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2012-05-09 08:53:08 AM
From The article: "I just would like to see Scott Walker defeated. I've never seen a division in our state like this. I'm not talking to some of my friends right now because of it," he said.


See, now this pisses me off. I have one friend who supports Walker, but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop talking to him because we disagree on something. He's never seen a division like this but he's obviously quite content to contribute to it.
 
2012-05-09 09:01:16 AM
Big difference between now and 2010; you all now know what Scott Walker does, who pays his salary, who and what are his main focus and how he goes about his job.
 
2012-05-09 09:11:42 AM

Generation_D: Big difference between now and 2010; you all now know what Scott Walker does, who pays his salary, who and what are his main focus and how he goes about his job.


this.

plus the tea party wave has retreated to a ripple.
 
2012-05-09 09:13:37 AM

FlashHarry: Generation_D: Big difference between now and 2010; you all now know what Scott Walker does, who pays his salary, who and what are his main focus and how he goes about his job.

this.

plus the tea party wave has retreated to a ripple.


Dick Luger?

I don't know the particulars but he lost to a teabagger.
 
2012-05-09 09:23:01 AM
"Barrett may have the unions, but Walker has the money. He has tapped his status as a national conservative rock star to raise $25 million so far, most of it from out of state, shattering fundraising records he set during the 2010 race."

That right there says a lot.
 
2012-05-09 09:32:53 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism: FlashHarry: Generation_D: Big difference between now and 2010; you all now know what Scott Walker does, who pays his salary, who and what are his main focus and how he goes about his job.

this.

plus the tea party wave has retreated to a ripple.

Dick Luger?

I don't know the particulars but he lost to a teabagger.


Lugar didn't live in Indiana and hadn't lived in Indiana for decades. This wasn't commonly known before, but was used by his opposition and it really kicked Lugar's campaign in the sack.

/all politics is local
 
2012-05-09 09:33:20 AM
Except that the people of Wisconsin have learned that this man IS as dumb and as weaselly as he looks.

static6.businessinsider.com
 
2012-05-09 09:33:38 AM
"We're not going backward; we're going forward!" Walker told his supporters Tuesday night.

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball. But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!
 
2012-05-09 09:36:51 AM
The surprise from yesterday's primaries is that nearly as many Republicans turned out to vote for Walker in what was a basically uncontested primary, as voted for all the Democratic governor candidates combined.

This can't be a good sign for Democrats.
 
2012-05-09 09:37:25 AM
Wow. Falk didn't even take Dane County.

If the primary is of any indication, this race is going to be interesting:
Gov (D) Total: 670,278
Gov (R) Total: 646,458

(yeah yeah open primary and all that)
 
2012-05-09 09:37:35 AM

Wyalt Derp: "We're not going backward; we're going forward!" Walker told his supporters Tuesday night.

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball. But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!


Abortions for some, American flags for everyone!
 
2012-05-09 09:37:43 AM

Nina Haagen Dazs: From The article: "I just would like to see Scott Walker defeated. I've never seen a division in our state like this. I'm not talking to some of my friends right now because of it," he said.


See, now this pisses me off. I have one friend who supports Walker, but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop talking to him because we disagree on something. He's never seen a division like this but he's obviously quite content to contribute to it.


Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
2012-05-09 09:38:22 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism: FlashHarry: Generation_D: Big difference between now and 2010; you all now know what Scott Walker does, who pays his salary, who and what are his main focus and how he goes about his job.

this.

plus the tea party wave has retreated to a ripple.

Dick Luger?

I don't know the particulars but he lost to a teabagger.


The difference is that Lugar lost in a primary. Teabaggers get out the vote in the primaries when most of the moderates stay home (and even if Dems are even allowed to vote in GOP primaries in Indiana, I doubt many did). The general election is a different story, and I think moderate voters who might have not known what they were buying in 2010 won't be fooled twice.
 
2012-05-09 09:38:59 AM

Nina Haagen Dazs: From The article: "I just would like to see Scott Walker defeated. I've never seen a division in our state like this. I'm not talking to some of my friends right now because of it," he said.


See, now this pisses me off. I have one friend who supports Walker, but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop talking to him because we disagree on something. He's never seen a division like this but he's obviously quite content to contribute to it.


It's not possible the other friend isn't talking to him?
 
2012-05-09 09:39:48 AM

BigBooper: The surprise from yesterday's primaries is that nearly as many Republicans turned out to vote for Walker in what was a basically uncontested primary, as voted for all the Democratic governor candidates combined.

This can't be a good sign for Democrats.


If Wisconsin doesn't recall this farktard, I'm sorry, but people who have sense...you need to leave. Even Chicago's king is better.
 
2012-05-09 09:40:16 AM

Nina Haagen Dazs: From The article: "I just would like to see Scott Walker defeated. I've never seen a division in our state like this. I'm not talking to some of my friends right now because of it," he said.


See, now this pisses me off. I have one friend who supports Walker, but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop talking to him because we disagree on something. He's never seen a division like this but he's obviously quite content to contribute to it.


I have a few friends in the mental health industry and they're seeing a weird trend: people seeking their services for the sole purpose of talking to someone sane. They report feeling like their friends and family have suddenly gone crazy.

It's not a difference in political opinion. This bridge has always existed and hasn't caused substantial issues. The problem is with a completely different knowledgebase. It has made even non-political communication difficult because it's like they're inhabiting two different universes.

I know. I know. Anectdotes.

But I think it helps explain your confusion if this trend is nationwide.
 
2012-05-09 09:42:33 AM

Petey4335: Wow. Falk didn't even take Dane County.

If the primary is of any indication, this race is going to be interesting:
Gov (D) Total: 670,278
Gov (R) Total: 646,458

(yeah yeah open primary and all that)


Riiight. Who's counting the votes?
 
2012-05-09 09:43:15 AM

Bontesla: Nina Haagen Dazs: From The article: "I just would like to see Scott Walker defeated. I've never seen a division in our state like this. I'm not talking to some of my friends right now because of it," he said.


See, now this pisses me off. I have one friend who supports Walker, but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop talking to him because we disagree on something. He's never seen a division like this but he's obviously quite content to contribute to it.

I have a few friends in the mental health industry and they're seeing a weird trend: people seeking their services for the sole purpose of talking to someone sane. They report feeling like their friends and family have suddenly gone crazy.

It's not a difference in political opinion. This bridge has always existed and hasn't caused substantial issues. The problem is with a completely different knowledgebase. It has made even non-political communication difficult because it's like they're inhabiting two different universes.

I know. I know. Anectdotes.

But I think it helps explain your confusion if this trend is nationwide.


I am a former psychologist and I can totally see that happening.

I was also talking to someone who is an expert on the Civil War and he says the parallels are frightening. Only this time it should be really fun because we don't even have geography roughly separating the sides, we live right next to each other.
 
2012-05-09 09:45:38 AM

Petey4335: Wow. Falk didn't even take Dane County.

If the primary is of any indication, this race is going to be interesting:
Gov (D) Total: 670,278
Gov (R) Total: 646,458

(yeah yeah open primary and all that)


There was a lot of cross party voting shenanigans going on. The radio man said that the fake democrat got 24% in one primary. Walker has had a lot of his power whittled away by last years recalls and the resignation of another republican so another 2 and a half years of Walker wouldn't see much of anything else being done to hurt the state.
 
2012-05-09 09:49:14 AM

ginandbacon: "Barrett may have the unions, but Walker has the money. He has tapped his status as a national conservative rock star to raise $25 million so far, most of it from out of state, shattering fundraising records he set during the 2010 race."

That right there says a lot.


Hell If I'm Barrett I take that quote and make it into my main TV ad, interspersed with footage of Walker denouncing the "out of state money" fueling the campaign against him (particularly when he did it outside a NY fundraiser in his honor).

Wisconsinites seem pretty proud of being a breed apart that does things their own way, I think there could be a lot of resentment built up against someone who appears to be getting his marching orders from elsewhere
 
2012-05-09 09:50:07 AM

Nina Haagen Dazs: From The article: "I just would like to see Scott Walker defeated. I've never seen a division in our state like this. I'm not talking to some of my friends right now because of it," he said.


See, now this pisses me off. I have one friend who supports Walker, but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop talking to him because we disagree on something. He's never seen a division like this but he's obviously quite content to contribute to it.


I can see this happening if the guy was a teacher, state worker or union member and his friends that support Walker went all in with his rhetoric about those workers. What was said about the people that held those jobs was very insulting and I can see how repeating that to a friend that holds one of those jobs would end a friendship.
 
2012-05-09 09:51:27 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism: There was a lot of cross party voting shenanigans going on. The radio man said that the fake democrat got 24% in one primary. Walker has had a lot of his power whittled away by last years recalls and the resignation of another republican so another 2 and a half years of Walker wouldn't see much of anything else being done to hurt the state.


www.atangledweb.org
 
2012-05-09 09:51:31 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism: Petey4335: Wow. Falk didn't even take Dane County.

If the primary is of any indication, this race is going to be interesting:
Gov (D) Total: 670,278
Gov (R) Total: 646,458

(yeah yeah open primary and all that)

There was a lot of cross party voting shenanigans going on. The radio man said that the fake democrat got 24% in one primary. Walker has had a lot of his power whittled away by last years recalls and the resignation of another republican so another 2 and a half years of Walker wouldn't see much of anything else being done to hurt the state.


BS. What he's already done is just starting to be felt. My family's health insurance premiums (the portion they have to pay) just skyrocketed 15%.
 
2012-05-09 09:53:04 AM
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2012-05-09 09:55:00 AM

ongbok: Nina Haagen Dazs: From The article: "I just would like to see Scott Walker defeated. I've never seen a division in our state like this. I'm not talking to some of my friends right now because of it," he said.


See, now this pisses me off. I have one friend who supports Walker, but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop talking to him because we disagree on something. He's never seen a division like this but he's obviously quite content to contribute to it.

I can see this happening if the guy was a teacher, state worker or union member and his friends that support Walker went all in with his rhetoric about those workers. What was said about the people that held those jobs was very insulting and I can see how repeating that to a friend that holds one of those jobs would end a friendship.


My mother is a teacher, and has been for over 20 years. Her hairstylist ran for the school board parroting Walker. Up until then they were practically friends.

My mother refuses to see her anymore. The hilarious thing is that her friend didn't understand why she didn't want to have anything to do with her -- and asked. My mother said that she doesn't have the money for her services since salaries have been slashed, and oh, fark you too for your little speech vilifying teachers.
 
2012-05-09 10:01:57 AM

Janusdog: antidisestablishmentarianism: Petey4335: Wow. Falk didn't even take Dane County.

If the primary is of any indication, this race is going to be interesting:
Gov (D) Total: 670,278
Gov (R) Total: 646,458

(yeah yeah open primary and all that)

There was a lot of cross party voting shenanigans going on. The radio man said that the fake democrat got 24% in one primary. Walker has had a lot of his power whittled away by last years recalls and the resignation of another republican so another 2 and a half years of Walker wouldn't see much of anything else being done to hurt the state.

BS. What he's already done is just starting to be felt. My family's health insurance premiums (the portion they have to pay) just skyrocketed 15%.


I said he couldn't do any more damage. But my family is feeling the pain as well since most of my family works for the state in some way or another. My super conservative uncles haven't talked politics at family events for the past year, it's been nice.
 
2012-05-09 10:04:33 AM
If this isn't an alarm to voters, I don't know what is...SCOTT WALKER HAS SAID "GOD" TOLD HIM TO RUN FOR OFFICE!

Most of my left leaning friends who voted yesterday either voted for Falk or Barrett agreed that whoever came out on top they'd vote for in June. Some didn't vote at all and there were quite a few who voted for the younger guy who was running against the Ol' Droopy Eyed Drop Out.

Why did so many people vote Republican in support of Scooter? Because they feel they need something to brag about, and it's their 'merican duty, dammit. These assholes will fly a flag and a sign in your face every chance they get.

And if anyone has the seen where the money comes from to finance these campaigns on Walker's side and how much it is...christ, why not put those millions to good use instead of making shiatty ads.

Thinking I should get into making these ads. All I need is $34,000 to pay off student loans and in return your campaign will get a miss-mash of twisted figures, facts and outright lies. Where do I sign up?
 
2012-05-09 10:07:25 AM

Janusdog: My mother is a teacher, and has been for over 20 years. Her hairstylist ran for the school board parroting Walker. Up until then they were practically friends.

My mother refuses to see her anymore. The hilarious thing is that her friend didn't understand why she didn't want to have anything to do with her -- and asked. My mother said that she doesn't have the money for her services since salaries have been slashed, and oh, fark you too for your little speech vilifying teachers.



It seems to me that it's your mother who is letting politics get the better of her.
 
2012-05-09 10:11:58 AM

BigBooper: Janusdog: My mother is a teacher, and has been for over 20 years. Her hairstylist ran for the school board parroting Walker. Up until then they were practically friends.

My mother refuses to see her anymore. The hilarious thing is that her friend didn't understand why she didn't want to have anything to do with her -- and asked. My mother said that she doesn't have the money for her services since salaries have been slashed, and oh, fark you too for your little speech vilifying teachers.


It seems to me that it's your mother who is letting politics get the better of her.


That's a hot, steaming pile of projection right there.
 
2012-05-09 10:12:02 AM

WhiskeySticks: If this isn't an alarm to voters, I don't know what is...SCOTT WALKER HAS SAID "GOD" TOLD HIM TO RUN FOR OFFICE!

Most of my left leaning friends who voted yesterday either voted for Falk or Barrett agreed that whoever came out on top they'd vote for in June. Some didn't vote at all and there were quite a few who voted for the younger guy who was running against the Ol' Droopy Eyed Drop Out.

Why did so many people vote Republican in support of Scooter? Because they feel they need something to brag about, and it's their 'merican duty, dammit. These assholes will fly a flag and a sign in your face every chance they get.

And if anyone has the seen where the money comes from to finance these campaigns on Walker's side and how much it is...christ, why not put those millions to good use instead of making shiatty ads.

Thinking I should get into making these ads. All I need is $34,000 to pay off student loans and in return your campaign will get a miss-mash of twisted figures, facts and outright lies. Where do I sign up?


You'll be happy to know that Strategic Advancing is hiring in time for the November elections. They essentially preform that service via push-polling. That's right, if you value money over your mental well-being you really can exchange the two of them directly.

Some of my friends have worked there when nothing else was available. There are no cool stories..
 
2012-05-09 10:14:23 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism: My super conservative uncles haven't talked politics at family events for the past year, it's been nice.


At least your uncles are smart enough to shut up. I've got an uncle who is everything bad that people claim represents the Tea Party. He's racist, bigoted, and sexist. He won't shut up about the N*gger in chief, etc. etc. And he doesn't understand why even his children won't have anything to do with him.
 
2012-05-09 10:15:00 AM

Janusdog: ongbok: Nina Haagen Dazs: From The article: "I just would like to see Scott Walker defeated. I've never seen a division in our state like this. I'm not talking to some of my friends right now because of it," he said.


See, now this pisses me off. I have one friend who supports Walker, but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop talking to him because we disagree on something. He's never seen a division like this but he's obviously quite content to contribute to it.

I can see this happening if the guy was a teacher, state worker or union member and his friends that support Walker went all in with his rhetoric about those workers. What was said about the people that held those jobs was very insulting and I can see how repeating that to a friend that holds one of those jobs would end a friendship.

My mother is a teacher, and has been for over 20 years. Her hairstylist ran for the school board parroting Walker. Up until then they were practically friends.

My mother refuses to see her anymore. The hilarious thing is that her friend didn't understand why she didn't want to have anything to do with her -- and asked. My mother said that she doesn't have the money for her services since salaries have been slashed, and oh, fark you too for your little speech vilifying teachers.


My teabagger uncle has pretty much been excommunicated from the family. We always disagreed with him, but it never became vicious until a year ago. He started bringing up in (nonpolitical) conversations about how unions were destroying WI, and how government workers were all a bunch of leeches. Both of his parents were public sector union workers, his (now ex) wife was a teacher for many years, his (now ex) parents in-law are retired teachers, his brother (my father) is a retired private sector union worker, and his niece (my sister) is a private sector union worker. Yeah, people kinda lose respect for you when you start lashing out against your parents, wife, in-laws, brother, and niece with a bunch of lies. Fark him.

He also said something about how unemployment insurance needs to be done away with because everyone on it becomes lazy and doesn't want to get another job, and because if you lose your job it's your own fault. He said that in front of my cousin, who was laid off when a factory he worked at shut down about 3 months prior, and was making UI claims while looking for his next job. He mentioned that to Mr. Teabagger, who said that jobs are out there and should have found one by now if he was really looking. So, basically, he accused my cousin of committing fraud. Again, fark him.
 
2012-05-09 10:15:35 AM

BigBooper: Janusdog: My mother is a teacher, and has been for over 20 years. Her hairstylist ran for the school board parroting Walker. Up until then they were practically friends.

My mother refuses to see her anymore. The hilarious thing is that her friend didn't understand why she didn't want to have anything to do with her -- and asked. My mother said that she doesn't have the money for her services since salaries have been slashed, and oh, fark you too for your little speech vilifying teachers.


It seems to me that it's your mother who is letting politics get the better of her.


Oh, yeah, sure. If someone cut into your retirement and livelihood I'm pretty sure you would just fart unicorns.
 
2012-05-09 10:17:40 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism: FlashHarry: Generation_D: Big difference between now and 2010; you all now know what Scott Walker does, who pays his salary, who and what are his main focus and how he goes about his job.

this.

plus the tea party wave has retreated to a ripple.

Dick Luger?

I don't know the particulars but he lost to a teabagger.


Thats just Indiana being late to the party as usual.
 
2012-05-09 10:17:43 AM

Falcc: You'll be happy to know that Strategic Advancing is hiring in time for the November elections. They essentially preform that service via push-polling. That's right, if you value money over your mental well-being you really can exchange the two of them directly.

Some of my friends have worked there when nothing else was available. There are no cool stories..




I already work in advertising, making companies and individuals rich while I scrape by. Mental well-being is long gone. If I can work out of the home in my boxers for extra cash, sign me up.
 
2012-05-09 10:18:45 AM
Janusdog
My mother refuses to see her anymore.

Good. A strategy of ostracism should be employed. No respect or pity for collaborators.
 
2012-05-09 10:19:34 AM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: My teabagger uncle has pretty much been excommunicated from the family. We always disagreed with him, but it never became vicious until a year ago. He started bringing up in (nonpolitical) conversations about how unions were destroying WI, and how government workers were all a bunch of leeches. Both of his parents were public sector union workers, his (now ex) wife was a teacher for many years, his (now ex) parents in-law are retired teachers, his brother (my father) is a retired private sector union worker, and his niece (my sister) is a private sector union worker. Yeah, people kinda lose respect for you when you start lashing out against your parents, wife, in-laws, brother, and n ...


This all reminds me of the time we had holiday dinner with my grandfather and grandmother, in their house. My grandfather was the quiet, stoic type, grew up a farmer during the Depression who got all bootstrappy and went to college and almost starved if it weren't for the charity of a business owner.

I don't remember what brought this on but my father (a Boomer) told my grandpa that "the Depression didn't affect you all that much."

I thought my grandpa was going to kill him.

There just seems to be something wrong with people. A lack of empathy or an inability to think that shiat can happen to THEM. It's always going to happen to other people. Just World fallacy and all that.
 
2012-05-09 10:19:34 AM

WhiskeySticks: And if anyone has the seen where the money comes from to finance these campaigns on Walker's side and how much it is...christ, why not put those millions to good use instead of making shiatty ads


2/3rds of it comes from out of state IIRC.

But yeah, Joe 'The Fox Mole' traded values for money for 8 years.
 
2012-05-09 10:20:47 AM

RanDomino: Janusdog
My mother refuses to see her anymore.

Good. A strategy of ostracism should be employed. No respect or pity for collaborators.


I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but personally I think that people need to know when they're being retarded. We've gone on long enough putting up with unthinking, uneducated spewage. Time to stop being polite.
 
2012-05-09 10:25:29 AM

Janusdog: BigBooper: Janusdog: My mother is a teacher, and has been for over 20 years. Her hairstylist ran for the school board parroting Walker. Up until then they were practically friends.

My mother refuses to see her anymore. The hilarious thing is that her friend didn't understand why she didn't want to have anything to do with her -- and asked. My mother said that she doesn't have the money for her services since salaries have been slashed, and oh, fark you too for your little speech vilifying teachers.


It seems to me that it's your mother who is letting politics get the better of her.

Oh, yeah, sure. If someone cut into your retirement and livelihood I'm pretty sure you would just fart unicorns.


That's personalizing it a bit isn't it. Your mother is a public employee, does she feel that everyone who want to reduce public employees benefits are personally stealing from her? I'm a health insurance agent. While I disagree with those who want universal healthcare, I don't see them as my enemies. Heck, some are my friends and family members.

Remember, If they get their way, I lose my job.
 
2012-05-09 10:27:14 AM

Nina Haagen Dazs: From The article: "I just would like to see Scott Walker defeated. I've never seen a division in our state like this. I'm not talking to some of my friends right now because of it," he said.


See, now this pisses me off. I have one friend who supports Walker, but I'll be damned if I'm going to stop talking to him because we disagree on something. He's never seen a division like this but he's obviously quite content to contribute to it.


I'm sorry but if someone I know is proudly blabbering on about how great Walker and the GOP are, I am pretty much be forced to conclude they are a clueless moron. That would definitely lower my opinion of them since almost all of the GOP policy positions are vile to everyone but multi millionaires and big corporations.
 
2012-05-09 10:31:35 AM

Janusdog: We've gone on long enough putting up with unthinking, uneducated spewage. Time to stop being polite.


Ahh, I see. Your a bigot.

bigot (ˈbɪɡət) :a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race
 
2012-05-09 10:32:09 AM

BigBooper: That's personalizing it a bit isn't it. Your mother is a public employee, does she feel that everyone who want to reduce public employees benefits are personally stealing from her? I'm a health insurance agent. While I disagree with those who want universal healthcare, I don't see them as my enemies. Heck, some are my friends and family members.

Remember, If they get their way, I lose my job.


When they openly declare as your enemies, I think it's okay to treat them as such.
 
2012-05-09 10:33:35 AM
Janusdog
I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but personally I think that people need to know when they're being retarded. We've gone on long enough putting up with unthinking, uneducated spewage. Time to stop being polite.

I'm being serious about it. We should learn from the resistance to the occupation of Ireland, for example, in which ostracism was used to great effect (iirc starting in the 1800s). Don't talk to them, don't sell them anything, don't buy from them, don't provide them any services. Either they have a different value system, or they'll come around. Either they'll come around or they'll leave (which will in turn break their remaining social networks).


BigBooper
Remember, If they get their way, I lose my job.

If you work for an insurance corporation- good. I want you to lose your job. Some jobs just shouldn't exist.
How does it feel to know that you actually produce nothing? What's that like?
 
2012-05-09 10:34:11 AM

BigBooper: Janusdog: We've gone on long enough putting up with unthinking, uneducated spewage. Time to stop being polite.

Ahh, I see. Your a bigot.

bigot (ˈbɪɡət) :a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race


OK. Call me what you want. If you are out to make sure I can't make a living, I will let you know that I don't like you very much. Seems only fair.
 
2012-05-09 10:35:04 AM
This is setting up for a union woodshedding.
 
2012-05-09 10:37:35 AM

BigBooper: Janusdog: BigBooper: Janusdog: My mother is a teacher, and has been for over 20 years. Her hairstylist ran for the school board parroting Walker. Up until then they were practically friends.

My mother refuses to see her anymore. The hilarious thing is that her friend didn't understand why she didn't want to have anything to do with her -- and asked. My mother said that she doesn't have the money for her services since salaries have been slashed, and oh, fark you too for your little speech vilifying teachers.


It seems to me that it's your mother who is letting politics get the better of her.

Oh, yeah, sure. If someone cut into your retirement and livelihood I'm pretty sure you would just fart unicorns.

That's personalizing it a bit isn't it. Your mother is a public employee, does she feel that everyone who want to reduce public employees benefits are personally stealing from her? I'm a health insurance agent. While I disagree with those who want universal healthcare, I don't see them as my enemies. Heck, some are my friends and family members.

Remember, If they get their way, I lose my job.


It's personalizing because it is personal. My mother grew up with the assurance that she would have a pension for - wait for it - 40 YEARS of service to the district. My father has uninsurable (on the open market) medical issues. She needs to retire finally because their contract is running out and the board is becoming openly aligned with Walker's BS. So she needs this money to live on.

So, my mom and dad in the poorhouse after pensions get raided and health insurance costs get dumped on them, or you getting another job? Sorry, no contest.
 
2012-05-09 10:38:23 AM

Janusdog: BigBooper: Janusdog: We've gone on long enough putting up with unthinking, uneducated spewage. Time to stop being polite.

Ahh, I see. Your a bigot.

bigot (ˈbɪɡət) :a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race

OK. Call me what you want. If you are out to make sure I can't make a living, I will let you know that I don't like you very much. Seems only fair.


B-b-b-b-but you're a bigot!

/We're going to need a bigger screen, folks!
 
2012-05-09 10:48:05 AM

Mentat: BigBooper: That's personalizing it a bit isn't it. Your mother is a public employee, does she feel that everyone who want to reduce public employees benefits are personally stealing from her? I'm a health insurance agent. While I disagree with those who want universal healthcare, I don't see them as my enemies. Heck, some are my friends and family members.

Remember, If they get their way, I lose my job.

When they openly declare as your enemies, I think it's okay to treat them as such.


Agreed. Also, I would add that not all ideas are equal. Some are profoundly incorrect. The concept of "fair and balanced" is absolute bullshiat. While we all have the equal right to say whatever comes to mind, some things are not valid and should be openly mocked or absolutely ignored. On the politcal side, open lies should be pointed out and the liars who say such things should be identified and ostracized.

If you support a business and the owner of said business states you are worthless (by proxy, even) why would a sane person continue to do business with them?
 
2012-05-09 10:52:22 AM

BigBooper: Janusdog: My mother is a teacher, and has been for over 20 years. Her hairstylist ran for the school board parroting Walker. Up until then they were practically friends.

My mother refuses to see her anymore. The hilarious thing is that her friend didn't understand why she didn't want to have anything to do with her -- and asked. My mother said that she doesn't have the money for her services since salaries have been slashed, and oh, fark you too for your little speech vilifying teachers.


It seems to me that it's your mother who is letting politics get the better of her.


I've got a firend who thinks it's hi-larious to send me every lawyer joke he comes across, and probably uses the phrase "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers" at least twice when we are watching or discussing the news together. I don't take it perosnally, I have a sense of humor about my profession and how people regard it. BUt-if he ever finds himself locked up at 3am and desperately needing someone to represent him at arraignment and arrange his bail? You can be got-damn sure I won't be hauling MY ass out of bed to do it.
 
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