These guys have a song about pills, I think:

A Terrible Human: Chimperror2: because we have the best health care system in the world.

We also consume a large percentage of cancer drugs, MRI machines and other miracles of modern medicine.

/And it will all end when it changes from excellent to "not covered" to "prohibited." The inevitable Obama legacy.

I want in on this best health care system in the world thing....oh wait I don't have insurance and can't afford it so I'm screwed.

That's because you are a terrible human. :-/

the nameless one: Anyone who has ever been addicted to painkillers knows what hell is like when withdrawl hits. I fell 30 ft onto concrete when i was younger and the doctors passed out those things like candy to me, eventually I was getting prescribed 75 mcg patches and oxycodone to deal with pain.

I was taking Lorcets and Somas for 5+ years, I quit them cold turkey and went to Tramadol which barely does anything for pain but doesn't make me a zombie. the withdrawl from lorcets was the worst thing ever. Wouldn't wish it on anyone

Why do British consume 80% of the world's spotted dick?

because doctors get kick backs on every prescription.

BECAUSE FU(K YOU!

Banna's heroine.
Yes I am on painkillers, why?

Feral Duhbya: heroine

CujoQuarrel: Heroine used to be legal. It's actually a brand name from Bayer that they lost the rights to (think Aspirin). It stands for Heroic Pain Reliever I think .

jjwars1: That includes illegal drugs like opium and heroine as well.

There isn't an E in heroin.

Podna: the nameless one: Anyone who has ever been addicted to painkillers knows what hell is like when withdrawl hits. I fell 30 ft onto concrete when i was younger and the doctors passed out those things like candy to me, eventually I was getting prescribed 75 mcg patches and oxycodone to deal with pain.

I was taking Lorcets and Somas for 5+ years, I quit them cold turkey and went to Tramadol which barely does anything for pain but doesn't make me a zombie. the withdrawl from lorcets was the worst thing ever. Wouldn't wish it on anyone

Blame whoever kept giving them to you.

Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that the U.S. is the only country where Big Pharma is allowed to market directly to the consumer. No? Ask your doctor if Viagra is right for you.

/If Cialis really works, why are they in SEPARATE TUBS???/

HAMMERTOE: Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that the U.S. is the only country where Big Pharma is allowed to market directly to the consumer. No? Ask your doctor if Viagra is right for you.

Side effects may include painful swelling, cancer, heart attack, suicidal depression, renal failure, falling over dead and sh*tting your own lungs out. But, hey, look into it.

Podna: the nameless one: Anyone who has ever been addicted to painkillers knows what hell is like when withdrawl hits. I fell 30 ft onto concrete when i was younger and the doctors passed out those things like candy to me, eventually I was getting prescribed 75 mcg patches and oxycodone to deal with pain.

I was taking Lorcets and Somas for 5+ years, I quit them cold turkey and went to Tramadol which barely does anything for pain but doesn't make me a zombie. the withdrawl from lorcets was the worst thing ever. Wouldn't wish it on anyone

God I miss Soma.. wasn't even scheduled until this year. Worked great for easing my neck spasms and preventing me from getting a migraine. And yeah, tramadol is pretty weak and ineffective unless you take 6-8 a day. Ugh.
I stopped going to doctors when I realized that I knew more about drugs than most of them... and when doctors realize that, they won't prescribe anything useful anymore.

AbbeySomeone: Rasraf Mekerk: This is why I don't prescribe narcotic pain meds. If your pain is that bad then you need to see a pain specialist.

/doctor

Physicians like you are the reason so many of us see alternative practitioners, and get better.

Alternative medicines that work are just called "medicine".

cc_rider: Rasraf Mekerk: This is why I don't prescribe narcotic pain meds. If your pain is that bad then you need to see a pain specialist.

/doctor

Now those are the guys that give out those pills like candy!

/Sufferer of chronic back pain, but I don't go to pill mills. I mostly suck it up and occasionally ask for something from my doctor. Next month I'll start some acupuncture treatments.

Tried chiropractor? I have to go back, only thing that helps me. Last MRI failed because of a BB lodged in my back from 25 years ago, huge black hole on the MRI scan. Crack, crack, better.

bunner: There isn't an E in heroin

I am incorrect. Let me rephrase that. There is only one E in heroin.

Because we're in pain.



No, not that kind. This kind:

Insurance companies are bookies and they welch a lot. Your health care options are limited to how many new BMWs your insurer's board feels entitled to. Not a lot of reasons NOT to take opium.

They are cheaper than having a decent system of socialized medicine like the rest of the first world?

/are we still considered first world?

War on Drugs?

As somebody who spent the last year developing an OTC natural painkiller which is more effective than morphine and not under the jurisdiction of the FDA, I'm really getting a kick....

Except that 2 weeks ago I showed up at our lab to discover a business partner completely emptied the building and skipped town with all of our hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment. wtf.

/CSB

hitlersbrain: /are we still considered first world?



Sorta

Because we can? Pot is illegal? We pay for 99% of the R&D.

bunner: Marine1: jjwars1: There's a reason we invaded Afghanistan, the worlds #1 producer of opiates used in painkillers, and it wasn't to get the bad guys.

Conspiracy, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Any time you see yourself smirking and thinking "conspiracy theory", just say "business plan" instead. You'd be amazed at how much less tinfoil hatty things look.

Yeah I'm still a little iffy on the chemtrail business model.

LavenderWolf: Yeah I'm still a little iffy on the chemtrail business model.

I don't know that that is.

(1) The rest of the world is a pain in the ass.
(2) Have you ever had an opiate?

NewportBarGuy: Because doctors are weak sacks of sh*t, unable to either follow protocol in prescribing meds, or following up to see if the course is even working.

jjwars1: There's a reason we invaded Afghanistan, the worlds #1 producer of opiates used in painkillers

Bzzzzt! Wrong... Pharmaceutical heroin is much cheaper and cleaner.

I can't wait to see the sales numbers for Zohydro. We've basically legalized heroin. Let's stop f*cking around here and admit that we have legalized hardcore drugs and pretend it's legal by using pharmacology. Yet, marijuana is still illegal and will kill all the children.

I'd venture to bet that many of the same people who are vehemently anti-pot are consistently 4-7 days early on their refill for Oxy or vicodin. F*cking hypocritical assholes.

It's hysterical, really. We're fighting the Drug War and running a multi-billion business in those very same meds, but with a doctor and a prescription pad. Don't give me the chronic pain crap. I know the ones who are on it for fused discs and such. I know it has a legitimate use, but the hypocrisy of the argument on drugs we have is just ridiculous.

We can't have an honest discussion about anything in this country. Ahhhh... F*ck it. I'm just going to put my 401(k) on Zohydro and let it ride!

Why are you anti herion? That shiat gave us all of our greatest recent works of music, acting, and art. I say fark yeah more Herion users more music, art and art films!!!

ecmoRandomNumbers: That reminds me...

It's time to take my Vicodin. But it's actually for pain, so it kinda sucks. Wish I were in condition to take it recreationally, or not at all.

Same here, tho it's percocet. I'm like you and have legitimate pain, yet tryin to find a pain managment doc is impossible cause they don't see people without insurance.

It's like those who use it for recreation get away with it, but those who actually need it end up getting lumped in with the addicts and theives. It sucks arse!

/when callin pharmacy, have to give name to verify that I have a legit script
//otherwise they automatically say they're out of percs...so they don't get robbed

A pill to get up
A pill to stop eating
A pill to relax
A pill to go to sleep
A pill to stay asleep

We have too many pills for too many things

But Doc, the Vicodan gives me energy.......

bunner: HAMMERTOE: Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that the U.S. is the only country where Big Pharma is allowed to market directly to the consumer. No? Ask your doctor if Viagra is right for you.

Side effects may include painful swelling, cancer, heart attack, suicidal depression, renal failure, falling over dead and sh*tting your own lungs out. But, hey, look into it.

When my husband got shingles two years ago (he was only 33, but under such extreme stress that his system just started breaking down) and the doc prescribed Lyrica, he took one look at the size of the warning sheet and chunked it. It sucked, but he was more inclined to endure the pain than take the risk.

/rather go to my masseuse for my back issues

Hmmm... Lets see if I can sum this all up.


Legalize it
Its Big Pharma
Follow the money
F'ing Americans
Its a conspiracy

I do believe that covers most of this thread.

/not including personal testimonials on addiction

Roy_G_Biv: Because the American left does 80% of the world's whining.

Yeah, righties never wine, never get offended, and certainly aren't the majority of old people on pain meds. :->

bunner: HAMMERTOE: Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that the U.S. is the only country where Big Pharma is allowed to market directly to the consumer. No? Ask your doctor if Viagra is right for you.

Side effects may include painful swelling, cancer, heart attack, suicidal depression, renal failure, falling over dead and sh*tting your own lungs out. But, hey, look into it.

oh, you forgot my favorite (unless that was the painful swelling part...)

if you maintain an erection for longer than 4 hrs you may be experiencing a condition called priapism. seek immediate medical attention to get your cawk drained by a big farking needle!

Splinshints: bidness: Why do people get so uptight and moralistic at the thought of someone else getting jollies off a pill?

Because I have to work with them? Drive with them? Pay taxes to help treat them when they get out of control or cause themselves liver or renal failure?

Why do druggies think that their actions have no consequences for anybody but themselves? When you live in a society, your actions need to be balanced against the impact they have on that society and society has every right to comment on those actions when they could have a negative impact.

Damn straight. Let's ban painkillers.

Come to that, I'm tired of paying taxes and premiums for cigarette smokers and alcoholics, too. Let's ban tobacco and alcohol while we're at it.

divgradcurl: bunner: HAMMERTOE: Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that the U.S. is the only country where Big Pharma is allowed to market directly to the consumer. No? Ask your doctor if Viagra is right for you.

Side effects may include painful swelling, cancer, heart attack, suicidal depression, renal failure, falling over dead and sh*tting your own lungs out. But, hey, look into it.

oh, you forgot my favorite (unless that was the painful swelling part...)

if you maintain an erection for longer than 4 hrs you may be experiencing a condition called priapism. seek immediate medical attention to get your cawk drained by a big farking needle!

"If I have an erection for more than four hours, I ain't gonna be the one needing a doctor.' - Mike "Mad Dog" Adams

SharkTrager: AbbeySomeone: Rasraf Mekerk: This is why I don't prescribe narcotic pain meds. If your pain is that bad then you need to see a pain specialist.

/doctor

Physicians like you are the reason so many of us see alternative practitioners, and get better.

Because he's responsible and doesn't simply hand out scripts like he was working the counter at McDonalds?

He's not the kind of doctor that is the problem.

He is when you are in unbelievable pain and all the pain docs want to do is stick needles in you.

If I have an erection for more than four hours, I am calling everyone but my doctor!

Wait until that farktard tries to come off the Suboxone and realizes that it is harder to kick than anything else he was taking.

ajgeek: Stop being so terrifying so early in the day. Also, for the record I think insurance should be non-profit.

Also, stop being so terrifying. I might have mentioned that.

I'm sorry, what is the correct part of the day to mention plain-as-the-balls-on-a-tall-dog facts that are, at best, wiping their asses with the American quality of life?

ajgeek:

Stop being so terrifying so early in the day.

just do what all of my low-income friends do - use the ER for everything and never pay the bill. *shrug*
i have health insurance through my employer and everything is still a battle. you can always bargain your bills down though. our local Carve N Slice Hospital is thrilled to get even 1/10th of your balance from you. They forgave my $900 bill at $345.

back on topic: a 200mg+/day opiate habit may seem hipster-cool, until you OD twice in a year like my buddy and end up cup pissin' every day for years for your PO.

go read some stories on opiophile. i'll never take another pill again unless i absolutely must!!!

bunner: Feral Duhbya: heroine

CujoQuarrel: Heroine used to be legal. It's actually a brand name from Bayer that they lost the rights to (think Aspirin). It stands for Heroic Pain Reliever I think .

jjwars1: That includes illegal drugs like opium and heroine as well.

There isn't an E in heroin.

I know. That was sent from my iPhone. It can be difficult to type on a 3" surface with arthritic thumbs.

bunner: bunner: There isn't an E in heroin

I am incorrect. Let me rephrase that. There is only one E in heroin.

I know what you meant, but I'm not petty enough to get all hussy over it. People make mistakes OMG ZORKS!

jjwars1: I know. That was sent from my iPhone. It can be difficult to type on a 3" surface with arthritic thumbs.

Perhaps you need a sh*tstack of painkillers! Ask your doctor if you should be taking Heroin™. : )

I don't know how many times I've been in a doc's office and seen these slimy farkers milling around:

Because ignorance is painful.