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(Illinois State Journal-Register)   Dollar bill received in change has signatures of WWII B17 crew. All I get is "Where's George"   (sj-r.com) divider line 91
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2012-05-09 01:42:41 PM
When ever I see old money in circulation I tend to assume a child had assess to someone's coin collection.
 
2012-05-09 01:51:49 PM
I interviewed a B-17 airman for one of my docs - he pops up at the 0:27 mark in the trailer, wearing the hat.

He was on mission #46 when he was shot down. Said he already had his papers to take a break after mission #50. Sometime after the Memphis Belle hit #25, they raised the number of missions you had to complete, although it varied based on the type of aircraft, theater, etc. The crew who signed this bill were shot down later in the war - Nov '44 - so probably they would have needed to hit 50 missions before going home.

My grandfather was shot down in his B-26 on mission #4. He was training a new crew that day - for them it was their first mission. You needed a lot of luck.
 
2012-05-09 01:56:27 PM
When i took my pilot training (civilian), my flight instructor was a really old guy, who had logged a ungodly amount of fight time. We were talking during the pre-flight, and he told me that he was a B-17 pilot in WWII. I kinda stood there with my mouth hanging open, for i am a great student of this era, and esp. the flight aspects of it. Needless to say i was thrilled that i had the honor to meet such a man, and that he was going to teach me how to fly. BOOYAA. His name was Mel, and had logged like 20K flight hours. Unbelievable. Anyway, he told me he had flew 22 missions over germany and france during the war, and was shot down 3 times. Once, he managed to limp his aircraft home, barely making it back to England. The second time, he was jumped by Me-109's and managed to put it in the water in the English channel. The third time, he was shot down over occupied france, and was captured. He spent the rest of the war in a POW camp. It was very interesting to hear his stories, such as how the Luftwaffe ( the german air force) would treat the American crews really well.bringing them smokes, candy, food, etc. He said the german army guarding them weren't too bad, if you didn't piss them off. But the bad times..were when the SS would show up. Then,..it was time for each man to be taken to a dark room for a good (beating) questioning. He wouldn't say much about that, and i didn't press it. Anyway..i feel lucky to have been taught to fly by such a exceptional man, who didn't bluster or preen, just said what happened, and wasn't vain or posturing. Just a really nice farm boy from Illinois. Thank you Mel, not only for your service, but for being such a great guy to learn from.

Mel is gone now, but will always live in the hearts he touched.


/Salute' raises a glass.
 
2012-05-09 01:59:49 PM
I got a dollar with writing on it.

farm1.staticflickr.com

I'll admit, it was in Pahrump, Nevada

/georged it and send it on its way in 2004.
//lost in the ether somewhere
 
2012-05-09 02:09:14 PM
I'm building a B-17 model right now (literally today) so I'm getting a kick.....
 
2012-05-09 02:09:31 PM

cig-mkr: Great story, sad that so many of the WW2 vets are passing away everyday. So much history passes with them.


It's not sad, they're around 90 years old. Do you expect them to live forever?
It was sad if they died during or shortly after the war, not 70 years later.
 
2012-05-09 02:12:25 PM
Cool story, subby!
 
2012-05-09 02:14:16 PM

MythDragon: Or maybe a B-17a1:


Looks shopped...
 
2012-05-09 02:14:37 PM

Guelph35: It's not sad, they're around 90 years old. Do you expect them to live forever?



People dying is sad no matter what age they are. A lot of history disappears when we lose one of those guys.
 
2012-05-09 02:18:18 PM

lizzyjo: Very cool find!

I have a WheresGeorge stamp, and it's fun to track where my bills go. I hope you find one of mine, Subby!


Where can I get a stamp?
 
2012-05-09 02:18:50 PM

Maud Dib: Oblig for a bomber pilot thread...

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thanks, that made me laugh,,,
 
2012-05-09 02:21:55 PM

Guelph35: cig-mkr: Great story, sad that so many of the WW2 vets are passing away everyday. So much history passes with them.

It's not sad, they're around 90 years old. Do you expect them to live forever?
It was sad if they died during or shortly after the war, not 70 years later.


Sir, it's still sad. They were the greatest generation. They had marched thru hell and still got the job done. They knew that they could face any task and complete it, because they did it already. They also raised a bunch of lazy, inconsiderate slobs and those raised even worse ones. The human race's only natural enemy is the human race itself. I'm definitely not a war-monger, by any means, but It seems that much of our fellow Americans haven't learned to stand eye-to-eye and work with the integrity of our WWII Vets

/rant off
 
2012-05-09 02:27:23 PM
From the Article:
Steve has three sons at home: Konnor 15, Karter, 13, and Kannon, 8.

Who names their kids like that? Passed from WWII heroes to the hands of pretentious douchebags with too much time and not enough sense. Sad.
 
2012-05-09 02:31:35 PM

Mikeyworld: I got a dollar with writing on it.

*Pahrump dollar.jpg*

I'll admit, it was in Pahrump, Nevada

/georged it and send it on its way in 2004.
//lost in the ether somewhere


Whoever gave me the hit, Thank you but I'd rather collect them honestly. It's part of that integrity I was talkin' about

/Now I gotta to figure out how to delete one hit out of a list of 5
 
2012-05-09 02:32:10 PM
My bet is that the dollar was stolen and spent. Back when I lived in Vegas, I was behind two very wasted doods, who paid for their cigarettes and beer with over 40 uncirculated 1922 Morgan silver dollars. Hmmm, wonder where they got those? Their pockets were bulging w/more. ( I did convince the clerk to let me "buy" 5 of them from her for $5. She kept the rest.)
 
2012-05-09 02:33:46 PM

groppet: A few years ago my company had me assigned to a job at a retired Air Force enlisted/officers association. I was invited to their dinner and I was sat at a table full of old WW2 and Korea pilots/crew members. I just pretty much sat there with a big shiat eating grin on my face just listening to their stories. One guy would toss baseballs out of his bomber with anti Hitler messages on them in german. There were even a few Tuskeegee airmen there. Best part was the drunker they got the better the stories were. I dont know if any of them were lies or not but it was one of the best nights I had in a long time.


A snappy, if somewhat envious, salute to you. That must have been a blast.

1.bp.blogspot.com

Would like to thank them for their service.

Oh, yes - it is hawt.
 
2012-05-09 02:38:18 PM

wambu: I enjoy wheresgeorge.com on a casual basis.


Same here.
 
2012-05-09 02:44:57 PM

Mazzic518: lizzyjo: Very cool find!

I have a WheresGeorge stamp, and it's fun to track where my bills go. I hope you find one of mine, Subby!

Where can I get a stamp?


www.stamp-connection.com. There's a section of wg stamps...
 
2012-05-09 02:46:08 PM

Mikeyworld: Mikeyworld: I got a dollar with writing on it.

*Pahrump dollar.jpg*

I'll admit, it was in Pahrump, Nevada

/georged it and send it on its way in 2004.
//lost in the ether somewhere

Whoever gave me the hit, Thank you but I'd rather collect them honestly. It's part of that integrity I was talkin' about

/Now I gotta to figure out how to delete one hit out of a list of 5


Yeah, now that bill will probably get blocked.
 
2012-05-09 02:50:41 PM

upright_apes_r_us: When ever I see old money in circulation I tend to assume a child had assess to someone's coin collection.


watchesinmovies.info
The way your Dad looked at it, this old coin was your birthright. He'd be damned if any crotch-goblins were gonna put their chocolate stained hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide something. His ass.
 
2012-05-09 02:50:45 PM

Beavosaurus Rex: www.stamp-connection.com


Sweet Thank you
 
2012-05-09 02:51:35 PM
I remember taking a nickel in change in the late 80's - when I cashed out my drawer I thought someone had passed me a slug. When I looked closer, I realised it was a mis-strike - the letters "us unu" from e pluribus unum are visible on the edge, but it's otherwise smooth and shiny. No idea if it's worth anything but I still have it. Must be rare as I've never seen another.

/probly wasn't signed by any airmen
 
2012-05-09 03:00:01 PM

FarknGroovn: It's a short snorter


Indeed
 
2012-05-09 03:05:33 PM

Oznog: [mlkshk.com image 640x358]

TFA page layout reminds me of THIS. I had to hunt for a moment to find the actual content. And I'm all like, "this is a summary which only LINKS to the real page, right?" No, this is it. 3/4 of the page is ads and "suggested links" with a thin river of content text cutting through it.

This better not be a harbinger of layouts to come, that's all I'm sayin'.


i286.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-09 03:05:43 PM

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: SharkTrager: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x400]
Episode summary

It wasn't no famous signatures. It had freaking Clark Gable, and the dumbass appraiser couldn't see beyond the value of just the signature to realize it kinda goes up when it's that unique and tied to a World War. That guy is their worst valuation guy.

I was talking about the dollar bill in TFA, not the Pawn Stars episode. He's Rick's buddy, so I'm sure the valuations err more towards the Pawn shop side.


In that case he was more "I have no farking clue what I'm talking about but, yeah, the autograph is real."
 
2012-05-09 03:07:22 PM

Big Man On Campus: I really find it hard to believe that any paper money issued in 1935 is still in circulation.


I bet you're a blast at parties.
 
2012-05-09 03:07:59 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: SharkTrager: Recoil Therapy: Very cool story subby, thanks for posting it.

/they only made it 3 missions out of the 25 needed
//it's impossible to comprehend the balls it took to climb into those planes day after day with the odds that much against them

My former grandfather-in-law was a bombardier. He wrote a book outlining all their missions and the family had it bound. The amazing thing is how they just got used to it.

The Bombing of Germany is a PBS documentary about changing American views of bombing. It's available on Netflix streaming. It is fascinating to watch the arc of what America found acceptable behavior from the start of the war to the end of it.


He had interesting stories. He was in a flight that bombed Germany, landed in Russia (where they got Russian medals), bombed Germany, landed in Italy and then bomber Germany landing back home in the UK.

They also got MUCH better at bombing over the course of the war.
 
2012-05-09 03:09:46 PM

MythDragon: I had a dollar bill that had a bunch of WWII signatures on it, but then I was arrested for trying to use it at a TacoBell...


You mean a 2 dollar bill?
 
2012-05-09 03:12:09 PM

Beavosaurus Rex: Mikeyworld: Mikeyworld: I got a dollar with writing on it.
I'll admit, it was in Pahrump, Nevada

/georged it and send it on its way in 2004.

It's part of that integrity I was talkin' about

/Now I gotta to figure out how to delete one hit out of a list of 5

Yeah, now that bill will probably get blocked.


Stupid me...I kept tellin' myself to blur the numbers, but No now it's a goner, though, the other hits might be in Question, too as I had posted to Flickr ages ago.

I'm gonna do that today, before I get caught up in a forum again
 
2012-05-09 03:31:01 PM
Mikeyworld Whoever gave me the hit, Thank you but I'd rather collect them honestly. It's part of that integrity I was talkin' about

Or maybe you just unleashed the FARK Equivalent of the Family Circus Amazon Reviews, or Rob Cockerham's Ultimate Shopper
Link

shower_in_my_socks My grandfather was shot down in his B-26 on mission #4. He was training a new crew that day - for them it was their first mission. You needed a lot of luck.
Link
 
2012-05-09 04:07:19 PM
CSB time:
Worked at a gas station one summer. One of the regulars kids bought gas and cigs with Mercury dimes, silver quarters and a flipin' Morgan dollar. Put cash in the till and held the coins until the regular came back in. Kid lost his car for a long time...
 
2012-05-09 04:14:36 PM

Recoil Therapy: Very cool story subby, thanks for posting it.

/they only made it 3 missions out of the 25 needed
//it's impossible to comprehend the balls it took to climb into those planes day after day with the odds that much against them


Indeed, people go on about the perils of the Marines island hopping in the pacific and the casualties at D-Day, and for sure, all of that was horrific, but the 8th Air Force had the highest casualty rates of any group in WWII. People dismiss them because they didn't sleep in their own shiat in some muddy trench or slog through the frozen Ardennes. After a mission they flew back to sleep in relative peace in England, but that was only IF they made it back, and if the aircraft was disabled, many of the crew rode it into the ground because they couldn't get out, like 7 of the 10 men who signed this bill.
 
2012-05-09 05:41:55 PM
Saw something on Pawn Stars about a dollar bill signed by Clark Gable and aircrew during WW2. Can't remember what it was, but it involved buying drinks or something when they returned.
 
2012-05-09 06:45:24 PM
I'm waiting for the rest of the story--you know, the now 88-year-old ex-stripper who gave those boys the best dance of their lives before they went off to bomb Nazis, and kept the bill her whole life in memory after the poor guys got shot down.

But then it was stolen from her by a lowlife who went to a strip club and stuck the bill in the bra of a stripper, who turns out to be the great granddaughter of the original owner. The young stripper recognized it and gave it back to great^2 in a touching scene with flashbacks of '40s boobies. *sniff* I'd so go see that movie.
 
2012-05-09 07:20:43 PM

Mazzic518: lizzyjo: Very cool find!

I have a WheresGeorge stamp, and it's fun to track where my bills go. I hope you find one of mine, Subby!

Where can I get a stamp?


Mazzic518, I bought mine online on RubberStampChamp.com. There are other stamp sites that sell them, and there are lots of different designs and colors you can get. You can also get one made at an office supply store, but I found that, even with shipping costs, buying it online at that site was cheaper.
 
2012-05-09 07:28:13 PM

Big Man On Campus: I really find it hard to believe that any paper money issued in 1935 is still in circulation.


In 2007-2009 I worked as a cashier in a used book store. Starting in late 2008 I started seeing a lot of copper pennies, silver dimes and quarters and really old paper money. I have a couple bills from the 1920s. I bought everything I could find out of the till, just for the coolness.

I figured people were rummaging through their family attics and storage lockers for found money to spend on books. The well had dried up noticeably by July, 2009.
 
2012-05-09 07:49:33 PM

lizzyjo: Mazzic518: lizzyjo: Very cool find!

I have a WheresGeorge stamp, and it's fun to track where my bills go. I hope you find one of mine, Subby!

Where can I get a stamp?

Mazzic518, I bought mine online on RubberStampChamp.com. There are other stamp sites that sell them, and there are lots of different designs and colors you can get. You can also get one made at an office supply store, but I found that, even with shipping costs, buying it online at that site was cheaper.


Sweet I ordered one today
 
2012-05-09 09:14:16 PM
I just got word my Uncle Bill is dying. His kidneys are failing and he took a fall. [I am getting information on his problems through my cousin, to my sister, to me.] He was in the infantry in Europe in WWII. He was very highly decorated. He got three bronze stars with V for valor and a silver star with V for Valor. He was up for a fourth bronze star when he did something more so they raised his award to a silver star. He also got three Purple Hearts. He still has metal from German artillery in him. From what he has told me he had one good eye and one bad one when he enlisted. German artillery blinded his good eye.
He just seems so ordinary in so many ways, not a person one would expect to be a hero at all.
I guess he is not expected to make it. I sure hope he does though. He always treated me so well, wonderful person. I used to go over and visit him all the time when I lived closer. It was sometime before I actually found out what he had actually done. He always talked about the other guys bravery and things he saw others do.
 
2012-05-10 12:40:46 PM

groppet: ...One guy would toss baseballs out of his bomber with anti Hitler messages on them in german...


Dad was an intel NCO in a TD battalion. He called for the company's German speaking soldier when they entered a Hun village and found the phone system still working. They tried to place a call to Hitler and got as far as Berlin before the operator realized she was talking to an American soldier.

Tuesday was VE Day. Thanks, Dad. Wish we had talked more when we could.

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2012-05-10 12:40:55 PM

Spanky McStupid: groppet: A few years ago my company had me assigned to a job at a retired Air Force enlisted/officers association. I was invited to their dinner and I was sat at a table full of old WW2 and Korea pilots/crew members. I just pretty much sat there with a big shiat eating grin on my face just listening to their stories. One guy would toss baseballs out of his bomber with anti Hitler messages on them in german. There were even a few Tuskeegee airmen there. Best part was the drunker they got the better the stories were. I dont know if any of them were lies or not but it was one of the best nights I had in a long time.

A snappy, if somewhat envious, salute to you. That must have been a blast.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x267]

Would like to thank them for their service.

Oh, yes - it is hawt.


It was a great place to work I was helping clean out their old storage area I kept so much of what I got from there lighters, books, pictures, signed lithographs from Chuck Yeager and Charlie Duke. I dug everywhere for a Doolittle signature, didnt find one.
 
2012-05-10 12:53:41 PM

RoyBatty: Three crew members parachuted to relative safety - Flynn, John Lafferty and the bombardier, Curtis Chapman of Raymond. Chapman, says Flynn, was blown out of the plane by the explosion. He was unconscious as he fell,

Thus the origin of the phrase, "Help the bombardier".



There's a song "Frig the Flying Fortress"

... So frig the flying fortress and pray that she'll abort,
'Cause I'd rather be at home than in this friggin' flying fort
...
 
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