oooh...

I can't wait to watch some derpers' heads assplode.

Vice First Lady Biden...it has a nice ring to it.

Tonight 5 minutes after the speech: A republican and his third wife flip out about how Obama is destroying the sanctity of marriage

LOLOL

He has this election in the bag. If he 'comes out' as pro-gay marriage he is gonna take a serious dive in the polls

/from the people who matter
//by that of course I mean those who vote

I just can't hate Biden. He just says what he thinks. He's lost that filter or parking brake that younger people have. He reminds me of my grandmother shouting "Will you look at that woman's ugly clothes" to me within earshot of the woman she was talking about.

The people have spoken on whether gay marriage should be in America. Why does Obama hate state's rights?

I really hope this non-issue doesn't torpedo Obama's campaign. Why the heck would gay folks anybody want to live in North Carolina anyways? Who cares what they do? Move to a good state where people have their priorities in order.

Sin_City_Superhero: Obama just wants to marry a U.S. citizen so he can stay in the country.

0/10

unless that's snark. still can't tell

Wow. First liberal thing he has done all term.

Good for Mr President Obama.

Carth: Tonight 5 minutes after the speech: A republican and his third wife flip out about how Obama is destroying the sanctity of marriage

I'll have the popcorn ready.

That Biden is one smooth dude.

Biden is getting the car ready for the honeymoon

I'd like to take a moment in this thread to express my love for NC.

We are not all hateful religious homophobic, bigotted zealots - most of us are rational, thinking human beings. Please do not let recent political events skew the good people of NC. We are just as embarrased about the aforementioned freakshows as the rest of the nation.

You are now returned to your thread, already in progress...

hope he clarifies "evolving" by meaning that he was waiting to see if the US was becoming a little more compassionate and progressive toward human rights. Perhaps he's going to tip the scales a bit...

Sin_City_Superhero: Obama just wants to marry a U.S. citizen so he can stay in the country.

Speaking as the liberalest liberal that ever liberaled...
That's funny right there.

kukukupo: LOLOL

He has this election in the bag. If he 'comes out' as pro-gay marriage he is gonna take a serious dive in the polls

/from the people who matter
//by that of course I mean those who vote

He's smarter than that. He must have information that this is good for him to do now. This administration is really excellent at timing.

The_Sponge: It's not flip-flopping when Obama does it.

it's called flip-flolving.

Tonight 5 minutes after the speech: A republican and his third wife flip out about how Obama is destroying the sanctity of marriage

/golf clap

ModernPrimitive01: The people have spoken on whether gay marriage should be in America. Why does Obama hate state's rights?

Because putting equality up to popular vote is misguided.
States not not have a right to permit mob rule and oppress minorities.
We've been down this road before.

Wow, he's finally decided to embrace equality for everyone, four years after he shied away from saying anything about Prop 8 during the 2008 election because it wasn't politically opportunistic. He's also finally making the rounds on colleges to get the young vote after he spent 4 years doing absolutely nothing to either help kids get to college, or afford it.

This is all just grandstanding for the upcoming election. Forgive me for not being impressed.

I'd rather have vote for a crusty old, piece of shiat Republican that tells it like they think it is than vote back in a pandering asshole like Obama. His thoughts on gays are "evolving" , yeah, that's not a cop out. He can kiss the ass of the gays, then turn around to the bible thumpers and say "welllllllll, I'm not totally convinced, I can see their point of view, but I haven't really decided, so I'm still on your side"

ModernPrimitive01: The people have spoken on whether gay marriage should be in America. Why does Obama hate state's rights?


For it to be a states rights issue DOMA would have to be repealed. As long as it is on the books there is a federal law overriding states ability to grant marriage benefits.

Oh boy. I really hope this doesn't backfire for him, although I bet it'll cost him at least NC and VA. Either way, good on him for doing this.

kukukupo: LOLOL

He has this election in the bag. If he 'comes out' as pro-gay marriage he is gonna take a serious dive in the polls

/from the people who matter
//by that of course I mean those who vote


Well, you're certainly a master at reading polls. The people who will hate him for this already hate him, and they were coming out to vote against him already. This move is designed to recapture his momentum with the youth, a demographic he desperately needs. Disillusionment among young voters is something the GOP badly needs. It becomes harder to claim that Obama is the same old same old when he makes such a radical move (no president nor major presidential candidate has ever taken such a step.

kukukupo: LOLOL

He has this election in the bag. If he 'comes out' as pro-gay marriage he is gonna take a serious dive in the polls

/from the people who matter
//by that of course I mean those who vote

How? The rabid right that oppose gay marriage won't vote for him anyway. Most Democrats support him, and this may be enough to sway the hardcore liberals to come back to the fold.

So that leaves Independents. And poll after poll show at best, indifference to the issue at best. All Obama has to say is, "I personally support gay marriage, but it is up to states at this time to decide the issue."

bump: I'd like to take a moment in this thread to express my love for NC.

We are not all hateful religious homophobic, bigotted zealots - most of us are rational, thinking human beings. Please do not let recent political events skew the good people of NC. We are just as embarrased about the aforementioned freakshows as the rest of the nation.

You are now returned to your thread, already in progress...

Until enough like you make some noise you all get to be lumped together.

The_Sponge: Janusdog: I just can't hate Biden.


I can. That doofus is proud of the fact that he voted for the 1994 "assault weapons" ban.

Some of you gun guys give me the willies, so that's not a convincing argument.

And before you yell at me, I actually do shoot, and had to get a FOID card when I lived in Chicago. I can only go so far with gun 'rights' before I think people start sounding like David Koresh.

ModernPrimitive01: The people have spoken on whether gay marriage should be in America. Why does Obama hate state's rights?

Romney wants a federal constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Why does Romney hate state's rights?

bump: I'd like to take a moment in this thread to express my love for NC.

We are not all hateful religious homophobic, bigotted zealots - most of us are rational, thinking human beings. Please do not let recent political events skew the good people of NC. We are just as embarrased about the aforementioned freakshows as the rest of the nation.


Apparently the "good people of NC" had something better to do yesterday than vote?

bump: most of us are rational, thinking human beings.

If that's true, why didn't you guys vote?