Chocodiles?

I totally thought op was talking about cigs

Rincewind53: U.C.C. says that you can be liable for selling things that are inherently dangerous, even if you warn people.

So why can I still buy chainsaws and Tylenol?

Super Size it.

He said he became addicted and, despite the reactions that included hypothermia, suicidal feelings and temporary psychosis, continued to buy heavier doses, even after the drugs were made illegal.

Is hypothermia something that can be caused by internal mechanisms?

This is crap but if he can prove that employees knew he was ingesting it then he'll probably win.

America, what a country.

Of course, still not as bad as the guy in the Netherlands who bought a gun, used it to rob $X, got caught, and was allowed to deduct the cost of the gun from the amount of money he stole so that he would not have to pay back all of the money he stole!

We should just take his settlement out of the DEA's yearly budget.

AverageAmericanGuy: He said he became addicted and, despite the reactions that included hypothermia, suicidal feelings and temporary psychosis, continued to buy heavier doses, even after the drugs were made illegal.

Is hypothermia something that can be caused by internal mechanisms?

Hypothermia is just lowered core body temperature. It's typically caused by environmental factors but that isn't the only cause. Anything which makes your core temp drop is causing hypothermia. For example, if you're unable to shiver due to poor muscle response, that can cause hypothermia.

untaken_name: AverageAmericanGuy: He said he became addicted and, despite the reactions that included hypothermia, suicidal feelings and temporary psychosis, continued to buy heavier doses, even after the drugs were made illegal.

Is hypothermia something that can be caused by internal mechanisms?

Hypothermia is just lowered core body temperature. It's typically caused by environmental factors but that isn't the only cause. Anything which makes your core temp drop is causing hypothermia. For example, if you're unable to shiver due to poor muscle response, that can cause hypothermia.

I did not know that.

goatleggedfellow: If you legalize it and label it properly, the guy would have no case.

Oh, the wonders of the black market drug formulations.

Considering that it's already labeled "Not for human consumption", he shouldn't have a case now. If you ask me, it's only because the US has about 3/4 of the world's lawyers that this is even going anywhere to start with.

Yea, unless he can prove that he made the salesperson aware that he consumes the product, he shouldn't have a case. However, given the litigiousness of society, he'll probably win anyway.

Also, hypothermia? This shiat lowers core temp? Or was he outside doing this crap and it got so cold that his already constricted blood vessels were like 'fark this, we're done'?

I've been snorting bath salts for a while.
My blood pressure is a little bit higher, but my arteries feel cleaner.

chaosweaver: Also, hypothermia? This shiat lowers core temp? Or was he outside doing this crap and it got so cold that his already constricted blood vessels were like 'fark this, we're done'?

Another side effect: not listening to your mother when she tells you to put on a coat.

fusillade762: chaosweaver: Also, hypothermia? This shiat lowers core temp? Or was he outside doing this crap and it got so cold that his already constricted blood vessels were like 'fark this, we're done'?

Another side effect: not listening to your mother when she tells you to put on a coat.

Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

Why did you think there were so many Bed, Bath, and Beyonds in bad neighborhoods? OPEN YOUR EYES, MAN.

untaken_name: wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

Why did you think there were so many Bed, Bath, and Beyonds in bad neighborhoods? OPEN YOUR EYES, MAN. WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

FTFY

untaken_name: wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

Why did you think there were so many Bed, Bath, and Beyonds in bad neighborhoods? OPEN YOUR EYES, MAN.

I guess I thought the "beyond" part was kitchen gadgets. I see now I was mistaken.

AverageAmericanGuy: untaken_name: wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

Why did you think there were so many Bed, Bath, and Beyonds in bad neighborhoods? OPEN YOUR EYES, MAN. WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

FTFY

Meh, poh-tay-toh, toe-mah-toh.

I clicked on the link expecting a frivolous lawsuit that exemplifies America's trend of ZERO personal accountability... but that's not what I found.

Was this guy an idiot for snorting anything to begin with? Yes. That said, anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see that the store owner didn't innocently sell this product, thinking that they were actual bath salts, and that they would be used as such. The store profited from selling a dangerous substance that they knew was in demand for the purpose of getting high, despite the misleading labelling they used in an effort to skirt legal repercussions. Furthermore, because it was labeled in name and in warnings for its cover description, instead of what any reasonable person in the store owner's position would have known they were being used for, they lacked the proper health warnings for the substance's actual intended use. I've looked these "bath salt" drugs up, and they have some seriously nasty and life-threatening effects that rival a lot of the other hardcore street drugs out there.

I don't think the claimant deserves much, personally, but I hope he succeeds in his suit... if only because the defendant definitely needs to suffer punitive damages.

I figured this would be about some numbskull drinking raw milk.

wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

No, they cannot not. But, to get around bans on selling synthetic drugs that can be used to get high they are sometimes labeled as bath salts.

JRoo: LinaBo: I clicked on the link expecting a frivolous lawsuit that exemplifies America's trend of ZERO personal accountability... but that's not what I found.

Was this guy an idiot for snorting anything to begin with? Yes. That said, anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see that the store owner didn't innocently sell this product, thinking that they were actual bath salts, and that they would be used as such. The store profited from selling a dangerous substance that they knew was in demand for the purpose of getting high, despite the misleading labelling they used in an effort to skirt legal repercussions. Furthermore, because it was labeled in name and in warnings for its cover description, instead of what any reasonable person in the store owner's position would have known they were being used for, they lacked the proper health warnings for the substance's actual intended use. I've looked these "bath salt" drugs up, and they have some seriously nasty and life-threatening effects that rival a lot of the other hardcore street drugs out there.

I don't think the claimant deserves much, personally, but I hope he succeeds in his suit... if only because the defendant definitely needs to suffer punitive damages.


So now anyone can sue someone who sells cigarettes?

Only if the sale of cigarettes was banned and the person selling them labeled them as something else, such as incense sticks.

Wait. What can you do with morning glory seeds?

AverageAmericanGuy: Wait. What can you do with morning glory seeds?

Don't try it. It's bad for you and it's not that much fun.

ghare: AverageAmericanGuy: Wait. What can you do with morning glory seeds?

Don't try it. It's bad for you and it's not that much fun.

Plant them in the spring and get some nice trellis decorations?

I never knew... :-(

wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

It's not the same as all that. It's a new PCP-like drug sold as 'bath salts' at gas stations in order to fly under the radar, more or less.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/us/17salts.html?pagewanted=all

This:


Is not the same as this:


Though it may look much the same.

steve_lou: wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

It's not the same as all that. It's a new PCP-like drug sold as 'bath salts' at gas stations in order to fly under the radar, more or less.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/us/17salts.html?pagewanted=all

This:
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Is not the same as this:
[www.vermontsoap.com image 432x291]

Though it may look much the same.

Okay. Serious question.

I haven't been to a head shop in a long time, and pay at the pump most of the time, so I have no idea which is which. I suppose the top image is showing the drug bath salts and the bottom is showing some frou frou shiat meant for baths.

But not an insignificant number of the packages shown in the first pic are products made for kids. They are sold at Babies R Us in Japan for kids' baths. Many times they come with toys embedded in the middle.

Is this the same stuff?

Not that I support the guy, but these "bath salts" can't be used as bath salts.
It's just flower scented amphetamine with various things added for that extra oomph.

AverageAmericanGuy:
Is this the same stuff?

Sort of yes, and sort of no. They're different chemically, but in both cases you put them in bathwater in order to make it smell nice/give you a mild caffeine-level high.

Snorting it is farking retarded regardless of whether it's the chemically refunctionalized drug version or the kiddie crushed caffeine pill version. It's a refunctionalized drug-like substance that gives you a general feeling if it's steaming around you, it's not an actual drug to take directly.

Don't do any drug you don't do research on. Know what the hell you're dealing with before you put it up your nose.

steve_lou: wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

It's not the same as all that. It's a new PCP-like drug sold as 'bath salts' at gas stations in order to fly under the radar, more or less.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/us/17salts.html?pagewanted=all

This:
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x375]

Is not the same as this:
[www.vermontsoap.com image 432x291]

Though it may look much the same.

Has anyone ever tried smoking a loufa?

Mock26: steve_lou: wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

It's not the same as all that. It's a new PCP-like drug sold as 'bath salts' at gas stations in order to fly under the radar, more or less.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/us/17salts.html?pagewanted=all

This:
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x375]

Is not the same as this:
[www.vermontsoap.com image 432x291]

Though it may look much the same.

Has anyone ever tried smoking a loufa?

Yes, but they don't taste right unless you grill them.

JRoo: LinaBo: I clicked on the link expecting a frivolous lawsuit that exemplifies America's trend of ZERO personal accountability... but that's not what I found.

Was this guy an idiot for snorting anything to begin with? Yes. That said, anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see that the store owner didn't innocently sell this product, thinking that they were actual bath salts, and that they would be used as such. The store profited from selling a dangerous substance that they knew was in demand for the purpose of getting high, despite the misleading labelling they used in an effort to skirt legal repercussions. Furthermore, because it was labeled in name and in warnings for its cover description, instead of what any reasonable person in the store owner's position would have known they were being used for, they lacked the proper health warnings for the substance's actual intended use. I've looked these "bath salt" drugs up, and they have some seriously nasty and life-threatening effects that rival a lot of the other hardcore street drugs out there.

I don't think the claimant deserves much, personally, but I hope he succeeds in his suit... if only because the defendant definitely needs to suffer punitive damages.


So now anyone can sue someone who sells cigarettes?

Or spray paint

The difference between these "bath salts" and spray paint is that spray paint is paint but the "bath salts" are not bath salts.

The store owner should be applauded for their efforts to weed out the societally useless from the gene pool. Anything can potentially be used to harm oneself or others, so we should ban everything or make people sign documents waiving their "right" to blame someone else for their own idiocy?

Mock26: steve_lou: wedding vegetables: Bath salts can get you high? I thought they were just something to fill out gift sets for ladies you don't really know but for some reason are compelled to buy a gift for.

It's not the same as all that. It's a new PCP-like drug sold as 'bath salts' at gas stations in order to fly under the radar, more or less.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/us/17salts.html?pagewanted=all

This:
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x375]

Is not the same as this:
[www.vermontsoap.com image 432x291]

Though it may look much the same.

Has anyone ever tried smoking a loufa?


Couldn't keep it lit.