking at porn on the Internet. So I had to have 'the talk' with him: 'Son, here is how you clear your browser history..."
 
2012-05-10 09:46:42 AM
I'll tell you one thing that I got from TFA that I'd not really given much thought to (my oldest is 4, I have a while to catch up) is the whole "I'm 13, I'll search for pics of naked girls that are my age" thing. Danger, Will Robinson!

RavenOnyx: He's 13. He didn't want to see a bunch of 21 year olds. So it was perfectly logical to him to search for "13 year old porn".

Yeah, like this. Holy crap that could be bad.
 
2012-05-10 09:47:23 AM
I winder how many of these same parents buy their kids DIY home porn studios, AKA web-cams and/or any device which can take and share photos?
 
2012-05-10 09:47:35 AM
Jillian stumbled upon a graphic video while watching "My Little Pony" videos.

This I find highly amusing. "Mommy, is this an extra magic type of friendship?"
 
2012-05-10 09:47:48 AM
There should be two talks:

For boys:
"Son, don't yank it so hard that you tear it off. It can be sewn back on, but it will never be the same."

For girls,
"Yes dear, men really are like that, except very few of them can last that long. No, they're not really into all those weird positions, that's just so that they can get a camera angle which shows what's going on. Finally, expect to bring yourself to orgasm most of the time."
 
2012-05-10 09:49:28 AM
Surely this guy could do it for you
www.happydonald.com
 
2012-05-10 09:50:38 AM
Lackofname: and the more delicate discussion of how to navigate a healthy sexual life as a young adult.

Really? Who got that one. Is that just "Don't fark"?



That's what we do in Texas. Incidentally, we also have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the country.
 
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