The overflow began after one inch of rain fell in 15 minutes on the Brown County community. The deluge came on top of an accumulation of 1.8 inches in the previous 24 hours. The plant generally treats up to 450,000 gallons of sewage a day but received 3.5 times that much, or 1.6 million gallons, on May 3 due to excessive volumes of storm water flowing into village sanitary sewers, Mitchell said.

Just how crappy is your infrastructure that 3 inches of rain kills it? I'm assuming the ground was near saturation and that was all runoff, but come on. That says you can only handle one inch of rain on saturated soil, and that's incredibly poor planning. They must have untreated runoff every year.

Holy shiat!

Heh. "Dairy air" sounds just like "derrière".

As a WI resident not living far from the soaked areas, it's hard to tell whether it's sewer water we're smelling or if it's the paper mills in Kaukauna doing their typical business.

/pronounced Kah-KAW-nuh
//I pronounce it Cock And Awe

GAT_00: The overflow began after one inch of rain fell in 15 minutes on the Brown County community. The deluge came on top of an accumulation of 1.8 inches in the previous 24 hours. The plant generally treats up to 450,000 gallons of sewage a day but received 3.5 times that much, or 1.6 million gallons, on May 3 due to excessive volumes of storm water flowing into village sanitary sewers, Mitchell said.

Just how crappy is your infrastructure that 3 inches of rain kills it? I'm assuming the ground was near saturation and that was all runoff, but come on. That says you can only handle one inch of rain on saturated soil, and that's incredibly poor planning. They must have untreated runoff every year.

Business as usual, then. It sounds like my hometown, although this sounds more widespread, depending on what "swath of the state" means up north. (dnrtfa) One could say the air here is piquant after a moderate summer rain.

GAT_00: The overflow began after one inch of rain fell in 15 minutes on the Brown County community. The deluge came on top of an accumulation of 1.8 inches in the previous 24 hours. The plant generally treats up to 450,000 gallons of sewage a day but received 3.5 times that much, or 1.6 million gallons, on May 3 due to excessive volumes of storm water flowing into village sanitary sewers, Mitchell said.

Just how crappy is your infrastructure that 3 inches of rain kills it? I'm assuming the ground was near saturation and that was all runoff, but come on. That says you can only handle one inch of rain on saturated soil, and that's incredibly poor planning. They must have untreated runoff every year.

Sadly, you've just described much of America. Obama could poise himself to be one of the better Presidents, if he recreates a work-projects.

Shiat, the state already smelled bad enough as it is.

Milwaukee has a combined sewage system that is old as f... Overflows happen routinely. The rest of the state has separated systems and this type of thing is rare. Brown County's sewage treatment plant is actually very cool. It goes 11 stories underground, it would be the tallest building in Green Bay. In all my years in GB I've never heard of a sewage overflow. This is mostly rain water though. It really isn't that bad. Milwaukee dumps many times a year but the good thing you can say about them is that for the rest of the year they are treating everything that runs off... Brake dust, tires, etc. Most cities let that I'm the water.

You'd think they would learn from the last time this happened. I remember back in 2008, my little hick town flooded and kids were tubing down the streets. I was mildly disgusted, knowing that it was partly sewer water. :\

I will also add that it is rare to get that much rain at once in WI and it has been a wet year.

Either that or your basement. You choose.

We don't usually get that much rain in Wisconsin. By the time the super-moist air gets to us it's had to trek all the way from the Pacific coast or the gulf, and dumped all over a dozen states. We also don't have a lot of elevation changes in the state, so when it runs off it doesn't really run, it all slowly leeches to either the Mississippi or Lake Michigan. And when we do get this much moisture it usually shows up as snow, so we pile it in our Walmart parking lots until it's ready to melt.

Don't be alarmed. It's just the Brewers.

Pretty much like the theory that the huge amounts of dinosaur flatulence pumped enough methane into the atmosphere to cause the greenhouse gases to cause the global warming that led to their extinction. We're going to have more and more severe climate change incidents like this, unless we stop global warming, so vote for Scott Walker on election day June 5.

yellow_ducki: You'd think they would learn from the last time this happened. I remember back in 2008, my little hick town flooded and kids were tubing down the streets. I was mildly disgusted, knowing that it was partly sewer water. :\

At least they'll have strong immune systems. Like George Carlin said: "kids in my neighborhood never got sick because we swam in the East River. We were tempered in raw shiat!"

Cost cutting was a factor in this somehow, wasn't it?

remotecody: Milwaukee has a combined sewage system that is old as f... Overflows happen routinely. The rest of the state has separated systems and this type of thing is rare. Brown County's sewage treatment plant is actually very cool. It goes 11 stories underground, it would be the tallest building in Green Bay. In all my years in GB I've never heard of a sewage overflow. This is mostly rain water though. It really isn't that bad. Milwaukee dumps many times a year but the good thing you can say about them is that for the rest of the year they are treating everything that runs off... Brake dust, tires, etc. Most cities let that I'm the water.

Yeah, Cleveland has a combined overflow system as well. They signed a consent decree that will cost over $3B for a population of just over one million people, that's $12k for a family of four or about one years income after taxes, food and shelter are subtracted. I'm glad I'm on a septic system that's well maintained.

Kevin72: Pretty much like the theory that the huge amounts of dinosaur flatulence pumped enough methane into the atmosphere to cause the greenhouse gases to cause the global warming that led to their extinction. We're going to have more and more severe climate change incidents like this, unless we stop global warming, so vote for Scott Walker on election day June 5.

So when you think dinosaur farts, think Scott Walker.

remotecody: Milwaukee has a combined sewage system that is old as f... Overflows happen routinely. The rest of the state has separated systems and this type of thing is rare. Brown County's sewage treatment plant is actually very cool. It goes 11 stories underground, it would be the tallest building in Green Bay. In all my years in GB I've never heard of a sewage overflow. This is mostly rain water though. It really isn't that bad. Milwaukee dumps many times a year but the good thing you can say about them is that for the rest of the year they are treating everything that runs off... Brake dust, tires, etc. Most cities let that I'm the water.

Note to Chicagoans, the beaches are closed this summer. GTFO.

Deftoons: As a WI resident not living far from the soaked areas, it's hard to tell whether it's sewer water we're smelling or if it's the paper mills in Kaukauna doing their typical business.

/pronounced Kah-KAW-nuh
//I pronounce it Cock And Awe

Having spent 4 years in Appleton in the late 60s and early 70s, I can vouch for this. Judging from the last time I visited, though, it's much better now. Back then, I think we figured 19 paper mills in 19 miles of river.

GAT_00: The overflow began after one inch of rain fell in 15 minutes on the Brown County community. The deluge came on top of an accumulation of 1.8 inches in the previous 24 hours. The plant generally treats up to 450,000 gallons of sewage a day but received 3.5 times that much, or 1.6 million gallons, on May 3 due to excessive volumes of storm water flowing into village sanitary sewers, Mitchell said.

Just how crappy is your infrastructure that 3 inches of rain kills it? I'm assuming the ground was near saturation and that was all runoff, but come on. That says you can only handle one inch of rain on saturated soil, and that's incredibly poor planning. They must have untreated runoff every year.

During a visit to Appleton's wastewater treatment plant in 1970 or so, I asked the manager about an overflow system that they had in place that shunted untreated sewage into the Fox River. I asked specifically how often that system ended up being used. His response was it averaged about 40,000 gallons a day... I had hoped that things had improved, but it doesn't sound as if they have by much.

Too much cheese in your diet has been said to plug up the, uh, drainage.

Sewage smell =/= cow manure smell, just FYI. I've smelled both and while manure can be pretty strong when they've just been out spreading, unless you're standing right next to it (and are not at all familiar with the smell) you don't generally get the urge to throw up. The few times I've been in the vicinity of raw sewage, a strong gag reflex took place...

That said, when you build a sewage system in a flat landscape, there's only so much volume it can handle if there's flooding.

AverageAmericanGuy: Heh. "Dairy air" sounds just like "derrière".

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MaliFinn: Kevin72: Pretty much like the theory that the huge amounts of dinosaur flatulence pumped enough methane into the atmosphere to cause the greenhouse gases to cause the global warming that led to their extinction. We're going to have more and more severe climate change incidents like this, unless we stop global warming, so vote for Scott Walker on election day June 5.

So when you think dinosaur farts, think Scott Walker.

Pretty much, yes. Because both sides are failing to stop Global Warming, so vote for Scott Walker. If you're in Wisconsin and can't remember who to vote for June 5, just think of dinosaur farts and Scott Walker.

GAT_00: Just how crappy is your infrastructure that 3 inches of rain kills it?

Answer: The kind that a guy like Scott Walker slashes the budget for in order to afford more tax breaks for his Koch overlords.

S--- Happens. Especially when It's raining. When it rains for more than a day or two Springfield MA goes into bypass and shunts it to the Connecticut river. Goes into the Long Island Sound eventually and flows south to finally poison the New York Bight



Thus the term "Springfield Lump Fish"

What Wisconsin derrière may look like:



//lives in Wisconsin

TV's Vinnie: GAT_00: Just how crappy is your infrastructure that 3 inches of rain kills it?

Answer: The kind that a guy like Scott Walker slashes the budget for in order to afford more tax breaks for his Koch overlords.
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No no, it's out of state money trying to get Barrett elected.

/it's only bad if THEY do it, It's true 'cause I saw it on TV
//voting None Of The Above come June

So, in other words, it's Thursday in Wisconsin.

Heavy Rain?

Eighteen municipalities across east-central Wisconsin - from Dodge and Green Lake counties northeast to Brown and Kewaunee counties - are reporting sanitary sewer overflows or problems at sewage treatment plants

Green Lake? Brown county? too easy...

I'm more surprised it didn't happen further to the west in places like Juneau,Adams, Wood and Monroe counties. There you have a foot or two of sand and then a few feet of clay for soil. It's not ideal for crops and it holds rain for crap.

/At least Monroe county can just flood it and make cranberry bogs

what heavy rain? Madison Wi will be sunny until october!

GAT_00: The overflow began after one inch of rain fell in 15 minutes on the Brown County community. The deluge came on top of an accumulation of 1.8 inches in the previous 24 hours. The plant generally treats up to 450,000 gallons of sewage a day but received 3.5 times that much, or 1.6 million gallons, on May 3 due to excessive volumes of storm water flowing into village sanitary sewers, Mitchell said.

Just how crappy is your infrastructure that 3 inches of rain kills it? I'm assuming the ground was near saturation and that was all runoff, but come on. That says you can only handle one inch of rain on saturated soil, and that's incredibly poor planning. They must have untreated runoff every year.

When it comes to infrastructure, a Wisconsin Republican's imagination doesn't reach beyond highways. Or maybe the stuff builders need to fill up new subdivisions.

You know. The kind of infrastructure that brings in campaign contributions.

remotecody: Milwaukee has a combined sewage system that is old as f... Overflows happen routinely. The rest of the state has separated systems and this type of thing is rare. Brown County's sewage treatment plant is actually very cool. It goes 11 stories underground, it would be the tallest building in Green Bay. In all my years in GB I've never heard of a sewage overflow. This is mostly rain water though. It really isn't that bad. Milwaukee dumps many times a year but the good thing you can say about them is that for the rest of the year they are treating everything that runs off... Brake dust, tires, etc. Most cities let that I'm the water.

To be fair, it's not many times anymore, it typically happens only a couple times a year. 30 years ago it happened every rainstorm. Also it's not chunks flowing into the lake.

Gough: Deftoons: As a WI resident not living far from the soaked areas, it's hard to tell whether it's sewer water we're smelling or if it's the paper mills in Kaukauna doing their typical business.

/pronounced Kah-KAW-nuh
//I pronounce it Cock And Awe

Having spent 4 years in Appleton in the late 60s and early 70s, I can vouch for this. Judging from the last time I visited, though, it's much better now. Back then, I think we figured 19 paper mills in 19 miles of river.

Indeed, it has got better over the years for Appleton (born and raised Appleton-ian here, current resident of Neenah). But anyone taking highway 41 from Appleton to Green Bay will know they are passing through Kaukauna, you can have the windows up in your car all one likes, it won't matter. That smell just permeates right in. That city still stinks (literally) unfortunately :-(

People keep bringing up Kaukauna, I think, to show their Wisconsin credentials, but the smell has nothing to do with sewage, its a paper mill. Why talk about it?

MythDragon: Heavy Rain?

I'd heard some people say it was crap but not that it was the cause of overflowing crap.

remotecody: People keep bringing up Kaukauna, I think, to show their Wisconsin credentials, but the smell has nothing to do with sewage, its a paper mill. Why talk about it?

Because it's way more excting than say, Nekoosa.

Dairy air? Heavy Rain?




//we all float down here

Deftoons: But anyone taking highway 41 from Appleton to Green Bay will know they are passing through Kaukauna, you can have the windows up in your car all one likes, it won't matter. That smell just permeates right in. That city still stinks (literally) unfortunately :-(


Troof. That stank is vomitrocious. I'd almost rather smell sewage.

Wisconsin rules!