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(Yahoo)   Grateful Dead drummer has book deal. Chapters will go on endlessly but people are encouraged to make free copies   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 27
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2012-05-09 01:46:33 PM  
he's grateful he's not dead
 
2012-05-09 01:48:37 PM  
I've always loved them. Not so much their music, but their methods. They survived as a touring band years before it became necessary for all bands. Their acceptance of bootlegs was years ahead of the internet's prevalence of live music. Again, the music sometimes left me wanting, but they're cool.
 
2012-05-09 01:49:48 PM  
Have you seen Bob lately? He looks like he's already dead.
 
2012-05-09 01:51:42 PM  
Fans have been waiting on Billy's book for years....Billy bears the rare distinction with Phil and Jerry of playing every show they ever did. there was a brief series of weeks in 1968 where both Pigpen and Bobby got the boot (hence the OCtober '68 matrix shows with elvin bishop and a few others....i think Jorma and Jack sat in as well.)

Phil's book ("searching for the sound") was a bit of a letdown. jerry never got to tell his story. doesn't appear bobby is going to do a book. i'd lvoe to be wrong about bobby writing a book but he's apparently going to tour until he kicks, god love him. he just started a solo acoustic tour barely a month ago. and he's 65 i think!

Oh i bet The Rockin' K has some stories. there are certainly tons about him.

i was amazed at how tight he was three years ago today, 5/9/09 LA Forum. Just housing it. the last time he and Mickey toured with Phil and Bobby. In fall 2009 Phil and Bobby went with new blood to form "Furthur", by some cryptic comments each made, they either just got bored with the drummers or they didn't want to concede tot he nightly "drums" segment and/or give Mickey a song per night.

anyways.
 
2012-05-09 01:54:13 PM  

olddeegee: the music sometimes left me wanting, but they're cool.



absolutely agree.....i find hte 80s generally horrible. from about 1982 through 1990, i have very few shows. shambolic. some people love smacked out jerry and a brent-led GD, i can't stand it.


rickythepenguin: i was amazed at how tight he was three years ago today, 5/9/09 LA Forum


today is also the 35th anniversay of perhaps my single favorite show; buffalo NY.
 
2012-05-09 01:55:18 PM  
Since The Dead had 2 drummers, will Mickey Hart be a co-writer?
 
2012-05-09 01:58:07 PM  
I always wanted to be a dead head just never got to it.
 
2012-05-09 01:59:31 PM  

StrikitRich: Since The Dead had 2 drummers, will Mickey Hart be a co-writer?



many of my favorite shows were when BK was the sole drummer. the much-ballyhooed Europe '72 box for example, Mickey wasn't there. 1973 is generally my favorite year.

that said 1969 (with Mickey adding some amazing percussion) and 1977 (just locke,d absolutely LOCKED into BK) are outstanding.
 
2012-05-09 02:04:51 PM  

olddeegee: I've always loved them. Not so much their music, but their methods. They survived as a touring band years before it became necessary for all bands. Their acceptance of bootlegs was years ahead of the internet's prevalence of live music. Again, the music sometimes left me wanting, but they're cool.


Agreed. Like Pearl Jam (who I do love everything Riot Act and before)... they genuinely care about their fans. Watch PJ20... even if you're not a fan.

The part where a bunch of fans were crushed to death at a concert is riveting.
 
2012-05-09 02:12:32 PM  
You mean this one?
Link
 
2012-05-09 02:13:34 PM  

StrikitRich: Since The Dead had 2 drummers, will Mickey Hart be a co-writer?


See my link above. He's got his own book.
 
2012-05-09 02:14:00 PM  

rickythepenguin: In fall 2009 Phil and Bobby went with new blood to form "Furthur", by some cryptic comments each made, they either just got bored with the drummers or they didn't want to concede tot he nightly "drums" segment and/or give Mickey a song per night.


The shows are much tighter now without space and drums. Not being on drugs, those were always my least favorite parts of any given show
 
2012-05-09 02:14:21 PM  

rickythepenguin: Fans have been waiting on Billy's book for years....Billy bears the rare distinction with Phil and Jerry of playing every show they ever did. there was a brief series of weeks in 1968 where both Pigpen and Bobby got the boot (hence the OCtober '68 matrix shows with elvin bishop and a few others....i think Jorma and Jack sat in as well.)

Phil's book ("searching for the sound") was a bit of a letdown. jerry never got to tell his story. doesn't appear bobby is going to do a book. i'd lvoe to be wrong about bobby writing a book but he's apparently going to tour until he kicks, god love him. he just started a solo acoustic tour barely a month ago. and he's 65 i think!

Oh i bet The Rockin' K has some stories. there are certainly tons about him.

i was amazed at how tight he was three years ago today, 5/9/09 LA Forum. Just housing it. the last time he and Mickey toured with Phil and Bobby. In fall 2009 Phil and Bobby went with new blood to form "Furthur", by some cryptic comments each made, they either just got bored with the drummers or they didn't want to concede tot he nightly "drums" segment and/or give Mickey a song per night.

anyways.


yep to all the above, except I doubt Jerry would have ever written a book, not a bio anyway. I think he was asked in an interview once how he would like to be remembered, and he said something like he didn't give a fark and it wasn't up to him anyway. But a Garcia book on music theory would have blown many minds I think. "Chapter 7 - How to Change the Weather with a Guitar Solo"

Glad Billy's putting it down for posterity. He's one of the greatest and most underrated drummers to sit behind a kit.
 
2012-05-09 02:17:11 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

/obscure?
 
2012-05-09 02:44:55 PM  

olddeegee: I've always loved them. Not so much their music, but their methods. They survived as a touring band years before it became necessary for all bands. Their acceptance of bootlegs was years ahead of the internet's prevalence of live music. Again, the music sometimes left me wanting, but they're cool.


In an odd way, they're actually a bit underrated because people get so distracted by the cliches.
I went to 10 of their shows, and I can't stand 20 minute jams or the Deadhead scene. The appeal to me is I just thought they wrote some of the best pure Americana songs known to man. I just wish they would have had stronger vocals. Garcia's voice didn't have enough muscle when songs needed muscle and Bob Weir was ... well ... Bob Weir.
 
2012-05-09 03:05:25 PM  
Garcia's voice didn't have enough muscle when songs needed muscle

So Many Roads.

'Nuff said
 
2012-05-09 03:36:21 PM  

spacebar: rickythepenguin

"Chapter 7 - How to Change the Weather with a Guitar Solo"


So you were at Carter Finley Stadium in Raleigh, NC July 10, 1990? Because I swear he brought on the wicked thunderstorms toward the end of set 1. I got so many csb moments from that show.
 
2012-05-09 03:42:03 PM  

rickythepenguin: In fall 2009 Phil and Bobby went with new blood to form "Furthur", by some cryptic comments each made, they either just got bored with the drummers or they didn't want to concede tot he nightly "drums" segment and/or give Mickey a song per night.


I think it was the high fees the would have had to pay them.
I'd llike to hear Billy's perspective of the post Jerry years when Phil, Bob and Mickey were fighting.
Some good drunk Phil stories would be good too, I think the both of them were real partiers in the day.
Now Bobby is the drunk unfortunately.
 
2012-05-09 04:11:36 PM  

YonderScott: spacebar: rickythepenguin

"Chapter 7 - How to Change the Weather with a Guitar Solo"


So you were at Carter Finley Stadium in Raleigh, NC July 10, 1990? Because I swear he brought on the wicked thunderstorms toward the end of set 1. I got so many csb moments from that show.


I saw that happen a few times (usually the other way around), but I was remembering a Cal Expo show in '86 (?), where it was overcast and threatening rain all day until Garcia went on this funky, dissonant tangent and wouldn't let it go until the sun broke through. Coincidence? Good acid? yeah, probably both, but when it happens a few times you start to wonder...

Some of the things seen at Dead shows can't and will never be explained...
 
2012-05-09 04:38:53 PM  
It's enough to make you vomit.
 
2012-05-09 04:52:33 PM  
I got a ride from Jerry Garcia while I was hitchhiking when I was in high school.
 
2012-05-09 04:53:00 PM  

I Mash Grains: I think it was the high fees the would have had to pay them.



ive heard that theory too but it isn't borne out by what Furthur is charging. i mean, yeah, "The Dead" with teh Core 3 plus Mickey* was charging upwards of $60 to sometimes $70 to get in the door, but if you look at what Furthur is charging, they are still asking premier caysh sans BK and Mickey. so i call b.s. on the theory that "they (phil and bob) didn't want to pay BK and Mickey" theory because they're still charging the same.

(recognizing you could argue that if furthur is charging the same, phil and bob are keeping the lion's share for themselves. could be, don't know, don't care.)



*i refuse to acknowledge Mickey as a "core" member, as he left for 3 years and wasn't there when "Dark Star" was written
 
2012-05-09 06:06:58 PM  
glad to see some grateful dead family in here!
 
2012-05-09 06:55:33 PM  

rickythepenguin:

*i refuse to acknowledge Mickey as a "core" member, as he left for 3 years and wasn't there when "Dark Star" was written


I can agree with that, but don't really blame him since his Dad took the band for almost all their money. I wouldn't want to show my face either.
Billy is by far the one I like. Remember when 'The Other Ones' toured and Mickey sung Fire on the Mountain? Much worse than Phil singing Terrapin, thats fer sure.... but not much worse.
 
2012-05-09 07:37:11 PM  

spacebar: YonderScott: spacebar: rickythepenguin

"Chapter 7 - How to Change the Weather with a Guitar Solo"


So you were at Carter Finley Stadium in Raleigh, NC July 10, 1990? Because I swear he brought on the wicked thunderstorms toward the end of set 1. I got so many csb moments from that show.

I saw that happen a few times (usually the other way around), but I was remembering a Cal Expo show in '86 (?), where it was overcast and threatening rain all day until Garcia went on this funky, dissonant tangent and wouldn't let it go until the sun broke through. Coincidence? Good acid? yeah, probably both, but when it happens a few times you start to wonder...

Some of the things seen at Dead shows can't and will never be explained...


I was at a show at Alpine Valley in WI that I swear they made it rain during a "Looks Like Rain."

I saw 65 shows before Jerry died. I have seen many more since including two nights of Furthur last month at the Wanee Music Festival that were incredible. It is amazing how much Jeff from Dark Star Orchestra sounds like Jerry.
 
2012-05-09 10:18:34 PM  
Speaking of the Dead's Drummers. anyone know of a copyright free source for .megs of Pulsars and other space sounds. I'd like to use them in a project of mine.

They should be free right? They spend tax dollars recording them.
 
2012-05-09 11:29:50 PM  

I Mash Grains: I can agree with that, but don't really blame him since his Dad took the band for almost all their money. I wouldn't want to show my face either.
Billy is by far the one I like. Remember when 'The Other Ones' toured and Mickey sung Fire on the Mountain? Much worse than Phil singing Terrapin, thats fer sure.... but not much worse.


yeah, fair point.....and i'm not saying mickey isn't cool, he just isn't "core". and his dad fleecing them, yeah, that sucked.


r1chard3: .megs of Pulsars and other space sounds. I'd like to use them in a project of mine.


yeah no shiat.

he used that stuff during the 2009 'Space' segments. it wasn't until about a year later wehn History Channel or whomever showed how he had "recently" integrated the pulsar stuff into his music, and then they showed shots of him onstage with 2009 vintage "the Dead".
 
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