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2012-05-10 08:44:11 AM  
Nothin is going to happen to Joe. These trumped up charges all disappear in November when the current administration gets the boot. Expect to see obstruction charges for Eric Holder about this time next year. THAT will be something to actually celebrate.
 
2012-05-10 08:45:16 AM  
Joe is an american hero, he treats criminals like criminals not spoiled brats... Long live joe!
 
2012-05-10 08:45:27 AM  

Gumaraid: Nothin is going to happen to Joe. These trumped up charges all disappear in November when the current administration gets the boot. Expect to see obstruction charges for Eric Holder about this time next year. THAT will be something to actually celebrate.


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2012-05-10 08:45:44 AM  
This guy is the Father Coughlin of the 21st Century.
 
2012-05-10 08:48:19 AM  

JonnyG:
Seriously, wtf?

I seem to remember some German guy espousing similar rhetoric. Rights for me but not for ye ... etc.
Wonder what became of that guy?

Wow. Because I'd like to live in a world with a greatly reduced crime rate, I'm Hitler. That's rich.

Score 1 for me.


No, you asserting that removing all the rights of arbitrary groups in the name of public safety will greatly reduce crime makes you sound like Hitler.

If you have some evidence that persecuting and disenfranchising portions of the population will greatly reduce crime, I'd love to hear it. Desperate people have never turn to crime.
 
2012-05-10 08:52:16 AM  

Alphax: Gumaraid: Nothin is going to happen to Joe. These trumped up charges all disappear in November when the current administration gets the boot. Expect to see obstruction charges for Eric Holder about this time next year. THAT will be something to actually celebrate.

(ohwaityourseriourletmelaughharder.jpg)


Best get back to tending your weed and leave the justice stuff to the big boys and girls.
 
2012-05-10 08:53:24 AM  

Gumaraid: Alphax: Gumaraid: Nothin is going to happen to Joe. These trumped up charges all disappear in November when the current administration gets the boot. Expect to see obstruction charges for Eric Holder about this time next year. THAT will be something to actually celebrate.

(ohwaityourseriourletmelaughharder.jpg)

Best get back to tending your weed and leave the justice stuff to the big boys and girls.


Now I really AM laughing harder!
 
2012-05-10 08:54:12 AM  

Madbassist1: What is this nonsense about the Black Panthers that people keep bringing up? The Black Panthers are farking nothing. A small group (I swear there isnt any more than three or four of them) with no pull, no influence and no criminal enterprise as far as I can tell...Why would the DOJ be after them? I don't get it...


You can thank vegasj for that nonsense. Go back through the thread and skim over his posts and you'll likely come to the same conclusion that I did...that vegasj masturbates furiously to those old black and white photos taken at lynching parties where all the white people were standing around socializing and having fun while the black people swing by their necks from a nearby tree.
 
2012-05-10 09:09:44 AM  

LeoffDaGrate: Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: II keep a very comprehensive, extended ignore list that rarely gets updated these days sense I have all the trolls and morons on there. Until this thread. Found 4 new additions in about 2 minutes. That shows that he's doing a good job of rattling some cages.

Reading Fark's forums must be very boring for you then. Ignoring trolls I can understand, but if you are extending it to Morons, which can basically include anyone who you disagree with, then why even bother coming here for discussion if all you're going to get is a bunch of "yep, I agree!"


I have a couple of people I disagree with favorited. The key to it is they must be articulate, knowledgeable and actually have something to say about the issue at hand. I also have several trolls favorited. Prince of Fark is amazing. A good troll, one who can actually adapt to the thread or topic, is usually hilarious. The problem comes in when you get the lazy ones, and I think you all are underestimating how many alts the lazy ones have.

Icetech3: Joe is an american hero, he treats criminals like criminals not spoiled brats... Long live joe!


This is the kind of troll post that gets the ignore. The poster is probably in multiple forums right now, posting this stuff and has nothing original or new to add to the conversation. It is wasted space, designed to drive responses with the minimal amount of effort. It lacks subtlety and it is waste of space when I have to read through a whole thread and see the equivalent of this all the time.

bim1154: Like someone else above said, you must be some kind of pussy.


Touching, but there hasn't been a personal insult against me yet that has gotten someone added to ignore. And this is Fark, try adding a few more adjectives in there at least. If you put together a really great combo, I'll even add you to my Fark page.
 
2012-05-10 09:10:52 AM  

bim1154: Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher:
I keep a very comprehensive, extended ignore list that rarely gets updated these days sense I have all the trolls and morons on there. Until this thread. Found 4 new additions in about 2 minutes. That shows that he's doing a good job of rattling some cages.

I've always found an ignore list on Fark to be odd. I have yet to ever use it although I know quite a few people have put me on theirs when they accused me of one thing or another, which was most always untrue. At the same time quite a few people who are more articulate than me have bested me in debates or discussions, but not once have I ever used ignore list. My question is that, Why the fark do you even come to a site like Fark where making fun of everything is the norm? Like someone else above said, you must be some kind of pussy.


+1
 
2012-05-10 09:11:29 AM  
By all means, god forbid anyone actually try to stop illegal immigration or enforce the laws. Yet they refuse to go after those states and cities that provide sanctuary, in viloation of federal law but who cares about that. The Obama DOJ is a joke.
 
2012-05-10 09:11:40 AM  

liam76: Madbassist1: What is this nonsense about the Black Panthers that people keep bringing up? The Black Panthers are farking nothing. A small group (I swear there isnt any more than three or four of them) with no pull, no influence and no criminal enterprise as far as I can tell...Why would the DOJ be after them? I don't get it...

The size of a group shouldn't dictate if it is ok to offer money to capture people.


but its not a Federal goddamned case. Jurisdiction, mutherfarker, do you speak it?
 
2012-05-10 09:15:12 AM  

Joe Blowme: By all means, god forbid anyone actually try to stop illegal immigration or enforce the laws. Yet they refuse to go after those states and cities that provide sanctuary, in viloation of federal law but who cares about that. The Obama DOJ is a joke.


Well please explain how federal deportations are higher under Obama than any other president? You can enforce immigration law without violating the rights of people. Sheriff Joe just chooses to violate peoples rights because he is a bigoted asshole.
 
2012-05-10 09:24:20 AM  

ongbok: Joe Blowme: By all means, god forbid anyone actually try to stop illegal immigration or enforce the laws. Yet they refuse to go after those states and cities that provide sanctuary, in viloation of federal law but who cares about that. The Obama DOJ is a joke.

Well please explain how federal deportations are higher under Obama than any other president? You can enforce immigration law without violating the rights of people. Sheriff Joe just chooses to violate peoples rights because he is a bigoted asshole.


Well please explain how Joe chooses to violate peoples rights. If you have some sort of evidence the DOJ would be most interested in speaking with you. And the failure of the DOJ is not all about illegal immigration, Black panther voting booth scandal along with putting bounties on people, fast and furrious, ect...
 
2012-05-10 09:26:55 AM  
OMG! OMG! OMG!

Is the O man REALLY gonna do it? Has he finally realized that the Teatards, Racists, and Derpers are just NEVER going do anything but outright hate him? So he can finally just cut loose and say FARK IT! I've tried to be centrists, and compromise, now I'm just gonna do what I think is right and hope you all die of apoplectic seizures!

i1159.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-10 09:29:13 AM  

Joe Blowme: ongbok: Joe Blowme: By all means, god forbid anyone actually try to stop illegal immigration or enforce the laws. Yet they refuse to go after those states and cities that provide sanctuary, in viloation of federal law but who cares about that. The Obama DOJ is a joke.

Well please explain how federal deportations are higher under Obama than any other president? You can enforce immigration law without violating the rights of people. Sheriff Joe just chooses to violate peoples rights because he is a bigoted asshole.

Well please explain how Joe chooses to violate peoples rights. If you have some sort of evidence the DOJ would be most interested in speaking with you. And the failure of the DOJ is not all about illegal immigration, Black panther voting booth scandal along with putting bounties on people, fast and furrious, ect...


This shows the level of your intelligence. Because if you did any research or read this thread you will find that it was the Bush administration that downgraded the charges from criminal to civil, and the Obama administration that pursued the civil charges and got a judgement against one of them. But those are all lies right?
 
2012-05-10 09:30:53 AM  
It would best serve the country if Obama and the DOJ were arrested for unAmerican activities.
 
2012-05-10 09:34:39 AM  

tony41454: It would best serve the country if Obama and the DOJ were arrested for unAmerican activities.


Talk about phoning it in....

0/10

You should have at least used "0bama" or "taxbama"... something.
 
2012-05-10 09:34:48 AM  

Joe Blowme: fast and furrious


wat?
 
2012-05-10 09:44:51 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The trolling in this thread is disappointingly lazy.


From the looks of things, we're well on our way into a "quantity-over-quality" phase here. Gonna need a bigger weed eater.
 
2012-05-10 09:46:12 AM  

Mixolydian Master: Anyone else have this thought process?


It is plausible. I would believe it. A good defense is a good offence. It is not even a conspiracy theory because it is simple and straight forward. If you know somone is about to go after you, the dumbest thing to do is just wait for it. Going after your opponent first can certainly be strategic.

If you know your neighbour is about to sue you for something, sue him first that way it looks he is just being vindictive.
 
2012-05-10 09:49:38 AM  

Gyrfalcon: MorrisBird: Gyrfalcon: They'd have to prove there was some racketeering and/or corrupt ORGANIZATION (besides the sheriff's office) going on, and that's a tough nut to make.

I'm going to disagree with you on that. RICO is incredibly easy to establish. And, I don't know why you're excluding the sheriff's office as a corrupt organization. Have you ever been involved in a criminal RICO action? Because, I have.

Wow, you're in the Mafia? I'm impressed. ;)

I have never heard of a sheriff's department being indicted as a corrupt organization under RICO. I'm delighted to learn it can be done. I was under the impression it was hard to do, since it never seems to be done to bring down the gangs that everyone frets about here in Los Angeles. I'd have thought RICO would be the best way to nail those thugs.

Genuine question: If it's not hard to do, why isn't it done more often?


From my understanding (IANAL, etc), federal RICO cases are usually (but not necessarily) dependent on interstate commerce racketeering (mobsters hijacking cigarette trucks or some such) or something else at the federal level. However, Tennessee recently passed an expanded state-level RICO statute that allows state/local authorities to build RICO casesagainst street gangs. As for why the Feds couldn't build a RICO case against Joe Arpaio, I'd have to guess that any crimes in question probably don't extend out of the county, let alone the state borders, so interstate commerce is a non-starter. I'd imagine it'd be kind of silly in court (although theoretically possible) to bring a RICO case against Arpaio based on civil rights violations. They don't want to use him as a test case, would be my guess -- they want to make sure the charges stick. But my legal education is limited to NCIS and Law & Order reruns, so take that how you will...
 
2012-05-10 09:51:33 AM  
Holder should be brought up on conspiracy, murder, failure to perform Official duties, and possibly treason.

If Arpario is going down, Holder is sure as hell going down with him. Hey you piece of shiat Holder, farking resign already you scumbag. Remember that time you dismissed charges against the Black Panthers, you racist biatch.
 
2012-05-10 09:51:50 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think the lawsuit will matter much when the DOJ and FBI are done with the criminal investigations. Joe needs to see the inside of a cell until he dies.


No.. he needs to be housed in an open tent while wearing a pink jumpsuit.
 
2012-05-10 09:53:33 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Uchiha_Cycliste: fark'emfeed'emfish: Uchiha_Cycliste: King Something: ElLoco: BSABSVR: You can't vote Romney if you're in the middle of a rage stroke.

Wanna bet?

Explain George W's 2nd term.

Two words:

Diebold.

Ohio.

Call and raise Fl, chads.

I'm all in,

supreme

court

I'm out. =/

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Best part....i451.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-10 09:53:43 AM  

Evil High Priest: Uchiha_Cycliste: jty: TsukasaK: jty: Wow, just had a chance to read this thread. Shiat got trolly fast. Is anyone still interested in talking about beer? I'd rather do that.

Okay. How does someone who lives in the middle of nowhere get access to better varieties of beer? There are a couple of breweries out in Wyomingland, but the best variety I've been able to find is the local Old Chicago (which is nice, but expensive as many farks). Is there like, a mail order beer club or something?

Uchiha_Cycliste: jty: Wow, just had a chance to read this thread. Shiat got trolly fast. Is anyone still interested in talking about beer? I'd rather do that.

oooh! ooh! I wanna talk about beer.

DONE! I like beer and cycling, too. Didn't get a chance to ride tonight, though. Right now I'm drinking an Acme California IPA. First time I've had one, pretty decent. Not a huge fan of a lot of hops either, but I do enjoy it after a long workout like I had tonight. A good IPA is like eating your beer, then. Might follow it up with a Bells Oberon that I think I still have hiding in the fridge. Good summer beer.

These day's I've been sticking to IPAs and Arrogant bastard myself. Generally a 22 after I get home is enough to stop me from bounding off the walls because of coffee, and well, riding. Acme California eh? where would I find this? On that note, which other IPA's have you enjoyed recently so I can gauge your taste. Racer 5, Niskiki, Lagunutas , and Stone have been my mainstays. (for post ride beverages.)

You might want to try Lagunitas' Hop Stoopid. Very nice! Bone Yard is doing good things too.


One of my new favorites is Delirium Noctournum. Medium gravity (8.5%) moderately bitter, but good finish and is a rare beer for me that tastes better when it's a little bit colder than room temp. Little hard to find, though.

A much easier to find beer that is also much cheaper is Honey Brown. I use it as my usual when I don't want to pay a premium on New Castles. Very smooth, not bitter, and a great fnish on it. And with a price of about $10 for a 12 pack makes it awesome stuff.
 
2012-05-10 09:56:39 AM  

ongbok: Joe Blowme: ongbok: Joe Blowme: By all means, god forbid anyone actually try to stop illegal immigration or enforce the laws. Yet they refuse to go after those states and cities that provide sanctuary, in viloation of federal law but who cares about that. The Obama DOJ is a joke.

Well please explain how federal deportations are higher under Obama than any other president? You can enforce immigration law without violating the rights of people. Sheriff Joe just chooses to violate peoples rights because he is a bigoted asshole.

Well please explain how Joe chooses to violate peoples rights. If you have some sort of evidence the DOJ would be most interested in speaking with you. And the failure of the DOJ is not all about illegal immigration, Black panther voting booth scandal along with putting bounties on people, fast and furrious, ect...

This shows the level of your intelligence. Because if you did any research or read this thread you will find that it was the Bush administration that downgraded the charges from criminal to civil, and the Obama administration that pursued the civil charges and got a judgement against one of them. But those are all lies right?


Lies, maybe not. Not the whole truth? definitely..."When none of the defendants who were charged appeared in court to answer the charges, the career attorneys pursuing the lawsuit assumed that they would win it by default. However the career attorneys' move to pursue a default judgment against the defendants was overruled by two of their line superiors, Loretta King who was acting Assistant Attorney General and Steve Rosenbaum, Acting Deputy Assistant Attorney General.[3][10][12]"

And the 1 guy they did persue? How did that go?
" A decision was then made to dismiss the charges against NBPP chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz, the NBPP and Jerry Jackson. The charge against Minister King Samir Shabazz, the individual who was seen brandishing a nightstick, was maintained but narrowed. The original charge against Minister King Samir Shabazz sought an injunction prohibiting acts of intimidation anywhere in the United States, but the charge was narrowed to apply only within the City of Philadelphia. The Justice Department then sought and obtained a default judgment against King Samir Shabazz. The injunction would prohibit Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years.[10]


Now, if these people were weraing KKK robes instead of Black Panther uniforms do you think this would have been dropped like it was?
 
2012-05-10 09:58:29 AM  

lincoln65: [i.qkme.me image 600x457]


Yes. Yes you do.

If you have a problem with that then perhaps you should work on the homeless problem.
 
2012-05-10 09:58:52 AM  

nickerj1: Holder should be brought up on conspiracy, murder, failure to perform Official duties, and possibly treason.

If Arpario is going down, Holder is sure as hell going down with him. Hey you piece of shiat Holder, farking resign already you scumbag. Remember that time you dismissed charges against the Black Panthers, you racist biatch.


Except for it was the Bush administration that downgraded charges against the NBPP to civil charges, and the DOJ under Holder that pursued the civil charges against the only NBPP member that they could prove did anything wrong under the charges. The only people that believe what you said and keep spewing that are racist, you biatch.
 
2012-05-10 10:00:28 AM  

Giltric: b04155: loooongview1: The one-two punch of Obama publicly announcing his support of gay marriage and this suit might be enough to warrant this as a good day in the history of civil rights and liberties in this country and a blow against bigotry and discrimination.

/At the same time that usually more moderate state above me just banned gay marriage and civil unions, and states across the country are trying to enact many of the same racially profiling laws as exist in Arizona.
So probably not.

If the federal government is pro-gay rights why don't they just restrict federal aid to states that are anti-gay. For other issues that have a pretty wide range of gray that may not be a good tactic, but this issue is clearly cut and dry and will eventually be accepted by all - so just force the hand already.

Aside from marriage, what other right is being denied homosexuals leading you to use the plural of right.


singular.
 
2012-05-10 10:01:17 AM  

nickerj1: Holder should be brought up on conspiracy, murder, failure to perform Official duties, and possibly treason.

If Arpario is going down, Holder is sure as hell going down with him. Hey you piece of shiat Holder, farking resign already you scumbag. Remember that time you dismissed charges against the Black Panthers, you racist biatch.


Already debunked in the thread.
 
2012-05-10 10:02:42 AM  

ongbok: nickerj1: Holder should be brought up on conspiracy, murder, failure to perform Official duties, and possibly treason.

If Arpario is going down, Holder is sure as hell going down with him. Hey you piece of shiat Holder, farking resign already you scumbag. Remember that time you dismissed charges against the Black Panthers, you racist biatch.

Except for it was the Bush administration that downgraded charges against the NBPP to civil charges, and the DOJ under Holder that pursued the civil charges against the only NBPP member that they could prove did anything wrong under the charges. The only people that believe what you said and keep spewing that are racist, you biatch.


So J Christian Adams just resigned for nothing, then? How about you learn some facts about the case before you look stupid.

/OPERATION FAST AND FURIOUS
 
2012-05-10 10:06:36 AM  

Joe Blowme: ongbok: Joe Blowme: ongbok: Joe Blowme: By all means, god forbid anyone actually try to stop illegal immigration or enforce the laws. Yet they refuse to go after those states and cities that provide sanctuary, in viloation of federal law but who cares about that. The Obama DOJ is a joke.

Well please explain how federal deportations are higher under Obama than any other president? You can enforce immigration law without violating the rights of people. Sheriff Joe just chooses to violate peoples rights because he is a bigoted asshole.

Well please explain how Joe chooses to violate peoples rights. If you have some sort of evidence the DOJ would be most interested in speaking with you. And the failure of the DOJ is not all about illegal immigration, Black panther voting booth scandal along with putting bounties on people, fast and furrious, ect...

This shows the level of your intelligence. Because if you did any research or read this thread you will find that it was the Bush administration that downgraded the charges from criminal to civil, and the Obama administration that pursued the civil charges and got a judgement against one of them. But those are all lies right?

Lies, maybe not. Not the whole truth? definitely..."When none of the defendants who were charged appeared in court to answer the charges, the career attorneys pursuing the lawsuit assumed that they would win it by default. However the career attorneys' move to pursue a default judgment against the defendants was overruled by two of their line superiors, Loretta King who was acting Assistant Attorney General and Steve Rosenbaum, Acting Deputy Assistant Attorney General.[3][10][12]"

And the 1 guy they did persue? How did that go?
" A decision was then made to dismiss the charges against NBPP chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz, the NBPP and Jerry Jackson. The charge against Minister King Samir Shabazz, the individual who was seen brandishing a nightstick, was maintained but narrowed. The original charge agains ...


So are you willing to admit your little narrative of the situation was a flat out lie, and will call out anybody who spouts off that same narrative a liar?

And they did what they were supposed to do, they pursued the civil case against the only person that they could prove did anything wrong. They had no proof anybody else did anything wrong because nobody came forward to them and made a complaint.

But that is still racist, right?
 
2012-05-10 10:07:46 AM  

SageC: [i149.photobucket.com image 640x262]


How the hell did New Jersey escape your list?


Also, there is definite racial bias in not prosecuting the NBPP...
 
2012-05-10 10:09:10 AM  

nickerj1: ongbok: nickerj1: Holder should be brought up on conspiracy, murder, failure to perform Official duties, and possibly treason.

If Arpario is going down, Holder is sure as hell going down with him. Hey you piece of shiat Holder, farking resign already you scumbag. Remember that time you dismissed charges against the Black Panthers, you racist biatch.

Except for it was the Bush administration that downgraded charges against the NBPP to civil charges, and the DOJ under Holder that pursued the civil charges against the only NBPP member that they could prove did anything wrong under the charges. The only people that believe what you said and keep spewing that are racist, you biatch.

So J Christian Adams just resigned for nothing, then? How about you learn some facts about the case before you look stupid.

/OPERATION FAST AND FURIOUS


Actually he resigned to right a book and become a right wing commentator, which isn't going to well for him. And why don't you go on Wikipedia and look up the case. The facts are all there, so you are the one looking like an idiot.
 
2012-05-10 10:10:19 AM  

bunner: rufus-t-firefly: Yeah, "human" rights aren't for ALL humans, are they?

I don't think it's a matter of abdicating your human rights so much as, if you're running around committing hateful, ugly heinous crimes that deprive people of their property, their dignity and perhaps even their lives, you sort of abdicated your humanity.


The Constitution disagrees.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


We give them a sentence, they serve it out. We don't add punishments on top of what was decided in court (apart from punishments for infractions while incarcerated).
 
2012-05-10 10:16:53 AM  

x23: o5iiawah:
[wolf.house.gov image 366x344]
Hey guys, whats going on in here?

why don't you show the unedited photo? is it because it basically destroys the pretend 'voter intimidation' talking point? or is it because you just like being a disingenuous liar?


Wait, so that is the 'voter intimidation' thing people are carrying on about? Two skinny disheveled looking guys hanging around outside a polling place. Seriously? If that is the face of the New Blank Panther Party then they need to work a bit harder if they are trying to scare people with their sad little racist antics (yes, the NBPP has been dismissed as a bunch of wackjob racists by none other than Huey P. Newton).
 
2012-05-10 10:17:37 AM  

Madbassist1: liam76: Madbassist1: What is this nonsense about the Black Panthers that people keep bringing up? The Black Panthers are farking nothing. A small group (I swear there isnt any more than three or four of them) with no pull, no influence and no criminal enterprise as far as I can tell...Why would the DOJ be after them? I don't get it...

The size of a group shouldn't dictate if it is ok to offer money to capture people.

but its not a Federal goddamned case.


Unless the NBPP is entirely located in Florida, then yes it is a federal case.

Jurisdiction, mutherfarker, do you speak it?
 
2012-05-10 10:18:13 AM  

ongbok: nickerj1: Holder should be brought up on conspiracy, murder, failure to perform Official duties, and possibly treason.

If Arpario is going down, Holder is sure as hell going down with him. Hey you piece of shiat Holder, farking resign already you scumbag. Remember that time you dismissed charges against the Black Panthers, you racist biatch.

Except for it was the Bush administration that downgraded charges against the NBPP to civil charges, and the DOJ under Holder that pursued the civil charges against the only NBPP member that they could prove did anything wrong under the charges. The only people that believe what you said and keep spewing that are racist, you biatch.


WRONG they had default judgements against them all but then ....
"When none of the defendants who were charged appeared in court to answer the charges, the career attorneys pursuing the lawsuit assumed that they would win it by default. However the career attorneys' move to pursue a default judgment against the defendants was overruled by two of their line superiors, Loretta King who was acting Assistant Attorney General and Steve Rosenbaum, Acting Deputy Assistant Attorney General.[3][10][12]"


" A decision was then made to dismiss the charges against NBPP chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz, the NBPP and Jerry Jackson. The charge against Minister King Samir Shabazz, the individual who was seen brandishing a nightstick, was maintained but narrowed. The original charge against Minister King Samir Shabazz sought an injunction prohibiting acts of intimidation anywhere in the United States, but the charge was narrowed to apply only within the City of Philadelphia. The Justice Department then sought and obtained a default judgment against King Samir Shabazz. The injunction would prohibit Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years.[10]"
 
2012-05-10 10:20:08 AM  

ongbok: nickerj1: ongbok: nickerj1: Holder should be brought up on conspiracy, murder, failure to perform Official duties, and possibly treason.

If Arpario is going down, Holder is sure as hell going down with him. Hey you piece of shiat Holder, farking resign already you scumbag. Remember that time you dismissed charges against the Black Panthers, you racist biatch.

Except for it was the Bush administration that downgraded charges against the NBPP to civil charges, and the DOJ under Holder that pursued the civil charges against the only NBPP member that they could prove did anything wrong under the charges. The only people that believe what you said and keep spewing that are racist, you biatch.

So J Christian Adams just resigned for nothing, then? How about you learn some facts about the case before you look stupid.

/OPERATION FAST AND FURIOUS

Actually he resigned to right a book and become a right wing commentator, which isn't going to well for him. And why don't you go on Wikipedia and look up the case. The facts are all there, so you are the one looking like an idiot.


Um... that's nice. Except the DOJ did everything possible to prevent the civil rights commission from performing a proper investigation, and they still concluded the DOJ had multiple specific instances of biasing against criminal prosecution when there were white victims.

And I don't give two shiats who was President at the time. I don't even know why you're bringing that up. The issue is that Holder is a piece of shiat AG. Just like Gonzales was.
 
2012-05-10 10:22:47 AM  

OscarTamerz: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x362]

Obama better extradite him to Nuevo Laredo just to be sure he gets an all Mexican jury. Interesting that they're going after Arpaio but left then Mayor Gavin Newsome alone after his protege murdered a woman's entire family. Newsome is a rising light in the Dumboshat party and Lieutenant Governor to Mr. Moonbeam so he's untouchable. Really they should have a change of venue and bring Newsome down to Orange County, we'd hang him high.


Speaking English, you ignorant twat, might go an awful long way towards being taken seriously by non-Freep Americans.
 
2012-05-10 10:22:53 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


I'm sure that doesn't need sliding scale codicil to mitigate circumstances wherein some crack dealer blew away a bunch of first third graders from the moonroof of his Maybach. When a punishment turns into a routine inconvenience, it becomes an opportunity cost. What's the phrase? "Charge it to the game"?
 
2012-05-10 10:25:09 AM  

Joe Blowme: Lies, maybe not. Not the whole truth? definitely..."When none of the defendants who were charged appeared in court to answer the charges, the career attorneys pursuing the lawsuit assumed that they would win it by default. However the career attorneys' move to pursue a default judgment against the defendants was overruled by two of their line superiors, Loretta King who was acting Assistant Attorney General and Steve Rosenbaum, Acting Deputy Assistant Attorney General.[3][10][12]"


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RIP LORETTA KING
 
2012-05-10 10:25:18 AM  

Joe Blowme: ongbok: nickerj1: Holder should be brought up on conspiracy, murder, failure to perform Official duties, and possibly treason.

If Arpario is going down, Holder is sure as hell going down with him. Hey you piece of shiat Holder, farking resign already you scumbag. Remember that time you dismissed charges against the Black Panthers, you racist biatch.

Except for it was the Bush administration that downgraded charges against the NBPP to civil charges, and the DOJ under Holder that pursued the civil charges against the only NBPP member that they could prove did anything wrong under the charges. The only people that believe what you said and keep spewing that are racist, you biatch.

WRONG they had default judgements against them all but then ....
"When none of the defendants who were charged appeared in court to answer the charges, the career attorneys pursuing the lawsuit assumed that they would win it by default. However the career attorneys' move to pursue a default judgment against the defendants was overruled by two of their line superiors, Loretta King who was acting Assistant Attorney General and Steve Rosenbaum, Acting Deputy Assistant Attorney General.[3][10][12]"


" A decision was then made to dismiss the charges against NBPP chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz, the NBPP and Jerry Jackson. The charge against Minister King Samir Shabazz, the individual who was seen brandishing a nightstick, was maintained but narrowed. The original charge against Minister King Samir Shabazz sought an injunction prohibiting acts of intimidation anywhere in the United States, but the charge was narrowed to apply only within the City of Philadelphia. The Justice Department then sought and obtained a default judgment against King Samir Shabazz. The injunction would prohibit Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years.[10]"


How is what I said wrong? Even though they had a default judgement they dismissed the cases against the people that they had no evidence on and pursed the case against the person who they actually had evidence of some wrong doing. Isn't that what a prosecutor is supposed to do? Pursue a case against the person you have evidence against and drop the case against the person who you have no evidence of any wrong doing against?
 
2012-05-10 10:26:28 AM  
"I'm NOT sure / first OR third graders", etc... No Mavis Beacon CD yet. : /
 
2012-05-10 10:28:03 AM  

nickerj1: ongbok: nickerj1: Holder should be brought up on conspiracy, murder, failure to perform Official duties, and possibly treason.

If Arpario is going down, Holder is sure as hell going down with him. Hey you piece of shiat Holder, farking resign already you scumbag. Remember that time you dismissed charges against the Black Panthers, you racist biatch.

Except for it was the Bush administration that downgraded charges against the NBPP to civil charges, and the DOJ under Holder that pursued the civil charges against the only NBPP member that they could prove did anything wrong under the charges. The only people that believe what you said and keep spewing that are racist, you biatch.

So J Christian Adams just resigned for nothing, then? How about you learn some facts about the case before you look stupid.


The Bush Justice Department decided to drop the criminal investigation, and proceeded with a civil suit.

The civil case was dismissed by Loretta King and Steven Rosenbaum, both of whom had worked with the Justice Department for 30 years (of course working in several administrations). J. Christian Adams testified that he does not know whether anyone higher up than them was involved.

So, yeah, Adams resigned for nothing. Well, other than to make loads of cash from bulk book purchases and right-wing WHAARGARBL commentary.

Do you even know what happened?

Jerry Jackson

The charges against Mr. Jackson were dropped because the police officer who responded to the incident ordered Mr. Samir Shabazz to leave but allowed Mr. Jackson to stay.

The officer interviewed Samir Shabazz, Jerry Jackson and a number of other people at the scene. The officer concluded that Jerry Jackson was indeed a certified poll watcher and decided that he was entitled to remain. The local authorities took no further action against Mr. Jackson as they concluded that his activities did not rise to the level of intimidation.


Do you want the Feds overruling local authorities? Or for a future administration to overrule a legal decision by a previous one (the decision to drop the criminal investigation)?

They dismissed the civil charges against Jackson, since the local authorities said that he wasn't intimidating anyone and had a right to be there.

As for the man with the nightstick - Shabazz - the Justice Department sought and obtained a default judgment against King Samir Shabazz. The injunction would prohibit Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years

WTF is the problem?
 
2012-05-10 10:32:06 AM  
The comments are golden...

"Over 400 sexual assaults un-investigated"
ROTFLMFAO.......OMG.... Hey uncivil Mormonphobic leftist aka progressive perv illegal immigrant lovers. How many of these sexual assaults were committed by illegal immigrants. Will the chant of racial profiling be spewed? When illegal immigrants are arested for sexual assault? I would speak out against uncivil Mormonphobic leftist aka progressive perv illegal immigrant lovers. But I do not want to be called closeted or latent uncivil Mormonphobic leftist aka progressive perv illegal immigrant lover. To quote lady gag gag. If you do not like it, then move to S.F. CA for milk and twinkies. Hey Dan! Want some white or chocolate milk with your twinkies? It will put lead in your pencil. Rumor has it. That on harvys headstone. A urinal is on the backside. Another rumor is the letters NAMBLA appear on top of the headstone.


"Mormonphobic leftist". Ha!
 
2012-05-10 10:36:38 AM  

ongbok: How is what I said wrong? Even though they had a default judgement they dismissed the cases against the people that they had no evidence on and pursed the case against the person who they actually had evidence of some wrong doing. Isn't that what a prosecutor is supposed to do? Pursue a case against the person you have evidence against and drop the case against the person who you have no evidence of any wrong doing against?


I would call the pictures alone evidence.

Other than intimidation I can't think of why you would be hanging out with a guy with a weapon at a polling place.


rufus-t-firefly: Do you want the Feds overruling local authorities?


If Zimmerman wasn't charged would you have wanted DOJ to look into it? Local authorities have been fine with Sheriff Joe, should the DOJ look into it?


rufus-t-firefly: As for the man with the nightstick - Shabazz - the Justice Department sought and obtained a default judgment against King Samir Shabazz. The injunction would prohibit Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years

WTF is the problem?


The problem is that the ruling amounts to saying follow the law. They should have goen for more.

And as far as "pursuing" the case they went for a ruling that basically said to follow the law. There was no punishment involved.
 
2012-05-10 10:40:02 AM  

liam76: ongbok: How is what I said wrong? Even though they had a default judgement they dismissed the cases against the people that they had no evidence on and pursed the case against the person who they actually had evidence of some wrong doing. Isn't that what a prosecutor is supposed to do? Pursue a case against the person you have evidence against and drop the case against the person who you have no evidence of any wrong doing against?

I would call the pictures alone evidence.

Other than intimidation I can't think of why you would be hanging out with a guy with a weapon at a polling place.

And as far as "pursuing" the case they went for a ruling that basically said to follow the law. There was no punishment involved.

rufus-t-firefly: Do you want the Feds overruling local authorities?

If Zimmerman wasn't charged would you have wanted DOJ to look into it? Local authorities have been fine with Sheriff Joe, should the DOJ look into it?


rufus-t-firefly: As for the man with the nightstick - Shabazz - the Justice Department sought and obtained a default judgment against King Samir Shabazz. The injunction would prohibit Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years

WTF is the problem?

The problem is that the ruling amounts to saying follow the law. They should have goen for more.

And as far as "pursuing" the case they went for a ruling that basically said to follow the law. There was no punishment involved.


that bit was meant for my Muy-thai fighting friend
 
2012-05-10 10:41:47 AM  

liam76: ongbok: How is what I said wrong? Even though they had a default judgement they dismissed the cases against the people that they had no evidence on and pursed the case against the person who they actually had evidence of some wrong doing. Isn't that what a prosecutor is supposed to do? Pursue a case against the person you have evidence against and drop the case against the person who you have no evidence of any wrong doing against?

I would call the pictures alone evidence.

Other than intimidation I can't think of why you would be hanging out with a guy with a weapon at a polling place.


And they went after the guy who was in the picture holding the nightstick. They had no complaints from anybody of any of them intimidating anybody, so they went with what they had and dismissed against the others.
 
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