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(Joe The Peacock)   Maybe gay marriage dodged a bullet - check out the bizarre laws in North Carolina for legalized marriage for first cousins   (joethepeacock.blogspot.com) divider line 164
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2012-05-09 02:30:36 PM
alowishus: The arguments people use against gay marriage are essentially the same arguments that people use against cousin marriage, e.g., it's gross, it's not normal, it's against my religion.

In both cases they are bullshiat arguments.


Well, to be fair, sticking your junk in the doody hole is kinda gross.

/then they go ass to mouth
 
2012-05-09 02:30:50 PM
alowishus: The arguments people use against gay marriage are essentially the same arguments that people use against cousin marriage, e.g., it's gross, it's not normal, it's against my religion.

In both cases they are bullshiat arguments.


XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY
 
2012-05-09 02:31:11 PM
since the author of the piece is (apparently) from GA, maybe he shouldn't be so quick to cast aspersions. GA passed a similar amendment, many years ago, and by a far wider margin than NC just did.
 
2012-05-09 02:31:35 PM
web.mit.edu
 
2012-05-09 02:32:27 PM
pxsteel: alowishus: The arguments people use against gay marriage are essentially the same arguments that people use against cousin marriage, e.g., it's gross, it's not normal, it's against my religion.

In both cases they are bullshiat arguments.

XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY


So? How would it affect you?
 
2012-05-09 02:32:49 PM
cleek: since the author of the piece is (apparently) from GA, maybe he shouldn't be so quick to cast aspersions. GA passed a similar amendment, many years ago, and by a far wider margin than NC just did.

One that outlawed straight marriages if they aren't called "marriage" on all the paperwork?
 
2012-05-09 02:33:27 PM
kronicfeld: Twenty states unconditionally allow marriage between first cousins. Another six allow it under certain circumstances, which usually involve advanced age or infertility.

It is thus the minority of states that ban marriage between first cousins unconditionally.


Not only that, but even the states that ban marriage between first cousins recognize the marriage licenses of such couples that are legally obtained in other states.
 
2012-05-09 02:34:28 PM
Myself and all of my cousins on one side look related. I can't imagine the horror of a monster that would be created between two if us. Kid would be dead from alcoholism by age 5 I'm sure.
 
2012-05-09 02:34:45 PM
Serious Black: Not only that, but even the states that ban marriage between first cousins recognize the marriage licenses of such couples that are legally obtained in other states.

Which is going to be the wedge for the new NC amendment.
 
2012-05-09 02:35:38 PM
quatchi: [i293.photobucket.com image 640x512]

Every time I see that picture, I wonder what royal family they are from.
 
2012-05-09 02:35:51 PM
pxsteel: alowishus: The arguments people use against gay marriage are essentially the same arguments that people use against cousin marriage, e.g., it's gross, it's not normal, it's against my religion.

In both cases they are bullshiat arguments.

XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY


Oooooh, this is gonna be good.
 
2012-05-09 02:37:39 PM
ontariolightning: Sticky Hands:
The US has almost enough guns for everyone. (~90 for every 100 people)
In Canada the ratio is about 30 for every 100,
You have to share everything because you are a bunch of pinko socialists.

Since you're from Utah wouldn't that make you a Mormon with a dozen children wives?


I wish!
but alas, I'm an atheist and I got no game. :(
 
rpm
2012-05-09 02:37:47 PM
pxsteel: alowishus: The arguments people use against gay marriage are essentially the same arguments that people use against cousin marriage, e.g., it's gross, it's not normal, it's against my religion.

In both cases they are bullshiat arguments.

XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY


I'm sterile. Therefore I shouldn't get married?

What about XXY, XYY, XO,...?
 
2012-05-09 02:38:15 PM
ontariolightning: aevert: ontariolightning: Big Man On Campus: ontariolightning: Jesus Christ U.S.A just legalize Gay Marriage so us Canadians don't have to hear about it anymore.

I'll go for that if you guys legalize firearm ownership.

It's win win, we both gain freedoms.

Canadians have more guns per capita than the U.S

You Sure? Link

I guess Michael Moore deceived me

It came from his mouth


Wait, something came out of his mouth?
 
2012-05-09 02:38:32 PM
rpm: pxsteel: alowishus: The arguments people use against gay marriage are essentially the same arguments that people use against cousin marriage, e.g., it's gross, it's not normal, it's against my religion.

In both cases they are bullshiat arguments.

XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY

I'm sterile. Therefore I shouldn't get married?

What about XXY, XYY, XO,...?


Clearly you should be recycled for not being "normal".
 
2012-05-09 02:39:58 PM
ontariolightning: Sticky Hands:
The US has almost enough guns for everyone. (~90 for every 100 people)
In Canada the ratio is about 30 for every 100,
You have to share everything because you are a bunch of pinko socialists.

Since you're from Utah wouldn't that make you a Mormon with a dozen children wives?


That's the average. The median is only two.
 
2012-05-09 02:40:22 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com


3.bp.blogspot.com

How times have changed.


/or not...
 
2012-05-09 02:40:27 PM
Married first cousins cannot use elephants to plow cotton fields.

No wonder my Rent-a-Packy Plow company tanked in North Carolina. Thousands of potential jobs lots. Sadly, most of the jobs were of the type that you are currently thinking of.
 
2012-05-09 02:42:41 PM
pxsteel:
XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY


I have you tagged as, "a stupid terrible human being." Thanks for the confirmation.
 
2012-05-09 02:43:15 PM
"One that outlawed straight marriages if they aren't called "marriage" on all the paperwork?"

no, but that's not really the important part of the Amendment, IMO. and it's certainly not what motivated the amendment's supporters.
 
2012-05-09 02:43:28 PM
rpm: pxsteel: alowishus: The arguments people use against gay marriage are essentially the same arguments that people use against cousin marriage, e.g., it's gross, it's not normal, it's against my religion.

In both cases they are bullshiat arguments.

XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY

I'm sterile. Therefore I shouldn't get married?

What about XXY, XYY, XO,...?


I thought he was making the "Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve" argument
 
2012-05-09 02:44:24 PM
EvilBillGates: pxsteel:
XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY

I have you tagged as, "a stupid terrible human being." Thanks for the confirmation.


I have him tagged as a "Retarded Troll"
 
2012-05-09 02:45:20 PM
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2012-05-09 02:46:20 PM
rpm: BunkoSquad: Failing that, what happens if a brave gay couple legally changed their names to "One Man" and "One Woman"?

That is absolute genius.


The next amendment will be mandatory public medical exams for proof for Ovaries.
 
2012-05-09 02:47:44 PM
rpm: I'm sterile. Therefore I shouldn't get married?

What about XXY, XYY, XO,...?


Church can do whatever it wants. For purposes of legal, visitation, agency and other rights, it only makes sense to assign a single consenting adult human to another single consenting adult human within the auspices of our legal system. Remember Terry Shiavo? What if she'd had two husbands, one who wanted to pull the plug and one who didn't - that's the kind of shiatstorm one gets into with polyamorous marriage.
 
2012-05-09 02:48:02 PM
i14.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-09 02:48:32 PM
Carth: Big Man On Campus: ontariolightning: Jesus Christ U.S.A just legalize Gay Marriage so us Canadians don't have to hear about it anymore.

I'll go for that if you guys legalize firearm ownership.

It's win win, we both gain freedoms.

You can own guns you just can't conceal carry


Yeah, and now that is about the same as states like California. There are pretty much no urban counties in California that issue concealed carry. Open carry is now illegal. And the laws for obtaining guns are pretty similar to Canada -- need to have safety training, all handguns registered, limits on type guns and magazines, waiting periods on purchases, limits on frequency of purchases, etc.

Anyway, when I lived in Canada most households had firearms of some sort.
 
2012-05-09 02:48:41 PM
I see the bigots are out in full force.
Who are any of you to ridicule someone else's sexual preference?
 
2012-05-09 02:49:34 PM
TSD: Here is the breakdown for the elusive "double cousins" right here.

HFS. The freaky part is you know they made that law because people were doing it.

Damn. Just damn.
 
2012-05-09 02:49:55 PM
RsquaredW: Church can do whatever it wants. For purposes of legal, visitation, agency and other rights, it only makes sense to assign a single consenting adult human to another single consenting adult human within the auspices of our legal system. Remember Terry Shiavo? What if she'd had two husbands, one who wanted to pull the plug and one who didn't - that's the kind of shiatstorm one gets into with polyamorous marriage.

What? Who the hell are we to make that determination? If someone wants to be with 2 other people in a binding union, why ever the fark can't they?

There's nothing to prevent another Shiavo - it was her parents vs her husband, after all.
 
2012-05-09 02:50:28 PM
aevert: ontariolightning: Big Man On Campus: ontariolightning: Jesus Christ U.S.A just legalize Gay Marriage so us Canadians don't have to hear about it anymore.

I'll go for that if you guys legalize firearm ownership.

It's win win, we both gain freedoms.

Canadians have more guns per capita than the U.S

You Sure? Link


Fine, but there is still pretty hefty gun ownership in Canada -- not like most people make it out as a non-gun country.
 
2012-05-09 02:50:50 PM
why would a demon be a homosexual

these guys are like 10000 times worse
 
2012-05-09 02:51:03 PM
pxsteel: alowishus: The arguments people use against gay marriage are essentially the same arguments that people use against cousin marriage, e.g., it's gross, it's not normal, it's against my religion.

In both cases they are bullshiat arguments.

XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY


20 + 20 = 40
That's 'XL' not 'XY'
 
2012-05-09 02:52:13 PM
Most of these are just weird laws and don't have anything to do with marriage between cousins or otherwise. Very confusing "article."
 
rpm
2012-05-09 02:52:56 PM
RsquaredW: rpm: I'm sterile. Therefore I shouldn't get married?

What about XXY, XYY, XO,...?

Church can do whatever it wants. For purposes of legal, visitation, agency and other rights, it only makes sense to assign a single consenting adult human to another single consenting adult human within the auspices of our legal system. Remember Terry Shiavo? What if she'd had two husbands, one who wanted to pull the plug and one who didn't - that's the kind of shiatstorm one gets into with polyamorous marriage.


Umm, that wasn't polyamory. XXY = Klinefelter's syndrome, XYY = Y polyploidy, XO = Turner's syndrome. They all referred to single individuals that aren't XX or XY. You can also throw chimerism in there where a single person could be both XX and XY. These are all genetic disorders that make a person not fall into the simple genetic definition of man / woman.
 
2012-05-09 02:53:36 PM
Just another reason to boycott

i.imgur.com

(based in Charlotte, NC)
 
2012-05-09 02:54:29 PM
Big Man On Campus: ontariolightning: Jesus Christ U.S.A just legalize Gay Marriage so us Canadians don't have to hear about it anymore.

I'll go for that if you guys legalize firearm ownership.

It's win win, we both gain freedoms.


We've got more guns than you guys do.
 
2012-05-09 02:55:19 PM
Yeah, those first cousin marriage laws pretty much divide along GOP/Democratic lines.

Yup.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cousin_marriage_map1.svg
 
2012-05-09 02:58:01 PM
Big Man On Campus: ontariolightning: Jesus Christ U.S.A just legalize Gay Marriage so us Canadians don't have to hear about it anymore.

I'll go for that if you guys legalize firearm ownership.

It's win win, we both gain freedoms.


Yeah and maybe Canada can get a staggering murder rate as well. Gotta love a mindset where "moar guns" is the fix for everything.
 
2012-05-09 03:04:08 PM
pxsteel:XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY


Nobody told me there was going to be math.
 
2012-05-09 03:08:00 PM
States you can marry your cousin: Alabama, Alaska, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vermont, Virginia. Arizona. And in some cases...Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Utah, Wisconsin

States that allow gay marriage: New York, Maine, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire

Therfore...states you can marry your gay cousin: New York, Maine, Connecticut, Vermont.
 
2012-05-09 03:08:14 PM
Talula Does the Hula From Hawaii: I call bullshiat on half of the claims in the article. Mostly because none of it, except for the marrying of cousins, is listed in the State Statues pertaining to marriage.

That's because they're not in the marriage statutes. Except Art. 1, 51-3, which deals with void marriages due to impotence (although such marriages are void only if at least one party is impotent "at the time" of marriage).

As an example, crimes against nature are prohibited in Art. 26, 14-177. "Crimes against nature," as defined under North Carolina's common law, include oral and anal sex. In fact, the cops maintained that one reason they needed to keep enforcing those laws after Lawrence v. Texas was because that was the only way to prosecute prostitutes who didn't engage in vaginal intercourse. The white goods tax is found at 105-187.21.

Some of them may be in error, but I'd bet that there's at least one case holding or implying most of those claims.
 
2012-05-09 03:09:56 PM
Well, at least gay first cousins can still rollerskate in a buffalo herd.
 
2012-05-09 03:09:56 PM
Talula Does the Hula From Hawaii: ontariolightning: alowishus: The arguments people use against gay marriage are essentially the same arguments that people use against cousin marriage, e.g., it's gross, it's not normal, it's against my religion.

In both cases they are bullshiat arguments.

its fine if you marry someone unrelated .. but marrying your first cousin is pretty disgusting

It is but if we let them marry and procreate, eventually their mutant descendants will be too mutant to survive and we will have successfully killed off the cousin marrying gene.


That's similar to what some people believe about teh gheyz.
 
2012-05-09 03:12:35 PM
pxsteel: XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY



It does when X and Y = 1

XY + XY = XX + XY

1*1 + 1*1 = 1*1 + 1*1
1 + 1 = 1 + 1
2 = 2
 
2012-05-09 03:13:57 PM
It's legal in California too.
 
2012-05-09 03:15:15 PM
vernonFL: What is really shiatty about the North Carolina law is that gay marriage was *already* illegal.

This new amendment made it clear that couples had no rights. In other words, no civil unions or any other kind of legal protection either for anyone who wa isn't married.


Exactly. I'll loose my DVOP. Psycho gets set off his leash tomorrow, too.

Sad day for my home. I tried. Hell, Wake County had a strong opposition period.
 
2012-05-09 03:15:22 PM
Dinjiin: pxsteel: XX+XX does not equal XX+XY
XY+XY does not equal XX+XY


It does when X and Y = 1

XY + XY = XX + XY

1*1 + 1*1 = 1*1 + 1*1
1 + 1 = 1 + 1
2 = 2


Algeburn
 
2012-05-09 03:17:41 PM
If everything is against the law then what am I supposed to do with all these farking elephants?!
 
2012-05-09 03:19:06 PM
Sort of like a Bonsai version of the family tree.
 
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