If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Guardian) NewsFlash Tonight: Obama to endorse gay marriage Tomorrow: will divorce Michelle. Friday: will marry Biden   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 1226
    More: NewsFlash, Joe Biden  
•       •       •

12961 clicks; posted to Politics » on 09 May 2012 at 2:21 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»


Want to get NewsFlash notifications in email?

1226 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-05-09 05:04:09 PM

Doc Daneeka: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: They seem convinced that he's just lost the entire African American vote, the entire Catholic vote and the entire Hispanic vote, though. A lot of wishful thinking going on in that(those) thread(s).

Bigots never realize they're bigots. They think everyone secretly thinks the same way they do, and they just say "what everyone is really thinking."


Except for places like NC, where it turns out they're right about thinking that.
 
2012-05-09 05:04:33 PM

mrshowrules: SilentStrider: Interesting.

Seems like this would be a way to go after the youth vote.

Sure as hell going to mobilize the gay community, their friends, family, well wishers, familiars.


Well, they weren't voting Romney anyway, but this may energize them to get to the booths on election day, you're right.
 
2012-05-09 05:04:51 PM

R.A.Danny: Has anyone mentioned Santorum yet?


Ewww, gross. Let's leave that frothy mix of lube and fecal matter on 4chan where it belongs, OK?
 
2012-05-09 05:05:33 PM

Corvus: Fox being "fair and balanced"
[fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 320x310]


To be fair and balanced that's from Fox Nation, Fox's editorial/opinion page.
 
2012-05-09 05:05:33 PM

qorkfiend: Anecdote != data, but the sheer number of people I've met or have heard about who have done that is...daunting. I mean buying stuff like cars, furniture, paying for weddings, etc.


My graduate students get $1700 a month to live on (in Boston). If they want to save that money by living 6 to a room and eating ramen so they can pay for their wedding at a 6.8% interest rate, more power to them.

How do you think we should stop it? Should I pay their landlord directly?
 
2012-05-09 05:05:39 PM

Cythraul: PsiChick: I just got an email from a group I'm following saying Obama just made his statement in favor of gay rights...has the interview happened yet, or do I have the time zones wrong?

It's happened. The 24 hour networks are all a buzz about it. And yep, he said he was in favor of same sex marriage.


I just got two more of those articles.

*does happy dance*
 
2012-05-09 05:07:21 PM

birchman: SlothB77: As a Romney-supporting republican, this is fantastic. This will hurt Obama tremendously in the polls.

If you want people to take you seriously you really shouldn't start sentences like that.


...because the lib-tards here on fark refuse to even acknowledge any view of the world which does not coincide with their preconceived notions.

/You forgot to finish your sentence.
 
2012-05-09 05:07:59 PM

NateGrey: tgregory: Ricardo Klement: tgregory: Welcome to the bandwagon, Obama supporters. Ron Paul has been supporting this for decades. He's not a trendy cool black guy, though, so I understand.

Actually, he also supports a state's right to ban it, like in North Carolina's case. Ron's only absolute on the rights the FEDS can't do anything about. At the state level, he has said a state can ban sodomy. He says it's stupid, but that they have that right.

qorkfiend: NateGrey: tgregory: Welcome to the bandwagon, Obama supporters. Ron Paul has been supporting this for decades. He's not a trendy cool black guy, though, so I understand.

Wait weren't you a Bush supporter?

No, this is the part of the thread where the Republicans pretend that they were actually gay marriage supporters all along.


Negative. NateGrey just enjoys trying to talk to me.

Oh that's right! You guys all became Independents and changed screen names! My apologies.


I have no idea what all this is about and am not sure why I am included.
 
2012-05-09 05:09:10 PM

Pertifly: Pertifly: kukukupo: He has this election in the bag. If he 'comes out' as pro-gay marriage he is gonna take a serious dive in the polls

Couldn't agree more. No way he makes a move this "ballsy" in an election year.

And here's where I eat my words:
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-announces-his-support-for-same-sex-marria g e.html


You have also identified yourself as other than "neoconservative" due to your acknowledgement of having erred.
 
2012-05-09 05:09:16 PM

fracto73: I would love to discuss the right to privacy with someone who believed it didn't exist. Most people I've talked with eventually back away from it or obfuscate, saying that the right to privacy is implied with things they like, but for things they don't like it doesn't exist.


Probably true.
 
2012-05-09 05:09:43 PM

themeaningoflifeisnot: mrshowrules: Anyone think the Biden "gaffe" was really planned to test the waters and set the stage first?

As soon as it happened, political commentators were pointing out that Biden's statement was so strong and so unequivocal that it probably was a trial balloon, not a gaffe. When I saw Biden's interview, it never even occurred to me that his statement was a gaffe.


Fox "news" originally covered it as the Obama giving a wink and a nod to the LBGT community of total Gay take over the US then they switched it bumbling Obama and Biden screwing up.
 
2012-05-09 05:10:47 PM

Mrtraveler01: Pixiest: He's just firing up the base. He's not going to repeal the DOMA. Remember, he's for Gay VOTES and not Gay Rights.

Yeah it's not like he repealed DADT or anything. They should totally just vote for the Republican Mormon instead. He'll DEFINITELY fight to protect the rights of gays. Just look at how he treats his own staffers who are gay...


And he definitely didn't order the DOJ to stop defending Section 3 of DOMA in federal courts because he feels there is no argument that it is constitutional.
 
2012-05-09 05:11:47 PM

improvius: Doc Daneeka: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: They seem convinced that he's just lost the entire African American vote, the entire Catholic vote and the entire Hispanic vote, though. A lot of wishful thinking going on in that(those) thread(s).

Bigots never realize they're bigots. They think everyone secretly thinks the same way they do, and they just say "what everyone is really thinking."

Except for places like NC, where it turns out they're right about thinking that.


I don't think the bigots alone could have carried Amendment 1. It was a combination of the bigots and the just plain ignorant.

Polling showed that there was widespread confusion and misunderstanding about what the amendment actually was. A lot of people thought it was a referendum on gay marriage (which it wasn't, gay marriage already being illegal in NC). And a lot of people didn't realize the Amendment also outlawed civil unions and domestic partnerships. Polling showed that, if people were actually informed about the nature of the amendment and its consequences, opposition to the amendment had a sizable majority.
 
2012-05-09 05:12:17 PM
XTRA_LARGE_POPCORN.jpg

Wow! FoxNation is going Freeper level of Derp. And Freepers are going full Final Solution.

Amazingly awesome timing by Barry, I mean, people are already chagrinned at GOP derp, this is just cranking it up to 11.
 
2012-05-09 05:12:37 PM

that bosnian sniper: LasersHurt: Dusk-You-n-Me: Fox Nation is losing it.

[a.yfrog.com image 640x390]

No way that's real!?

Yes, it's real. And it's glorious.


The headline has since been retconned.
 
2012-05-09 05:12:41 PM
Think your marriage was a blunder?
Will it last? We don't have to wonder.
Dear Leader says he
thinks gays should marry
and now your vows will come asunder

Link
 
2012-05-09 05:14:09 PM

RobertBruce: Finally. But a bit ridiculous he had to be pushed into it by a VP with an actual spine.


Is this what Republicans actually believe?
 
2012-05-09 05:16:09 PM
i wish i had bought Sirius online so i could listen to the derp being spewwed on the Fox channels right now. I need a good laugh.
 
2012-05-09 05:16:47 PM

NateGrey: RobertBruce: Finally. But a bit ridiculous he had to be pushed into it by a VP with an actual spine.

Is this what Republicans actually believe?


While correlation does not equal causation... the timing does seem to suggest that. I'm not blaming or faulting Obama for this, but he just HAPPENS to take on this issue after Biden's faux pas?

/lib lib lib
 
2012-05-09 05:17:11 PM

NateGrey: RobertBruce: Finally. But a bit ridiculous he had to be pushed into it by a VP with an actual spine.

Is this what Republicans actually believe?


I don't.
 
2012-05-09 05:19:56 PM

valar_morghulis: While correlation does not equal causation... the timing does seem to suggest that. I'm not blaming or faulting Obama for this, but he just HAPPENS to take on this issue after Biden's faux pas?


UPDATE: Asked about the timing of Obama's announcement, a White House official tells me that "this was something the president has been thinking of doing for several months. He spoke a lot with Mrs. Obama. He gave a lot of thought to this. He saw his daughters being friends with children with same-sex parents. He saw what was happening at the state level in New York and elsewhere. This has all been informing his thinking for months, and he had planned to do something prior to the convention." Did Biden's remarks speed up the process? "That made it happen sooner than later," this source says. Link
 
2012-05-09 05:20:43 PM

eagles95: i wish i had bought Sirius online so i could listen to the derp being spewwed on the Fox channels right now. I need a good laugh.


punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com

funny-pictures-blog.com
 
2012-05-09 05:20:58 PM
I've long promoted the following measure of cultural change.

When the sixty-something's say, "well, that's what they're doing these days," whatever it is that "they're doing" has won political and popular acceptance.

This shift in attitude of the politically and culturally indifferent middle is brought about by the media/political/professoriate complex. Through legislative efforts and suffocatinging propaganda, the indifferent middle comes to the conclusion that the end result is inevitable and that opposition is futile. The switch isn't consciously considered. The conclusion is arrived at sub-critically --"it's just the way it is."

We are close to the tipping point regarding sodomy-"marriage."



Sixty something?? Just how old are Republicans?
 
2012-05-09 05:21:22 PM
Something is seriously wrong with a society that endorses institutional hate.
 
2012-05-09 05:21:27 PM

ModernPrimitive01: The people have spoken on whether gay marriage slavery should be in America. Why does Obama Lincoln hate state's rights?


Went there.
 
2012-05-09 05:21:36 PM

valar_morghulis: I'm not blaming or faulting Obama for this, but he just HAPPENS to take on this issue after Biden's faux pas?


This assumes that Biden's "faux pas" actually was a faux pas and not a trial balloon meant to set the stage for this announcement.
 
2012-05-09 05:23:08 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Biden's faux pas?


Why do you think this was a faux pas?
 
2012-05-09 05:23:08 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: I'm surprised he did this before the election, but he knows more about how to time these things than I ever could. Does anyone else think this is just one in a series of moves specifically designed to make the teabaggers lose their collective shiat over and over again, thus making the right look like a bunch of raving lunatics for the next five months?


According to one of the Free Republicans....

*****************************

To: apillar

"Well that should be the final nail in his coffin this November..."

I don't think so. He's running against a guy who forced gay marriage on Massachusetts by executive action. If Romney comes out and denounces Obama for supporting same-sex marriage, a trap can be sprung by going over the timeline and circumstances of what Romney did.

Massachusetts law, the stuff actually codified in the books, did not change and still remain the same as they were before Romney forced Town Clerks and Justices of the Peace to start issuing same sex licenses.

Well, Romney did change one law, there is no longer a requirement for a clean bill of STD health to get a license in MA.

15 posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:49:16 PM by DBrow


**************

this is a checkmate move against Romney.
 
2012-05-09 05:23:26 PM
About damn time, Mister President.
 
2012-05-09 05:23:42 PM

what_now: Why do you think this was a faux pas?


I was quoting someone else.
 
2012-05-09 05:24:12 PM
I always knew that obama supported same-sex "marriage".

And sharia law in the U.S.

And "hate crime" laws to protect gaysbians, muslims, and all sorts of other miscreants.
 
2012-05-09 05:24:16 PM

what_now: Dusk-You-n-Me: Biden's faux pas?

Why do you think this was a faux pas?



Not you.

valar_morghulis: Biden's faux pas?


You. Why do YOU think this was a faux pas?
 
2012-05-09 05:24:24 PM

The_Sponge: Sin_City_Superhero: Obama just wants to marry a U.S. citizen so he can stay in the country.


I chuckled.


Oh wow... Awesome!
 
2012-05-09 05:24:27 PM
Ballsy. Especially in an election year. Love him or hate him, the President is one helluva politician.

I live a few blocks from the "gay area" of Indianapolis. In fact, Obama's main campaign site is wedged between two gay bars.

***However***

Before you Republicans start laughing and pointing, just know that Indianapolis is THE convention center of the Midwest. And whenever we have conventions with large numbers of Republicans -- cocaine and male prostitutes run rampant.
 
2012-05-09 05:24:36 PM

NateGrey: I've long promoted the following measure of cultural change.

When the sixty-something's say, "well, that's what they're doing these days," whatever it is that "they're doing" has won political and popular acceptance.

This shift in attitude of the politically and culturally indifferent middle is brought about by the media/political/professoriate complex. Through legislative efforts and suffocatinging propaganda, the indifferent middle comes to the conclusion that the end result is inevitable and that opposition is futile. The switch isn't consciously considered. The conclusion is arrived at sub-critically --"it's just the way it is."

We are close to the tipping point regarding sodomy-"marriage."



Sixty something?? Just how old are Republicans?


Old enough to know better and be ashamed.
 
2012-05-09 05:24:44 PM
I was a hardcore Obama guy from all the way back to the convention speech in '04. I saw him speak live to a small crowd when he was still 30 points down to Hillary, and nobody knew how to pronounce his name. I was the first of my friends, family, and co-workers to support him, and since his election, he has consistently let me down, day in and day out, on almost every issue that's important to me.

For the first time in a very long time, I don't completely regret supporting him. I still have a list of grievances about a mile long, but today, I'm proud of my President. Feels good, man.
 
2012-05-09 05:24:52 PM
Ban Marriage rights!
 
2012-05-09 05:25:22 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: what_now: Why do you think this was a faux pas?

I was quoting someone else.


yeah. Fail.
 
2012-05-09 05:26:19 PM

Richard Flaccid: gilgigamesh: Richard Flaccid: So a candidate is going to say something that he personally doesn't believe in order to appease his voters?

No way! Didn't see that coming.

Funny thing is that most Farkers will actually believe him.

Yes, because clearly the politically safe move is to come out in favor of the homos.

Yes, it definitely is.

[dailydish.typepad.com image 414x199]


Nice chart lets look to see what happens in real life when put to a vote.... HEEEEEREEES NC! The results are in, and I am sorry chart you have lost.

Go ahead Obama tell the people of NC that they are bigots. Romney will send you a thank you card.
 
2012-05-09 05:26:37 PM

valar_morghulis: I'm not blaming or faulting Obama for this, but he just HAPPENS to take on this issue after Biden's faux pas?


It wasn't a faux pas. People only assume it was because it's Biden.

But no, it was a strong, deliberate statement on a major political platform. It was a calculated move, and the administration wanted to see what the response would be.
 
2012-05-09 05:27:17 PM

NateGrey: Romeo_Santana: I guess the economy can wait a little longer. No need to hurry on that mr president. I'm sure all those men with hungry families will be dancing in the streets.

You are in Oklahoma. STFU


And folks from Oklahoma move to California when the economy is bad.

upload.wikimedia.org

Hurry, Mr. President, hurry!
 
2012-05-09 05:27:53 PM

qorkfiend: valar_morghulis: I'm not blaming or faulting Obama for this, but he just HAPPENS to take on this issue after Biden's faux pas?

This assumes that Biden's "faux pas" actually was a faux pas and not a trial balloon meant to set the stage for this announcement.


i0.kym-cdn.com

I want that to be true so hard.
 
2012-05-09 05:28:37 PM

pippi longstocking: Something is seriously wrong with a society that endorses institutional hate.


So are you for or against? I can't tell
 
2012-05-09 05:29:00 PM

Ringshadow: Oh my god. Joe Biden is Pinkie Pie.


I highly approve of this.
 
2012-05-09 05:29:10 PM

I alone am best: Richard Flaccid: gilgigamesh: Richard Flaccid: So a candidate is going to say something that he personally doesn't believe in order to appease his voters?

No way! Didn't see that coming.

Funny thing is that most Farkers will actually believe him.

Yes, because clearly the politically safe move is to come out in favor of the homos.

Yes, it definitely is.

[dailydish.typepad.com image 414x199]

Nice chart lets look to see what happens in real life when put to a vote.... HEEEEEREEES NC! The results are in, and I am sorry chart you have lost.

Go ahead Obama tell the people of NC that they are bigots. Romney will send you a thank you card.


They are bigots. But Obama probably shouldn't say that out loud.

You actually support that BS amendment in NC?
 
2012-05-09 05:30:51 PM

dosboot: he has presided over numerous preemptive attacks on Yemen, Libya


We pre-emptively attacked Libya?

Uh, what? Dude, you're really confused.
 
2012-05-09 05:31:36 PM

imontheinternet: For the first time in a very long time, I don't completely regret supporting him. I still have a list of grievances about a mile long, but today, I'm proud of my President. Feels good, man.


I think this is the reason he's doing this before the election. Most of Obama's harcore supporters assumed that he's a lot more liberal than he ever said and were upset when he turned out to be the moderate that many of us saw him to be. This move is designed to give him a boost with that core of very vocal supporters that helped get him elected the first time.
 
2012-05-09 05:31:43 PM

valar_morghulis: Love and justice will overcome hate and discrimination. Always. Whatever his motivations, I'm proud of my President today, and NOTHING any cynic or troll can conjure up will sway that. God bless America.


That's true. Whatever else happens, whether he wins the election or loses, after this Obama will forever be seen as being on the right side of history.
 
2012-05-09 05:32:55 PM

JackieRabbit: Boxcutta: I disagree with those who think that the White House has been testing this message or that it was based on polling data or some sort of strategic move. Obama had to say something because Crazy Joe Biden's off-message comments have dominated three news cycles now. He is in so much trouble right now for shooting his mouth off right now.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Obama could have simply ignored this. It wouldn't have hurt him a bit. At worst, he would just have to had said that the VP is entitled to his personal opinion and continued his standard dodge. And it hasn't "dominated three news cycles". It has been mentioned as a "mess at the White House", but everything I've seen coming out of the WH seems calm and calculated. I will almost bet money that at some point on Sunday, Obama called Biden to say "Good job, Joe! Now sit back and watch..." Then he called Arne and said "You're up!" If you don't get this, you don't understand presidential politics or Barack Obama. Joe Biden has said bone-headed things that have embarrassed his boss many times and hasn't got in much trouble yet.


Yeah? Well that's just like, your opinion, man.
 
2012-05-09 05:33:03 PM

bump: I'd like to take a moment in this thread to express my love for NC.

We are not all hateful religious homophobic, bigotted zealots - most of us are rational, thinking human beings. Please do not let recent political events skew the good people of NC. We are just as embarrased about the aforementioned freakshows as the rest of the nation.

You are now returned to your thread, already in progress...


Dude, I feel ya. I live in Texas.

/sane minorities represent!!
 
Displayed 50 of 1226 comments

First | « | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report